ask dennis, tomorrow. thanks for watching us tonight, miss megan is next, i'm bill o'reilly, please always remember, the spin stops here, we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight,barack obama's presidency imploding. iraq is disintegrating, and now we may look to iran to help us stop it. iran. a terrorist regime responsible for the deaths of thousands of americans. what could possibly go wrong? we have drawn red lines in syria we refuse to enforce. we stood by as russia seized part of ukraine, and now we are releasing top taliban leaders as the afghanistan war is still going, not to worry, they tell us qatar is going to watch them for a year, we hope. domestically, we have a president who has lost the trust of the american people by misleading them.

he bypasses congress on matters ranging from obama care to immigration law, to the point where one of the most respected law professors in the country has called our president the very danger the constitution was designed to avoid. the american public overwhelmingly regrets obama care, our veterans are dying, waiting to see doctors, the irs intimidates conservative groups, the southern border is compared to a sieve and the president assures us not to worry, smiling, golfing, and at this very moment, partying with anna wintour. because the fund-raising never stops, not when four americans die in benghazi, and not when baghdad is at the brink. joining us now, brit hume. brit? >> that's a pretty powerful indictment, megan, and i kind of wish i could take issue with any of its individual parts and i really can't. i would add one more thing which is that, if you think of the

issue that elected barack obama. the issue that was an avalanche on the republican ticket in 2008, it was the economy. and here we are now how many years into this administration, we have not had anything like the robust recovery that we're accustomed to seeing after recessi recessions, and especially after deep recessions. the unemployment rate is still persistently high, down from what it was. mostly, that's because the workforce has been shrunk. not exactly a great achievement. if you're looking at what the american people are feeling and sensing, that would be high on the list. as i look out across the landscape of our borders and across the world, there seem to be problems virtually everywhere, and it's hard to point to a place where things are better than they were. there are a few, but not the main ones. >> on the foreign policy front, you have editorials like the ones on the new york daily news. the toll leaked from his

disengagement from the world, and retreat of u.s. influence is severe. the world is repeating what obama helped sew, they write. is it true? more and more we're hearing that his policies have not only changed america, but have changed the landscape of the world. >> well, i think, megan, that he had an idea. and it was a big idea at which was basically this, as far as american foreign policy in the world was concerned. the american footprint in the world is too big. and does much harm, and we as a nation have done our foreign adventures. if we withdrew and shrank our footprint, that things would get better. he says now that he believes deeply in american exceptionalism. and i think that he's just saying that. he didn't really. and, of course, you may recall he believed we were exceptional in the same way the greeks believe they're exceptional.

i think what he did was, he tried to diminish our footprint around the world and the view that that would eliminate this major aggravating factor in the world, which the united states presence in foreign lands. and their military. well, he's done it, we're out of iraq, we're seeing what's happening there. we're getting out of afghanistan, the enemy is known for sometime that we are. and it's not at all clear to me that we -- i mean clearly, look, you can blame george bush for getting us into iraq, but he bee kei queathed to president obama a better situation than we have now. >> joe biden was saying it was going to be one of the greatest situations in the administration. >> this american exceptionalism that people talk about, means that we practice around the

world, backed by the threat of force, and i think the history of the last century or more, has shown that when we do that we are a force for good. i think this president did not believe that. >> how about the history of this presidency. how is it looking now? more and more over the past year, we've heard barack obama being compared, as we heard, bobby jindal, john mccain say he's worse than president carter. those are republicans that are going to be critics of the president. fair comparison? how is he stacking up now? >> i hate to say it, because, you know, i'm an american. i wanted the robust recovery, i wanted a more peaceful world, we don't have, he's failing. things i suppose could turn around, it's hard for me to imagine that the same policies which he seems hesitant to change are going to bring anything but similar results going-forward. i think we're looking at a failed presidency. >> good to see you, britt. >> thanks, megan. developing tonight, a key

suspect in the benghazi terror attack has finally been captured. picked up in libya, some 642 days after four americans were murdered there. including our ambassador. ahmed khatallah is now on his way to the united states for a potential trial in washington, d.c.. just like any common criminal weapon why? wisconsin senator ron johnson is a member of the foreign relations committee, and the homeland security committee, and so, senator, that's the question, why exactly are we bringing this terrorist, who was captured abroad, here on to american soil to try him in the criminal courts? >> well, megan, again, because president obama's going to make matters worse once again, president obama made this commitment when he first took over the presidency, he was going to close down guantanamo, so now we don't have a place to detain these high value terrorists that we really should be doing is getting intelligence from them. we are under severe threat of

islamic terrorism, that's a sad and unfortunate threat. our best line of depennsylvania is a robust intelligence gathering capability. when we capture these high value targets. we need to make sure we detain them and extract every ounce of intelligence from them, you don't do that in hours, days or weeks. you do that by detaining them, at a place like gitmo, you do it over years, you relentlessly question them, you start changing your stories, that's how you gather that intelligence. this administration is simply not willing to do that, this president is bound and determined to close down guantanamo bay, i have no idea why. i've been down there as a first class facility, the people are treated humanely, beautifully, quite honestly. >> now the guy's going to be myrrh an diesed at some point. the administration points out we've done this with other terrorists, and it's worked out okay. the times square bomber, the underwear bomber.

both of these guys were in the united states. they weren't captured in libya. they're back here to face a trial the same as any criminal who's arrested on the streets of detroit would be brought into federal court. >> we don't know what intelligence we didn't get from the underwear bomber or the times square bomber. i want to bring these people to justice too. if i had to decide between prosecution and saving american people's lives, i would vote for the intelligence. that's what we need to do in the current situation. >> let me ask you this, the president said, i made it a priority to those who perpetrated the benghazi terror attack ever since it happened. it's been years that we've been looking for this guy. despite the fact that the administration couldn't seem to find him. the new york times saw him sipping a frappe. no problem for reporters to find him. and yet the administration says no resources lost, we were after

him. this has been a priority, this came up at a state department briefing today. spokespers spokesperson, listen. >> we should not be surprised that a suspected terrorist might more readily agree to show up for an interview for a reporter than he or she would for a scheduled meeting with the u.s. special forces. and respectfully, i submit to you, that that is not properly framing the question, the question being put to you it seems to me, is why u.s. special forces couldn't have an unscheduled meeting. >> there are reasons why individuals, including terrorists meet with reporters to gain more attention for their issues or their agenda. >> following your own logic, the next question to be propounded to you is, why didn't we pose as a reporter to capture him then? >> well, we appreciate your view if you're volunteering yourself for future endeavors, we'll take

that into account. >> if you're not answering the question of why a reporter was able to get within six inches of this guy, and not the u.s. forces, what's your answer? >> the u.s. special forces are an excellent force, if given the directive to do so, would have probably done it. listen, i don't know the exact details, i'm glad that we got abu khatallah finally arrested. we need to bring the other terrorists to justice. we also need to hold members of the administration, the state department accountable for their dereliction of doubtdy. >> do you believe it was a priority? that's really what rosen was going for, and what my question is to you. do you believe this was a priority? >> it certainly doesn't look like it was a top priority. let's face it, 642 days, it took us that long. i don't know the details, i can't make that accusation.

what is not a priority is holding members of his administration accountable for their dereliction of duty. that's the other thing that needs to be done in terms of holding people accountable. >> thanks for being here. >> have a great night. >> you too. new criticism tonight of how the white house is handles the crisis in iraq. all while the president attends a fund-raiser with a fashion icon. breaking news, in the irs scandal, and the missing suddenly missing two years worth of lois learner e-mails. tonight we learn it won't just lois who had a major computer glitch. it was six other key irs employees. they had some serious computer problems at the irs, didn't they? why she believes there is a cover-up afoot. >> on the advice of my council,

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our president in chief spent last night is monthsing at the world cup. most of president bush's speech in iraq during his time in the white house -- all politicians fund-raise, they do it when times are good, and bad. we have about 4,000 in baghdad. >> the day after the benghazi attacks, went to a fund-raiser in las vegas. and when russia invaded ukraine, that weekend, obama went to key largo on vacation, and biden went to the virgin islands on vacation. when the world's on fire, these people are on spring break. think of the signal this sends to the world about the

seriousness of the country. >> and incredibly, as iraq disintegrates, we now appear to have a strategy of reaching out to iran, mark. now while we are fighting against iran and syria we're going to be cooperating with them potentially in iraq. i mean, a border apart. >> exactly. well, i mean, this is the situation where -- this is what happens when america leaves the security -- iran is responsible for one third of the coalition deaths of the u.s. deaths. about 4500 people you mentioned one third were killed by iranian trained and shiite militia. just yesterday, the commander of the iranian kutz force, who was personally responsible for training the people who killed one third of our men and women in iraq, was in baghdad consulting with the iraqi regime

how to fight. the iraqis asked us how to carry out air strikes. and obama said, no. well, apparently according to news reports, the syrians are tearing out air strikes. we have our two greatest enemies in the region, iran and syria are doing -- filling the security back in that obama left withdrawing from iran. >> we have general jack king coming up next. >> i want to ask you, more and more we are hearing the president's defenders say, look, this is not what we're doing. kirstin powers has a column out tonight saying isis emerged in the ashes of the u.s.-led invasion to oust saddam hussein, he ran a secular government, now it's mostly theo kratic, we're trying to put the blame for what we're seeing on your former boss. >> when barack obama came into office he blamed george w. bush for for four years.

the one thing he took credit for was iraq. they weren't blaming bush for iraq, they were trying to take credit for the success of iraq. when they came in, iraq was pacified. al qaeda and isis had been defeated, driven out of its safe haven and they had no control over any major tut territory. the sunni masses had risen up against them. they were defeated and discredited. that's what obama inherited. this is obama's doing, this is his mess, because he withdrew. >> and yet the president's defenders say it's not his fault. while he wanted to keep some troops there in iraq, which would stabilize the region, maliki didn't want forces there, so we had no choice but to withdraw our troops. >> that's not true. they requested of the white house, he wanted to leave 23,000 troops in iraq, the white house said no, he said, we'll do 10,000, that's what they presented to maliki, and the

white house over the objections of the military brought that down to 3,000. maliki is looking at giving immunity for prosecution to americans. it's not worth the political costs. the white house overruled its commanders on the ground and unilaterally politicians in the white house reduced the troop levels from 23,000 which is what the commanders on the ground wanted to 3,000. that is why there are no troops in iraq right now. the white house didn't listen to its commanders on the ground. if we had left 23,000 troops there, isis would never be able to reconstitute itself. this mess would not be happening. >> you know what, we're going to have an interesting interview tomorrow night with the former vice president dick cheney. and we're going to go over some of these points when i interview him, marc, good to see you. >> thank you. a brutal offshoot already in control of one third of iraq. why it's time for the u.s. to

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isis, a brutal offshoot of al qaeda is 37 miles from baghdad, iraq's capitol city.

our next guest says it's time for the united states to step in, if we don't we won't like what comes next. joining me now, four-star general and former vice chief of the army, general jack keen. do you believe that isis could take baghdad? >> no, i don't. they don't have the force generation. and the combat power to do this, when you think about baghdad, 7 million people, many people understand los angeles, a sprawling city, that's kind of what it looks like in terms of geography. they need to be able to collapse the government, and they don't have the strength to do that. >> you believe we need to step in. i know you said air power. counter intelligence. you believe if we do not step in, if we don't do it, you won't

believe what isis does next. >> isis already has accomplished beyond what they thought they would. to be quite frank about it. you know the swath from aleppo and syria all the way to the iraq border, now they have northern iraq and western iraq. they'll be challenged to hold on to that. this is a huge threat to the region, to jordan, all the neighboring states, to europe and also to the united states. they will train fighters there, and spread them around the world as a result of it. it's unmistaken what will take place once they're able to consolidate their gains. we cannot let that happen, megan. >> the president made comments about the fact that we arrested one of the suspects who attacked us in benghazi and took the lives of four americans. in talking about that accomplishment, here was the president today, take a listen. >> they need to know that this country has their back and will always go after anybody who goes

after us. >> that we will go after anybody that goes after us. that remark jumped out to me as i considered the fact that we are now considering a partnership with iran. with iran, general. in fighting in iraq. your thoughts on that? >> makes no sense. ourselves and iranians are strategic adversaries, been that way for 30 plus years. we want stability and security in the region, the iranians have been killing us since 1982. marine barracks, two embassies, lebanon and kuwait. systematically training the militia, trained in iran, killed americans using advanced ieds and did it for four years, that is absolutely nonsense so we would cooperate with them on anything involving iraq or in that part of the world as far as i'm concerned. >> it's under consideration. general jack keane, thank you, sir. >> good talking to you, as always. >> the irs controversy grows

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some eye opening new developments in the irs scandal. a few days after the tax agency admits quietly on a friday afternoon, that the woman at the heart of the irs's targeting scandal had a computer glitch that deleted two years of her critical e-mails, it turns out that six other employees at the irs had big computer glitches too. trace gallagher breaks it all down for us. >> you have to remember, because lois lerner has refused to testify, her e-mails are the only record of what happened at the time. these are e-mails circulated between other irs employees the missing e-mails are mainly to and from the u.s. treasury, department of justice and the federal election commission. that's huge, because the major

push of this commission is to find out whether lois lerner and the irs were acting on orders from washington to target nonprofit groups. lerner claims her computer crashed in the summer of 2011. personal records were not recoverable. she was quoted as saying, sometimes stuff just happens. gop lawmakers want to know why the irs commissioner is just now telling them about the missing e-mails, when he knew they were lost several months ago and still testified that all e-mails would be turned over. washington attorney sent letters to the attorneys representing the irs and the individuals being sued, reminding them of their obligation to preserve evidence. now in light of the missing e-mails, she has sent follow-up letters saying, we are deeply troubled by this news and the

apparent failure on your part to protect and preserve all potentially relevant information. and to advice us of such failure when you first learned it, that letter was sent before the irs and we learned they also lost e-mails from six additional employees, including nicole, who was the chief of staff to then deputy commissioner steven miller. flats is missing a year of e-mails around the time the cincinnati field office was told to up the pressure on conservative groups. when asked about the missing e-mails, josh ernest said, you never heard of a computer crashing before? cyber security experts say e-mails simply do not vanish. listen? >> this is an episode of the sopranos, when six witnesses of the government disappear at the same time, that's more than a coincidence. when six sets of e-mails disappear at the same time, it's not a coincidence, it's a

conspiracy. >> the commissioner is back before congress on friday and next week. >> trace, thank you. earlier tonight i sat down with an attorney who represents tea party groups targeted by the irs, and she's not happy. >> good to see you. now we know it's not just lois lerner's e-mails who went missing but others as well. >> there's something crazy about this. there's all these federal laws that all these employees documents and files and correspondents and e-mails be maintained. as citizens, we all have the right to file a freedom of information request and we get to see. >> they say they were saved on a server, the server only retained e-mails for six months, it would write over the tapes. >> well, if that is true, that is an egregious breach of trust.

once the congressional investigations began, and once the lawsuits were filed by my clients and others, they had a duty to immediately notify congress and immediately notify the federal judge who's assigned to handle these cases. they have in fact, not only did they not notify anybody, but they, we got a snippy letter from lois learner's attorney saying don't destroy anything. she wrote back and said, you don't have to tell me my job. apparently we do have to tell them their job. i'm shocked that this is their process that violates federal law. and number two, that they did not immediately notify the congress, and notify the federal judge when these lawsuits were filed. >> do you think that this is evidence. what i'm hearing from other

lawyer lawyers and those on the house weighs and means committees, they don't believe that server overwrites itself every six months, they think this is all a big excuse. especially now that we've heard it's not just lois lerner. but six people's e-mails that cannot be produced. >> i don't believe it. i've been hearing from forensic experts across the country who have e-mailed me, i've been hearing from government employees who say all of that is downloaded every night, it's constantly saved on the server and for them to now say we only keep it six months, let me tell you this, i had a client a few years ago, the irs is going to revoke its tax exempt status, they deleted their e-mails at the end of the calendar year, the only way we were able to persuade them not to was to agree we would stop doing that. the irs does it. >> if you work at the irs and e-mail somebody, and six months pass, that's it. if you happen to have a hard

drive crash and it's not available on your desktop, no e-mail, that predates six months prior would be retrievable. that's insane. what -- how could the irs ever do businesslike that? >> well, they don't do businesslike that. that's the point. this is all false. i absolutely don't believe it. it is a sign of bad faith in the litigation, and i think it's con temp tuous of congress and the congressional investigations. i know -- i would note that today congressman issa has issued a subpoena for all of the backup documents relating to this i think it is a scandal in and of itself. this is not credible. >> the lois lerner e-mail where she's complaining about her crashed hard drive talks about how she's missing her lost personal files. it doesn't talk about losing e-mails. do you think that they are trying to sell us a pig in a poke here. look over here, she talks about lost personal files i'm telling

you, that means all personal e-mails. >> i think the person we all need to be looking at right now is the corrector of the fbi. surely the fbi, our government agency that's supposed to be able to protect us from criminal activities, surely with all of its sophistication should be going in immediately and pounding all of this, and getting an independent investigation but failing that, what we're going to ask the court for is permission to bring in our own independent forensic experts to have access to their hard drive. >> right now it appears the reason they're not producing the documents -- when lois looked for the documents in 2011, the it department says they couldn't retrieve them. i'm telling you, they're irretrievable. >> that is absolutely correct.

that is what needs to happen next. we need to get credible independent forensics experts who are not just the i.t. department, somewhere in the bowels of the irs, who are doing what they were told to do. i didn't detect that lois lerner was upset about the loss of her e-mails and files. >> who knows what that means. all e-mails during the relevant times. okay, we can't get communications from lois to you from lois, why don't you produce them, white house, if there are any. why don't you produce them if there are any. why don't you, barack obama's election team. quick answer on this one, do you believe they will? >> i don't believe they will without a court order, i think that's -- we are at the point in time in this whole scenario where absent a federal judge ordering them to do these things and to follow the law, i think

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activity for several months here to we can block forces that are leading to athousand arrests per day. >> reports are they're putting illegal immigrants on buss and shipping them off with nothing more than checking in 15 days later. is that true? >> yes. what happens is that they're flying them into arizona and texas then, they get there, they're busing them to the bus station in the middle of phoenix and leaving them there saying they'll appear in 15 days. which i'm sure they'll ignore. the federal government is playing the role of coyotes play. coyotes get people across the country illegally and take them into the country to blend into the population. here, you've got the federal government doing that. if they can afford to fly them to phoenix, you think they can afford to fly them back to central america which is what

they should be doing. returning them to country of origin not flying them to arizona. >> do you think they're going to stay in arizona? staying as part of the mix? >> i do think so. it causes a lot of problems for us we don't know whether the people have been immunized against diseases. we don't know what they do in central america. it could cause health problems for us. it is a burden on our education and social services the federal government shouldn't be doing this to the state of arizona i realize i -- they should not be doing this to the state of arizona they should fly people back to the country of origin. >> they put the kids in a different category. now, the border patrol agents and otms crossing into the country, they say, okay, now

that is a problem how big of a problem is it? >> well, it is a huge problem. it empowers cartels in several ways. first, you need to understand cartels are getting paid for almost every person that is being smuggled into the united states. second, is while the border patrol is engaged in trying to deal with the babies is and other people, changing diapers and feeding them, taking care of them, that opens the door for other activity to bring in drugs and other crime but on top of this, we can see a huge problem of human trafficking and results and stories we hear of some of the kids traveling from honduras and guatemala. some are sexual assaulted along the way. this is just a horrific problem. it exists because of one reason. because the administration sent a signal that the border is open. we've heard families tell the

border patrol who arrest them they got the information down in guatemala that the doors were open to the united states of america. that message must be stopped. >> it's incredible in the wake of those reports, out there now for weeks the white house is celebrating kids who benefited from that policy. granted it was in 2007 but they don't know that. >> thank you. >> just ahead, playing defense? doing damage control for hillary clinton in a brand new fox news interview. [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler... if frustration and paperwork decrease... if grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home... the gap begins to close. so let's simplify things. let's close the gap between people and care. ♪

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a little cleanup. in response to an earlier assertion that she made those taliban leaders do not, she said, pose a threat to america. listen to her tonight. >> as long as they're in qatar, they're not a threat to the united states. in qatar with an agreement that has been entered into, they are supposed to be constrained from what they can do, and they are not supposed to be permitted to travel. that is my understanding, tells me what the deal is. and in that situation, they are not a threat. they are no >> question from greta, i get confused. is it greta? bre brett, joining me now, joe trippi, a campaign veteran, who worked on howard dean's campaign. she was saying, in this situation, under these circumstances, they're not a threat. >> she's right about talking about qatar, she didn't get to what happens a year from now, when they're released from -- >> well, she shouldn't have said that the first time around. she never should have been so definitive the first time around.

>> i think that's right, i also think that's why this tour of hers is so good for her. she's able to get out there, and answer a lot of these questions, and when she does make a mistake, correct it, and you know, two years from now, she does run for president, a lot of this will -- she will have honed all her answers and she'll be a better candidate. i actually thought her interview tonight, tough questioning, respectful, but she didn't have -- there weren't a lot of forced or unforced errors. >> she seemed ernest, more relaxed than i've seen her in other interviews. or is that just me? >> no, i actually was surprised by it, i wasn't expecting her to come off as relaxed and particularly in a fox interview, you know, i'm sure she didn't think bret or greta were going to leave benghazi, syria, iraq, any of those issues off the table, they didn't. i thought she'd come in a little more defensive, she wasn't at

all. she seemed very relaxed. >> what do you think what was her best moment and her worst? >> i loved it when she talked about how she had worked with three presidents and had disagreed with all of them at times, including bill clinton her husband, i thought that warmed her up, but i thought the worst moment actually was, i think a question greta asked letter about whether she agreed that obama -- with obama, about the irs scandal being a phony scandal, she clearly did not want to say she thought it was a phony scandal. she also didn't want to contradict president obama. i thought it was her weakest moment. then again, her weakest moment was one scandal that no one can attribute her in any way to, it probably wasn't a bad place to, you know, be her worst moment. >> last question. is she running, joe? more and more people are saying, she's not going to run, she can't run. she's had so many flubs, she's out of practice, she's not looking presidential. what do you think? >> i think she's running, she

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>> busy night tomorrow night at the kelly files, former vice president dick cheney will be here, and glenn beck returns to discuss his expectations on the islamic fate. many mocked him at the time, they're not laughing now. set your dvr. i'm megyn kelly. almost two years after the benghazi terror attacks, a suspect is now in custody and headed to the u.s. to face custody. this is special report. >> good good evening. i'm bret baier. after a 21 month search, detecti detectives have captured a suspect linked to the benghazi terror attacks. we will get reaction from the woman in charge of the state department when the american facilities were attacked. former secretary of state