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story. -- hepititis is another story. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky. he is a had cold as pluto, but most closer. excellent use of the chin thing. don't let his last name fool you. his ego is massive. he is my lover. sherrod small. >> ♪ these girls ain't loyal >> and he is so bright the rest of the world must wear shades. first time guest jason riley. he has a new book that came outlast month called "please stop helping us, how liberals make it harder for blacks to succeed." that's him on the cover. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> greg, i'm in your apartment right now. i prepped the kill room for your arrival. bring the sacrifice. i will be waiting. >> excellent. a bunch of wean weenies got rid of the bikinis.

the edition was pulled after they got 11,000 signatures. all losers. here is the video. >> that was the wrong tape. i thought i lost that. >> that was the right tape. >> can we see the actual tape? >> this is jess, hannah. >> ariel jie. we are taking you through safety in paradise. >> relax. >> are you on island time now. >> play close attention and obey crew member instructions and illuminated signs. fasten your seatbelt and make sure it sits low and snug across your hips. although we recommend you keep your seatbelt fastened. >> intriguing. we should check out more to make sure we know what we are talking about.

>> life jackets are inflated by pulling on this red tag. >> only do so once you have exited the aircraft. >> if you need to inflate your life jacket a bit more, blow into the mouth piece. >> blow into that mouth piece. >> shut up, sherrod. natasha young started the petition saying it should not be an excuse to object tau fie the 6 liesed female body. the video disregards passengers who find it offensive for religious reasons who have body image struggles and who are parents that are concerned about their children's impressionable nature and women who deserve more respect and dean age -- teenage daughters who deserve more respect. >> is this people looking to be off -- offended? >> they needed one of those

trailer warnings. some people get out of bed every morning and look for something to offend them and i think that's what we have here. >> it is true. they should get on on a plane and go warning, this video will upset you if you have no sense of humor and from you a very, very sad individual. sherrod, you are nodding in agreement with the petition. >> i agree with the petition and i am ashamed jason would say something like this, brotha. after the struggles we have been through. this woman who is upset in uh streel yaw. she is right to be upset. she is probably a little heavy. let's not laugh at her, jo-jo. it is not to laugh at. some people are heavier. maybe her marriage is not what she wants it to be. her husband is impotent. i'm just putting it out there. maybe it does affect her. me, i'm living so it doesn't affect me. >> i see your point. happy people don't start petitions. >> yes. if you are happy with what is going on in your situation, who cares about this? you don't want your kids to

know what? women are gorgeous? we learned that at an early age. >> joanne, i'm sure you were angry you weren't in the video, but do you think they pulled it -- they said they pulled it because they were planning on it, but are they lying? >> definitely. when you spend that kind of money on a safety video paying all of those models their huge paycheck i'm sure -- >> you are angry. >> you will milk it for everything it is worth. you don't have to fly air new zealand. if you hate it this much you do not have to fly with them. i don't know what is with all of these petitions. if you don't like a business decision you don't give that business your business. >> it is air new zealand. how many do they have? >> i can relate to what the models are going through. i have done a lot of videos. >> it is very true. you were wearing very little clothing. i found that deeply of on fen sigh. offensive. yes is the only thing i can

come up with. yes, yes, yes, yes cubed. andy, this comes down to the logic that i don't like something so you can't see it. >> greg, this video is obviously problematic. it is showing very attractive women clad in skimpy bathing suits. the camera is lingering on their is up pell skin and showing us their pouty lips and their luscious curves. what was i saying? >> i have no idea. >> at first i was confused about the part of the petition that involves offending people who are religious. then i realize she means muslims. offending religious christians is not only a problem, but a plus. she didn't mean that. she is talking muss lemes. muslims. >> has true. who -- that's true. who else would complain? >> buddhists? they are into it. >> hindus are nice. the guys with the big swords. the sikhs? >> yes, the sikhs. there are some over in

queens. >> i am no expert. >> new zealand a is the problem. everybody knows new zealand is australia's new jersey. >> you know what it is, this is about australia hating on new zealand. that's the rivalry. >> thank you. they like the crypts and the bloods over there. i don't want to get pulled into it. >> stay out of this. stay out of it. i hate petition people. i would start a petition to end petition people, but i hate petitions so why start a petition to hate on petition people. i would just be like them. so instead i will live my life and enjoy myself, right? yes, applause. >> it is like an open letter opened in front of a whole bunch of people. >> here we go. is there no place for his thoughts on race? it is time for another edition of --

>> is this racist? >> he was fired by siriusxm after he posted tweets following a fight with a black woman in time square. >> we have all been there. >> that we minds me of the prom. -- that reminds me of the prom. they have the limo and the sparkling apple cider. >> i don't know. >> continue reading, sherrod. >> i forgot this was a television program. >> he has appeared many times on this program and gently describes the encounter on twitter. so they are taking pictures of a black girl who was in frame and punched me in the face. i called her an f-ing -- i like how he used the swearing. he spelled it out. he punched -- she punched me five more times and she would be dead. and then five blacks started

giving me the f-word. i started to back the "f" off and it wasn't their show. the phrase i can't use then punched me again. seems white boys don't hit back. lucky savage. he went on. >> why even read it? >> it is a jungle out there in the cities after midnight. violent savages on the streets and they came to defend this pig. i had to yell at like dogs. the automatic jump to violence in the community is astounding. no discussion, just violence. when will that be addressed? all right, never. slavery did it so okay. siriusxm called them racially charminged and abhorant and they canned him. they started a boycott sirius movement and they said stop firing people for being themselves. >> you make the point. >> how shocked was sirius?

>> it reminds me of the naacp and the nba's reaction to donald sterling. this guy has been behaving like this for a longtime. they have been playing with fire for a longtime. i find a it hard to believe that they were truly, truly shocked. >> it can't be shocking that the owner of the los angeles clippers plantation was a racist. >> sherrod, you know him and you have done opi expe anthony. >> we shared holidays together on long island. true story. >> that's beautiful. >> were you deeply hurt by the tweets? >> i was hurt by it because it was actually me dressed in a wig who attacked anthony. i apologize for that. my thing went too far. >> you know what, if you are a grown man you get into any altercation, don't go to twitter after. nobody is going to have your back. that's not a man thing to do. i love anthony, but why are

you going to twitter for? guess what, twitter, i got into a fight. get a beer and relax. >> save it for the show. >> that's a good point, joanne. if he had just waited until -- >> it is about your audience. you need to know your audience. unfortunately the twitter audience is full of trolls. they are looking for you to mess up. they are looking for something to prey on because they want you to feel -- they want to feel more powerful by making you feel weak. >> don't bring up the fact you have a gun fighting a woman. just saying. nobody will say you should have pulled the gun out on that girl. >> there are some that said that. >> on a girl? it is just not a good thing -- i love anthony, but he should have saved it for the show. >> he said he didn't hit back though. >> don't go to twitter at all. twitter is not your friend. >> let me ask you this, he got hit a couple times and he claims he is the victim. >> he is. >> the person that hit him is more sympathetic to him, but

should he have called the cops? >> if he felt he was in danger. guys calling cops when girls hit them, i don't know. >> to be fair he said four or five guys jumped in. >> i mean, i just -- >> yeah. >> i think that is indefensible. and we have to remember he has no right to a job at sirius. it is not a free speech issue. free speech is about the government. i can say something that would get me fired from my job tomorrow. that's true of everyone sitting here. >> i know jie. can you get fired for things sherrod says? >> this shows me how much those fellas nailed it. he would have called patric expe he would have called him through. a black friend on the scene

will mess up a white dude's life. >> the argument for this is not a free speech issue, but a free market issue, it is true, but would it have worked in reverse if it was a black radio host and a white group of people? is it a free market defense? >> probably not. >> if a black dude was hitting a white woman? what are y'all talking about? >> listen to me. you said if it was flipped. >> if it was a black dj. >> and a white woman he was hitting on? >> the white woman hit him and five white guys came after him. >> how will this play out? >> that's my point. that was my question. i was asking andy. >> anthony in that case would have got arrested. it is a white woman. >> we had decades of this.

>> that's the interesting thing about anthony. he lives as if certain movements have never happened. >> why is he walking through time square? that's the biggest problem right there. avoid him at all costs. >> what are you doing in the first place? >> taking pictures in time square. that's always the germans. >> and al-qaeda. >> i don't know. >> when we all saw the tweets the night he did it, and my first reaction was, okay he will be the one guy that doesn't apologize. he does president apologize. -- he doesn't apologize. and then i thought i wonder if they will can him for this because of where he did it. this is what i want to know, would they have fired him if they said those things on the show. he pretty much has been for years. not only did they not care, but they reassigned him.

there is a disconnect. this week they are airing the best of opie and anthony show. one minute you call him hate-filled and the next he is on the air. >> could we beheaded for "duck dynasty" repeats? >> you know what, the first thing i did was i called jim norton and said what can i do to help this? i know the landslide is coming. >> he said sleep with me. >> the second thing he said is is there going to be a job opening? >> can i help out by taking anthony's place. does he think it is all theater? opie and anthony have been talking about the fact that they are raising no policy. could this be a ruse? >> i don't think anthony should apologize for it.

what are you apologizing for? being yourself? >> now he says he will do the show from these basement? that sounds exciting. you are moving on up? >> a million listeners? >> i do hope it is a ruse. in terms of his career i would want a it to continue on. >> it would be great if he does that. that's a lot of listeners coming to a pod cast. mark mare rine -- marin ain't got that. i can say it. i'm an a-hole. >> if something is on twitter does it hurt anyone? >> no. >> it hurt anthony. that goes back to what tom shillue said. the only person that gets in trouble are the people who make the racially charged re, mas. remarks. >> let's test that theory. >> i like the hand movement. >> when you have nothing to take people will leave you

alone. >> when you are a comedian. >> you knee what i like -- you know what i liked? joan rivers walked off of cnn. >> that was great. >> she said i am a comedian and i am supposed to be mean and i am supposed to do this stuff and she got up and left. i thought it was beautiful. >> speaking of cnn, didn't roland martin get in trouble for super bowl tweets? >> it was about soccer. he said -- it was along the lines of a gay score. >> that's going too far. in america soccer is just a game we let our 12-year-old daughters play. it is not gay. it is just for little girls. >> i am glad we offended some people. there will be no apologies for sherrod. you won't even remember this. >> remember what? >> coming up, won't you like to know. well you would. i am stating a fact. coming up, a man falls asleep

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>> it is these nap time. during the fourth inning of a nationally televised yankees and red sox game, two espn announcers took a moment to comment on a sleeping fan. roll tape, tape rollers. >> it is not the place you come to sleep. how comfortable is that a? probably won't have neck problems tomorrow. >> is that guy to his left his buddy who is letting him sleep? is he alone? what is the deal with this

guy? >> maybe that's his buddy and he likes him a lot better when he is asleep. >> now the fan is suing espn, the team, the commentators and mlb in a $10 million deaf defamation suit. the used car salesman says because his reputation is so pure have been severely damaged and he will lose out on these future earnings as i might add a used car salesman. the suit claims the comments made him look, quote, a confused individual that neither understands nor knows anything about the rivalry between the red sox and the new york yankees and it notes they implied he is a fatty cow that needs two seats at all times and represents a symbol of failure. who wrote this? that's his lawsuit. it makes no sense. amazingly this is not the first time the espn announcers have made dismissive comments about someone napping.

>> it is not the place you come to sleep. i tell you what, how comfortable is that? probably won't have any neck problems tomorrow. >> i mean is that guy to his left his buddy who is letting him sleep? is he here alone? >> that was magic. i could watch that for days. lawsuit legitimate? i will i will illinois law -- ill legitimate? >> i want to know how he came up with 20? why not 5? >> it was his loss of earnings as a used car salesman. >> i can't figure that out. it is another case where the loser pays. cutting down on this frivolous lawsuit nonsense. >> the loser pay thing should not be money. it should be indentured servitude. >> with maybe a used car salesman. >> as a punishment you have to

go back and live your life. sherrod, here is my problem. are you surprised more people don't sleep during these games? they just picked him because he was so fat, right? >> how can you miss him, am i right? i thought it was a free willy type of situation. anyhoo, i felt worse when a black man was caught on tape -- that's the real dude who needs -- you never be caught by white people eating chicken on camera. you sitting there i knew they love it. i knew it! >> terrible, terrible. if he tweeted that you would have been fired. >> from where? >> andy, isn't his lawsuit more offensive to him than the announcers were? >> the thing about the lawsuit is it means much more people see the video of him sleeping at the ballgame. i didn't see it when it first happened. i never would have known about it. the biggest jerk is the guy's lawyer who should have shut

this down before it got started. that's the person who should have to pay. >> can i also defend john cruck who is one of the most self-depricating announcers. he is poking fun at himself and his own physique. >> he is a large man with a lot to grab. >> out of all of the sports fans baseball fans are the most law tee jus. >> that's an amazing fact. that should have been on there. it should say sherrod small, expert in something. joanne, that was space ball -- that is baseball and it is played by men. >> i have been to a few. >> do you think he has a legitimate case for being rid -- ridiculed on television? >> not if he was sleeping. maybe if he was hit by a ball, but still no. your second row needs to be aware of the sur roundings -- surroundings. you know the cameras will be

going to you in the front. even sometimes not the front. >> can we just admity we may be being generous as to say he is sleeping as opposed to passed out. >> what if he were dead? >> i said that on "the five" today. >> oh i didn't watch. >> along with the rest of america. >> what do you mean? we are number two in all of cable. >> they are not my friends. >> i have problems with the rest of them. >> you like dana. >> dana is my peoples. who are the other three? you and the other two? i have to come on that show. tom shillue is all through there. wonder why that a is? >> are you intimating that's because he is white. >> no because he is a sage tear yous.

>> now are you not fulfilling -- fulfilling stereo types. >> what is wrong with you? before we go, the announcer's conversations proved that point. they are talking about that which shows you baseball is boring. >> to be fair, that wasn't at the broadcast of the game. >> where was it? >> they got some extra stuff. it wasn't on an extra broadcast of the baseball game. >> i didn't know that. >> that's why i am here, greg. it is to blow a hole in your story. >> i don't know if that is right. >> you might want to check it. >> i guarantee you. >> right now they can google

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>> they have the nerve to reserve. a san francisco-based website, robert -- aren't they all, gobbles up the hottest restaurants and then sells them back to users for $12 essentially scalping the reservations. the reservation hop.com informs customers, quote, after payment we will give you the name to use when you arrive at the restaurant. while the site claims they can sell the unsold reservations four hours in advance and the restaurant gets a cut of tables booked through the site many locals aren't buying it. one chef says the site, quote, has the potential to be hurtful that rely on a reservation book full of diners that actually show up. i hate this idea. it is awful and selfish. basically the restaurant gets a cut and then only the consumer gets screwed. that is great, right?

that's america. >> that is america. if it doesn't work it will shutdown. >> i think it is -- when i was a kid i hated scalpers. they would buy the best seats from the concert and then you had to buy the ticket from them. >> haven't the economics guys talked about this? >> i don't read. >> i think scalpers make the market more efficient. >> how so? >> you have to read the book. >> that's not fair. you can't do that in a debate. >> i am not a huge fan. if not people aren't it won't go anywhere. >> you know who i saw in 1987, my friend? i went to an animal rights concert with the b-52's.

i would remember that -- >> "love shack." >> that's a pretty good impersonation. >> love to see you dancing at a b-52 concert. >> i am getting abused. >> we missed you. >> thank you. is this like scalping? they take a free table and they book it. you have no choice but to use a scalper. that's not american. >> well, it is kind of -- if nobody shows up at the restaurant do they pay the restaurant money? >> i don't know. i didn't read the whole thing. >> i don't like it. >> it doesn't affect appleby's. >> how about joe -- jojo down there? you said you would go next wednesday. >> when you go with him he says you are going to the

bathroom and then he says let's go, let's go. >> i dine-and-dash. >> i will bring my own sauce. >> diane, you usually eat alone in a dimly lit bed. >> you don't usually need a reservation for a party of one because you will sit at the bar. >> looking for eligible married men. >> if i don't pay for dinner i am not paying for a reservation. i hate this. this is so ridiculous. it is absurd. thankfully in new york there are tons of restaurants you can go to. i don't see this happening here. it is full? oh i will go somewhere else. >> the market will take care of this. if too many restaurants subscribe to this, customers will let the owners know and the restaurants will say we are not going to take part. >> let the experiment unfold until there is mute knee. >> if you are a customer there is no restaurant that is booked now.

you can always find a way through the restaurant through the site. >> i didn't hear you because todd was talking in my ear offering a dumb joke. can you tell todd to shut up? >> shut up. >> does this huh fect you at -- does this affect you at all? >> it does for you. >> i have a couch. >> the word we are looking for is do cru hy. douchy. >> what does that mean? >> it means it is not an accident that just happened in san francisco. and the reason i don't have a problem with this is all of those people trying to get reservations are the same people who call themselves foodies. the whole city of san francisco is filled with people oh i'm a foodie. >> i like to eat. >> i like to eat. who doesn't? >> all of these people -- >> that means you like to eat? oh i thought it was a different lifestyle.

>> if restaurants want to put an end to this they can do it easily. this place makes reservations under fake names. when you buy the reservation they give you that name. >> right. >> so restaurants need to start i.d.ing people. >> and then it is over. >> if you don't have the right name to match the id. >> the other thing i want to bring up is it is called scalping. when are the native americans going to come out against this? >> when are all seven, eight native americans going to get in here. seven left. >> i find the term offensive to me. i am with everyone on that i think. in fact, i am starting a petition. according to new research, my four favorite words, 49 is when men become invisible to younger women. good thing i just turned 24. a survey of both sexes said starting in the -- there are only two? thans trans phobic. starting in their late 30s men are viewed more as father figures than sex symbols. the clearest sign of a dude's

diminished appeal is women no longer chat them up at bars. other signs are gray hair, double chin, thinking hair, bad teeth. none of which you will find on this gorgeous, gorgeous face. going to the dentist on thursday. i know i am losing a little bit there. i still look great. >> and there are carve outs here. >> donald sterling is dating black women. >> they won't have trouble pulling 20 something's. >> they are a huge carve out. >> not to mention liquor and roofies. >> i went to college. don't blame me foregoing to college and learning science. >> you can apologize for that. >> the world health organization, who? >> that's good.

>> joanne, you only date men in their 80s so you can rest on the wheelchair as you push them in. and then you always get -- >> like to go for a ride. >> you love vacationing because you get to board first. >> you know what isn't invisible, money. >> cash money. gyro lex -- rolex, black car, i see all of that. >> oh you said black card. i heard black and i passed out. >> they determine the age by if women would come to chat up the guys. i am not chatting up a guy. mr. oldee over there can come chat up me. >> that's an invitation right now. >> and it is the best to be invisible. now we can sneak up behind them. they don't know we are there. is there a ghost in here?

i hear a ghost. >> sherrod, you are a wierdo. >> your grandpa says hi. we went to school together. i am an old dude. >> i don't know what you are talking about. my ears have surrendered. andy, are you almost 60. you are not just invisible, but you are legally dead. >> this is real and spectacular. knowing how it used to be back when we were younger and how women used to hit on me at bars. i think it is probably true. 39 sounds like a good average. >> you know what it is? you realize you are suddenly a different species. it is like used to be you were like two of the same thing. but then if you go in it is like a lion and a turtle. i am the turtle and i walk by the lion and i don't even see it. >> it works. >> where is the other lion? >> it works for us because these young girls have daddy

issues. what do they look at us for? like a daddy. that's like puzzle pieces. >> 39 and single at a bar doesn't have baggage? >> baggaged out. the dude? yeah the dude got baggage, but the girl has more baggage than him. >> it is one big jfk baggage claim. >> i'll take a bag. >> i didn't know where you were going with that. >> i didn't too. i failed. >> don't try that at home. he is a pro. do not try that at home. >> exactly. that's my -- 50 is the new 30. i just came up with that. how is that, america or whoever is watching. hello zimbabwe. a guy from zimbabwe watches "red eye." >> stop wanting to introduce me to more black people. sherrod, meet jason, a guy from zimbabwe. you are too much. you are like where black meets.com. that's greg trying to introduce black people to each other.

>> time to take a break. don't even think of leaving me now. we will talk about jason riley's new book. >> is jason black? did i meet him yet? >> not cool. order at amazon.com. autographed copy at g gutfeld.com. stick around.

last week marked the 50th anniversary of the civil rights act and 49 years since lbj gave an address called "the great society." they were meant to give african-americans in the president's words the same chances every other american to learn and grow and work and share as uh saw saw tee. in his new book "please stop helping us." he says too many helping hands

have done more harm than good for african-american societies over the past five decades. he has been with us all night. we will talk to him. first off, show the cover again. th is not you on the cover, is it? >> i want to thank sherrod for posing. >> you are welcome for that. >> i have been a hand model and face model for years. >> jason, did you want to be on the cover or not want to be on the cover? >> when i get as famous as you, greg, i will pose for the cover of my books. until then i will use sherrod. >> i have been doing pilates to stay in shape. >> how would you explain the book to somebody like joanne who is very slow? >> the book argues that the blacks must ultimately help themselves. they must develop the same habits and behaviors and attitudes that other groups had to develop to rise in america. and to the extent the government program interferes with the self-development. however well intentioned it is, it can do more harm than good.

>> many on the left claim the black students who do as well in school because the teaching methods are geared toward whites. how would you respond to that argument? >> asians do better than whites. >> that's true. >> i think that pretty much explains that argument. what the black left doesn't want to talk about is black culture. instead they want to talk about white behavior. they want to use racism as an all purpose explanation for all that ailes black america. the discussion is not about black crime national tee. criminality. it is about gun control. it is about everything else except black behavior. that's what the book tries to confront head on. if blacks want to change their position in society, we need to talk about black culture. it is really a conversation a that blacks need to have among ourselves. you are all invited, but it

has to be between sherrod and myself. >> we have a black man in the white house. but it is not for long. two more years maybe. what does this mean to black americans? is this a great thing or is this -- >> it is fine, but it can't compensate for a black man in the home. that's the bottom line. politicians can only do so much. i believe lbj was well intentioned. he did right in signing the civil rights act of 64 and the voting retes act of 1965. i applaud the people in the civil rights movement, the freedom writers. i think all-americans can be proud of the fact that they made this country more just. where the government gets in trouble it ensures equal outcomes and not just equal opportunity. that's where we have aired. the open welfare benefits do

not help a group develop a work ethic. holding the kids to the lower standards does not help them close the achievement gap. blacks don't need another redistribution scheme. we don't knee slavery repir repirations. they have a poverty rate in the single digits. there is your anti-poverty program. get married before you have kids. >> sherrod are you married? >> i have been married several times and it didn't work out. i dribble and shoot and hope for the best. >> ladies and gentlemen, that's the ending of that segment. i don't even know. why did i ask him? >> i changed my mind. sherrod is not invited. the rest of you, however. >> and you are watering your night clothes and your pajama pants.

>> we are against a hard break. sorry. >> we have to go. coming up, crowd funded potato salad. is there any other kind?

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jesse joyce. >> e block. last story. that's the last story. >> jesse joyce. >> you say potato and i say mayonaise covered gold. some guys received over $40,000 in crowd funded donations to make potato salad. five days ago zach brown, a potato salad novice set a modest goal on kick-starter. his donation page explains basically i am making potato salad. haven't decided what kind yet. the money will go to a potato salad merchandise and a variety of recipes at a party streaming live on-line where they will have sex with mr. potato head. >> this is not right. >> first of all, he should be free to be able to get that money. they should take the check and give it to homeless people. >> once you raise it for a specific thing you can't do it. >> that's where we should step in with society.

he walks in and we beat him and give it to the homeless kids coming across -- give it to somebody who needs -- >> this is an economic indicator. people have disposable income to spend on this. what recession? we are back. >> if you can't spend $40,000 on a potato salad, we are doing pretty well. >> we must be. >> joanne a? >> i would not donate to this. my mother's potato salad is the best out there and i get that for free. i am not going to any party. i am going home to jersey. >> there is no such thing as a free -- >> do you use hellmund's mayo? >> it is called best food's. they changed the name. when you go from the west side it is best food's and then hellmund's. the same thing with laura scudder's.

>> what is that? >> when i am in vons in l.a. and i look for hellmund's and it is -- >> best foods. you love men named zach. zac efron, zach poson. >> all great people. why not? the sad part is there are worth while things on kick-starter. it is not a zero sum game and i am guessing most of the people wouldn't be giving the projects. they are doing it because it is funny. >> this is so when you go to a cocktail party you can say i donated to a potato salad kick-starter instead of i helped my cousin with a loan which would have been nicer. there was a dpr article in the -- there was a great article about immigrants who loaned money to their family. they helped people out. you know what we do? we give money to potato salads. it means the economy is coming back.

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united states tonight, 8:00 p.m. >> hello, i'm dana perino. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." the crisis surrounding the flood of unaccompanied illegal immigrants at the u.s./mexico border is intensifying by the day. president obama will twrafl to texas 20etomorrow but will not visiting the border. he will have a meeting with state and local leaders that's 500 miles away in dallas. that meeting will include republican governor rick perry. while the meeting might be a first step to democrats representing border districts say the president