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the factor. want a positive word, there it is. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i'm bill o'reilly please always remember the spin stops here. we're looking out for you. breaking tonight one terror group with it's sights on america gets it's hands on nuclear materials while another tries to raise it's stakes in a war with a key u.s. ally. welcome to the kelly file everyone. i'm megan kelly. let's start with iraq where the group that just created the world's first terrorist stakes now has its hands on american made armored vehicles. they stand around 10 feet tall and were built to with stand everything from ieds to land mines and more. the group now said to be targeting the u.s. homeland just got it's hands on nearly 90 pounds of nuclear material. the stuff of so-called dirty bombs. the pentagon trying to reassure
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people today by pointing out that the yuranium is not the weapon's grade version. but how do you feel? you don't care if they get uranium on you, do you? >> while the terror group hamas is telling civilians to ignore the advanced warnings that israel gives before they launch the air strikes which means they're ordering residents to die in order to further that group which we recognize as a terror organization. congressman peter king is the former chairman of the committee. he was briefed about the threat from the terror group in iraq and has been monitoring the events in israel. good to see you tonight. >> thank you. >> how concerned should we be now that isis has its hands on
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90 pounds of uranium. >> we should be very concerned. the fact that the government or administration is trying to pass this off as not being enriched or weapon's grade, the fact is it still could be used for a dirty bomb. the nypd set up to secure the city's program. you get uranium, you have radio active material and you encase it in conventional explosives and the blast would kill many people and the impact of the radiation will contaminate an area. you put that into downtown baghdad in a market area or bring it across the border into jordan and set it off, you'd have loss of life but the psychological effect and the contamination that would result from that radio active material would have a severe impact and for people that say it's not that significant, i wouldn't want it going off in my backyard, my neighborhood, many a department store in my district. i wouldn't want it going off where there's a large number of
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people gathered. this is very serious and very concerning. >> not to mention what they could do to the water supply using it as a potential contaminant should they get the opportunity. but the question is whether they would have the capability to do that. whether isis is a meaningful threat to us here in the homeland whether it has uranium or not? >> isis is a threat to us. in fact, three years ago when they called themselves al qaeda in iraq, three members were arrested attempting to attack fort knox in kentucky. they made it clear they want to attack the united states. so we've been very concerned about them coming here as far as explosive devices on planes, anyway they can get in here. we have to be very concerned. they're very lethal and very deadly and more fanatical than al qaeda. >> what should the obama administration be doing? obviously we have these advisors on the ground in iraq but now we've got a terror group that's so radical al qaeda wants
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nothing to do with it. and it's potential components of at least a dirty bomb if not a nuclear bomb. >> right. but not to relive the past but this wouldn't have happened if president obama hadn't pulled all of our troops out. it's not just iraq. it's syria and iraq. i believe we have to use arpaioer to at least blunt the isis attack now. the offensive. and i also believe that we should use special forces. they should be on the ground and not so much engaged in combat but being able to pick out targets and we should be able to train and work with our allies in the region but this has to get top, top priority. this is a major threat to us. >> congressman peter king thank you for being here. >> megan, thank you. in a case of awful timing as we watch this growing threat to our national security we today heard the department of defense announce that thousands of u.s. soldiers are being let go. some of them literally getting pink slips on the battlefield.
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a fox news contributor and veteran of the iraq and afghanistan wars and ceo of concerned veterans for america. that's because of budget cuts. we're pink slipping our military as the president asks congress for $3.5 billion to help illegal immigrant who is have crossed our southern border with no concern for our lot. so he wants $3 billion for them but he can't find the funding for our military as we see a terror group with it's hands on uranium and there's a war going on in israel which we'll get to next. >> yeah, let's get this right. islamists are on the march. we're spending $4 billion on the border that we have said we otherwise don't have for defense. and we're sending pink slips specifically to captains, captains and majors. guys and gals that entered the military to fight the islamists fighting in iraq and afghanistan today. we're sending pink slips to guys on the battlefield right now telling them we no longer need your services but we're willing
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to spend $4 billion on illegals on the border. that $4 billion could pay for 40,000 of the 80,000 troops we're reducing. this is a matter of priorities and holding our hands over our eyes and wish agoway an enemy and cutting the very troops that would be the lynch pin of fighting them if and when we need them. >> when the budget cuts were approved and they were approved on a bipartisan basis, it must be said. things weren't quite -- they didn't look quite the same as they do right now in the middle ea east. >> they didn't look the same. i think it was willful blindness to think we wouldn't have light of the policy this administration pursued. many on the right recognized when you reduce your military this deeply, this dramatically and in such a way, you're going to see just chops to very capable aspects of that and it rolls downhill. we don't make tough decisions about our higher officer core.
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it turns out to be captains lieutenants, sergeants who take the brunt of these cuts. but those happen to be the brains and the cuts of this generations fight against folks like isis. we need that expertise again and we're stripping it out of our military in favor of dependency programs and money to the border and transforming america. it's a shame. >> pete hegseth, thank you. >> thank you. >> back in israel the threat of death is reigning from the sky tonight in a country where they have been at war now for days. >> that's from gaza. guys we need to go undercover. >> we told the terror group hamas fired nearly 100 rockets into israel today. 3.5 million israelis almost half the country now living under the constant threat of rocket
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attacks and praying that israel's iron dome defense system can keep them safe. so where is america? well, president obama has been fund-raising. he has been playing pool. he has been railing on republicans here at home. indeed, it was not until news spread today that leaders from around the globe, including the uk prime minister, angela merkel of germany and others had reached out to prime minister benjamin netanyahu and finally late today our president called the israeli leader. one of our closest allies. ben, it was -- we had five, i mean, moon from the un called benjamin netanyahu before we did. this hit the news. the white house was asked about it repeatedly. has he called netanyahu. day after day it was no and with five world leaders, france beat us to it. france. finally he calls them. what kind of message does that
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send? >> it's not just the message that it sent by not calling. when he finally did call today they released the transcript and the transcript had president obama saying that they would prefer if they rachet this down and take down the risk escalation of it. asking a state that's under constant rocket attack to rachet down targeting of the rockets. israel is literally warning the people standing around the rockets to get out and hamas is telling people to stay around the rockets. women and children. how can you tell people to stop defending themselves. this is what the obama administration effectively is doing and has been doing for a long time creating daylight between the united states and really it's only ally in the middle east at this point. >> how specifically has the president done that in your view. >> the president had an opportunity at the beginning of last month, the hamas created a union government.
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palestinian authority was the moderate and hamas was the terrorist. they created a union government. 88 senators wrote a letter to the president saying you need to make u.s. aid to the palestinian authority. contingent on the break up of the unity government. president obama refused to do it. >> because we're funding a terror group. if we didn't do then we're basically funding a terror group, hamas. >> we are. we are currently funding a terror group because that is a unit government. this is a terror group recognized by the state department. they're working with the palestinian authority. they're currently firing rockets at israel and our taxpayer dollars are going to that government. >> specifically this war we're est reporting isel and we stand that the likelihood of ground troops invading the palestinian territory now, up to 40,000 they're talking about israeli soldiers could be imminent. it could be imminent. all hell could be breaking loose there tonight and if israel is
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in a full blown war tonight with palestine and hamas united states interests are directly implicated. the catalysts they say for this latest terrible fighting was the murder of those three israeli students who were kidnapped and murdered and what did we do or say about that? was there anything we could have done to try to stop this from escalating? >> absolutely. the same thing we could have done when they formed the unity government. the three jewish boys including an american citizen were kidnapped. the obama administration t state department condemned it but didn't threaten to with draw aid. for three weeks the president of the united states himself said absolutely nothing and then finally when he did say something he said that israel should act with restraint with regards to the people. this is an anti-israel administration. it's the first administration in american history that was anti-israel. there can be no question of the daylight that's been created and
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the enemies of the united states. >> that iron dome system was largely funded in part by the united states. hundreds of millions of dollars under president obama. >> well, the president of the united states still is going to sign over money to israel because it's politically unpalatable to not do so but that doesn't mean the president can't undermine israel's ability to take out the people going after it. that's what israel needs to do. iron dome cannot defend israel. it can only stop a certain number of rockets coming in. it can't stop all of them. we are seeing hundreds of rockets hit israel and a small percentage of those being shot down by iron dome. it's only a matter of time until one hits an israeli population center and everybody knows it. >> it's incredible to think of the millions of israelis in basements and bunkers right now worrying about getting bombed to death. ben, thank you. >> well, we also have new details tonight about a key investigator in the irs
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targeting scandal and why some are wondering if she is even conducting an investigation at all. andy mccarthy is next. plus fall out from last week's supreme court ruling in the hobby lobby case and where democrats are going with the messaging on that. >> that court decision was a frightening one that five men should get down to the specifics of whether a woman should use a diaphragm and pay for it herself or her boss. at humana, we believe if healthcare changes, if it becomes simpler... if frustration and paperwork decrease... if grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home... the gap begins to close. so let's simplify things. let's close the gap between people and care. ♪
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well, new fall out tonight in the irs targeting scandal. as questions mount about the woman leading the justice department and fbi's investigation into this matter. not only did she donate to the obama campaign. i'm sure there's no conflict of interest there but it turns out the that neither she or her team members even bothered to speak to the irs chief while conducting the doj's so-called investigation. a former prosecutor and now national review contributing editor. this was unearthed at a hearing yesterday and had jim jordan confused. how it could be that they're not bothering to talk to the irs chief about their administration which leads them to wonder whether there is an investigation. >> we heard they're not talking to the witnesses either. they were shamed into speaking to at least some of them. i know she still complains that
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many of the people she is representing haven't been spoken to. >> it feels like a sham. it looks like a sham. the rules are designed to make sure it doesn't look like a sham. they're supposed to avoid the appearance of impropriety. the appearance of it in the administration of justice. and frankly if they were trying to do the president a solid and then trying to doer rick holder a solid and everyone else in the administration, they ought to get somebody who could at least be sold to the public as reasonably independent and someone that had integrity. >> so that discovery about her not talking to the irs chief is one of the things now leading to a renewed call for a special prosecutor in this case. the other thing is lois leaw le mising e-mails and there's an instant messaging system we didn't know about before on which they have been
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communicating and they're not discoverable. we cannot see them. congress cannot see them and the irs with lois lerner was overjoyed to hear about that. that's leading to calls for a special prosecutor. first let me ask you on your take on what we heard today from a judge on whether the irs is going to have to prove that it can't produce lois lerner's communication. >> that litigation is the only way we'll get to the bottom of this until you have a different justice department than the one we have now. so a plaud the judge for what he did today. >> he wants them to say underoath what he did to recover them. >> right. i expect they'll have to file affidavits underoath. it will be interesting to see what they say but a judge actually can coerce them into doing things they don't want in a way that congress can't. >> okay. so now on that point, many people have said, look, this is reaching critical mass. you cannot trust the irs. you cannot trust the people investigating the irs.
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we need a special prosecutor who we can trust. you say no we don't. >> i'm stunned megan that they haven't appointed a special prosecutor yet. >> the obama administration? >> yes. >> why? >> they would appoint a reliable lawyer. they're not going to appoint, pick your lawyer, right? they would appoint somebody that's reasonably controllable. there is no independent council. in our system, a council would have to appoint to the president. >> otherwise it's a violation of the constitution. >> you appoint a special council and all the witnesses say we can't on advice of council cooperate with congress and supply them with documents. this is now a serious criminal investigation and we're going to cooperate with the investigation. >> soerge clams up. >> right, the administration, the special council then extends the investigation for a length of time. there's no stories about it.
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so the thing goes dark. we can't even keep one the scandals they roll out now but this would be a situation where you have no drip, drip, drip of information anymore. >> what would be the solution in your view? if we can't trust the investigator, if we shouldn't have a special prosecutor, leave it in the hands of congress. >> i shouldn't have to put out information. >> you like the track pursuing right now through congress and the courts. >> i think at the end what happeneds is president obama pardons everyone on the way out the door. >> andrew mccarthy.
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now to a follow up. in the case of the call girl charged in the drug overdose death of a google executive. we're now learning that authorities are investigating her possible role in another death on the other side of the country. more from our west coast newsroom on, what's her name again? what? >> alex tickleman. the second death she is being investigated for involves a boyfriend in georgia.
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53-year-old dean was a night club owner and lead singer in a fetish band. he died of a heroin overdose back in september and in that case she told police she tried to revive him for about five minutes before finally calling 911. but police reports show the couple had a volatile relationship and now investigators are taking a much closer look at the circumstances surrounding his death and how it relates to the death of the google executive. listen. >> the second case shows a knowledge or predisposition or previous behavior that is consistent with this. she has done this before. she know what is the potential results are. >> before former google executive died he googled how to defend yourself after giving someone heroin. they had an on going call girl relationship. in november she visited him on his yacht in santa cruz.
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she was mixing and injecting him with heroin and instead of stepping tickleman steps over his body to clean up the scene, finishes a glass of wine and flees. police use the fingerprints on the wine glass to identify her and use her tattoos to i.d. her on the video. they lured her back by posing as a client willing to pay $1,000 for sex. when she was busted she again was carrying more heroin and it turns out megan that she had more clients in the silicon valley, the home of 50 billionaires and tens of thousands of millionaires. >> she is a charmer. trace, thank you. >> sure. >> well, former house speaker nancy pelosi had a lot to say about the supreme court ruling in the hobby lobby case and up next i'll have a whole lot to say about what she said. also, buzz aldrin shares
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are legal or not. that court decision was a frightening one that five men should get down to the specifics of whether a woman should pay for it herself or her boss. it's not her boss's business. >> nancy pelosi either doesn't know what she is talking about or is intentionally misleading you. first of all t gender of the justices in the hobby lobby majority is irrelevant. that's an intent to stoke resentment. when rowe versus wade was decided it was all men in the majority. does she think those justices were ill equipped to fairly decide that case or is it only when a judge disagrees with mrs. pelosi that his gender is an issue. if speaker john boehner made a similar comment about the female justices she would be crying sexism and that's what she is guilty of here. more over the five men did not, i repeat, did not determine what
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contraceptions are legal nor they did get down to the specifics of whether a woman should use a diaphragm. what a gross misrepresentation. news flash, all birth control legal before this decision remains legal today. the high court simply found that a religious freedom law which was cosponsored by none other than, wait for it, nancy pelosi, sometimes protects corporations from being forced to violate their religious believes. she cosponsored a law that gave them the right. neither the high court or hobby lobby took exception with them mandating that companies cover birth control but they said hobby lobby had the right to object to covering four terms of birth control that terminate a fertilized egg which some believe is abortion. no one ruled the contraceptives were illegal and the diaphragm
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was never even discussed. it wasn't one of the birth control forms at issue which she should know since she promised us that after obamacare was passed am some point, we'd know what was in it. brent, so i have seen the media rush to clarify mrs. pelosi's misleading remarks. oh, no, actually i have seen none of that except on fox news. >> yeah, i really don't know why you had me on tonight. you pretty much said everything. i can't say it better than you just put it. let's try to understand what is going on here. this is -- everything nancy pelosi said was a flat out unambiguous deliberate lie. she flat out lied. harry reid, flat out lied when he said the same thing. because they can't tell the
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truth. the truth, if they were going to be objective would be this. we believe that our demand that you fund this trumps your objection based on a moral concern that you believe it's murder. they can't say that because the whole country would see what they're saying. >> let me explain, the harry reid comment, he cast the supreme court decision as one of five white men taking control of women's lives. that's what he says. but the reason i -- my analysis that i just provided is as a lawyer. i practiced law for nine years and i regularly do legal analysis for the channel. that's my legal analysis of her bogus claim. it's completely untrue. but the reason i wanted to talk to you brent is when you have somebody in such a powerful position as nancy pelosi in a position to influence so many people on such a platform come out and tell falsehoods there should be fact checking. where's the mainstream media
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calling her to account? >> where does she say this? she said this at a press briefing. for the love of god. she said it to them. they're the ones who were there covering it for her. you know, you can say, okay, the left is playing their normal class warfare race baiting war on women games. okay. i get that. where are the media covering this? when you decide you're not going -- by the way, nobody covered it tonight. when you decide you're not going to cover it then megan you're aiding and abedding in a lie. in a national lie. >> they don't care. >> to the american people. >> they don't care. why? because what she is saying confirms their pre-existing belief which is the supreme court is about these evil conservative men that want to interfere with women's bodies? >> actually megan i think they do care. i think that they are as radical as the radical left is on
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abortion. abortion is the holy grail. terrible metaphor. but it is the holy grail for the radical left. i do believe that so many in the press are vested in this. they support this. >> the hypocrisy on the attack of the gender of the justices as well. as if only men could rule against -- you know, any man on that supreme court is going to rule against women and when they do it is because of their gender. meanwhile there was a male justice in the hobby lobby case, steven briar was not with the majority. can you imagine if they said, if speaker boehner made a derogatory comment like she just made? >> you're taking the words out of my mouth. if john boehner were to say, you know, she's a woman. what do you expect. >> what do you expect? >> do you think the news media would cover this? they'd be all over it.
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>> brent, good to see you. >> thank you, megan. >> by the way, an interesting thing we discovered in researching the segment. only 1% of american women use the diaphragm. we've had several interesting birth control discussions this weekend haven't we? moving on, president obama last night blamed the border crisis first on politics and second on republicans. we'll show you where that went, next. >> this is a problem of the president's own making. he has been president for five and a half years. when is he going to take responsibility for something.
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aid. >> that was then senator barrack obama in 2008 during a campaign rally in new orleans harshly criticizing president george w. bush for simply flying over the hurricane katrina damage instead of actually going to the site on the ground. but now the southern border is being overwhelmed with thousands, tens of thousands of unaccompanied illegal immigrant children flooding into the united states and leaders from both parties have been calling from president obama to go to the border and see what is happening in what the white house itself has described as an emergency and crisis and last night the president had this to say. >> this isn't theater. this is a problem. i'm not interested in photo ops. i'm interested in solving a problem. and those that say i should visit the border, when you ask
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them what should we be doing, they're giving us suggestions that are emotions bodied in legislation that i already sent to congress. >> well, that comment set the internet on fire because it's no secret this president does like to have his picture taken. here's a few examples we found. stupid. random photos of him. our digital politics editor. those are random photos of the president but the point we're trying to take is he does like photo ops. remember him in front of the doctors with the white coats on and so on. him in front of college students. he loves stage craft. it's only when the stage craft doesn't necessarily play to the narrative he's trying to push that he apparently objects to the photo op. >> and part of his thing has
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been shaming the press. for you to be doing that and asking about these things, human lives are saying it's serious and not theater. well, what would it have been for george w. bush to have arrived at the moment that then senator obama said he should have arrived. of course it's theater but theater sometimes is important. sometimes that's how they call attention to things. sometimes that's how presidents reassure the people that are by the way quite uncertain about how all of this is going to play out. how it's going to effect their communities and how it's going to be handled. sometimes it's important they reassure people. >> it would have been such a different scenario if you had president reagan with the megaphone from the helicopter over the berlin wall. sometimes it helps to get down there and make your point from the site. >> you have to get down to be down and i think the reality for this president is because people told him that he should do it, he didn't want to do it.
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he refused to do it. >> so you're suggesting he didn't want to do it because it's like if my son is going to clean up the toy room but then i tell him to clean the toy room he doesn't want to do it anymore but last night you had a different theory which i raised on the air. i thought it was very interesting. it's basically that it calls more attention to a bad political mess that he's been accused of creating. >> i don't think they're mutually exclusive. his willingness to go to the border is rooted in not wanting to give his rival what is they want but i think the reason they got into this debacle and the reason they're here is political stupidity. they couldn't think their way out of a paper bag on this and saying we can't be raising money and hanging out with the guy in the rubber horse head mask is in colorado. >> explain that reference. >> everybody saw horse boy. the president was after the beers or before the beers or whatever n whatever stage of
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that photo op about the bear is loose, the president is having a great time on the campaign trail. >> out of washington. >> out of the bubble and cut loose and doing whatever he wants which included other than being offered pot by a guy in a bar it also included shaking hands and greeting a guy in a rubber horse head. >> who hasn't had that experience in his defense. >> every day right here in washington. >> chris, thank you. >> you bet. >> well, the president not only said he wasn't engaging in photo ops, but he also suggested the border crisis was the fault of republicans that would not pass immigration reform. speaker boehner responded to that this morning. >> this is a problem of the president's own making. he has been president for 5.5 years. when is he going to take responsibility for something? >> the campaign veteran and fox news contributor. how about that question, joe? >> well, i mean, that's one of the reasons i don't think the president went down to the border is because that question -- all these questions
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and attacks from political attac attacks, he views them as political attacks is going to come from the republicans whether he went or not. if he does go, you saw that, how could you look at what's going on down there and still not do what we want you to do? they're not going to do what he wants them to do. >> i get that. but then why is he getting up there trying to tell us he doesn't enjoy the photo op? which let's face it joe, oh, yes he does. we just put up him with the doctors and the -- that's such bull. that's just bull. any objective observer will tell you that is bull. >> i'm not going to argue with you about that. of course they enjoy a photo op. >> why does barrack obama tell us that's the reason he's not going there? why does nancy pelosi tell us we can no longer use the diaphragm
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because of hobby lobby? >> he doesn't believe the photo op of standing on the border is going to change any of the politics that have anything to do with it. >> or will it change it for the negative on his side. >> it's an image that will be there for a long time and puts spotlight on a problem that he has. unless congress gives him the $3.7 billion or changes the 2008 law he's not going to be able to do a lot about it no matter how many times the republicans say secure the border. >> what about the mega phone chris was talking about? it's not just to call attention to the world the fact that we've got these kids. the point is to go down there and say with all due respect, you're not actually welcome. hey, you parents shipping your kids up here with drug dealers and criminals, stop doing that. >> first of all, that's not the
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message that i don't think this country wants to send. there's a lot of people on the right that want to send that message. >> send your kids up with here drug dealers and criminals that are going to endanger them. >> no, we did it for a reason because the kind of country we are is when kids are being sex trafficked or facing violence. >> of course. but the way these kids are shipped up here and dropped off in great peril has got to stop. >> that's true too but you need the $3.7 billion to go through the process. >> why didn't he call benjamin netanyahu earlier and call more attention to the crisis. >> my biggest complaint about this administration and the president is exactly that. bill clinton could explain anything and this administration seems not to explain or have a
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conversation about anything. i think the american people would be better if he explained his positions and he doesn't do it. i don't know the answer to that. that's a very valid complaint. >> he does it in certain circumstances. like the doctors, you know, but in a situation like this that's a little more political i don't know. great to see you. >> good to see you megan. >> a number of news organizations are under fire for suggesting that president obama did in fact go to the border. when he did not. during the last commercial break i asked brent bozell about that. we have the full story and his response and posted it on facebook.com/megyn kelly. plus buzz aldrin shares shocking details about what he saw during the moon landing mission back in 1969. here's a little clue.
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he was the second man to ever walk the moon. a member of the crew that helped plant the u.s. flag on the lunar surface. now 45 years later former astronaut buzz aldrin is sharing new details about a possible ufo sighting during the landing mission. >> the astronauts were three days into their flight to the moon when they asked mission control a simple question that nobody picked up on. even mission control.
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listen. >> do you have any idea where the s-ivb is with respect to us? >> stand by. >> the s-4 b is the final stage of the rocket that separated from the capsule two days earlier. the reason the astronauts wanted it's location is because buzz aldrin saw a light outside of the window move ago long side the capsule. here's what he told discovery channel in 2005. >> there is something out there that was close enough to be observed and what could it be? >> that's what ufo enthusiasts wondered, what could it be and why did buzz aldrin wait 36 years to reveal he saw something? but it gets better because when the astronauts asked where that portion of the rocket was mission control answered that it was more than 6,000 miles away. so it was not lingering outside
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the capsule's window. now buzz aldrin tells the website he doesn't believe a ufo was trailing apollo 11. he thinks it was a panel still attached to the capsule. saying i feel absolutely convinced that we were looking at the sun reflected off one of those panels. which one? i don't know. so technically the definition could be unidentified. but he does believe there is life out there somewhere and maybe he is just not telling us the whole story. >> very interesting. thank you. well, just ahead a special throw back thursday moment involving my hair. plus, coming up on hannity. >> first of all, these boats fly. >> what have you got? >> we got triple 300. >> yeah, you got 900 horsepower. it will come up and operate into 12 inches of water. that's why this becomes a very,
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with brown hair. follow me on twitter as well. let me know what you think of tonight's show. thanks for watching everybody. i'm megyn kelly. this is the kelly files. welcome to hannity and tonight we're coming to you from texas. now the immigration crisis in this country is literally at a tipping point and that's exactly why we have now travelled to one of the hotspots on the southern border to see firsthand just how badly things are unralphing. earlier today texas governor rick perry gave me a tour of the border. i joined the governor for a private briefing from the texas department of public safety. here's an exclusive look. >> welcome to the front line of the unsecured border.