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iirs commissioner sent a letter today saying irs should be able to turn over the lois lerner e mails by the end of the week and says he was hoping to provide a full response today but critical information is being collected and verified. many still pushing for a special prosecutor to investigate and some say there should be a financial incentive. >> we know the e mails can be found we just need people to help find them they'll forget the other, not just carrot, but the stick we reduce everybody's salary in the irs by 20% until they are produced >> they expect to have a report

on the missing e mail hz in weeks and late today, david camp from ways and means and subcommittee chair charles bustani asked how they learned of the hard drive crash. who told them, and more. the committees requesting all communications between five other irs employees with hard-drive crashes and white house, justice, epa, federal election commission and osha. yet, the president has gone back to calling this a phony scandal. >> sometimes news are just washington fights. they're fabricated issues. they're phony scandals that are generated. >> if the commissioner is connect and they will be turning over lois lerner e mails issue is the 4th of july holiday. that would be one of the best times to dump bad news, when

americans are enjoying fire works and family and not focused on the irs mess. >> thank you, mike. >> thank you. >> joining us now, mark chasen, former chief speech writer for president bush. sounds like two scandals for the price of one? >> yes. that is what's happening. first a scandal of the improper targeting of conservative groups now we have a new scandal of the cover up of the first scandal, congress is now expanding the investigation of. look. it's been like pulling teeth to get information on this. in february, irs claims it knew the e mails had been lost two. years had been lost. in may they were still telling congress they're going to produce them in, june, they fessed up e mails had been lost. they did it on page 15 of a letter dumped to congress on a friday afternoon.

like they're hoping nobody would notice two years of the e mails had disappeared so they're not being up front. that is why congress is going to investigate to find out what they knew, when they knew it. >> okay. back in may, 2013 we may remember the president came out and said he was angry, saying it was inexcusable. and he said he would work hand in hand with congress to get to the bottom of that. that is not happening. you mow he told our own bill o'reilly that there wasn't a smidgen of corruption this year. so let's take a look at the polling. how does the american public feel about it? were these accidentally destroyed? deliberately destroyed? it's not close. 76% say deliberately. only 12% think accidental. 12% say unsure. mark, do you think there will be enough public pressure at this point the white house is going to have to acknowledge this is

legit, and do something about it? >> i think there is. you have to keep this in context of everything else going on. this is in the wake of the president you can keep your health care plan everybody believes he lied to the country. more than half think the president lies on matters of importance. so it's no surprise now, when you have this kind of cover up and this kind of drips and drabs of information coming out, that it look like they're covering up it's the president working with congress, i'd hate to see what obstruction looks like. >> all right. so now, the head of the irs has been behaving badly on capitol hill a couple times in the last year or so. he said we're doing everything we can we're going to get things as soon as we can and that is a hold holiday do you think that means we might get something they want to release on a friday?

holiday 4th of july? what do you think we're going to get? >> we're have been put on notice there would be news that day. the democrats are upset with him. and one of the reasons why democrats are upset is him is because he lied to them, too. in the monday after those factor the lois lerner e mails being destroyed came out he met with the democratic chairman of the finance committee and failed to mention six other employees also had hard drives mysteriously crashed the irs is telling them he didn't mention to the democrats. owe democrats are getting lied to as well this, is something we've got to get to the bottom of. there is a scandal here the american people have a right to know whether their government was targeting the president's political opponents and whether the irs is trying to cover it up. >> a number of lawsuits on that

note continue as well, mark, good to see you, thank you. >> irs is not the only issue the administration is dealing w tonight the pentagon confirms the u.s. is flying armed drones over iraq. this as an al qaeda off shoot tries to establish the world's first radical islamic nation putting the president's foreign policy at a new low the commander in chief suggesting it doesn't matter whether the american people support him or not. >> let me ask you a question on foreign policy coming from something you wrote in 2006. you're talking about president bush's foreign policy strategy. you said without a well arct articulated strategy, america lacks the power they need today. are you failing by your own standard? >> george, i know we go back to polls but let me just say throughout the first half of my

presidency, polls showed strong support for my foreign policy. >> but it has to support it. >> not every minute, not every week. there are going to be times when the world is messy. >> one of the times is now. let's talk about it with jack keane, former army vice chief of staff. general good, to see you. >> good to see you, shannon >> let's talk about one of the polls we want our president to govern by principle, integrity. what he believes is best. but you do have to think about when there is so much going on in the world. the stomach the american people have for supporting what you need them to support. most-recent fox poll, how he's doing, approves 32% disapproves. 60%. that is a tough number for the president, general. >> yes. certainly is. it's hard to find a place in the world, shannon.

you know where something improved we've got assertive, aggressive china and reemergence of china. we have libya, syria, iraq. all in trouble. and we actually have an indisputable rise of radical islam in the middle east z certainly africa. no strategy that, to deal with it. those are the harsh realities you can understand the kinds of number that's you just showed. >> yes. this administration is repeatedly said al qaeda is on a run the core has been decimated. we know, the president says it's like you know you're trying to play whack a ball. there are other groups that are going to rise up. when you get rid of leadership of one group there are smaller groups out there. what is this strategy at this point? and how much of, you know those things, those roots lead to things like we're seeing in iraq now with isis?

. >> i don't agree with the whacka mole strategy. it's rising in sink and we don't have a strategy to work that to share intelligence, share technology. share training. and let these countries work these problems with our assistance. we've gained a lot of information on how to deal with radical islam, certainly as a result of iraq and afghanistan we can have true partners out there. we don't have a true strategy like that. we don't define this ideology and it's significant ambitions to take over muslim land whether shia or sunni. you can see that on the rise right now with isis. it's become a terrorist army. still, a terrorist organization

to be sure. but threatening to stability of the middle east and certainly, threatening to security of europe and the united states. >> general, you have a lot of experience and insight on what is playing out now in the middle east. my understanding is that you have been contacted by someone from the white house you can't tell us much, but can you characterize what this conversation was? are they seeking help? advice? seeking input how to move forward about where we find our selves? >> yes. i think like a lot of white houses when you have something so troubling as this, and complicated, as it is, you want to reach out to different viewpoints. this white house is doing that. and i commend them for that. but i also believe that we should be taking some decisive action now. because isis is on the move. we do have capacity to weaken this organization in syria and in iraq. using air power, we've been looking at targets now for about

a week with 30-40 sorties being flown every day i'm convinced that the targets are available. i do think we should start to weaken this organization before it collapses, at least threatens collapsing iraq and begins to undermine jordan, which is clearly, it's next objective. >> general keane thank you for your service and advice to our country. good to see you tonight. >> always good talking to you, shannon >> president obama hitting the campaign trail, talking about so called phony scandals where he says trouble lies we're going to have a fair, balanced, probably feisty debate, still ahead plus, developments in the investigation into the deadly benghazi attacks killing four americans almost 18 months ago the hunt for the 19 suspects in the terrorist attack. >> we will not waiver in our commit toment see justice done for this terrible act.

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hold. as for khatala one source in particular says he was low hanging fruit, we could have picked him up months or months ago. in response to that the state department today said that is just not the case. >> we have been committed to bringing to justice those responsible for the attacks in benghazi. there has been a great amount of media attention paid to him and i deny any assertion that he is anything other than significant here. >> fox learned the united states has a target list and that contained ten suspects identified within days of the attack and grew to nearly 20 as surveillance was conducted in and around benghazi. the four groups include ansar

al-sharia. one was released for amnesty. fox news learned from our sources that his involvement in the attacks has shown he has been very involved and they don't understand why that has been ignored. a lot of information coming out and hunting suspects has been put on hold. we are told intelligence has been given to our leadership for well over a year. >> a lot of questions. joining us now to talk about it fox news political analyst and columnist for u.s.a today. the more we learn it seems there is a bit of a conflict of what we are hearing. according to adam's reporting what is being carried out an opportunity to get some of these additional suspects and special operations waived off. >> i think president obama has been extremely aggressive about going after terrorists. he has expanded the drone war

that president bush had. he takes this seriously when he wants to. he pays a lot of attention to it and captured osama bin laden. i think the fact that he has not in this case is telling. when he wants to make something a priority he does. and, according to this reporting he hasn't made it a priority at all. and i think that part of that could be because it is not a particularly helpful issue to him. it doesn't make his administration look very good to have benghazi in the news. it doesn't make his heir apparent look very good, hillary clinton. >> now that they have one suspect in custody we know this is a guy giving media interviews. others haven't been questioned. people like the landlord apparently there of the annex of the buildings apparently he knows a lot more about what went

on. i know they are dealing with foreign governments and that certainly complicates things but at least gives appearance to the american people that they are trying to do something. what is it going to take? benghazi is not something the administration wants to talk about. if they are making progress that is a plus for everybody. >> i'm not saying that to excuse it. i am trying to make sense of the lack of engagement in the area where i think the president has been extremely engaged and i would argue overengaged to a certain extent. i think it is hard to find people in other countries. i don't think we should minimize that. they are not just down the street. they are in another country. it does involve going into another country to get them. i think it is difficult. that said we know it can be done. so if it can be done and we can get these people and it should be a very, very high priority for a myriad of reasons there is not a good excuse for why the

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write the parts of the health care law that violates their religious beliefs? chief council to the judicial crisis network join us now. >> this case is based on the religious freedom restoration act which the company says gives them the right to push back when the government says you have to do something. the owners say you are going to force us to violate our beliefs. i know you had a hand in crafting this law. why do you think they should lose? >> i think the religious freedom restoration act was supposed to help people, for example, a muslim firefighter who wanted to grow a beard and if he did grow a beard would have no negative impact on any third party. it was designed to deal with some of the issues that come before one very special corporation, churches to

guarantee they have some relief. never ever did any of the left, right or center people supporting the religious freedom restoration act believe that it covered a for profit company like hobby lobby with its 20,000 employees all over the country particularly to allow that company to make decisions that would violate the conscience of their individual employees. i don't think that for profit companies can exercise religion. i think it is an absurd idea. even if they could exercise religion there is no substantial burden on their exercise of this so-called religion simply by presenting an insurance plan that let some of them accept contraception. >> when this law was put together other laws that congress put together specifically matched them for individuals and said this isn't for corporations but just

individuals. they didn't do that. is that a winning argument for hobby lobby? >> your religious freedom shouldn't show on tax status. this should apply for businesses like whole foods who decide to stock meat they feel is inhumanely treated. they are asking they shouldn't have to choose between running their family business and giving up their deeply held beliefs. >> there were a couple of justices during the argument said they can just give up their insurance. the fine if they do that is about $26 million a year if they don't ensure employees. the owners say they want their employees to have health care. if they continue to provide health care but not the con traceptives the fine is $475

million. is that really a choice? >> well, it absolutely is a choice because it is about $2,000 per employee. and what you could do is say we with our you own health insurance through hobby lobby but we will give your salary a boost so we have a competitive equality with other companies like us and you go out with this extra money and buy any kind of insurance you want. that would be a perfectly fine way. i would say this is not like whole foods deciding to sell organic coffee. >> what about the kosher butcher? >> there is no negative effect of not selling coffee. >> really quick, just a few seconds to you to wrap us up. >> the employees of hobby lobby have every right to use birth control they choose. they cover 16 of the 20. they say we don't want to be

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president obama doing a campaign style tour of the$7,ak ahead of the mid term elections blaming republicans to washington's failure to get anything done. >> basic common sense ideas can't get through this congress. so far this year republicans in congress have blocked or voted down every single serious idea to strengthen the middle class. i'm not saying these are all bad people, they are not but they can't be too friendly towards me because they would be run out of town by the tea party. i'm not sure which of the things

i have done they find most offensive but they decide they are going to sue me for doing my job. they don't do anything except block me. and call me names. >> and send bills to the senate that harry reid won't put to the vote. republicans aren't the only ones taking heat from the president. yesterday he hit the media for making him look bad. >> sometimes the news coming off are just washington fights. they are fabricated issues that are phony scandals that are generated. it is all geared towards the next election or a base. just because it is not reported in the news i don't want you to think that i'm not fighting for you. >> meanwhile, a tough new milestone for the president. his disapproval rating has been higher than his approval rating for more than a year. so is this latest blame game likely to help? host of dana on the radio

america. welcome to you. >> thanks for having me. happy friday. >> happy friday to you, as well. not a happy friday for the president. these numbers are not good. he is really pushing back. he also said the last couple of days that he sort of like i don't care what people think anymore i'm going to start saying what i want. >> beyond pushing back i think the president is fighting forward for the american people. i think it was a big mistake made here with the health care rollout and mistakes on how we possibly handled benghazi. i think what the american people are looking for is solution from washington and not this salem witch trials and not more no. they want real solutions and create real jobs and fix the tax code. there are so many things we need to do together. >> republicans on the house side

will say they have been trying and sent dozens of bills to harry reid and he doesn't want to vote on them. >> if he doesn't want to bring it to the floor he is not going to bring it to the floor. i have to commend richard for suggesting finally, i'm so glad someone has acknowledged that benghazi was messed up. i'm pleased to hear you say that. you are right. harry reid, how many bills had they blocked in the senate and that is not brought up. presid blame everything on republicans in congress. republicans only control two-thirds of two branches of government. he doesn't have a lotty"q ofl'g he is the president. he needs to reach across and wheel and deal. >> let's talk about the phony scandal. we have fast and furious, the irs, trouble in the v.a. both sides agree it is a complete mess.

looking back the phone tracking thing, d.o.j. going after james rosen. there are so many things here that sometimes you lose track and maybe that is why the president is so fed up. richard, our polling shows people out there across the board not partisan polling think this administration lies to them, the president lies to them. how does he overcome that deficit? can he and it sounds like he doesn't care. sounds like he is getting a little cranky. >> i am based in washington. we know the approval rating for washington generally are horrible. they are all in the toilet including the president. i think the reason for that has less to do with him and john boehner but more that the american people want to see our government work together. harry reid needs to work together with john boehner. they have to work together because a lot of bipartisan senate bills made it to the house not brought up,

immigration reform, tax reform, student loan debt reform brought to the house and not brought up. now they want to go to a phony lawsuit and spend more american taxpayer dollars on a case that will go absolutely positively nowhere. >> now the lawsuit is phony, also. we have a thing called the u.s. constitution with plenty of checks and balances. there are times when you read the federalist papers and read about the initial under pinnings and ideas in the country they were okay with friction and ideas of branches fighting with each other and will happen when there is a republican president. and the founders were okay with that. they wanted the government restrained and not running the entire country from washington. >> you absolutely nailed it. they didn't want it to be easy. they wanted it to be difficult. the house of representatives is more of a direct voice of the

people whereas the senate is supposed to be a lot harder to get something passed through the senate. more of the point that richard said it was a phony lawsuit. that supreme court decision 9-0 under the unconstitutional appointments for national labors board. >> we are not talking about that lawsuit. we are talking about the lawsuit that john boehner filed against the lawsuit. wait just -- >> 9-0. >> wait just one second. wait for one second. ronald reagan had over 300 executive orders. george bush over 200. >> can we stop going back to reagan and bush? why weren't you outraged then? this is pumped up political rhetoric. >> stop richard. >> since you were both like 3

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developing tonight new reports that nearly 13,000 illegal unaccompanied minors just from guatamala have been detained. only about 100 of them have been deported. we are learning a mexican military helicopter crossed the border firing on our border patrol agents. we have seen these images from the border. they are heartbreaking. i have seen it come from a member of congress, pictures that show kids basically in chain linked fences. this is a horrible situation.

everyone's heart goes out to these kids. there are questions about what the administration did potentially to create the situation and what they are doing to clean it up. >> what we are seeing is clearly appalling. i don't think anyone would disagree with that. i think this entire episode serves to illustrate what strikes me as a huge disconnect between the way washington, d.c. thinks about the issue of immigration versus the rest of the country. here in this city and you are down here all the time you know how things operate. people are looking and gaming out the issue of immigration. there are elections to be one and constituencies to please. the american people are looking at the images from the southern border and are drawing the clear conclusion -- i don't think it is a conclusion that can be debated -- that our southern border is not secure. even though most people

according to polls are open to some sort of comprehensive immigration border but wonder does the federal government have the capacity to fix this problem comprehensively or otherwise? >> it is interesting because you see a couple of other things. dhs secretary jay johnson when he had a press conference talking about these kids and what was happening down there said he knew when he was being confirmed and sworn in months ago that this was coming. he said the administration had a sense that these numbers were coming up very high, that these kids were coming and more would be coming. he said he has been aware of this for months. now we see the president standing up saying if your children come here they will not get to stay but when we look at the numbers of what really happens found 90% of the people who get here are processed and given a court date 90% of them do not show up. they stay in the country and one

agent saying if they say it is an amnesty they are lying. the reality is how this plays out nobody is going home, not nobody but not a lot of people. >> i think secretary johnson's predecessor janet napolitano said the border is as secure as it has ever been. and she was hoping and the administration was hoping there was some baseline for moving forward on a comprehensive plan to figure out what to deal with all the people or how to deal with the people already here. once the rumor of the magnet of that rumored amnesty, however you want to term it, once that started percolating throughout central america we had tens of thousands of unaccompanied children showing up across the southern border. it is manifestly clear that the border is not secure. that is a real problem for most americans. >> and those kids are put in

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it's been six years and for the first time ever, the man who is personally believed to have set off several bombs in this country, bill ayers, answers for his act in an exclusive interview with megyn kelly. here's a sneak peek. >> how many bombings are you responsible for? >> i think slightly over 20 in a period when there were 20,000 bombings in the united states against the war. >> how about you personally? >> my personally, i've never talked about it. never will. >> you stole money? >> some. >> you ripped off dead babies' identities? >> right. >> and yet the violence continued just because you went underground didn't mean the violence stopped. >> what violence? >> june 9th, 1970, you bombed the new york city police headquarters -- >> you're equating -- >> march 1st, 1971, you bombed the u.s. capitol, you bombed the pentagon, you bombed the state department. that's what i mean by violence.

>> again, catch megyn's exclusive interview with bill ayers monday night, 9:00 eastern right here on "the kelly file." thanks for watching. this is "the kelly file." she's back on monday. tonight, al qaeda is back and taking off iraq. who are these militants? >> they live tweeted the headings. they took credit for crucifixions. >> what do they want? >> this is what osama bin laden was talking about more than a decade ago. >> this is exactly that moment before our eyes. >> should americans worry? >> there is a real danger of something using a nuclear weapon on the united states. >> fox news reporting, iraq and the rise of a terrorist state. from washington, here's chris wallace. >> good evening. with an offshoot of al qaeda threatening to take over iraq,