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ruled certain for profit businesses can opt-out. here's reaction from both sides. >> today's decision is a landmark decision for religious freedom. the supreme court recognized that american families do not lose their fundamentaling rights when they open a family business. women's voices are heard standing up for religious freedom. this case is about the freedoms of all americans, women and men and something all americans should celebrate today. >> i'm disturbed that five male supreme court justices would essentially have stated in a ruling that discrimination against women specifically is not really discrimination in this country. >> no comment on the ruling today directly from president obama. but his spokesperson offered this. >> there are now a group of women of an indeterminate size who no longer have access to free contraceptive coverage simply because of some religious

views held not by them necessarily but by their bosses. we disagree and the constitutional lawyer in the oval office disagrees. >> the white house said it's considering a range of options available to the president that he could take after this decision. we have kim bberly guilfoyle he. >> this is a narrowly tailored decision. it applies to the case at hand. this will generate other cases that are similarly situated because they will try to get different groups depending on their viewpoint, get the court to expand the ruling further than they did here in this particular case. so, i like the way that the court carefully tailored it. they did this so they can stand on strong legal ground and say that this only concerns the contraceptive mandate. not something that will say all insurance coverage mandates like

vaccinations, blood transfusions, those will necessarily fail if they conflict with an employer's view. so here it's just dealing with this and whether or not those can be covered. >> this is definitely seen, eric as a win by people who were -- there were chants outside of hobby lobby if they win. if you go back to 1993 with the religious freedom restoration act that was a bipartisan bill that was passed, that was the question here and then apparently they changed their mind a lot of the democrats and were decrying it as a vicious attack against women by the court. >> interesting that now women will have access to contraceptives. talk about not being -- one of the least earnest things josh earnest said. people belief first amendment

rights of the corporation and individual are protect and a victory for common sense. basically the obamacare theory is abortion pills are preventative medicine, when i say abortion pills -- this is what hobby lobby said. but would abort a fetus after it's been brought into life they said they had a problem with those. they said those abortive fashions, obama calls them preventative. hobby lobby pushed back on that. the fight was employers still should provide that. a lot of people who followed the constitution believed that was a run. >> the government trying to force people of faith to abandon their principles was delivered a brushback pitch by the justices today. >> nice sports analogy. >> then, i don't know who has taken into account the 13,000

people that work for them. >> i think hobby lobby is. >> if two people start a business who are christian scientist and grow it into a 10,000 or 15,000 person company does that mean christian is in at any time said you can't take your kid to the hospital. >> kimberly just said no that's not the case. >> what i'm saying is others might try to bring another case. will you expand to it this. the court said this, it applies close toly held corporations like hobby lobby. it's narrowly specified to that type of corporation which is very different than a different hype. publicly held, et cetera. but let me tell you something else. they also said very important there are viable alternatives and that's what hobby lobby maintained. they can go out and get something else. this is what we're providing. we're not putting a blanket restriction or x on contraceptives or anything like

that. they weren't overbroad in what they chose to exclude. which is why this case was the best one to bring forward. >> for profit corporations can bring their religious views into the business and affect everyone. >> closely held. >> closely held. >> let's get greg in here. one of the things you dislike the most is fake outrage and there was plenty of it today with people suggesting that the republic was going to end. >> no. there were people suggesting burning down hobby lobby buildings. the meltdown made chernobyl look like a tea pot. they were comparing a narrow ruling to sharia law. feminists used to reject the notion of hysteria.

they are camouflaging coercion as choice. it's not about religion at all. butts a private enterprise being told what to do by the government. but the media likes to portray this right-wing christians versus progressive women who are losing their right. you can still get your pills. government will pay for your pills. you don't even have to care about hobby lobby or shop there. this outrage is a symptom of a dependent society where no demand can be denied. we're creating a nation of entitlement bots. you can't get your way every time. it's called arts and crafts. it's hobby lobby about arts and crafts not about abortion pills. >> it's about religion -- it isn't about government it's about religion -- >> whether you have the freedom of it. >> i have a right to have my viagra pills covered. they were not covered under this bill. >> why not? it's a health concern for you

>> i think at 500 bucks for 15 of them that's expensive. >> that's cost prohibitive. it's not like birth control pills. you're paying five to six times more for something. but the problem is your democratic party doesn't care about you because you don't form the base. you're not a feminist. >> let me mention something else. greg said you can't always get what you want. and president obama, one of the reasons he's in this position is because instead of the congress writing this into law they had the house and human services department write i want as part of a rule. so executive action is not as strong as congressional action and maybe the president thought he had to do this on his own because he thinks congress doesn't do enough. that's one of the reasons they are in this position. so the answer by the government is to say well since we got this pushed back and the president again will not ask congress to fix it he'll try to do it on his own through executive action. >> isn't it amazing the white house this afternoon the president may address this.

executive action, correct me if i'm wrong is like let's declare next tuesday national doughnut day or some import person died and now fly the flags at half-staff. now we'll revamp how corporations are treated. i think it's ridiculous that president obama -- you know we've been talk about it later he's going to do that with immigration. >> what president doesn't use executive action. >> a lot of presidents do, but i do think there is a responsibility on behalf of the executive whoever it is in office to craft executive actions that can hold up in court and when they do not to accept that, okay, we disagree with the ruling but we accept it because the supreme court has spoken. kimberly i want to get your take on the other thing. the last day of a supreme court session is always a fire drill for the white house because there's lots of decisions. before we go i want to touch

base on this other one, supreme court ruling 5-4 about public sector unions. in illinois -- this is about home health care workers and whether or not they were going to be come foeld give a fee to the unions, the health care workers didn't want, to the unions said we don't have to represent you when we do contract. the supreme court said we're going to agree with the health care workers. >> you got it right exactly. we'll send you to the supreme court. i think this is something that obviously the unions aren't going to be too happy about, in my opinion, you know. this has been, i think, a number of very consistent rulings coming out of the court in terms of what they have been doing. if you see this as a steady stream here of consistency, because the one off was obamacare. >> the big one. >> that surprised everybody. shocking. nobody really saw that coming. but with respect to what they did today, i think it was in good keeping with sticking with

the constitution, with really observing the laws and following them. >> so the home health care workers take advantage of what unions negotiate in terms of fees but yet they don't have to join the union or pay a fee. if you're a home hearth worker screw you get whatever you can get. >> there's no reason to be in the union. why ride on the backs of the union. >> they don't want to be in the union. >> they don't want to ride on the backs of anybody. >> they get the same benefits that the union negotiated. >> also because the unions typically about 98% of the union fees go to democrats. >> that's why the dems are upset np is how you mug people, you get the loot and give it to democrats. nobody wants to give you money. just take it from them. >> let the rest of them go to work for themselves.

>> that's what everybody want. >> don't ask for the same benefits the unions get. >> why aren't they entitled. >> bob, you want to let the unions play their union game. knock yourself out. they have no reason to be tax exempt under 01 c 4 but they get the exemption. >> they are political groups. 96%, he 98% whatever is going to the democratic party. that's more of a super p.a.c. >> then don't join the union. don't ride on their backs. >> why are they not equally entitled to get good benefits? my point is unless you subject yourself to the union shakedown you're not entitled to good benefits and good wage? >> you're on your own. >> no. that's a bully tactic. >> if you're not participating in the economy like paying your tax, then you shouldn't get

government services. >> no. i just say if you're not willing to join collectively to negotiate your benefits -- >> not willing to pay. >> then go do it yourself. do it in your living room. >> the union is amenable to people not being in their union. they are so nice about that. >> if you're not in the union you have to pay the fee. the supreme court always interesting. >> not really. >> i think it's extremely interesting. >> okay. >> some breaking news today overseas. the israeli military found the bodies of three missing teens more than two weeks after they were abducted in the west bank. israel blamed hamas. "special report" will have more information that story at 6:00 p.m. up next president obama broke his silence on immigration reform this afternoon. he said he will once again go around congress when "the five" returns. ♪ [ female announcer ] we love our smartphones. and now telcos using hp big data solutions

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president obama took to the rose garden this afternoon to inform the public he's ready to act alone on immigration reform. >> today i'm beginning a new effort to fix as much of our immigration system as i can on my own. without congress. as a first step i'm directing the secretary of homeland security and the attorney general to move available and appropriate resources from our interior to the border. i directed secretary johnson and attorney general holder to identify additional actions my administration can take on our own within my existing legal authorities to do what congress refuses to do and fix as much of our immigration system as we can. if congress will not do their job at least we can do ours.

>> all right. this latest move comes less than a week after the supreme court slapped down the president for overstepping his executive authority. speaker john boehner released a statement in response to obama's announcement saying he won't help the president move forward with immigration reform because quote the american people and their elected officials don't trust him to enforce the law as written. so once again we have the president calling on my favorite person on the la net, eric holder to help him. tell me what i can do. he said specifically to act within the law, within his authority. now keep in mind this is in the wake of a brushback from the supreme court saying listen you're confusing the whole separation of powers and what congress does and what the president should do and you can't overreach or overstep repeatedly like this. >> so when i watched the president today i saw something different. it was not stilted. i thought he was passionate and from the heart. a lot of the things he said i

said wait it won't bear out. for a presidential statement the only thing i wouldn't have done is have joe biden there. i liked that the president was not on the teleprompter and telling it like it is as he sees it. there's a couple of thing he can do. in 2007 president bush wanted to send some of the national guard down the border to try to enforce some things. i think president obama did not go that far today, but department of homeland security might end up asking for that because what the president failed to talk about today is the specific tragedy and the urgency that's on the border right now that's as a direct result of inaction and also some action on his behalf of suggesting to people if they came over they would be okay. what i don't like about this i believe the president if he goes forward with executive action it will not be strong enough. it will not be good enough. we will continue in this realm of uncertainty which is not fair

to citizens or to our businesses and the economy and it's not fair to the immigrants either because they will continue to live with the uncertainty that he cares about. >> anyone else -- bob is taking a nap. bolling? >> i'm not taking a nap. first of all, brushback that you're talking about is one of the narrowest of executive orders. three day set of recess. you can't compare. >> talking about hobby lobby today and the union one. >> i thought you were talking about the one where the court ruled 9-0 he couldn't -- but, you know, here's a situation where you got thousands and how to sands of children who are fleeing from the highest murder capital rates in the world or at least in the western hemisphere. they are here. they are here because, i think their parents are trying to make them safe. we have a responsibility as citizens and as human beings to take care of them. and the idea of taking these children and putting them back

in el salvador where they can get shot and bludgeoned and raped is obscene. >> you make it sound so barbaric. that's not the situation. >> i heard republicans say we ought to send them back. >> there's one over here. let's talk to the guy in the center. >> it's the rule of law. supreme court says hey obama cut the crap with the executive pen and a week later he comes back i'll subvert congress, $2 billion of resources and then bob is hitting on something very important right here. that here's what the left wants to do, president obama wants to do and the left wants to do. they want to declare these illegal immigrants refugees. give them refugee status. which means they want to say they are fleeing from their home country for some religious or government persecution. >> that's how most el salvad salvadorans good into this

country under president reagan. >> then they say here's my family, my parents. it's not just for kids. >> never ending. that's the problem. it's cyclical approximately i want to move to the caliphate. >> i can help transition. first of all, this isn't about immigration it's about borders. president obama wants to take boarders than enforce borders. that's the problem. what's happening is as we were about to talk about the caliphate, that is intimately connected to our border. terror seeks the path of least resistance. the hole in the fence. the hole in the fence at 9/11 was the passports. in this case was the hole in the fence which we need to close. if president obama wants open borders and retreat from the world stage and end spy programs might as well hand the suicide vest out at our border because you're making it easy for people who flew into your buildings to just walk in and blow us up.

>> this is the other imminent threat to the united states. >> children coming over here is opening the door for a bunch of people to bomb like 9/11. >> exactly. >> to accuse people who are worried about national security to hate kids. i don't hate kids. well, yes i do hate kid but i hate american kids but the fact is just because we want to have a safe border doesn't mean we want all these children to suffer. we want a process. we want a process where we feel safe and orderly immigration. we're in for orderly immigration. not illegal immigration. there's a distinction. >> if we look at the record and find out what republicans said when ronald reagan let el salvadorans come in here en masse. >> you want to look at the new context and have a living constitution and change that.

there are a lot of merits for that in 1988. i think the problem is president obama today is talking about executive action that would deal not with the urgency situation and the triage, john boehner said we don't trust you because they don't have reason to trust him. >> why don't they pass a bill. >> why doesn't harry reid call it up. >> there's some general agreement. i'm not fighting this. why don't we bring it up. >> make them vote. we take it where the conversation ladies us. tomorrow wild discuss more about iraq and isis which has seized much of northern syria, declaring a caliphate. fascinating story how quickly this has evolved in a matter of weeks. coming. . conservative icon matt drudge

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♪ the drudge report is a massively popular news aggregating website. it has a reach it shapes the debate from politics to popular culture to conservative media and politicians use drudge to form their own opinions. the liberal posse uses drudge to put a face on their enemy the conservative fois. matt drudge spent a few minutes with wtop in d.c. here's a rare and brief look into the mind of the man who has the pulse of america at his keyboard just a few strokes away. drudge on drudge. >> i go where the heat is. i'm a heat seeking missile. i will go where the action is

before it's cool to do it. that's why i get into trouble. i make waves, i don't surf them. it's a little psychotic right now the news business because everybody is doing everything. but that still doesn't mean there are not important events. there's information coming all of the time. this is a vibrant era of media. it's not going away any time soon. >> bob let me start with you. matt drudge clearly one of the most popular websites on the planet. liberals must be shaking in their boots when they see their name. >> you can't deny what this guy that's done. he was the first one out. he's done enormous following. he set the tone for everybody else to come along. i don't begrudge drudge. >> i like it. >> i don't begrudge drudge. i think his point about sensing something will happen, i have that feeling about it as well and he points to the border and i think he may be right about that.

this may be a much bigger issue by the summer is over. >> when you're in the white house -- >> i like that story. tell the story. >> when you're in the press office or anywhere within the white house even if you don't like it you have to go to the drudge report, if there's a siren and your name is attached to it you know your day has just changed dramatically often not for the better. drudge has clever and biting headlines and then you can go there over and over again all day long like i used to do in england. i am a drudge addict. >> i am too. >> it does drive the news. >> the pictures. drudge finds the most absolutely perfect picture to the story. wow. the picture tells the story. >> sometimes it can be misleading click bait. i remember i clicked on the red siren and it was actually a sale on red sirens. that just angered me so much.

the most vital people in society are the people that are demonized by academia, mainstream media, hollywood. he pole vaulted over this wall of interference that we all face to directly reach common people and the media at the same time. now what he did for a living before this? >> i don't remember. >> no one does. he worked at a gift shop. he worked at the cbs gift shop. this guy is a recluse he makes greta garbo -- >> any original content? >> every once in a while they do editorial. >> ugliest website ever made. >> between the headlines, the siren, the pictures and placement of the story -- >> you know you're having a bad day when one of our divorces is on there. that happened to me. >> the left also has to tune

into drudge. >> everybody has to . it's appointment viewing. this is what i love about it. it educate people, okay. because instead of people wondering what's going on today they can go there and get it all and speak intelligently and understand what's going on in the political landscape. i love it. it's very informative. i love the way he aggregates the stories. you feel you're in washington. even if you're not on the hill you feel like you're there. >> it's one stop shopping. >> 10 billion visitors over the last year. phenomenal success. still ahead, comedian chris rock did a whole racial skit mocking white people last night at the b.e.t. awards. would that kind of racial humor fly in reverse? next on "the five."

♪ so the black entertainment awards aired last night i'm sure you caught our live coverage. one highlight, black comedian named chris rock i hear he's an up and comer. i'm not sure. interviews caucasians at a monster truck rally about their knowledge about the awards. it was like shooting whales in above ground pool. >> welcome to the b.e.t. awards. >> what's your favorite show on b.e.t. b.e.t. is black entertainment television. >> but it's black entertainment television so i don't know if he can be nominated. >> i'm going to pop some -- ♪ >> pretty easy to do but also truthful and funny.

but i know what you're think field goal you did the opposite you would be vilified. what if i showed up to ask about nickel back. who knows. the fact is it's called black entertainment television which tells you what is it and who it's for. there is no white entertainment television because frankly that's most of television. but even if it were not called b.e.t. would most of the whites know these people. chris rock illustrates the simple truth while there's overlap we like different things, different things that look and sound like us. unless they don't then we like them even more. >> have you ever date ad black woman? >> i wish. >> have you tried to date a black woman? >> yeah. >> what do they tell you. >> she didn't say much.

she basically walked off. >> you only tried it once. >> i was afraid after that. she was scary. >> i'm afraid of black women too. >> unity. see laughing at things that make us different is way better than crying about it. besides that's what white liberal entertainment television is for otherwise known as msnbc. so i want to throw this out there. what did everybody think of the b.e.t. awards last night. what did you think of it? >> i missed it. you make a good point. i didn't know they were on until you were doing a monolog about it. >> i was with the black woman. i don't know what everybody else was doing. >> that was an honest answer. >> 19 minutes left in the show. >> it's true. i was. >> you know, kimberly, chris brown joined lil wayne to join

loyal. >> i didn't see it. call me out. i was too busy producing the puerto rican entertainment awards also known as my apartment. do you want a front row seat? >> i don't know. >> all right. >> eric. >> eric bolling is holding his head down >> he performed his new single. you told me you were looking forward to that. >> i was. >> macelmore. >> i do. >> look, it's funny. it's comedy. it's funny. all for it. i don't feel about that. i wish the other side would feel the same way. >> i like it. >> i'm with you. >> i can't imagine a white comedian trying to pull that off. >> if it were funny is that

okay. >> look. face the fact that we're a different culture. they like it -- we got thing we like and i only crossed on certain things. >> that's what i love about america we can laugh about our vulnerabilities and it's funny. you can't do that anywhere else in the world. you can't have this funny conversation and laugh about it. >> it's changing. there are many people -- >> not on this show. >> who don't find things as funny as we do. next up, megan kelly, not sure who that is will join us and tell us what it's like to interview bill ayers. her full interview airs tonight. megan will be here in a minute. when it comes to good nutrition...i'm no expert.

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♪ there's a big interview tonight on "the kelly file."

we played a sneak peek of it on friday and another clip now. here's part of megyn's exclusive interview with former weather underground bill ayers. >> you admit people could have been purity. >> they could have been but thank god they weren't. >> do you appreciate the recklessness of it. >> i don't say it wasn't reckless and i don't say it wasn't illegal. it was illegal. we crossed lines. >> it's not about legality. it's so much about that. you could have murderrd someone with those bombs. >> we didn't. but actually the people who were conducting the war in vietnam did actually murder people. >> so the answer is then to make yourself murderer as well. >> host of the kelly file is here with us now to tell us what else we can expect. megyn, welcome to "the five." why did bill ayers pick your show on fox network to do his first interview. i don't get that. >> he hadn't done a google

search of megyn kelly. you know what? we invited him to come on for a july 4th issue. danish interviews people on the left and he and ayers had a debate at dartmouth college. i thought it was interesting. in any event i thought let's ask him if he'll come on and debate and talk to me about his own past and he said yes. >> what about danish. ? >> he sat out that segment. >> it was interesting because, listen, we've done a lot of interviews but as i was saying before, that's the first one where 30 minutes straight no one on the team interrupted me. everyone just watched. you could hear a pin drop in that studio. when it was over the word wasry vetting because how often do you hear a guy who bombed america,

repeatedly, sit and be held to account. here's the thing. when i looked at bill ayers, i have to give credit to my team, we spent weeks getting ready for this. all of the books about him, that was the key. because ayers is very quick to accept responsibility for stuff de. property damage. the pentagon, new york city police headquarters, the list goes on and on. that's fine no one was hurt. but there's other information about times people were hurt and even murdered by people affiliated with his group and that we had some real tense exchanges. >> didn't you want to jerk that earring out of his ear and feed to it him the wrong way. >> i did it with my words. >> that's why you're better than i am. >> most people -- when you're a public speaker like he is, even if he is reluctant in some ways you usually have a goal when you go into an interview. you want to accomplish something. you want to sell something.

you want to explain something. what do you think he's trying to prove? >> nothing. i think he wanted to have the intellectual debate about america that we had between ayers and desouza. he doesn't have a lot of problem talking about his past. however this is the first time certainly he's been held to account in this way. i read all of his sequester views in print. i watched all of the ones he did in sit down fashion. no one has ever -- the problem with interviewing bill ayers is he's smart and philosophical. he's an expert and defending his actions. i went at it sort of as a lawyer/journalist and took him through point by point. i didn't need a philosophical debate with him. the actions speak for them cess. let's go through things he admitted that he forgotten he admitted back in the '70s i showed to him in some explosive

changes. >> did you get into and this is what i would love to see, did you get into his relationship with barack obama. >> yes. >> where was that? barack obama when he ran for president distanced himself from bill ayers and now -- >> he's still with bill ayers. >> but since then there was a lot more -- >> interaction. >> they had a lot of ideology -- >> they got married in vermont. >> the matter about obama, president obama airs tomorrow night. i don't want to give too much away. most is tonight but some tomorrow. i asked him what the relationship was like. how close they were. and i also asked him whether president obama has ever contacted him since george stephanopoulos. >> how does he distinguish

himself from the tsarnaev brothers. >> the more he tried to justify them and kimberly you'll see this part tonight i told him specifically you know who you sound like? osama bin laden. you sound like adolf hitler trying to justify -- yes, he does. trying to justify the means by pointing to the ends. his whole thing is 6,000 people a week were being murdered in vietnam. >> thank you, megyn for coming on. watch megyn talking about the relationship with barack obama and catch the full interview tonight with bill ayers. one more thing is up next.

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time now for one more thing. greg is next. >> you know when you ask a question and somebody says leaving that aside that translate into what i'm about to say next has nothing to do with your question because i don't have an answer. >> i like that. >> don't use it or i'll come and kill you. >> leaving that aside, eric you're next. >> i want to do this right. i got this from a border agent, thank you again for sticking up for american values. stay the course. you have an immensely strong backing out there. if d.c. would let us do our job the borders would be stronger

and better. >> that's a very nice hat. >> love this hat. >> nice fit. i thought we had budget problems. >> kimberly. >> you mean how greg amazes us with his fan phrases. >> i think you're being sarcast sarcastic. >> pippa middleton at the wedding the whole big buzz became pippa and her cute little bums. >> we're in america. >> we're allies. >> our loyalty is to the kardashians. >> can i go to the sound. >> it was completely unexpected. it was not to be a significant dress just to blend within the train. i fount it flattering. the dress was meant to be insignificant. >> they are mocking my pippa.

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