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vote now using #greta and don't forget to follow me on gretawire. good night from washington. see you monday night 7 p.m. eastern. tonight on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye," the lockness monster caught on tape. brand new evidence proves once and for all he saw live and well living under an icy minnesota lake. plus, when does the vice president think man first discovered fire? >> that was just 10 years ago. to state the obvious i am not being facetious. >> and should baby bears replace puppies as the most popular domesticated animal? we have that debate next. none of these stories on "red eye" tonight. >> i'm tom shillue in for greg gutfeld who returns on monday. now let's welcome our guests. in the mid90s we went on a romantic road trip killing
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spree down route 666 and murdered 48 people. the press loved us. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky. i risk my high level government job by letting him in on one of the biggest conspiracies this country has seen. i just hope he cannot be a paranoid loon. it is andy levy. he was a third string qb given a second chance. my tough love taught him what it was like to be a player. i can't wait to coach him next season. writer and comedian david aping low. and i -- angelou. and he was a ruthless, amoral inside trader. next to me is gavin mcginnis. is the star of "how to be a man" available on-line is on demand everywhere. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> should jihadys have hard bodies?
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well they are cool as ice, ice -- how should i have said that? isis? the militant group storming iraq reportedly targeting young americans with workout videos and rap videos and romanticized notions of revolution and adventure. extremists are promoting what security experts call jihad cool, and it is working. the fbi is investigating up to 15 somali american men believed to have traveled from minneapolis to the middle east to fight. experts blame social media for encouraging sympathizers to pick up arms. as the daily mail reports, in mess stheadges read like tips from musical festival goers to fellow fans and student travelers to peers following in their footsteps. the militants urge others to join them. travel light and bring a smartphone and then they are the propaganda videos. a recent one from isis is titled islamic state workout
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you down ♪ ♪ you're the best, around ♪ nothing is gonna ever keep you down ♪ ♪ you're the best around ♪ nothing's gonna ever keep you down ♪ >> see what you can do with a little help imposed? i prefer this workout video. >> the andrew wk workout plan. ♪ >> i am not necessarily proud of some of the results we have had. >> by the way, i know how to say isis. i thought i was trying to do a rhyme in the snapy dialogue. >> i saw the producers write it down. >> he said it in my ear like i
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was a dumb dumb. but i wanted the clever turn of a phrase. >> we should dwell on it. >> gavin, what do you think? these guys are in shape. you don't see many fatrrorists,? >> i think your joke accidentally proves that america is better. that music sucks. and it wasn't for the right environment. if you don't want -- if you want to get people pumped you don't play sufflok songs -- love songs or ballads. >> i am not passing judgment, but m why like an alien coming down. >> you said "karate kid music -- >> rock is better. >> you and i are used to that. those specific harmonies they were singing, maybe it gets them charged up like "the karate kid" gets us amped up. >> you learn about rock and roll and that's awesome. that's what we should send over there. they love rambo and guitar
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solos. they do it wrong with the virgins. i slept with tons of virgins. it is awkward and uncomfortable. no one is having a good time. >> tons of them? >> just one at a time. we have been hearing about these virgins and we make a lot out of that. if we had a jihady on the show he would say you make a little much of the vier jins. it is not a major motivators. >> you have to stop going to the deli. >> andy, i mean, you like these isis guys before you saw the video and now you must love them. >> aside from the small fact that these are bad people, this really is not that much different than the commercials our armed forces put out, right? >> you have to make something that can result in horrible injury or death and appeal to people's ideology and --
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patriotism. >> this is the jihady fault. >> what was their reason for saying it was the social media's fault? >> it makes it easier to spread their message. >> social media doesn't kill people, tom. jihad kills people. >> exactly. i agree 100%. >> do you work out? i think diving through the flames, that's hard to do. >> it is definitely hard. i like the video. i am going to try the program. you want to do the isis metric work wroughts. workouts. >> i get that. i know what you are doing there. >> we used to do isometrics. >> are you allowed to do that workout if you are not into ala. >> there are a lot of the post marine workouts and they do
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the -- >> the boot camps. >> it is very difficult. you still haven't done hot yoga. but if you did it, gavin, one day we are going to do it together and i will put you to shame. >> when my pea nuss -- penis turns inside out and i grow breasts i can't wait. >> joanne, i think you were saying in the green room you would never date a terrorist unless you had a lot of money. >> no, no, no. i draw the line at terrorist. it doesn't happen. i do know a lot about videos and knowing your audience. and they really don't. if they want to appeal to americans to join their cause you really need more spandex. you need to show your face. >> we are against that. they don't even want spandex at the olympics olympics in dubai. >> like a before and after picture, how else are we going to relate to your workout? >> that's what you have to
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appeal to americans is the after photo. >> you don't want to see the hard work. >> it it has to be a five-minute jihad. >> get to the point. >> and the dirt is unattractive. >> do you think this is recruiting. >> this is trying to recruit people from the midwest. is it working? it looks like the same videos. >> you have to look at the pros and cons. in the middle east when people are starving to des and they saw their brother's hand blow off they will say what they got. >> who are these guys? >> stupid nuts. >> he was in the midwest a couple months ago. he was opening birthday presents like good boys do. and then he is off fitted fighting jay -- fighting jihad. what a is the appeal? >> can we assume there is something wrong with that guy? >> there is something there.
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it is not like you are somehow brainwashing someone. >> you know what is worth mentioning is the boston bombers were radicalized in america. we have this culture where kids get sent home from school if they have an american flag t-shirt or they take it off their bike. when you want to support a radical religion, that actually gets more support and more tolerated than patriotism. >> because we have the fear of being intolerant. >> i was in junior high during the iran hostages. people wore t-shirts to school that says iran sucks. they wore them to junior high. it was a common thing. the iran sucks t-shirts. >> they are here and year and just pulled a fast one on the mediar. they duped the dutch press and the huffington post to prove a gay's only town was being constructed in a place called the netherlands.
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a gay village is a real fake name was endorsed by the mayor and a developer to give it more credibility. outrage ensued with people tweeting that the gay ghettos were not needed to protect the gay community. but it was all an elaborate hoax. is there any other kind? the group was killed -- the group was thrilled saying the reaction we got was positive monday. the dutch media were less pleased. they were extremely annoyed at the deception. never anger the dutch media. meanwhile, back in the states, a new gal lop poll shows the confidence in the media is at an all time low across all medei. we will not let you down, viewers. just watch this.
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>> that's beautiful. >> i wish i could have seen it -- >> i additioned for that part. wonder how the dog got it. >> that was mean to kirsten kirsten-dunst. >> andy, about the story you are con constantly doubting whether the stores we tell are real. >> i believe virtually nothing i read. that makes mooy more of a selective -- that makes me more of a selective human. >> i am fooled by stories. i was fooled by this the other day. >> what is the big deal about a gay village? we have one here in new york city and it is great. >> where is that gay village? >> it is called the village. >> it is probably south of 14 and west of the river and east of 6th avenue. >> we shortened the name to the village. that's it. the big problem is the mayor participated in the joke. other than that it is a dumb joke.
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i did this with the aim of drawing the attention to gay rights and not to trick the media in society. that's what happened and that's annoying. you helped perpetrate a hoax and noel you are annoyed you -- and now you are annoyed you tricked everyone. >> it sounds like they were trolling. >> or smoking weed. >> gavin is there any hope for the media to gain back the people's trust? we have media at our fingertips. people twist our own stories. gavin, i have heard you say things on the show and they are twisted. >> they are so desperate for bad guys that they just invent them out of thin air. i am at the point that every time i hear something that sounds outrageous, i bet anything you dent say anything. remember when keenan thompson said black women aren't funny. then you think i bet he didn't say that. and you look it up and he didn't say anything cls to that. >> most people won't look it up. they take it as face value. >> the fact they like comedy
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news and the daily show shows they don't even care if it is true. they get their news from jokes. >> hey, wait a minute. >> but that is the thing. joanne, you are right. it doesn't matter because no one is reading the article anyway. we did a story here and it was about gentrification. it was a fun, lighthearted story about how i was saying that gentrification was fine. out with the old and in with the new. that's what what i said. and the headline on this website was fox news host says poor people smell bad. it is unbelievable. >> i actual looy leaked that story. -- i actually leaked that story. >> what do you think? dodo you get slandered for what you say on this show all the time? >> no, i do pretty well on this show. i do think that it is easy to fool the media when you just lie. and that is something we learned from the iraq war.
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megyn kelly, everybody. i get it. you are making a political point. >> i did grand stand a little bit. >> were you trying to say that it actually helps when you make up a lie of whole cloth than exaggerate where they will print some things. >> it is like you said, they just say whatever and then they get away with it by the time you retract it. >> why? i once said on hannity that this middle class white surfer doesn't represent food stamp abusers. the headline was hannity guest blacks use food stamps as fat pills. the thing is though, when everyone says that no one trusts the media that's fine. when we did trust the media, that wasn't doing us good either. they are feeding us the same dumb story. joanne, are you sad there is not a -- there is not a real
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gay village in the netherlands? >> i found my gay village and i i am not telling you where it is. i like to be the queen of the parade. the thing with the pink monday they are trying to create more awareness for this community because of the issues that gay people have been facing. >> what is wrong with that a? if it is a means to an end why is that not good? >> it is not a problem to create awareness. the host is mocking the community. when the community feels they have been a part of the hoax and they have been mocked it adds to anger and hostility. it doesn't foster compassion. >> you are saying mocking the community, but they say we will have a gay village wha. a is mocking? >> they say because the community is hostile toward this organization we will do something that makes them more angry. who are you trying to dupe? >> doesn't greg gutfeld do that very thing?
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remember when he proposed the gay club? >> but he wasn't trying to ingratiate himself with anyone. can i say something quickly? do you notice you see gays now in the east village? it is like the israeli settlements. they are moving out and branching out. we didn't come true on the 40 acres and the mule thing, but we give them 40 acres and some ass and it still does president come out. >> you mean that's another name for mule? coming up, i get much needed rest. i deserve it. the swiss cheese pervert. that's right, you heard correct. the swiss cheese pervert.
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>> is there a woman among us? >> i opened up google to search for stories for today's show and under a playful google animation of letter playing soccer i noticed this. join us in inspiring the next generation of girl coders. i clicked the link and was taken to made with code. a project that inspires girls and computer code. we started made with code because even though increase league more aspects of our lives are inspired with technology the companies, labs, research and creative arts and boardrooms that make technology happen. those
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girls love to dance, don't they? do we need a special girls school when it comes to computers? do we need to girl things up to trick them into learning code. haven't we been trying to send a message that girls and boys are no different and that women are unrepresented in the science and math professions because of systemic gender bias and not because men and women may not have different interests. i am the father of two girls and i want them to lean in and do what they want in life. and as much as they love bracelets they also love science. and i never had to put a bow on our telescope to make them excited about looking at the moon. good night, moon. >> that makes sense. you look skeptical. >> you probably have a thought. >> have hosted many times and i have a thing i do.
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i would have done it differently. >> what a is your thing? >> it is stupid. >> it is called gavin ain't having it. >> i think all of this equality talk is sexist. why do women have to be the same as men? remember soccers said said -- larry summers said maybe it is possible that women are not predisposed to go to math and science. he lost his job. some woman in the audience said i almost broke into convulsion. the notion that they are by logically female or by logically male, well i think the opposite. why are there not more female bat men and female dj's. why do they have to be women in everything that is male. women have a human come out of their body. you know what would happen to our genetalia if we did that? it would look like an elephant
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got run over by a steamroller. >> gavin wasn't having it. you must have an opinion on this. what do you think about my monologue about this website. >> the weird thing is when i was looking for stories, i was planning to talk about it in tonight's -- >> andy gram. >> so last week yahoo! released the diversity report showing 15% of the tech people were women. they revealed a whooping 17% of the techies were of the female persuasion. they showed that 71% of jobs in tech occupations belong to men. is this a problem? people like tom would have you believe that it is just the natural order doing things like coding and there is no value in trying to attract more women to technical fields. but team like tom go to the google home page and somehow not knowing that you can enter search terms in your browser bar. they do have a gender problem and they aim to inspire things
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like possible career should be applauded 6789. good for google and good for america. a notion tom doesn't share. >> joanne do you have thoughts about this gender issue? >> well, tom, as a matter of fact i do. >> i think that the school is a terrible idea. a separate school for girl coders? listen, coding is a very lonely life. these guy coders have been hoping and praying for female coders to come along. and now we want to separate them in their own school? what used to be a notion, a fantasy for them is becoming a reality and i will not deprive them of that. >> now david, say anything and a segment will come up on the screen.
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>> i would like to say my peace on this in a segment i would call david sans uh. >> i don't get the pun. >> it was a last-minute add. >> i think it is a salient point. do we have to segregate women and trick them into getting into coding? perhaps there is as many women taking coding as they want? >> it is funny because you want to narrow the gender gap. they are doing it with sixist ways -- sexist ways and having ponies and whatever the video is. >> i know girls do love bracelets and they love ponies and things like that. i am trolling all of you guys with this whole thing. i think that site is fine and i think if you see girls playing at parties they do
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like all of these things. >> i don't think you were trolling. you change your mind. you change your mind. after hearing the andy gram you changed your mind. you are ashamed to admit it, sir. that makes you a little, little man. >> i disagree not with the results of the website. i think girls should go there and make bracelets and learn how to code. i disagree with the -- i don't disagree with the medicine. i disagree with the disease. i don't think it is a problem. i don't think we have to narrow the gender gap. >> what is the matter with men and women and boys and girls being different? we made fat barbies and they were flying off the shelves, but we decided to make skinny ones for no reason. it is the free market. does anybody want to play with a skin me he-man? no he is supposed to be rippled and fight skeletor. >> many women are in high-tech
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companies. the ceo of the company doesn't know how to code. they hire a nerd to do it. why don't these women, they can lean in and create a company and then hire a nerd. >> not all girls. >> exactly. exactly. >> you can call me old-fashioned. >> i will call you old-fashioned. say something sexist. it will spice up the segment. >> a woman's place is in architecture. leave the coding to the men. >> coming up, ladies go wild for a sexy mug shot and so do a couple of fellas, me included. he is a gorgeous criminal. first a word from our sponsor. >> tonight's c block is sponsored by throw it in towel. perfect for giving up, giving in and anyone living in buffalo. all towels common know grappled so you know you are the one who stopped trying. throw in the towel, for the quiter in all of us.
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the women if they would like to pay to see him rub cheese on his genitals. he was arrested and sentenced eight years probation. is his punishment too light? yes, it is another -- >> victory for perverts. >> funny. he didn't physically assault anyone. is this too harsh? it is probation, but it is eight years. >> tom, this guy is a monster. >> don't do. it don't do it. >> i i want to know is it a hard cheese or semihard cheese? >> i didn't even understand that joke. is that a cheese joke? >> it is a little cheesy that joke. >> despite the cheesiness of your answer, do you think the punishment fits the crime? >> did he get punished? he doesn't even -- >> he is on probation. >> oh he got off. >> i don't think that is a
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punishment. >> do you think he is doing it again? >> if you have such a specific thing like -- obviously he is very into this one thing. i feel he hillary offend. >> the issue is the crime is pagano is an italian last name and he is pleasuring himself with a swiss cheese. if he does it again, i hope to the italian gods he is using the mozzarella. >> i'm sure it was a jack cheese. >> see! wait for it and the gems come through. >> gavin, did he get off too easy? i feel like jail time for this man. >> when i was a little kid there would be a guy in a park and you go ah-ha. it wasn't a big deal. >> and you turned out perfectly normal. >> this guy, he wasn't doing
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it to kids. what a lot of people don't know is his tone wasn't, hey wanna see me rub some swiss cheese. he would be like, hey guys, i was wondering if anyone here wants -- obviously not, but maybe a little swiss cheese on me? >> silly question. >> people would say no and oh, okay, bye. >> isn't that creep yes, sir? if you roll down your win doe and start with ah, and they still come, then you have a prospect. if you start with excuse me and then somebody will lean in. if you are polite it is -- >> i don't do hypotheticals. i know from experience if you have an a-flat:00 taif and you say -- octave and you say, hey, guys. a little cheese and no, okay. >> andy, you know, what do you think happened to the guy? we are talking cause and affect here. what causes a guy to become sexually aroused by the
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cheese. >> you talked to a couple of shrinks and they were abused by cheese as a child. >> does he have an intoll -- an intolerance? >> why not go to prostitutes? >> that's what i wonder. >> it is pricey. >> go to the prostitute and pay them. it would be a brake for a prostitute to sit there and watch you pleasure yourself with cheese. and this way it is not random innocent women on the street. >> you can get a cheap one for 80 bucks. >> i don't know. i don't understand how these guys work and i don't want to pretend to understand. if you have this thing about the cheese, you want to -- the fun is convincing the woman. it takes the fun out of it. >> it seems like you do know.
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>> he comes back to his room and he says, dude, i have three chicks. >> if i move my barber shop quartet? if they happen to walk by and the charm of our voices cause them to want to watch. if we have to pay people it is not as fun. >> it is the connection. >> i think money is great. >> i think you should be in prison too. >> we have fallen for a felon. this week an excon named jeremy meeks was arrested in san francisco on five weapons charges and one gang charge. more important leahy is crushingly -- more importantly he is crushingly gorgeous. his mug shot has tons of likes. and this comment, if he broke into my house i would make him forget why he broke in in this irrelevant seconds, laugh out loud. and, lady santiago said i have
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50 shades on that man. oh god, yes. meeks who is 30 has been linked to an crease in local robberies and shootings and a spokesman for the stockton pdd calls him, quote, one of the most violent criminals in the stockton area. will the genetically gifted beacon viced it? considering his prior incourse ration and teardrop tattoo it is not looking good for mr. good looking of the joanne, you are an expert in this field. i can't tell when guys are that good looking. i looked at this guy and he didn't seem so hot. >> with our terms of beauty a saw metra cal face with high cheek bones and a great jaw line. >> the same on both sides. i have the cheeks. >> that's what attracts someone. but when i see a facial tattoo i run. i would not be one of those ones commenting, but i will read them because they are hilarious.
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>> what is it about these kind of light skinned black guys with the blue eyes. people love those guys, don't they? >> i never got along with those guys. i find they are soft because they got laid too much in high school. what is sad about this guy is we are talking about a felon, a major criminal. just because he has got these unbelievable swimming pool eyes and you want to dive into and swim around, mile high cheek bones and perfectly sculpted chin and i presume the most sculpted body you have ever seen and rippling pecks and who knows what is going on south of the belt. i don't even want to know. an adonis of a man. and he is mean and. >> let's give andy a piece of cheese. >> because of that he has a -- he is a criminal? >> sure people look and they think of waking up on his chest and the sun is pouring
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in and you want a coffee? he comes in to swing a sweater and he is like, are you cold? >> what do you think? >> daf vin forgot to mention his -- gavin forgot to mention his luscious lips. what a waste. i believe it was peter parker's uncle ben says with great looks comes great responsibility. all the ways meeks could have used his looks for the good of society, being an actor, model, quarterback, the pin pinnacle of a tv host he chose a life of crime. what a waste. the lighting. the lighting in that picture, i have never seen a mug shot with lighting that good. >> that's the thing. was this a trick photography? david, i know you are attracted to this guy, i can see it. we are convicting him before the trial. we are taking the police's word for it. >> he is guilty of stealing my heart.
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walt disney world. that last one ruffled some feathers at the show. here to defend disney world is the "red eye" staffer tim diamond who has been to disney 17 times. that's not an exaggeration. tim, the floor is yours. defend disney world. >> thanks, tom. oh man, i love disney world. i love it more than i love myself. i thought my inner child died alongside my father, but then i went to disney world. they breathed new life into that boy with some hot cpr action. disney world is a place that cares about its workers. they don't have employees. they have cast members. every person there is part of one big happy cast system. and short. they fingerprint you as you enter the gate, thought that's part of your -- but that's part of of your own safety. it is not to keep you locked in an underground prison. i don't know why you would think such a thing. some
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people might think that i only like disney world because i am clinging to my childhood gnaw nostalgia. to that i say thisy have a "star wars" riled. it is called star tours. it is a pun and a ride. how can you not love that a? i have gone to disney world 17 times. and i will go 17 more. i don't care what cryogen nickly frozen skeletons they have in the closet. it will and always will be the happiest place on earth. >> thank you, tim. >> thank you, tom. >> that was a heart felt -- >> 17 times isn't that once a year for his entire life? >> he is not that old. >> they go every year. >> 17 times. >> gavin, you and i may be east coast snobs, but some people, they like to go down there to epcot and they like to go through the german village and drink a p lie sner beer and then they like to go
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somewhere else and get some other thing. >> i am not at disney world at all. i will take my kids. i went on a disney cruise and it was frefn kissing one's -- french kissing one's mother-in-law. it was unbelievably expensive. just getting a mild beer buzz gets you into the pour house. you -- poor house. you have to wait in a mile long line to meet minnie mouse. i think niagara falls is a great place. >> it is niagara falls usa. >> i like vegas because i love blackjack, but the people are awful, the tourists. the locals are friendly, but a lot of people there and people taking pictures with ipads. i like going to l.a. because i lived there for 10 years, but i agree as a vacation destination? hollywood is lame: the thing
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with me is i don't have a passport, tom. why would i want to leave the greatest country on earth to go to a country that is less great? >> exactly. >> why would anybody do that? >> we have everything we need. we have the interstate and you can visit everything. >> joanne, i bet you love disney world. >> i have been around the world. i went on the ride it it's a small world after all by myself. i have never been more depressed in my entire life. you need to go to disney world with a kid. preferably your own and don't go on rides by yourself. that's how drinking problems start. >> a lot of adults love disney world. you know people who go down there as their yearly vacation. >> how is mickey mouse still relevant? he hasn't put out a film in 70 years. people want to see him? >> and donald is always angry. why was donald always angry?
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are no tom messages. >> keep it up! >> and i love being included on the tweets about sherrod. >> yep. >> what is safe to hit in a mosh pit? that's where people jump around and in a circle at a concert. >> you are refer together circle slam. >> exactly. thankfully people have come up with the 10 rules of more -- mosh pit etiquette. it includes rules like pick up the arm and knowing where it begins and ends and mott throwing things and making it personal and respecting the venue staff. that's important. tbaf vin, i -- gavin, you are an expert. i have never really been in a mosh pit. do we agree with the etiquette? do we neat the etiquette? >> i have so much to say that i don't know where to begin.
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it start netted early 80s when it was based on british pogoing and just jumping around. and then jocks started to get involved. i think it was the song ""magic" johnson" by the chili peppers. they got a little more violent and then thrash came with d ri and suicidal tendencies and bad brains and people started circle slamming. it was running in circles. now you have these wind mills. you can't hold items above your head. you will get destroyed. >> i cants believe it has gone on so long. i remember in the 80s it started. >> the 70s. >> it didn't make it out to the suburbs. we were behind. i thought this can't last long. andy, you were probably a fan of the mosh pit. >> it can be like a really caw that caw -- cathartiy experience. >> if are you a 14-year-old boy. >> but there was one d-bag who likes to throw elbows and it
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is usually a jock kind of guy, whatever. the only rule you needed was everybody gets together and handles it. everybody notices who the d-bag is and kind of gets him out of the way by handling it themselves. i think it teaches a great lesson of not needing a police state. >> they didn't mention you should take your glasses off in the mosh pit. do you want to add that one? >> that's a good idea, but then you can't see the show as well. >> you don't do a mosh pit. joanne, i don't think it is right. >> what are you trying to say jie. i do the mash pit. >> remember the monster mash? >> special thanks to joanne, andy levy and gavin mcginnis. that does it for me, tom shillue.
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hello, everyone. i'm kim along with eric. and jessie waters. this is the five. who is the real hillary clinton? the former secretary of state has long tattered her history as a champion of women's rights. >> over the past 25 years, i have worked persistently for issues relating to women, children and families. it is a violation of human rights when individual women are raped in their own communities. it is a violation of human rights when a
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