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>> thanks for joining us. see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, and america's news room anchor, bill. >> i've been trying to avoid you ladies for months. >> why? >> well -- >> there's no turning back now. but that's the problem. you've been trying to avoid me since we broke up but that ends today. today you cannot escape. >> i'm glad we got powers in between us. listen. i grou up with three sisters, okay? and they are full of personality. i've heard everything twice and nothing here is going to
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surprise me. >> sounds like a challenge. >> this is the easiest show in america. i'm one guy with four women. you guys talk all the time anyway. >> oh, wow. >> you just called us out to bring the heat. >> he did say that. that's true. we have to get that -- >> it's great to be with you, by the way. >> great to have you. >> lots to talk about. another busy news day. president obama taking a beating for his handling of the crisis at the border with mexico. for months tens of thousands of children pouring into the u.s. illegally and unattended. overwhelming border agents and local communities but when air force one takes him back to washington in just a few hours, it will be without visiting the border where his critics in both parties want him to go. mr. obama explaining why after his meeting with texas governor rick perry and local leaders, saying his homeland chief has been at the border numerous times. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem.
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i'm not interested in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. and those who say i should visit the border, when you ask them what we should be doing, they're giving us suggestions that are embodied in legislation that i've already sent to congress. >> and the president is not only not going to the border. he's coming out swinging at republicans, saying they are the ones standing in the way of approving the nearly $4 billion he wants to fix the crisis with most of that money going to housing and taking care of these children. >> i said this directly to the governor. are folks more interested in politics or solving a problem? if they're interested in solving the problem, then this can be solved. if the preference is for politics, then it won't be solved. >> meantime, texas governor perry has a harsh assessment of
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how the president is handling the overflow of illegals saying mr. obama has the power to stop a humanitarian crisis in its tracks. republican governor on hannity right after his talk with the president. >> that's the same president that said al qaeda is on the run and, you know, i don't know whether he's inept or there's something else going on as i've said before, but the fact is the border is not secure. we have a humanitarian crisis on our hands now because the border is not secure and the president needs to understand that the single most important thing that he can do is put the national guard on the border to coordinate with local law enforcement, with our state law enforcement, with the border patrol and you can secure the border. >> also democratic congressman whose district is right on the border has been weathering the president for having plenty of time to socialize at fundraisers
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but still won't visit with local leaders who areront lines in the crisis. the congressman calling it bizarre and detached. here he is on fox earlier today. >> he's the president. he can go down to the border, i think, today he's in austin, texas. i'm very familiar. it's 242 miles from the border but again, it's up to the president to go down there. i'm hoping that if he doesn't make it this time that sometime in the future, he can go in. we don't need to have photos. i emphasize. >> that was on a show you might be familiar with. he was snagged in the hallway. america's news room. >> he's been quite brave, i think. texas congressman, that's his district but he's been critical of the white house and the president on this trip. he said today alone they'll release 250 individuals at bus stations and they'll go off to new york and virginia and maryland ask wait for a hearing two years from now that likely will never take place because
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the second party in that hearing will not be president. you have two things you have to do right now. you would have to send in the national guard and that would not stop everybody because these illegals coming across the border now are from countries that are protected bit law. but what perry's point is down there in texas, governor will tell you if you put the national guard down there, that would send a message to the home countries that america is no longer an open door. i don't know if that's going to happen. the time to do that right now is when the president is in texas. two days waking up this morning in austin, texas and that has not moved yet. there's another bit of legislation in congress which seems to be a bit of a stretch right now but we can talk about that in a moment. i don't see this being solved by anyone any time soon. >> that's very sad. >> both sides coming up with ideas. i want to get you in on this right off the top because this is the situation where we are seeing, i think uniquely, bipartisan criticism of the president in terms of the
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situation, how it's been handled, he was not front and center down at the border but says he has people there. >> right. what do you think the white house can do to improve this situation? both in terms of how they're communicating their level of interest and focus to the problem and steps to make it better? >> look. it doesn't look good. he's playing pool, drinking beer with the colorado governor and -- >> fundraisers. >> there's a very serious issue going on. humanitarian issue, crisis and i think that whatever side you're on in terms of how it should be handled, the president should be engaged to write it off and say i don't do photo ops, web that's not true. we know he does photo ops and when there's a disaster, you go to the site of the sdaser and nobody calls that just doing a photo op. >> entire life is a photo op for the president. >> at minimum you show some compassion. >> will the political pressure get to him? >> see, i don't know how much political pressure there is because i don't think there's
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that many democrats criticizing him. i think that one democrat is brave because -- >> well, they're attacking him. >> most people are going to behind the scenes complain about it but not publicly say anything. >> why not even as congressman clair pointed out, if not even just go down to the air force base where the kids are being held? if you don't want to go to the border, go see the kids. >> he doesn't want the photo op. >> i don't think he wants to draw any more attention to this and him going there would draw more attention to it but i don't think that's the right way to handle it. i think that this is something -- if you want to say it's all the republicans' fault, i've sent this bill and they need to do something, why not go see the kids? that doesn't make sense. wouldn't you want to raise more attention to the children? >> this morning i read something that really broadens this out a little bit and, you know, we talk about national security and what this means. good experts, good people on both sides of the political aisle are coming together and saying, look.
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there's a concern that isis, that group rolling across iraq taking over the place may partner in some way with the drug cartels in mexico to gain entry into this country and what a perfect time for that to happen when we basically have our guard down so there's a huge question about how serious are you going to take this? not just with children, 52,000 since the month of october have come over unattended illegally into this country. forget about the burden that that puts on the country but what about the secondary burden which could become the forefront if we have isis or any other terrorist group saying that that permeated border would be a good place to be. >> rudy giuliani was with us today. as a reporter, doesn't your understanding enhance 10 fold? you get reactions and you come back with a different impression than you would think otherwise. when you're a governor and mayor, you li life experiences. what governor perry is saying, go there, check it out. it will change your mind about
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what you're seeing. >> well, when you talk about photo ops, you know, it just boggles the mind and i love what they're saying about presidents do this all the time. this particular president likes to make his own. he's really -- look at this. do you remember this? this is from a couple of years ago when they were at -- not a couple of years ago, not long ago at the funeral of nelson mandela. right? and you've got dignitaries in the picture so forget about this whole thing about i don't want a photo op. he doesn't want the photo op of what you described, children in detention. >> in deplorable conditions. >> at that point you own it. >> he doesn't want to. he's not prepared to do that. >> i don't know how he doesn't already own it. he does. he's the president. there's no getting around this. i do think the republicans need to take up legislation that he sent. there's no question. but he does own it. >> i have to jump in here with some breaking news. fox news alert right now. violence escalating in the middle east and this is just happened in the last few minutes. israeli defense forces are confirming four rockets have been fired at jerusalem. two of them intercepted by the
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iron dome so they were able to take two out. but that means two left to hit the ground or whatever else they might target. this is all happening just moments ago. bill, you've been to israel and i want to put this in the context of where we are historically. last few weeks, we have seen things escalate between hamas and the leaders of israel trying to protect themselves. >> here's the thing i know you need to understand about this conflict is that with every passing war or battle or conflict, however you categorize it, the rockets travel further. as long as the rockets travel further, you're going to penetrate deeper and deeper into israel. now they're hitting jerusalem. some of them syrian made rockets can even go further than jerusalem. that's never happened before. you could not reach tel aviv in the summer of 2006. now you can. now you can go beyond tel aviv and that's how the whole scenario changes. the thing to watch here is how far does netanyahu take this in the gaza? he's very concerned about the
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buildup of rockets that have gone through tunnels down there and whether or not this land incursion happens on behalf of the israeli military. >> this has escalated to the point where we've seen some talk of air defenses now with israel and what the air strike situation might look like. we'll continue to follow this very closely today. >> and remember, getting a few bucks for cutting the grass or doing some dishes as a kid, it seems nowadays, parents have taken that to an extreme. the shocking amount some moms and dads admit to giving their young children and if you're holding out for mr. right, you may need a reality check. why one relationship expert says you could be heading for a lifetime of loneliness and snicker bar. and right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. >> there's more? oh, yeah, baby. >> oh, yeah, baby. you're outnumbered. we go overtime here. this is a real job, hemmer. fox news.com/outnumbered.
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>> you recorded that, didn't you? >> this couch is rock to go that music. welcome back to "outnumbered." do you give your kids an alowance? how about $20 for getting an a? parents are giving their 5-year-old to 10-year-old children an average of $1,360 per year. most moms and dads cite monthly alowances as the main reason for giving their kids money. doling out an average of $113 a month. others cited rewards, gifts and kimberly, even bribes? >> i love it. >> do you use money to bribe your child? >> absolutely. and i pay them a lot for his teeth, too. >> he gets 50 cents? >> no. he gets 20 bucks. >> he has to grow more teeth.
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>> he's trying to get some out for the tooth fairy. do you know what happens when your tooth comes out on the corn on the cob and you're searching for a one or five? i'll i have is a 20 so now the price is set. >> i'm willing to bet, you guys know how good i am at math and how difficult it would be. 1360 a year, $28 a week, that's $4 a day. i don't know. is this really that much money? >> it's cab fare in new york. >> i'll bet parents are really not saying how much they're paying their kids. >> i'm a big fan for this. it gave me three things. a sense of pride of a job well done and gave me a sense of accountability and taught me how to find a job. i was so greedy that i would go around the house looking for stuff to do so mom and dad would have to pay me. i think i turned out okay. >> well, you know what? why not? >> i'll ask my fellow midwest n
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midwesterner here. growing up from illinois, i was not given an alowance. did you get one? >> maybe two bucks on a saturday but i had five kids in my family so we're all competing with each other. a lot of mouths to feed, a lot of competition. what i did was i just cut all the grass in the neighborhood and shovelled all the snow. mrs. curly gave me $15. sooner or later i had enough to not bug mom or dad. >> is this okay? granted, these parents are trying to do the right thing, you know? they're trying to give their child incentive to do their chores or get good grades but couldn't it devalue their sense of dollar? >> i don't think there's any problem with paying your children to do chores. i think it was like $5 a week probably. what would that be in constant dollars today since you're the math whiz? >> $17.36.
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>> 1970's, that would $5 be? >> how far does $5 go in fairbanks? she was living high on the hog in fairbanks. >> you can't even buy a dirty water dog on the corner of new york city for five bucks. >> a hot dog >> true confessions of a news anchor. two bucks. >> they must like you. >> what's interesting about this survey, i'm sure a lot of parents are sitting at home probably sympathizing with this. parents feel bad about giving their kids that much money. like harris, they say it's effective. >> i think so. don't want to give them too much. then their expectations are too high. speaking of expectations, do you find yourself ditching dates for tiny reasons? all the single ladies? you could be setting yourself up for a lifetime of loneliness. relationship experts say the reason why women have long lists of what they're looking for is because they expect more from relationships than men.
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she says, quote, women don't just want a boyfriend. we want a lover, a friend, a playmate, career adviser, handyman, accountant, a dishwasher and a shrink. that's an awful lot of skills to find in one person. kimberly? >> you haven't even seen my list. we don't have time. >> what's a deal break sner >> i think someone that doesn't have a sense of humor. i think that's a deal breaker. somebody who is not passionate about what they're doing. if it's a job that keeps them very busy, i admire that, admire a strong work ethic so that's fantastic. we're all going to be happy. >> do you think if you're too complicated, you can't find love? >> god, i hope not. that would be very bad for me. i think that -- i do think you can have too much of a list definitely. but i think it's interesting that they say only women are doing this.
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they say that men basically have hn attitude of i can't say what they said but essentially if she's hot, that's great. you're the man. are you looking for more than that? >> where is that dirty hot dog i was looking for? i think you're looking for happiness, you're looking for the ability to communicate. without that your relationship is not going to go anywhere. the door is wide open for endless possibilities. >> as i get older, my list has changed. >> longer or shorter? >> much shorter. i want somebody who is kind, that's probably the number one thing. i don't know if i would have said that in my 20's. somebody who is kind, who is family oriented, somebody who is funny. and what they do for a living or how much money they have or that kind of stuff doesn't -- >> what's that? >> you still want the masseuse or the handyman? >> the list, isn't it just as
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long for men? aren't they looking for a wife, mother, maid, cook, super model? >> i'm not denying that. no. that would make you happy, right? >> well, you know, you guys are just as picky and i agree, this author was saying it's a female thing. i beg to differ. >> in new york there's five girls to every one guy. >> you've noticed that, huh? >> the competition is out there so yeah. this isn't the place to throw it in the palm with the heavy fish pool. there's like this many guys. >> my mom and dad have been married 55. >> mine 52. i think 53 now. >> you'd better get that right. mom says be simple and that way you'll stay happy f. you're too complicated, nobody can make you happy >> she's really saying give in. >> i'll tell her you said that. transparency was the promise.
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when president obama campaigned for the white house. now journalist groups are calling him out. career women with husbands. some with kids are duking it out for a little title. mrs. america and the competition is fierce. >> mrs. >> coaching, makeup, tanning, teeth whitening, you name it. >> find the credit card. >> i know it costs my husband a little small house to compete at mrs. america.
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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." president obama getting slammed by journalists who say he's doing the opposite of what he promised during his campaign. remember this? >> i have a track record of transparency. i'll make our government open and transparent. >> we'll do it in a transparent way. >> i want accountability so the american people can be involved in their own government. let me say it as simple as i can. transparency and the rule of law will be the touch stones of this presidency. >> this is the most transparent administration in history. >> but now, 38 journalism groups led by the society of professional journalists sent the president a letter saying, you recently expressed concern that frustration in the country is breading cynicism about democratic government. you need look no further than your own administration for a major source of that
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frustration. politically driven suppression of news and information about federal agencies. the administration has dismissed similar charges in the past. wow. that's pretty harsh. >> pretty harsh. i watch o'reilly every night. he's banging on the journalists for not being on the stories. that's a majority when you count up everybody working in washington, d.c. i thought that was interesting and i thought the other story that came out with lisa myers, former investigative correspondent for nbc news, long time, big credibility, she is backed up cheryl atkinson's claim who left cbs just recently that the media is not pushing this administration the way they did the bush team. if you read this letter from the society of professional journalists, if you read it, they go back 15 or 20 years but they have strong and harsh criticism for this administration >> and cheryl atkinson in particular was focused on getting the truth in benghazi
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and we talked about it on the couch, how we spend millions of dollars to try to get the investigative truth out of that whole situation so not only are we talking about opaque with the administration and acquisitions of that but expensive to get to transparenc transparency. >> doesn't this seem like something they should have complained about sooner? the letter now finally comes. do you think they should have done this before? >> now they've got 38 journalism groups together on this, what i thought was interesting was not only did they go after the president for his centering of media coverage but they went on in the letter to say that at the same time that reporters have been cut off the administration's open doors, lobbyists and people with money. it was really a scathing letter and i would say that one an attack on the president by journalists is unprecedented for any white house. i don't know that it's going to enact change. >> for a white house, let's face it, the media has been pretty nice to. you would think that they would be working with them, right?
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why would you have to hold them so at bay? it would make sense if it was maybe george bush that the media didn't like. why does obama get to hold them at bay and not give them access? >> it's disturbing on a lot of levels. this was one of the things they campaigned on. they were going to do business and politics in d.c. in a far different way. they were going to be very transparent. there was going to be open access, they weren't going to be secretive and unfortunately, the facts and the time they've been there is not proved to be the case. we're seeing that now with the holding centers and the media being denied access. this is just another glaring example of how they play it their way on a different level. >> and saying transparency is a lot different than doing it. one thing that disturbs me about this letter, black balling reporters who are critical. you cannot allow that to happen in a functioning democracy if you expect for it to work.
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>> it all baits reporters. if they weren't looking forward before, they were going to look even harder. >> this treatment of the media by the white house could have a big impact on hillary clinton's potential run as well. >> yes. 2014 and 2016. let's see how that plays out given these concerns. okay. they're married. they have successful careers and some have kids but they're also vying to be the next mrs. america. a new reality series called the game of crowns follows woman in their 30's and 40's and the world of adult pageantry. the women admit to spending tens of thousands of dollars for the time consuming commitment. here's a clip. >> all the titles that i've held, one that's most dear to me is wife and mom. >> typical day in my life, something burning on the stove, i have something sticky in my hair, dog is barking, kids are screaming.
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>> many of the women say that pageants give them a moral boost. others say it's helped them through personal crisis. we have a couple of contenders for the crown on this couch. pageantry contestant number one, sandra. >> i love it. a lot of these women are attorneys, heads of companies, they have professional careers as you just saw. they're absolutely beautiful. some have inspiring stories like they dropped 70 pounds and they went on to show what they've done with themselves. i have nothing against this. apparently some vp spent $10,000 a pop and running in one of these pageants on the dresses and makeup and all of this stuff. i think good for them. >> go it builds self-esteem, do you have a problem and will you enter in >> they won't choose me. i love this idea. it talks about how valuable you can be and multi task as a parent, right? these are moms doing different things and looking good. i think that you can do more than one thing. you can multi task in terms of
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your value. society seems to be still very focused on what we look like and if you can preserve yourself for longer, that gives you self worth. look at all the botox and everything people are getting. if we can fight that culture by giving women self worth in a different way, i'm all for that. >> aren't they called beauty pageants? >> they are. >> how is it giving them better self worth in another area? >> it just gives he more preservation. >> i'm not a beauty pageant fan, by the way. i don't really -- i just hate them. i don't have a problem if that's an aspect, i guess, but i don't like women -- i feel like it's justifying women and putting more pressure on women about the way they look versus if it's going to be about something else. if it's going to be about, you know, being a wife and a mother or whatever. >> they're allowed to do it. they're allowed to do it. i'm not -- they're allowed to do it. i just don't feel like it's really that -- it doesn't feel that healthy to me for women. >> that's your perspective.
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>> my little nieces were put in -- in fact, my little niece was little miss alaska or whatever. i just feel like it puts too many emphasis on their looks versus all the other -- >> male opinion, please. >> if i had a mrs. hemmer, would you want her to enter? >> i have nothing to say on this. i can't win on this topic. there's no way. >> why? >> i have one question. time out. with all due respect with the opinions, if you're a mrs., where do you have the time to do all of this, right? >> that's none of your business. >> exactly. but you say you work, right? you're a mom and you're doing -- >> give me a break. he has to be kidding. you just turned into matt lauer. >> this is like a giant night out for women. it's like a giant girls in vegas. >> you have a valid point. >> i'm saying if women choose to do that on their own, some of their kids are cheering for them
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in the audience. i just don't see anything wrong with it. >> anything that women do is okay as long as people are cheering for it? >> no. i'm not going to criticize somebody if they want to do it. >> how you don't agree doing this, it's like i'm turning into a bad person for a different opinion. >> you say, oh, my gosh. you're c.e.o., how do you find the time to do everything? how do you find the time to be in pageants? >> like i said, can't win. and that's why they call it "outnumbered." >> let me tell you something. i'm going to go right out after the show and become a mrs., maybe the hot dog guy down the street and i can enter. i can do it right in this dress. let's do it. police say she injected -- i can't believe this story. i was reading about it this morning. a married google executive with heroin and watched him die. the video they say proves it as they investigate whether this
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alleged high priced call girl has even more victims. plus newly revealed emails from former i.r.s. official lois lerner. a top republican believes they may be the smoking gun. right after the show, head to the web for "outnumbered overtime." >> there's more? wait a minute. you told me an hour. >> we have some snacks in the greenroom for you. just saying. send us your questions or comments, tell us what topics you want to hear more about. >> we are there. >> he's sweating. ugh. heartburn.
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save and print some emails, just not all of them. plus a development that may be more disturbing. new documents showing lerner warned her staff to be careful about what they said in their emails and asked whether data in their instant messaging system was stored automatically. oversight chair saying these emails proved lerner deliberately tried to hide information. >> she's cautioning people not to say things on email and being delighted to find out that the local instant check that they have, this microsoft product, wasn't tracking what they said so that they could do this instant messaging back and forth at the i.r.s. without any audit trip. >> when she found out, lois lerner found out, when the response was no, that the instant messaging isn't archived the way it should be, she said perfect. >> i don't know if they're going to get to the bottom of this.
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i'm not saying daryl isa is going to give up but i don't know if they're going to get to the bottom of this. two other things the journalists cited, two of the main four criteria, blocking requests to talk to specific staff and excessive delays on interview requests. that's something that isa has been banging on for two years now. >> and it just feels like the writing is on the wall here. what do you think? >> i don't know. i wish there was a way to get her -- you know, give her immunity or stop with this. it's so obvious. >> maybe they offered and she said no. >> stuff is being hidden and it keeps more and more evidence. i was trying to think about it. the truth is a lot of -- this is actually said more often than you would realize what she said. i remember when i worked in the clinton administration, being told the same thing. >> which is what? >> don't put anything in writing. don't pick up the phone. it wasn't that anybody was doing anything wrong. i think it's a political mentality.
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do you think -- do you know what i mean? >> this is the i.r.s. they expect every america pay. >> i was thinking back on it. why would we even have to -- why would that ever have been said? >> especially with this agency. >> i think it is politics as usual. i think that that is just the political mindset is always to be don't ever have any evidence of anything, even if you're not doing anything. so to me, it doesn't mean that -- that doesn't mean they were necessarily doing anything. >> they're not supposed to play and target political groups that have voiced freedom of expression and first amendment against the administration or against the policies. that is what is so troubling. >> they're supposed to be accountable. >> do you think they get to the bottom of this without a special prosecutor? >> i don't know if immunity would do it. you think would she take it? would she tell the truth?
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what you're saying about the journalism, this is what we call independently confirming facts, right? she doesn't want to go on record with whatever she knows but look at all the separate and independent fact gathering we're seeing now and evidence that perhaps something untoward, even criminal happen and perhaps this person was at the center of that criminality. right? i mean, i would have to say looking at the things that are stacking up, there's a 99% chance maybe they did something wrong. leave out the 1% because there could be the truth. >> the american people are drawing the same conclusion and that's why they continue to say they want answers, want to continue with this. doesn't it seem like it's going on the back burner a little bit? at least for now. >> i think they can. they're just hitting their head against the wall. what can they do? >> there's a crisis at the border and there's -- >> there's a lot going on. >> there's a benghazi investigation. >> and there's this. >> the list is long. where the israel defense forces say four rockets have been fired at jerusalem. we have the very latest and you
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>> more outnumbered in a momentment first let's go to jenna lee. >> next hour the bloodshed in the mideast kicking up a notch as hamas fires rockets deeper in israel and israel is gearing up for a possible ground invasion. first hand account why the israeli deputy defense minister coming up top of the hour. e.p.a. is flexing muscles claiming it has the authority to garnish wages of anyone accused of breaking rules. is this government overreach? can they just take your paycheck if they want to? the tale of the tape. police have video of an alleged high end hooker shooting a deadly dose of heroin into a google exec? legal panel takes it up a notch.
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big case all in california. >> bill hemmer just said, she said shooker. >> i did. the facts are the facts. >> save me. 11 minutes, sister. i may be outnumbered but now it's my turn with the story. you know when you're watching a sport on tv, it's inevitable when there's a break in the game, the camera ends up on an attractive woman in the stand. usually wearing something attractive. >> like that one. >> very little. >> am i right? there's a name for it. it's called the honey shot. pioneered by nfl director in the 1980's. now many are saying the honey shots objectify women and imply that only men like sports. disgust. >> honey shot like the money shot. in journalism we know that's the closeup that you sell the story on, right? so the money shot is the one that tells the whole story. >> keep going. >> honey shot to me is necessary to give the flavor of what's
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going on. >> great point. i agree >> what is your take? >> i used to be a sports caster. so i know what goes on. >> what goes on? >> the control room and the truck is often run by guys. >> like they wouldn't know like what a hot guy is, right? >> no. that's not what they're interested in. they get excited and they're boys, they're guys. what do you expect? >> listen. do we have the bikt of the girl who just got a l'oreal modelling contract because she was spotted at the -- >> is that her? >> no. she was spotted at the world cup. there's her. spotted at the world cup. she signed a contract and already modelling for them, selling them products. she has a great deal with them because she was spotted with them. >> what about courtney cox? now famous for "friends" and everything else. she climbed on the stage when
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springsteen and everybody got that honey shot of her. >> hemmer is a springsteen expert >> are you kidding? >> there's urban legend in chicago field. urban legend is that harry carey was during a cubs game, they were really bad then, worse than today, and they came back from a commercial break and there was an attractive woman in center field and the camera was on her and he said, what i want to do to be 29 and know what i know today. and so then harry's fans are like, you're the man. that's the legend. >> that's what it's all about. >> that's what made him famous? >> no. not really. >> hemmer has a lot of stories. >> i just made that up. >> courtney cox, that was plan snd >> sure. she tried out for the role. >> i feel like i'm living under a rock. >> bill, there are shots taken of men in the audience, in the stands or whatever you want to call it. case in point, you cover the
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"new york post" the other day. showed a gentleman suing a network because they portrayed him as he was saying -- >> they investigated that on is it legal. >> that man, by the way, does not have a contract with l'oreal. it's an age old question that is getting new attention. who talks more? need we ask? men or women? >> men. >> next. >> i'm good.
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♪ >> and all right, there's been a little discussion on the couch. do i talk a lot? >> uh-huh. >> and my mother said i was little. oh, my. >> you got three others competing. >> my mom said i talked so much when i was little i could make a preacher cuss. >> a blogger wrote men talk more than women. she's my favorite blogger now. she sees it in the work place and doctor's office and movies. bill hemmer style. big talker here. >> and it is a topic. >> discuss. >> are you still talking.
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>> we talk on the basketball court. we talk on the golf course. >> and our comments are breechlt we are kurt. we get to the point. >> hemmer, you are a big talker. just so you know. he is very sa vvy. >> you keep to talking when you find something to say. >> wow, here we go now. >> that is a history right here. >> that is. gotcha. kirsten? >> men or women? >> i think women probably are more commune cative. but i think men interrupt a lot rience. >> we are talking about this right now, right? >> this is a question. whether or not men talk more than women. >> i bet your co-host would say the same thing. nhemmer, shut up. that is enough of you, kid.
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>> and he's pretty chatty in a depend way. >> you are entertaining. >> and you tell a lot of stories and long jokes and women get right to it. >> you are not too chatty. >> i am not. people are like, you are like a guy. >> you know, we have that joke on the show. outnumber. right. >> and they told me, she makes me an effort to call and i will do all of the talking. >> i will crawl back out. >> oh, no. >> and no. thanks. >> i talk too much today. >> and bill hemmer, the day you and i get out on the golf course and kimberly, too there is no talking when i play golf. >> we have loved having you here. we have to wrap it up.
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