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annual 4th of july party. every time she smiles and waves, an angel gets its wings. oh, look, there's another. i'm here with joanne nosuchinsky. and we forgot the special sauce, lettuce, cheese, onions and -- baugh we have a patty. and he stops here, bucks sexton, the national security editor and host of the show on the blaze radio network. and sitting next to me is actor kevin sorbo. >> that's the first story. they care more about messy than the irsy. we're talk with soccer i guess. according to a survey, young americans 18-29 are paying closer attention to the world cup than they are to president

obama's many, many, many scandals. 24% said they were monitoring events in brazil very closely. more than were following flares at veterans hospitals and violence in iraq. meanwhile that, game. u.s. lost to belgium despite the efforts of the u.s.'s goalkeeper. howard made 94 saves. here are some of his best ♪ ♪ >> oh, what a game. kevin. >> yes. >> welcome to the show. >> thank you. good to be back. >> the irs scandal isn't exciting. it's about lost e-mails at this point. but neither is soccer, especially if the u.s. isn't playing. on a scale of 1 to 19, how

troubled are you by this survey? >> i'm not troubled. i'm not surprised. what do 20-somethings care about paying taxes? the only ones that do gave up their lives or are serving in the military right now. are we surprised they go after soccer? what did michelle obama call them anyway? >> i still have the bruise. >> i'm sorry. >> that's okay. >> have you been following the world cup more closely than the crisis in iraq? be honest. >> definitely not. i'm a johnny come lately to the soccer. i did watch today, just in time to watch us lose. but i have to agree with kevin, i'm not surprised. the numbers reverse in the older age brackets. when you get to over 65, their number one priority is the v.a. scandal and soccer comes in last. people under 30 care less about politics and unless it's vietnam and it affects them in the

draft. as you get older, you realize that politics impact you more. so, i don't know why they're acting like this is a big shock. >> i agree. if there were a draft, they would care more about iraq. >> right, when it directly impacts them. >> i agree. buck, i know you're a huge soccer fan among your many unamerican traits. >> indeed. >> ann coulter wrote that any growing interest in soccer can only be a sign of the nation's moral decay. the question, how much blame does president obama have for this and should he be impeached? >> the answer is all of the blame and yes, should have been impeach years ago. you have to excuse me, because if you yell belgium sucks loud enough, you'll lose your voice. that was amazing, it was the first time there was a proamerican moment on msnbc.

you're saying usa and not saying down with it. >> it might be the first time in their adult life they're proud of their country. >> absolutely was. now they're burning their countries because we lost to a country that makes french fries with mayonnaise on top of them. >> delicious waffles. >> and very good waffles. but the kids, who they're paying attention to, very clearly, they don't care about the irs because they're living at home in their parents' basement, and not paying taxes. thanks, obama. see how i did that? [ laughter ] >> joanne, you are a young person, how often do you and your friends sit around discussing the irs scandal? >> really not that often. because we're too busy playing drinking games. which you can do during the world cup. but when you do it for news coverage, you feel a lot more guilt the next morning, you know. the issue with the scandals is that they go on and on for a

very long time, but this coming up is only here every four years for only a short -- not that short -- but a shorter amount of time. so we need to enjoy it while it's here. our problems will be there for us when we sober up in the morning. >> i kind of agree with you. i don't think this is a fair poll. if you polled people on super bowl sunday, most of them would care more about the game than the scandals. this is the same thing, isn't it? >> i care more about the super bowl. i kind of get it. republicans are paying more attention to the news than the democrats are. but the democrats are the ones putting out most of the news. which is interesting. i don't know what we do about that. it just drives me crazy. i think we're going to have a lot of that tonight. >> i feel bad now, kevin. >> don't feel bad. >> all right. >> courts.com, the website, pointed out all of the teams

that ban their players from having sex during the world cup, they've all been eliminated. [ laughter ] isn't it time to stop pretebbeding that makes a difference? let your players visit the brazilian hookers. >> whatever they need to do to keep up that testosterone. >> keeping up is the word. >> and supporting the local economy. >> i agree. >> is that a true story? >> that is a true story. >> interesting. >> i just want to point out, we lost to belgium today. whatever. we'll never know where it is on a map. nobody cares. we here at "red eye" have been making fun of belgium and we've done a lot of other stuff lately. can we roll that tape, please? >> will belgium ever figure out how to building a folk car? an electric ferris wheel? have they realized their dream of duplicating the excitement of nascar? some say yes, others say they're

stuck behind the modern world. will belgium ever achieve flight? will they understand buoyancy? the exclusive look at the nation's struggle to build a working navy. [ laughter ] >> take that, belgium! >> would have been so much funnier if we beat them today. >> i know. >> they're the other netherlands. all right, she shined a light on being white. the student president as a new jersey prep school was forced to resign after mocking her rich white classmates. she posted this picture on instagram of herself dressed up as the typical lawrenceville boy with hash tags rik romney 2016 and confederate. she denied making a mockery, writing in the comments, yes, i am making a mockery of the right-wing confederate flag hanging -- i guess i was

mistaken. peterson was responding to complaints of black students making the black power sign in the year book. she said i didn't become president to make sure more rich white guys were represented on campus. so a white guy is on top of the world? we asked one. ♪ ♪ i'm sitting on top of the world ♪ ♪ i'm rolling along ♪ just rolling along ♪ i'm sitting on top of the world ♪ ♪ just rolling along >> she kind of has a point, i think. i want to go to our black panelist first, buck -- >> i knew that was coming. >> is it time for someone to stick up for rich white dudes? >> i'm trying to think of a way i don't get in trouble here. if she did this and had to step down as president, let's just look at this for a second.

if a white student made a mockery of a black student, they would be sent home. they would be expelled. so there's a very big double standard. and i can't think of a funny white guy joke right now, other than i'm wearing a gold tie, so there's that. >> just keep looking at the camera. >> kevin, should she have been forced to resigned? >> should she have been forced to resign? there's a weird double staurnda. had it been a white guy doing it, it would have been much bigger news. so you just go, she's saying that she's doing this to make things better for black students? >> right. >> maybe bring in jackson and sharpton, because they're great at keeping racism down to a minimum. so, i don't know. >> along those points, is it possible that she's both kind of right about some of the lawrenceville students and also that as class president she shouldn't have posted that

picture with those hash tags? >> well, apparently there is some racism going on at the school. they're saying that there are kids who are using racial slurs and hanging confederate flags and all this stuff. that's all obviously reprehensible, but you don't fight it by attacking rich white guys. and it wasn't just in that quote that you had before, after baroque won the election, she posted on facebook, i'm sorry to all the rich white men who failed to elect a president who endorses their greed. clearly she's got a thing against the rich white guys. i mean, she ran -- >> i think she does too. i think that she was dating a guy on the ice hockey team, and she is now a jilted ex-lover. so she's taking it out on that whole gender and race because she has so much emotion and she doesn't know what to do with it. >> just to clarify, she is an out of the closet lesbian. >> okay, maybe not. but i liked your story.

>> in high school, we were just hoping the girls would talk to us. misogyny, this is ridiculous. this is a word she learned in a women's engender studies class, to throw around. >> she sounds like a left-wing high school student, doesn't she? >> or like a left-wing high school student. >> they're taught to repeat this stuff ad nauseum. they're a history of racial hoaxes on campus. you mentioned the confederate flags, just do a quick google search and people who are involved on campus say, look what happens, and it turns out they put the noose over the door or scribbled the graffiti. >> joanne, you grew up near this school. >> went to college in lawrenceville. >> you went to college near this school. >> so i went to -- ryder had a

nice hockey team. so i went to their ice rink. wonderful, very nice people. but i didn't see a single confederate flag anywhere i went. it's right next to princeton. you're not finding that anywhere in lawrenceville. everyone's tight-lipped and very nice, at least the ones that i've encountered. but it's a shame. she was the president of the student body, wanted to unite them, and how do you do that by isolating groups of people? i will never understand. >> that's where i think she went wrong. i think there should be a double standard, but i know nobody else is going to agree with me there. but i also think if you're the president of the class, you should probably choose your hash tags with more care. >> and you were elected by your student body, not just a group of the student body. by the majority. >> absolutely. i agree with that. all right, i'll take the heat on those tweets. [ laughter ] could violent games make you tame? a new side that says behaving

badly in violent games could increase a person's sensitivity to the reality world. participants were induced playing a game as a terrorist and then were quizzed on morals. the results showed that after a subject played a violent video game. >> they felt guilt and that guilt was associated with great sensitivity toward the two particular domains they violated, those of care/harm and fairness/reciprocity. let's look at the violent shooter game they used in the experiment. ♪ ♪ [ laughter ] >> that's disgusting. i don't know how that's legal. >> it's terrifying. >> buck, do you think this study holds water? >> i wasn't clear what the study was saying. guilt, harm, i assume if you're

in grand theft auto, for example, and you beat old ladies to death with a baseball bat, you know you can do in that game, maybe you'll feel built and that will translate to real life and you'll be a better person because of it. no, i'm not buying it. i think it's crap. the worst study i've heard in my life. >> p.a.b., this was not a long-term study. >> right. >> so it doesn't address the issue of people becomes desensitized over the long run. >> exactly. and the study's author specifically says that the results are particularly relevant for habitual video game users. how exactly? you don't know whether these people that you tested were habitual users or were doing it for the first time. so if you asked them to play the role of a terrorist, they feel bad. maybe after doing it for a hundred hours, they're desensitized. so the argument does not hold

water at all. >> so if you steal a bag of gold coins from the dwarf people, like that's supposed to -- i'm just trying to get -- >> i think in real life you'll behave better towards dwarves. little people? thau >> kevin, you've been involved in shows that had violence on screen. what do you make of this whole connection thing? do you think this study would hold true for movies and tv? >> i think it was a study brought on by electronic arts. our games don't cause any problems. in-group loyalty is not a moral. so it's a weird test to begin with. another study wasting tax dollars. if you're looking at school shootings going on across the country, half these kids are talking about were playing kindergarten killer, and they definitely have an effect on people over the long-term. >> but i wonder if it's not the video game that has the effect on people, but people who don't

have a moral compass, or don't feel guilt are more attracted to video games. >> video games for the vast majority of people who are normal and stable, i don't think it makes a difference when you play violent video games or not. >> could be a tipping point. >> i think for a small group of people who are not balanced, that doing that over and over again might have a long-term effect on them. >> right. >> i am not a scientist. i know it's hard to believe, but i should say that. >> but you don't have a doctor in front of your name. >> i don't have a white coat or anything. joanne, generally you feel no guilt whatsoever. could playing video games be your salvation? >> yeah, i'm doing comprehensive therapy for it. >> oh, good. >> i'm just playing lots of games. one might call me a gamer. that's my nickname now online. >> one probably wouldn't.

>> probably not. >> no. all right. coming up, the fourth but first the third. plus this. will going to prison make you a model, or a model citizen? neither. stay away from prison, kids. you're watching "red eye" on fnc, so stick around.

♪ >> will he do time, or calvin klein? well, just as i alone suggested, hot felon jeremy meeks is becoming a male model. meeks was arrested on five weapons charges, the internet pulled his collective groin in stressing how gorgeous he is. he's received offers for modeling contracts and reality

the tv gigs. he's hired a manager, gina rodriguez, who reps octomom and tan mom and also a teen mom turned porn star. but for now he's held in a county jail, bail set at $1.1 million. speaking ever criminals. >> white. okay. [ laughter ] >> did you see the tear drop tattoo that dog had? cute. this guy reports he had a modeling contract. entertainment weekly said nothing is official yet. sometimes early details aren't the most accurate. >> why are you looking at me for this? >> you're a news person. >> everything i report is 100% accurate all the time. >> all right. >> it's not clear at this point

whether he has a contract. but he has an agent. she said if he had been convicted of anything violent, she would not have taken him on as a client. but since it was just weapons charges -- but he does have the tear drop that you referred to with the dog. and the tear drop is apparently a gang symbol for, i have killed someone. whether or not he did, maybe he's just a poser, why would you want to pretend -- why do you want people to think that you killed somebody? >> right. >> it doesn't say much about his character. >> he didn't think about that before the modeling career. >> now he has to have it lasered off. >> maybe he feels bad about what he did in his past. >> or he's sensitive, andy, wants people know to on the inside he hurts too. >> he's a gorgeous boy, much like you, buck. >> i don't want to compare. he's missing a little something up top. around this table, we got a little something going on. he's so handsome. some of us could shave it too,

we choose not too. maybe we get a contract with reality tv. not going to happen. >> no, never. should the judge and jury consider how gorgeous he is, and let him off easy like they did with you in the '80s after you murdered that family of five? >> that's right. i got away with that. depends if the judge is female or gay, find him very attractive and get him off. if you're good looking, you can get away with murder or running guns. >> but can't you? >> i have. [ laughter ] but come on, here, another story. it's amazing to me, we give this guy any sort of credibility whatsoever. and now give him a reality show, to follow him when he does his next drug deal? it's very strange. >> might be an awesome show. did he have like missile launchers under his belt? might be running guns for the russian mob.

a million dollar bail is a big deal. >> joanne, are meeks' eyes really that piercing? >> oh, yes. right to my soul. i'm all for glorifying criminals. especially when they're hot. i'm so happy all this press he's getting. he really deserves it. really happy about his contract, but we'll see if he books anything. because you know, people have to work with him. if i were looking for a model, i might be a little nervous, maybe just a little bit. but if he can get out of that terrible environment he's been in, and stay out of jail, this is a really good thing. >> this is one of those things, i know you're sitting there thinking, i could change him. >> definitely. you can change a man. you can! >> oh, you're so young and naive, joanne. [ laughter ] >> buck, would you like to try to change him? >> i don't know what you mean by that, sir! i liked to see what he grows out up top, actually. then we'll have a mugshot-off --

he'll win. whatever. you put me in a weird position, andy, i couldn't squiggle out of it. >> if it makes you feel better, kevin, we're talking not about him, but about the coverage of him. so that makes us better than the people who just talk about him. >> that's true. >> that's how you weasel your way out -- >> that's how you decipher. very smart of you. coming up, an app that lets you rate your co-workers. i already have a tv show that does that. but first a word from our sponsor. >> we've elected actors, commedians, even a professional wrestler. isn't it about time we elected a horse? washington needs somebody who can say nay. i'm a horse and i approve this message. paid for by the when in rome super bike.

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♪ >> can the pie get you high? president obama made a crack about crack while saying goodbye to white house pastry chef on monday. >> we call bill the crust master because his pies, i don't know what he does, whether he puts crack in them, or -- [ laughter ] -- but -- >> no, he doesn't.

there's no crack in our pies. >> but it was a joke? or was the president finally being transparent for a change? and should he be so glib about a drug that's responsible for over 500 million drugs in the u.s. last week alone. we'll discuss in our segment. >> kevin there's only one real question here. impeach now, or impeach later. >> impeach later. >> oh, okay. >> good answer. >> it's an answer. >> was i supposed to elaborate on it is th? >> i was going to give him a week. >> that's later. >> why would the president make a joke about eating crack? is it because all jokes have an element of truth to them? >> well, no. believe everybody knows if you're going to put a drug in a baked good, it's marijuana. >> and come on, a pot pie,

that's a much better joke. >> this is true. >> absolutely. >> chicken pot pie and i don't care. [ laughter ] >> so this pastry chef is leaving the white house. is that because he's going into hiding to cover up the truth? >> well, yes, it's also a part of sequestration, which was the answer to all our world's ills. i would say with the president making this joke, was saddened to see some of the conservative media coverage of this today. people were like, it's so in -- look, no one is more critical of the president than i am, but the guy can make a joke and it actually reflects badly on conservatives. they freak out about this. they're missing the bottom line. it's a signal to the group that he works with, that the -- this is like the chicken is in the pot, a code word for the takeover of the fema camps. google it, people. >> joanne, as a crack

connoisseur, you know well that you basically smoke or you shoot crack. you don't eat it. does the president not know this? does he need someone in the media to tell him this? >> yeah, i'm not the right person. seriously, i mean, no. i just, i feel really bad because he's completely avoiding the big issue, which is the artery-clogging butter that's actually in those crust pies, diabetes from all the sugar, and sugar has the same chemical effect on the brain as crack. >> i'm not sure -- >> i just said that. >> i think we should check on that. >> there's no crack in michelle's pies. you can tell the difference. >> yes. >> that's the funniest part of the whole sound bite. where michelle has to make it clear, there's no crack in our pies. >> you were so close. oh, honey, you almost fainted. >> one more on twitter is going to make a really inappropriate

joke about this, and msnbc's going to run it. >> or colbert will run the opening that i just did as if i meant it. >> that's what they do. >> next topic. before a man they'll put a brand. yes, ads in space are happening. finally. mars one, a non-profit funding human mission to mars in 2025 is hoping to lure investors with a marketing opportunity. they're hoping to send a mission in 2018 and they're offering a chance for paying contributors to send marketing contributors. meaning ads for coca-cola or mars bars could get there before humans. unfortunately we've maxed out our "red eye" budget. great idea or fantastic idea? >> well, versus.com got it right. when they pointed out, just a little risky. they say that missions to mars

are notoriously prone to failure. less than half are successful. as such, a multimillion dollar marketing deal, very risky. what happens if it blows up? >> but isn't it worth the risk that your company could be the first to advise your product to the martians? five years later when the product gets there, the martians will be, like, i can't wait. >> where's the coke? the irony has not been lost on me that we have to rely on russia to get us into space nowadays. i like at least the private sector has picked up the wand here and is charging us back into space, which is a good thing. >> we see this kind of sponsorship all over sports, why isn't this any different? >> if it helps pay for missions to outer space, i guess that could be a good thing.

sham wows in space, sounds like a script. this could work. be a profitable venture, instead of like a huge money pit, sort of like climate change research. >> oh. >> come on! [ laughter ] >> joanne, could this be a new dating trend? >> oh, yeah, personal ads. have my face right on there. haven't met my soul mate yet, but he's out there. way out there. >> out of this world, you could say. >> i might fall in love with an extraterrestrial. you don't know that. i look forward to finding out. >> he could like like jeff bridges from starman. >> oh, there you go. >> i'm just nodding, i have no idea -- >> that was before your time. >> does he have a lot of money? >> of course he will. >> i'll take it. [ laughter ] >> kevin, is this a future movie, ads in space? >> i like that. as long as i have a part in it, i'll take it. but probably won't happen with

me and hollywood. i'm on their x-list right now. >> are you really? >>sure, i'm doing those faith-based movies. >> those movies that make a ton of money. >> time to take a break. when we return, a special performance by lisa lisa and cult jam with full force.

it lets you rate your office mate. a new app allows you to anonymously appraise your co-worker's personalities. the creators say it's like yelp,

but instead of rating business, you rate people. according to the website, it's a positive place for personality and it shows you what people like most about you. the great news, this won't be abused at all. the app pits two co-workers against one another, and asks questions, who's nicer, who's more trusting and who would you like to smear peanut butter on your chest? do you really need an app for this? >> yes, and e-mail. this could be a good thing. it could be an eye opener for the people in the office to know that they're not maybe liked as much as someone else. or they're not very trusting or very nice. then they'll just quit and make for a happier work environment. >> why are you staring at me? >> you didn't get that e-mail. >> yeah, okay. the company ceo says he wants it to be something that businesses use to screen potential employees, like future businesses can go back and look at this, i guess.

that's horrible. >> that's what upsets me most, he envisions it being used as a recruitment tool, where you can test somebody's personality and see how well they'll fit in -- it's not a popularity contest. >> it's not? >> not everybody is charming and that doesn't mean they contribute to the company. it's horrible. it's going to be cruel and hurtful. cyber bullying basically. >> for those of us who aren't awesome, this is a massive invitation to nuclear level trolling. this will blow everything else out of the water. this is going to cause hr around the country, if this actually catches on to just go to def con one right away. did you see the thing going on about bob? think about what people say about restaurants? now they get to weigh in, and

who weighs in, by the way, it's always the people who want to say that mater dee needs to be dragged behind a horse and cut into pieces -- >> don't you just tell them how you feel about them to your face, or better off, not tell anyone? >> people are brave when they can be quiet, they would never do that to someone's face. i think an iphone app is stupid away. i get my information if twitter and facebook anyway. what's weird, why can't somebody invent something that's useful? who is doing this study and why? >> because twitter is worth 50 billion. >> give us another social media platform. >> this company got like $2 million in seed money. so of course it's what they're doing. >> most horrible thing ever. >> joanne, how would you rate me? talks too much?

>> well, if it's like who talks more? >> yeah. me or a chair? >> oh, wow, the chair says a lot to me, though. but not to everyone. >> is that the crack? [ laughter ] >> woo! >> but some of the questions, like, who is most likely to give -- to buy girl scout cookies from a girl scout? how is that really relevant? >> it's like the shrimp on the treadmill. right? >> this is an app version of high school, basically from what i can tell. >> people think they know their co-workers. some people, they hold back, keep themselves at work. and then their friends and family will tell you this is the greatest most generous kindest person outside of work -- >> thank you. >> right. no matter if they think you're a bastard at work. i'm sorry, i didn't mean to gesture to you. >> we're all just attacking right now. >> your co-workers don't really know you, necessarily. >> yeah. >> you're taking this very personally. >> i find it, well, you know, i think not everybody has a

personality that makes them loved by everyone. it doesn't mean they should be cast to the curb. >> all right. occupy wall street is back as the subject of another great study. researchers discovered that ugly people are twice as likely to give to the smelly anti-capitalist movement. the details are complicated and boring, but it found that feeling unattractive makes people believe they belong in a lower social class and more likely to contribute to ows. if i could just find my notes on this. >> take your time. >> kevin? >> yes. >> this makes sense. there are very few people out there like you and me who are highly attractive and highly empathetic. >> that's true. we just talked about this a little bit, the occupy thing. i thought it was dead and gone. people that have heard about occupy wall street, they're not going to donate to it. it's only idiots that are, because they haven't heard about it yet. i have no idea why yet again another senseless sort of study

into what is going on in this country. i'm not blaming you, i'm -- >> i feel personally attacked at this point. >> i'm blaming the media as a whole. it's insane that we're worried about this and again, based on looks. maybe the arms smuggler can model with a bunch of -- >> this study, it seems to me, is also about self-perception more than anything else. they talk about people who didn't feel attractive. >> right. you can interpret it in so many ways. one of the ways would be that people who perceive themselves as unattractive also feel unlucky and they're being told they have this picket that might be the winning ticket or might not and then being asked whether they want to donate it away. they might say, i'm unlucky, i'm a loser, i'm not going to win anyway. but the people who maybe think they are attractive, think they deserve the money. >> i'm totally going to win. >> who is she talking about

here? >> i think it's this side of the table. >> buck, please rate your only attractiveness and ability to empathize on a scale of one on ten, both of them. >> is ten good? >> ten is good, like a normal [ bleep ] scale! >> oh, my gosh. >> when has a scale ever been to ten and one is good? >> i don't know. like a negative four. but i want to say that occupy wall street is, remember that scene in team america where michael moore comes in with two hoagies in each hand and a suicide vest on, like burn it all down, that's basically the underlying ethos of occupy wall street. i spent a ton of time with them, interviewed them, wrote a book about it, ebook, let's be serious. they just want to whine and explain, burn it all down. i don't know what to say. negative four, though. >> joanne? >> i would donate my time to a

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♪ >> coming up greg is back to host determine. gavin mcginnes and joe devito. >> last story, that's the last story. the new movie is set in the united states facing economic collapse and a government that will do anything to stay in power. in other words, welcome to obama's america. kevin sorbo plays a free market champion who goes missing. possibly kidnapped by the government. let's talk to him for a few minutes about the film, shall we? >> sure. >> tell us more about the plot. i know it takes place in a near

future america. >> it does. it ends based on a book around 1978, right around there. and before, you know, the 1984 movie, ironically. and it's sort of applies to what's going on in the government today, where the government is growing, growing, growing, taking control of a lot of corporations and businesses. so it's timely, and my character is a guy that's being persecuted by the government and he's got to go on the lam. >> yeah, i first read this book, i think it was the mid to late '80s. >> when you read it? okay. >> yeah. were you aware of the book when you were approached to do the movie? >> i was not. but i did read it when he approached me and talked about doing the movie. so i read it. it was interesting. and there's a trailer for it right there. i'm in there somewhere. there i am. no, that's a different movie. >> he's a full-on, i mean, he's a full-on libertarian. doesn't get any more libertarian than him.

>> no. if i post something that he disagrees with, he writes me back. you said that wrong! sorry. >> your wife is also in the movie. >> she is. and she plays my wife. >> did you have chemistry. >> sort of. >> it would have been bad if you didn't. >> so not believable. [ laughter ] >> your last movie, god's not dead, it cost $2 million to make. >> yes. >> it's made $66 million at the box office. >> another 17 million overseas, and still 33 more countries to open in. >> that's absolutely amazing. >> it's crazy. it's caught fire. pure flicks, i've done four movies with them in the past. for those who have netflix, check out "what if," another very good movie. but it's gone crazy. august 5 is the dvd release. it's amazing. it is very good. it is faith-based. i play an athiest college

professor. i really had to act because i'm a christian. i get challenged by one of my students. >> when it hollywood going to figure out that these movies are money-makers? >> slowly but surely. more is coming to the table with it. i think they learned from noaht athiest director. >> i liked noah a lot, but then again i'm agnostic. >> you should see "god's not dead," we'll bring you over to our side. [ laughter ] >> i think you or someone is lying here. according to ifdb, you have four films completed and 11 in post production, and they're all coming out in either 2014 or 2015? that's not possible. >> i'm sleeping with everybody in hollywood. [ laughter ] >> is that right? are these movies you made in

19 1943? >> no. shot over the past three years. one is called the secret handshake. howie clausen wrote it. he was up for academy award for "space cowboys." >> last one. tell me about "can't get arrested." >> it's a new pilot we're working with the hallmark channel right now. >> love that channel. >> it's the bethenny hamilton story. yeah, i've been busy. two more movies lined up before i shoot the pilot for hallmark in september. >> what's the show about? >> it's in the moonlighting vein, sort of a romantic, comedy drama. she has to be canadian because we're shooting there. otherwise i would pick you. >> but it should be someone you have less chemistry with than your wife. >> probably. hopefully someone that we can still fake it. >> absolutely. thanks a lot, kevin. >> appreciate it.

>> very special thanks to joanne, buck sexton, patty brown and kevin sorbo. that does it for me. i'm tv's andy levy. i will see you next time. that's tomorrow.

more on this tonight at 8:00. >> hello, everyone, i'm with bob beckel, dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." supreme court hobby lobby decision ignite ad firestorm of reactions across the political spectrum yesterday with the most wild reactions coming from the left. listen to this claim by the front-runner in 2016 election. >> it is a disturbing trend that you see in a lot of societies that are very unstable, anti-democratic and frankly prone to extremism. it's very troubling that a