you can go to greta wire.com and of course right here on the record. fo good night. >> corrupt the sanctity of fair news coverage. >> corrupted fair news coverage? what is fair? scare mongers? >> predators. >> super predators. >> they made it up. >> made it up? do we do that? >> we are running out of places to dump. >> if you say something three times out loud people take it as fact. >> is the opinion okay? >> i don't tell you how i like them or not. >> people said my opinions were not right with a younger me. >> what will they tell me tonight? >> everybody else in business. >> sometimes the news media gets it so wrong it is hard to tell

what is real or fake. >> indeed that is real. >> fortunately now there are alternatives to traditional movies. ♪ god bless the government >> big government big news. that's our show tonight. >> and now john stossel. >> breaking news. sometimes i think there should be a question mark after that word. because a lot of what the mainstream media reports is just nonsense. scare stories, stories that miss the point. the news is broken. i began as a consumer reporter. i exposed fraud. half the time i paid two or 10 or $15 and got back nothing. i wasn't neutral. i wanted to punish the people but i couldn't jail or fine them

all all i could do is embarrass them. i tried very hard to do that. >> you are a crook. >> the way you are putting it, it is true. it does appear to be so. >> i clearly had a point of view. was that wrong? didn't seem wrong to me. i never went to journalism school. i never heard all of the pompous lectures on objectivity, journalistic practice. weirdly since consumer reporting was brand new media critics left me alone. in fact they cheered me on. called my work a public service. they gave me 19 of these emmy awards because of my obviously agenda, which was lots of businesses are bad, government must watch them and regulate them. i wised up. i learned businesses usually receiv succeeded by serving business well and government hurts consumers by limiting choice and raising prices. but strangely, when i implied my same confrontational approach to

government regulators my abc news suddenly had objection. you can't say that. once i became a sceptic i got my stories on abc news. to be fair i often one but over time less and less often. i left abc and came here where i am free to report on what i think is important. abc's executive on the admit they have any bias nor nbc or cbs or npr. >> pbs news correspondent cheryl adkinson. >> cheryl adkinson was allowed to criticize the government. >> cheryl adkinson has the latest>>. she reported on benghazi. >> somebody decided to guide the american public viewpoint toward that u tube video. >> thshe said they didn't tell e truth about the obamacare web site. >> 9 # out of 10 people were allowed to create an account. i tried three times and the

system would not allow me to do it. >> cbs let her do those reports f for a while but eventually something changed. why did she leave cbs? >> thanks for having me. >> what happened? >> the newer management didn't want the government. watchdog stories in general. there were times they would let us do those and encounsel raj us to do them and the light switch went off they wouldn't want us to. the last couple years it was harder to get stories not just about government but any powers that be. it was clear cbs, new york investiga investigative romper left before i did. >> you had stories killed or they didn't want that any more. they would never say to you we

don't want to criticize our president? >> absolutely not. things like that are never said. i guess there's more of a significant gnat set. there wasn't time in the braurd cast. we have to drop something. your story will have to wait. they questioned the stories to death even though they are legally approved and perfectly solid. they kept questioning them and turning them over. they died a death of a thousand cuts. >> that's what happened to me at abc. i had well rated stories on school of choice and government. healthcare. there was a school of choice movement my boss said you are doing the predictable libertarian stuff. nobody wants to watch that. but they rated well. >> during seek station they followed the money stories which we had done for years primarily under president bush not because of him. the bureaucracies switched from

administration to administration. i argued they were more relevant than ever. we were talking about how money is spent and wasted and abused by the millions and billions at a time when the government is spending more than it takes in. talking about frustrations. >> you tried to do one on green energy waste. >> it began very popular. i did a very well received story for cbs. at one point they said they would love to have as many as they could. >> not just solyndra beacon power had 27 million despite having a terrible credit rating. >> there were so many of them. after the first report when they said give us more i wouldn'table to do another one. there was a lot of push back from the administration which got surrogates and bloggers

involved writing things about controversializing the report g reporting. that takes on a life of its own. >> you weren't fired you got frustrated and left. >> i would find at cbs they wouldn't like a story that's fine. they don't want all stories. you can't self publish something. these were important stories with whistleblowers going on a limb sometimes to expose something i felt they deserved exposure. >> thank you cheryl atkisson. >> do reporters spin the news? do news reporters push the stories and they don't oppose the liberal line? >> america's most respected media reporter. many years at the "washington post". is there a left wing bias in most nemedia? >> there is no doubt in my mind

most supporters are on social issues abortion, gay marriage, you name it. in politics maybe so but i think it effects their reporting less on the social issues where i think the ways the stories are framed reflect a little liberal sensibility. >> you have to cover both sides but when it comes to gun control or government regulation of course there has to be regulation that's common sense. >> unlike the pundits who spew opinions for a living most who are working reporters and particular in in politics where you try to tell both sides they wouldn't be in that line of work. >> let's review the path. you covered me in cnn's reliable sources. i gave you credit even though you worked for the "washington post" and cnn and i consider you

a leftist. after i became a libertarian and abc aired my tv specials like are we scaring ourselves to death, yes was my answer and boys are girls are different which somehow is controversial. cnn invited me on. you gave moo he a hard time. you suggested it was hard to think business is evil. >> do you really believe that? is that into the a trifle over stated. are they that biased against business. >> isn't there an anti business bias? a >> maybe at times. i am sure you understand given your long experience, john -- i invited you on. i was the one who wanted to talk to john stossel. it was my job to push and prod and test your arguments. that's what i was doing. >> the title of the show is objectivity in journalism. does john stossel practice

either. you were really saying i wasn't objective or a journalist. >> i have to push back a little bit and ai am not a leftist or a right winger. i try to be down the mid em. you are free to try to critique whether that is true or not. i admired some of what you did when you evolved as a full throated libertarian. you questioned the notion should the fda always regulate. i thought you were a refreshing voice. you did it even for abc news even though it wasn't comfortable. right left, libertarian, vegetarian skeptical question that's my job. >> that was your job. you is did that more fair than your angry colleague that laid it on quick. >> aren't you a commentator. if you called yourself that couldn't you be just as effective and stop this ethical boundary problem that all of us seem to have with what you do?

>> all of you had an ethical boundary problem? >> not me. i don't think i used that kind of tone or language. >> she said all of us. that was her words. >> most obnoxious guy on the panel is bernard kale who objected to my saying this. >> i am saying nobody is perfectly objective. we all have opinions. >> there are degrees. you get good audiences. how abc practices this this is a triumph. >> he said somebody listening for the facts would have trouble. >> he defends himself. i agree with what you said there's no such thing as pure objectivity. we are all a product of our experiences and yes our biases. those on the reporting side try

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>> i used to read variety. this is how i used to find out what was going on in my business. now it is read on electronic media and tv news. now i don't subscribe to any of them. i just scan a web site called media eye it gives me something controversial or funny or stupid in today's media. plenty of that. the editor in chief is media ite is andrew corell.

thanks for saving me money. you recently wrote an article of what annoyed traditional journalists. there's no such thing as objective journalist. get over it. >> every journalist has a point of view. they don't check it immediately when they get in the newsroom door. they would be better served if they just admitted their opinions and be judged reporting based on the touchness of it, the accuracy, the fairness and not whether or not this person tends to have a point of view. >> reporters do pretend to have no point of view. even if you are covering the building burning down you are making choices as to what you mentioned and what you don't. >> selective bias and things that comfort your point of view. there are ways you may not think you are having bias. it is unavoidable. >> media points out who is left and who is right. full disclosure i should say you used to work for me. this may taint the interview. take it with a grain of salt.

>> for good reason. >> we will have to discuss that later. >> people say it was the golden age of media cronkright. >> we think about the golden days. >> you do. >> i wasn't around for it. there were two or three guys giving you the news and cronkright closed with that's the way it is. it is better to have choice. the market responded. there was no act of government or god. we got talk radio and there are problems with all of this but the market toon lully innovating and creating new nearby nishes. >> at my former network after abc had my reports that had an anti government point of view peter jennings stopped talking

to me. if he saw me in the hall he went like this. he was embarrassed i was on abc. jennings went on jorn stewart's show. >> the major press the media elite has a liberal slant. do you think that is an actual problem? >> when i started in this to go off and save the world and tell the truth was a liberal instinct. >> helping people is a liberal thing. >> a high and mighty attitude. if peter jennings admitted i am a liberal but i am going to try my hardest to report accurately everybody would have looked at that. >> the biggest pub bau was ted kopple hosted night line. in the "washington post" he wrote the success of fox and msnbc is sadness for me. not good for the republic. this is to journalism what bernie madoff was to investing. madoff told his customers what he wanted to hear by the time he told the truth their money was

gone. bill o'reilly interviewed kopple about his complaint. >> you think we have corrupted the saij cinctity of fair news coverage. >> i think it has made it difficult if not impossible for decent men and women on capitol hill to reach across the aisle and find compromise. >> some people may not think it is a bad thing. >> i don't think libertarians want them to be. >> we have differences. >> the problem is people think this create an echo chamber where you have lots of people reading the news they want to read. that is a problem. >> that is bernie madoff's point telling people what they want to hear. >> even in that you are getting good reporting. you can trust somebody like glen green wall who is an out-and-out libertarian makes his opinions known but his reporting won him a pulitzepulitzer.

>> now we have a number of media outlets that have a point of view and that is great. some opinionated people reluctant to admit they have a problem. here is rachel madoff denying they have an opinion. >> i am a romney fan. >> make your point. >> you are not for romney? >> leave me alone will romney care. all of you. listen, i cover these things not to tell you how i like them or not. >> that was a couple years ago. maybe she admits it now. >> no. >> she still has this i am reporting it as it is for you progressive folks who happen to be watching the show. on the show she presents it as straight talk. >> coming up, new ways to get around the main street media -- mainstream media. ♪

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libertarian. why are you one? >> it is looking at deficit, looking at spending. this doesn't work, this doesn't add up. >> it is something i started with. in college i got into reading economics, in business school and milton friedman and sort of roled from there. >> those are good choices if you have a rhaven't read the book i would suggest it. here is an example of the work one that got your name out there. ♪ >> during the 2008 democratic candidate agreed to take youtube

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>> what i was trying to do is high l highlight the difference between g government bureaucracy and the real world. in the real world you wouldn't see people dying on these wait lists and think the answer was to just fraudulently change the wait list because there's no consequence for doing so. more people get their news from john stewart than anyplace else.

how much do you trust news sources down at the bottom was john stewart. they watch it they like it they laugh but they don't trust the information. maybe they don't trust you eith either>> the davis show i like it it is funny. i wouldn't say it is my most trusted source of information. i was watching this week they were talking about the need to pay everybody a living wage. we realize they have unpaid internships at the tail low show. that's not a secret. i think people, at least the people that answer the poll recognize the inconsistency. >> finally obamacare wouldn't deliver all that was promised. remi inserted himself into a white house press conference. >> you said while the law was being debated if you like your

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to get it right. reporters are good at telling us what happened today. what building burned down what army invaded, what damage from a tornado. when it comes to news that happens slowly, the media off fen get it utterly wrong. i suspect they are getting it wrong about global warming friends and gun violence, any story related to science, statistics, basic math a threat to many reporters. will combine that with if it bleeds it leads you get a very misleading report. it is not that they do it on if you were pos. the people who bring the ideas are alarmed. we get alarmed. eager to rush that news to you. we know that the scarier more bizarre a story the more likely it is our bosses will give us air time or a front page slot,

with he will move on to the next scary story. >> now that the media organization called metro report reveals media hype of the past. >> in the united states 100,000 crack babies will be born. >> tiwana brawley case. raped 6 women. >> there are stories that are hard to believe they want to get rid of those. oo the executive producer of retro report is kierra. why did you do this? >> we like to think it is a counterbalances to the 24-hour news cycle. they have gotten so quick you never see the end of the story.

it is an on-line library of news events where you can come to our web site and interact with the stories and really learn about you get context and perspective for what happens then and what it means for us today. >> they looked at a stacary sto that frightened everyone called track babies. a oo a new drug crack cocaine was taking ore cities and has a devastating effect by newborns. >> soon after it was published we were getting calls from media all over the country and started hearing the term track babies. >> those grown addicted is up over 500 percent. >> these babies are going to overwhelm every social services segment. >> it has an under class of children unable to care for themselves. >> i had lots of people

interviewing me. >> he did. >> how many babies who had been exposed to crack did he study? >> only 23. it was a limited study. he saw the tremoring babies and high pitched cries he thought it was a sign of major damage it turned out to be nothing of the sort. these babies all developed in mostly normal ways. >> fetal alcohol syndrome seems to be much worse. alcohol is worse than crack. >> much worst. threw there were real implications to this. the story became a phenomenon and women were incarcerated for having cocaine in their bloodstream. babies were deemed unadoptable because they were crack babies. it shows the powers of the false narrative. >> they fit both the left and the right. the left is demonized cocaine and the left wanted more money

for social problems. >> the third is getting the story quickly. not waiting and saying here's a limited study let's wait 6 months to see if anything comes of it. also the myths persisted. this is 30 yaoer later. >> people think crack babies are permanently damaged. >> you are pretty early on about as the new research was coming did a terrific piece. >> thank you. i glad you mentioned that. i exposed this on one of my specials junk science. >> newspapers like rolling stone told us children addicted to crack lacked no other. >> they lacked part of the brain that made them human it would make them large. they were like no others. it was disgusting. thank goodness for clash coals the scientist who finally blue the whistle. >> that's what we are hopefully

building is a place to counteract those. >> there's a tidal wave of noouf nile violent crime over the horizon. >> super predators who are so repulsive, he can kill, rape, main without giving a second thought. >> this country went into a moral panic over super predators. >> i did sound an alarm and i did use rather strong language in terms of what might happen if we didn't react quickly. >> it was a throw away line. these kids are stone cold predators. >> spread tore, predator. >> one throw away line for an inmate and it became the theme. >> everything changed it exploded in a way. it is this really disturbing ter pieing word. super predator.

now we know none of that happened. now they are already starting to fall and continued to fall. >> other things you covered three mile island tewana brawley case, the preschool where the teachers were accused of molesting kids. no one believed kids would make stuff up but when kids keep questioning them they did. lives were wrecked. i am glad you setting the record straight. thank you. next, real or fake? our game show where we true to guess which bizarre media comments were real and which were made up by the staff over here? (vo) ours is a world of passengers. the red-eyes. (daughter) i'm really tired. (vo) the transfers. well, that's kid number three. (vo) the co-pilots. all sitting... ...trusting... ...waiting... ...for a safe arrival.

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>> now it is time to play real or fake. sometimes media people say things that are so bizarre if you didn't hear it you wouldn't believe somebody actually said it. kennedy is here to test me and kate rogers of foxbusiness.com and charles payne of making money with charles payne. which of us will be able to figure out the actually dick louse things that reporters said from stuff my staff made up. we invite you to play along at

home. kennedy, take it away. >> absolutely let's play america's favorite new game show, real or fake. let's go to number one. a host of a well-known tv show recently said, if you exclude murders, detroit actually hadz an extremely low crime rate. is that real or fake? >> all three of you got that one wrong. >> i would have said it. i have never been to report. >> talking about the irs scandal where the agency admitted to giving extra scrutiny to tea party or conservative groups one news anchor thhad a different take. in my mind the irs had been targeted in this investigation. is at that real or fake? that is in fact real. alex wagner said it. >> in my mind the irs, they were the ones that have been actually targeted in this whole investigation.

(laughter) >> they were targeted after they did a wrong thing. >> that is rich. real or fake here. number three. a tv show host talking about black friday shopping said in all seriousness, isn't it a little racist to call it black frida friday? is that real or fake? indeed that is real. this is everyone's favorite economist said it on "the view. >> isn't it racist to call it black friday? >> that is when traditionally businesses went from the red to the black. >> they get out of the red into the black. that's the first day of the year they start making money. number four, a young whipper snapper got his tv show described his influences during his first show he said quote i grew up watching the grace of tv news, murrow, cronkright, co bare, is that real or fake? >> i think i know who said it.

>> bernie barry.>> i grew up watching great tv news, murrow, cronkite, co bare. >> i ding that is owe ridiculous. >> i think kobare is great. sometimes. he cracks me up. >> a host of a talk show on another network broke out this argument while arguing in favor of strict gun control. every year we keep guns in the hands of civilians 50 million americans lose their lives. is that real or fake? >> that is a fact. -- fake, i am sorry. you did not get that one right. i think you are doing extremely well. >> let's keep moving on with quote number 6. hurricane sandy killed over 100 people. one tv host wanted to see the glass half full. saying quote i am so glad we had that storm it brought impossibilities for good politics. real or fake? >> meaning worrying about

climate change. >> i hope that's fake. >> john stossel that's why you are the master. that's a comment from chris matthews. >> i am so glad we had the storm last week. it was one of those things -- politically i should say. not in terms of hurting people. the storm brought in possibilities for good policies. >> now we can all go bankrupt to pretend to prevent lime mclimat change. >> real or fake. an anchor basically saying we are screwed. >> humans will be extinct in 200 years because of over population. is that real or fake? >> it is too stupid. it can't be real. it is too stupid. it is fake. did i say anything before the show? >> i am already lodging a protest. >> here is the final quote in real or fake. a tv host talking about global warming. this host said. i am running in the park on

saturday thinking this warm weather is great, but are we all going to die. is that real or fake? that is in fact real. that was mer death sri-- meredi viera. >> i can't figure this out. >> good news, bad news. john stossel, you are the winner. >> she is right. we all are going to die at some point. >> at some point we will. thank you very much. >> thank you kennedy, kate and charles. coming up, i will explain why the media got it so wrong. coming up, why the media gets it so wrong? i make a lot of purchases for my business. and i get a lot in return with ink plus from chase. like 50,000 bonus points when i spent $5,000 in the first 3 months after i opened my account. and i earn 5 times the rewards on internet,

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. john: i'm a oo i am john stossel. channel 2 news reporter. we are looking at the chemicals that were in the food. >> that hair was in style back then so was chemicals put in nude. activists awere certain it causd the cancer epidemic. still isn't a coonser -- cance epidemic. the media misled us so often people think it's a cancer epidemic. of course you would if you listen to me. here are some of the cancer scares i reported on and believed in.

of course i believed. so would you if you were a young reporter. scientists we interviewed were alarmed. they had data had a proved coffee caused pancreatic cancer and cell phones brain cancer. they were harder to interview. what do they gain by taking time from their own research to try to educate stupid reporters. if they were quoted they would make enemies. it is easier to avoid the media. so we talked to the activists and we trusted them. they were like us. they wore blue jeans and they wanted to protect people. there were some corporate scientists who were skeptical and we would interview them. they would be funded by business. they wore suits why would we trust them? they were boring. lawyers told them be careful talking to the media. plus a scientist saying, we don't really have good evidence that coffee causes cancer. it is just not as interesting as one saying coffee may kill you.

so i reported the scare. not just cancer scare, these others, too. if you hype things like that people pay attention to you. cbs even ran this john stossel consumer reporter commercial that made me look like a hero. >> john stossel he is a guardian angel or something. he comes on tv making great mistakes. >> that's me your guardian angel. your guardian angel is a free and open society one that allows the innovation that gives us longer lives and around the world has less than -- lifted a billion people out of poverty. covering things like that is a problem for reporters. they bring us toward government action. you are a reporter assigned to cover a disaster. you go to a new town after a tornado or flood. you record the damage but for the big picture where do you go

for someone official a police chief, a mayor, someone important. natural to turn to them but they have a bias solution. the information that implies the government answer. this is a bad cycle. one more reason to get it wrong. it happens slowly. the plane crashed the war that's easier. the reporter can see what he is reporting on. he knows where to go. compare that to science that lengthens lives or innovation that lifts people out of poverty. that happens constant lir all over the world. but i don't know where to point my camera. recently president obama said this. >> the world is less violent than it has ever it is healthier than it has ever been. it is more tolerant than it has ever been. >> he was mocked for saying that but the president was right. despite the violence in the

middle east the world today is less violent than it used to be. here's a graph of deaths from war. also people are healthier than ever and more tolerant. let's not underestimate that. life has improved for blacks, gays and women. check out this story, for and against wife beating. most of the women weather to beat your wife is the latest controversy. dr. waugh says beat her. it is well-known women love most the men who are cruel to them. today we consider that harmful but how would a reporter cover that change in attitude. maybe today in pittsburgh 6 people changed their opinion about wife beating. that's crazy. the reporter wouldn't know who they were. even if he did these gradual changes are not what people consider news. news is broken.

note juries because we are politically biased but because most good news and most important news happens slowly. that's our show. see you next we. tonight on huckabee. croisis on the board, the white house said border security is stronger than ever and patrol agents say they are overwhelmed. >> there is no way to keep up with the amount of people. >> and it is not just uncompanied children coming cross. >> you are not seeing the terrorist coming from the other country. >> the real story on who is coming to america. and rockets fired in israel and israel retaliates with air strikes. >> we will defend ourselves and we will win. >> how far will israel go to stop