glenn beck will be here. tunez37 in tomorrow night set your dvr. glenn beck will be here. wow. in the meantime facebook.com/megynkelly. did you feel mark hannah should have buttoned that last buttop- i'm megyn kelly. this is "the kelly file." we do.[a=ú a fox news alert, the in the southern border. in the past nine months alone the journey across the border and there appears to be no end  in sight. foxnews.com accompanied texas congressman gohmert on an exclusive tour of the rio grand valley.k/no it's heavily trafficked in people smuggling. they went inside an immigration detention center in texas. and in just a moment congressma÷ gohmert will join us with more on the recent search for illegals. first we turn to john roberts standing by in mission, texas, tonight with all the latest

details. john, what's going on? >> reporter: hey, sean. good to see you tonight.n=ád we did take an exclusive trip "x inside the border patrol detention facility. it's the very first time uu%5( television cameras have been allowed in. and what i found when i went [z÷ inside was about 460 illegal immigrants from central america. that's down from a peak of 1,500 just a few weeks ago. there has been some improvement there. but still very crowded. they were at capacity. there were a number of so-called family units, mothers with theiñ children or pregnant women, a lot of unaccompanied children $. and lots and lots of adult men. in fact, in one particular holding area we found about 80 men crammed into a 12 by 20 cell.lxks the reason why the numbers are down at that border patrol facility is because apprehensions are down. this migtáá(rá of good news in all of this, sean. the border patrol told me rather than capturing 1200 people every day they're now down to about 6700. it could be because there's éc$ó typically a seasonal dropoff inó

july when the heat really gets up.÷14#s it's about 100 degrees today. it could also be because the media coverage, the message gelting out to central america and many people deciding not to make the trip. but there is still a huge ru problem which we found out when we took an exclusive tour of tho border with congressman louis gohmert, republican from texas over the weekend.4[4 he is a fierce critic of the president's $3.7 billion emergency request to deal with the border. he says there's arxát(tq), [r-" much easier way to deal with that, and that is to simply send people who cross into this country illegally back home. he believes that would end this crisis very quickly and the border patrol union agrees. listen. >> once you start sending peopl back, the word's going to get out that the message is if you come you're going back and you're wasting your time. therefore it's happened before detention, mandatory removal, everything stops. y this country for a year or more

before they have a detention @r(t&háhp &hc% the families stay in here a little shorter time, maybe up to new legislation's bei:w introduced tomorrow from texas congressman henry and texas senator seek to reduce the amount of time unaccompanied children are in this country by months. and as well the department of homeland security is working to ease the backlog of families. what they're doing is building tension facilities to hold about 6300 of them. they believe, sean, that will allow them to end the practice of sending these family units far and wide across the country where they may just disappear. and of course when you look at all this there's a huge impact to the american taxpayer as well. the intradiction efforts, border security taking care of these illegal migrants, giving them medical care, social services, pote"eaáit)u)jq"ucation to the children of those who stay for a long time if not forever and then of course there are a lot of people who will not leavñ this country who will eventually take jobs that might otherwise, sean, have gone to americans.83ñ this is a big problem that long tentacles that will reach for years into the fabric of american society. >> john, a quick question, the 2008 law which you're referring

to, that was designed to stop the sex trafficking of young kids. that is an easy fix if in fact b the democrats would go along with the republicans.mkqc where these young kids, unaccompanied kids, are being sent to nebraska, california, illinois, new mexico and others? what do we know about how big those facilities are? y won't be substantial facilities that will hundreds of people.et" this is where the economic cost j you're seeing a lot of pushback democrat john hicken looper fro colorado, he's not sure(hn this such a good idea because the burden to taxpayers is great÷áw enough that this will take away a lot of resources that the states have, particularly sociañ sfrss, medical care, and education. if you have an influx of thousands of children never been educated in american schools flooding into the system, that's definitely going to put a burden on things.xi?q %woásean, again, this is a z)=s problem that even if they end the migration today, the flow

doesn't look like there's any hope of doing, this is a problem here in america. >> john roberts in mission, ex]% texas, tonight. thank you, john. as i mentioned earlier, congressman gohmert will join us later in the program with more on the dire situation. also breaking tonight, u.s. released from taliban captivitys after being held for nearly five years is set to return to regular duty today according to shannon bream in washington tonight. >> sean, he has a desk job and freedom to leave base without any escort.l8q÷ but sergeant bowe bergdahl is nñ >> there is an all probability court-martial ahead of him with the option of simply walking t8 away with a less than honorable discharge. and at this late stage in the simply to walk away. >> but bergdahl's crit

that is the last thing they want actually faces the real consequences.dn that he's not just, you know, classified as awol. ñ we know that the evidence shows he actually deserted. so i'd like to see the military absolutely live up to that and give him the punishment he > rick grinnel stays in close kablgt with the six men who served alongside bergdahl in odñ one of them has been contacted by the military regarding its investigation into what happened. >> to not interview the very .íp people that were there seems the only explanation would be that the military absolutely understands that he di0cu3áq)t. interviewed though that will qsñ happen very soon.

investigation up to this point says bergdahl has not been classified as having any ongoing emotional damage and not been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress.m> shannon, a quick question, if every platoon member of thing saying he deserted and left of his own accord and theya didn't speak to one platoon member and didn't question bergdahl himself about this, how could he go back to active dutyñ under those circumstance sns. >> the army will only say it is an ongoing investigation. that they're working through the process. give them time. letter of the law. so i guess we have to have k1p&o confidence that they are doing that.c yñ and eventually we know n,iiúj bergdahl's going to be interviewed. and of course everyone else keeping tabs on this is hoping his platoon mates will be as well. umpcf1 o >> shannon, thank you.

one of bergdahl's platoon members will join us later in ó23ujru(áh)r&led while searching for bergdahl in 2009.c that's coming up later tonight on "hannity." j-sq) breaking news tonight, =sy attorney general eric holder ha; card and said some of the president obama is due to . >> there's a certain level of vehement it seems to me that's directed at me, directed at the president, you know, people talk about taking their country back. you know, i can't look into people's hjjjr)ur me that this president has been treated differently than others# there's a certain racial woy component to this for some people. i don't think this is the thing is a main driver, but for some there's a racial anamist. x-áh >>@5ñj with more on these remarks from the washington times, sheryl chumley is with us. go back to president bush and all the criticism thrown his way. but your reaction. >> thanks, sean.gíbc the rhetoric coming out of the 5

card being thrown by attorney general eric holder.z)>usk in 2009 president obama used the race card himself.wqm characterizing police officers ñ :py)á;- to a call at a black harvard 3s university's home before the 'ráh#riend ntqr÷ gave an interview with "the new yorker" during which he said he er(sq)ica detested his policies simply because he was a black man occupying the white ]e it's hardly just president obama just throwing the race card. his wife, michelle obama, in may traveled to topeka, kansas, and gave a speech to graduates t1oç during which she warned that it's common still in america for people of color to be stopped on the streets simply because of $4 their color. she also just said a few days ix

ago to a latino crowd in new york city that her husband would push immigration reform through then went into a whole bunch of sad stories about how she knew  hispanics had been discriminated against in america.sú9ñ she specifically spoke of 1929 kkk lynching of hispanics, police brutality, and even mentioned how hispanics had to use separate water fountains, one for whites, one for blacks, one for browns. is just a few days ago the blog several blacks in chicago, obama's hometown, rallying in ñ protest of his immigration policies calling him the worst ñ president ever. thank you. >> all right. cheryl, thank you. also developing tonight the islamic extremist group in nigeria, boko haram, has released a video of the 200 nigerian schoolgirls kidnapped back in april. the leader of the group is seen on video laughing, making fun oñ

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fighters held. it's also these coincided with the visits of malala -- this iw5 video also claims responsibility for a blast that's went off for the very first time.5é÷ and if this is true -- the first time boko haram has claimed /d?x responsibility for a blast wfj% time. this is true, it will the first time that boko haram has claimed responsibility toer a blast inside lagos, the nigeri from northeasternuy+a nigeria, most of the attacks blamed on boko haram has taken place.-0ñ >> all right. thanks so much for being with oñ us, samuel.)xmy4a1e coming up next tonight right here on "hannity". wfñh!ga

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sides could meet in cairo, sit g down and go over terms for a longer term cease-fire seen a lot of fighting and with the ground troops coming emyd and a lot of people have been ct ground offensive or that cease fire agreement? so perhaps we could see the fighting come to a halt pretty soon, sean. >> john in gaza city tonight. thank you.ç4lv/8"aa22l /. minist defend his nation. lm$zis-v34 >> i just want your viewers to imagine the united states being2 cities but in every city betweeu new york and colorado. maybe 20% of the united states  would be exempt, 80% of your citizens would have to be in 5m bomb shelters or ready to go into bomb shelters within a minute to a minute and a half max.

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it's a good pleasure to be with you. and you don't hear any firm declaration of the president. as a matter of fact one of his special assistants, phillip gordon, was there in israel last week -- rs$&' >> he blamed israel. >> absolutely.-.f3 he blamed israel for standing 6ú skaúhoñ? we must understand is hamas is  belligerent. we should not be sitting at the tablg talkin[ ÷.jx? the only negotiation should be because its charter talks about the complete destruction and killing of every jewish citizen, man, woman and child, and the @r(t&háhp &hc% so how are you going to negotiate a cease fire with this type of group? all they're doing is buying time to replenish the 1,000 rockets they just expended.q69c/i>ñ and those rockets and armaments that were destroyed. >> can you help me out?2xw% ].?ñ america fund this hamas

we're giving them money. why would we do that -- to our closest ally in the region. you mentioned phillip gordon blaming israel for occupation of the west bank. that is the exact language of whose side are we going to be on ñ >> that is the rhetorical %rack &m obama onø÷wfo obviously if phillip gordon is % stating that in israel he is speaking for the administration, resident. cçugmáu &hr(t&háhp &hc% palestinia!5,rrorist organization went into a reconciliation pact and signed an agreement with hamas, we should have cut off all funding palestinian authority over in the west bank. but we're not sending that clear and decisive message. we're not sending the strength of leadership we should have coming from the white house. this is the symbol of weakness. this is what is happening in the

islamic state, the caliphate, ,ñ because we are seen as being in a position of not having any i5b1!"át)esident said we were going to pivot from the middle east. we gave mohamed morsi, former head of the muslim brotherhood,ñ nowtc $1.5 billion.$ooy coalition and palestinian authority. i got to tell you something, i don't think this administration either understands radical islamists or cares to deal with the situation here. isn't this a moment where we n'z ought to be showing moral clarity, that we have a common i israel, that's first and foremost.bljñsc then they want to go after the f west ws nited states. radical islamists right now?i)? >> yeah, that is. and when you look at the support to the muslim brotherhood and ÷ the obama administration çwjhj2ñ

withholding support to the current egyptian government for the ouster of mohamed morsi andt the real strong, you know, condemnation of the muslim brotherhood. but also we have an armament support and resource support to islamist rebels in libya.j]mi41?ñ so we have a very confusing middle east policy. it seems that we are supporting islamists. we are givi%wn3hem the advantage resource support, financial .wñ support, and that is what is confusing many of the people in the middle east such as israel and also egypt who are for support. >> all right. e&v immigrants crossing our southern new report surfaced that uwu"]uq authorities are finding dead children who tried to "cross the rio grand." and ranchers are finding the and texas congressman gohmert went inside a border patrol6a1gr station to see firsthand how the unaccompanied children are being processed.wp

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welcome back to "hannity." welcome back to "hannity." my next guest tragically lost her son, 32-year-old police sergeant brandon mendosa, when an illegal immigrant killed him in a head-on collision in an arizona highway this past may. this party broken mother is making her voice heard in the hopes of preventing this from ever happening again in a powerful letter to president obama she wrote about the man who said "this man happened to be an illegal immigrant, was in this country illegally, convicted of previous crimes, no social security number, no valid driver's license, but he had purchased a vehicle and registered to drive in maricopa county, arizona. i had my son's life stolen from me by a man who didn't value his

life, was three times the legal limit drunk, was high on meth and also drove over 35 miles the wrong way on four different freeways a had no business being in this country. here is mary ann, welcome to the program. i'm very sorry what happened to your son. >> thank you, sean. >> okay. you wrote this letter to the president. when did you write it? have you gotten any response? do you expect a response? >> i worked on it for the last two weeks, sent it last wednesday. i have not heard a response, and quite frankly i don't expect to. >> yeah. let's talk about your son. let's talk about this because one of the issues that we're discovering is that a lot of the illegals in this country, they have pasts, criminal pasts. number two, they even have criminal records in the u.s. but even when they're caught, they're let go. was that the case with this man? >> yes, he was convicted in 1994. they did not catch up with him to actually press the charges on him until 2002 when he was

trying to cross the border. they took him back up to colorado. they were lenient on him, dismissed assault, burglary, leaving the scene of an accident, left a conspiracy to commit fraud, but he never spent any jail time. >> so in other words he's in the country illegally, he's committing crimes, serious crimes. they let him go, and then he gets a car and kills your son. i mean, i would feel betrayed by my government at that point. >> i am. and i feel like obama is wanting to raise the level of crimes that people can commit in this country before they're deported, which is really lowering the standards of what the american people expect of immigrants coming into our country. >> yeah. i can't imagine there's anything more painful than losing a child. >> brandon was an intricate part of my family. he was a spoke out of my wheel that's missing now. he was a huge part of this community.

had a huge impact on children and families who were illegal immigrants. and the farthest thing that i want people to think is that i'm racist. i have always taught my children and i've always lived by you don't look at a person's skin color, you look at the way they conduct their lives. >> but yet that's the way the debate in the country's being framed. what's your reaction to that? >> as far as my situation? >> well, no, i mean, in other words it seems that -- we'll get into this later in the show and talk about it more often in the days to come, but the attorney general thinks criticism of the president and him is based on racism, but it seems anybody that wants to enforce the law of the land and send people back that don't respect our laws and sovereignty somehow that's race related. how do you react to that charge? >> that's the easy way out. and that's an easy way to deflect what the real problem is. and it's been a continual

problem all through history. this is the way it goes whenever we're talking about illegals and people entering our country illegally. there has to be something changed. it's never going to happen the way the administration is going about it. it's not. >> mary ann, i hope you get the response you deserve. i'm very sorry about your son. thank you for being with us. >> thank you very much. and joining us now with reaction to that story and to give us a firsthand account of what he saw on the border with john roberts, our reporter over the weekend, texas congressman louie gohmert. congressman, i saw you out there with john roberts. i was down there last week. i saw a lot. while i was there there was a group of ten that was stopped from entering illegally and another group of seven from el salvador that got in illegally. what did you see? >> well, we saw wave after wave after wave of people coming in. and at one point our border patrol men, i'm sure you developed a great respect for what they put up with and what they do. they just quietly keep going about doing their job. but at one point we were driving through those back roads down by

the river, you know, miles away from hard tops. and we went for about an hour and a half down along the river before we saw border patrolman. we did happen to see two look outs jump off a cage over, you know, like ten feet or so up. >> look out for the other side? mexico looking out? >> no, no, actually, sean, these were on the american side just about, you know, 30 yards from the river. but there's a pump station that was covered with a big cage. and they were on top of the cage. there are also a couple of tanks they like to get on top of where they can see things coming. they saw my vehicle and jumped off. they were shocked to see it because they had just seen the border patrolman go by. but think about it, sean, if you're the drug cartel, people are paying you to get you across the river. you may pull some off into sex trafficking and human

trafficking for illegal purposes, but you control when they cross, where they cross, the coyotes don't want to be caught, as you learned. but you send several different groups, you tie up our border patrolmen at the same time, you know how long it takes to go through that list of questions. it's not unusual to think that, gee, we're in the business of getting drugs into america, we have this amount of time now that we've tied them up with these folks. >> louie. >> i mean, it is a disaster. we need to have the national guard and more border patrol down there to stop it. >> i spoke to i.c.e. people and border patrol people on my radio show today. you have these guys -- they're not even willing to go home because of all the health issues they're facing on a daily basis. >> that's right. >> and 70% of them can't do their job of patrolling the border because they're doing paperwork and helping those kids that are in these varying facilities. >> yeah, that's right. >> in texas you heard from this mother, 642,000 crimes committed

against texans in the last seven years. >> that's right. and over 100,000 criminals. and then you've heard this administration has released tens of thousands of people they knew were criminals. and that means the chances are good they go out and commit crimes again. that's insane. they are putting more and more people at risk just as the dear mother you just heard from. i mean, they are -- there are crimes being committed that wouldn't be committed if these people were down there. and you point out the border patrol, you know, they're tied up. some of them are down there near the border, but they have to bring the people to a staging area. and then have them send on up for their temporary detention. but, sean, until we start sending some people home, then that wave is just going to keep coming. one night it was probably about 2:00 in the morning one little boy he said -- and he was a sweet kid.

and i'd give him a little snack. he was obviously hungry. and he was following me around. and i said to one of the fox reporters, or cameramen, what's he saying to me? sweet kid. he was asking, are you going to stay here until everybody comes? and i said, no. he said, it would be a long time because there are thousands of us waiting to come. >> all right, louie gohmert. >> we got to stop it. >> thank you so much for being with us for that report. we appreciate it. coming up, the army has announced that sergeant bowe bergdahl will return to active duty. so one of the men who served alongside him in afghanistan think about this move apparently at the army they never talked to one of his platoon members. we'll talk to one of them next plus a mother whose son died while searching for bowe in 2009. and later, should catholic priests be allowed to wed? there are reports that pope francis might be open to that idea. that and more as "hannity" continues.

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welcome back to "hannity." the u.s. welcome back to "hannity." the u.s. army announced today that recently freed taliban p.o.w. bowe bergdahl who disappeared from his base in afghanistan in 2009 will return to active duty. bergdahl will live in the army barracks and do administrative work in a base in san antonio. last month the army announced there was no evidence of

misconduct by bergdahl while in captivity, but the investigation into the circumstances surrounding his disappearance and his capture, well, they're still ongoing. here with reaction tonight to the breaking news a man who served alongside bowe bergdahl in afghanistan is with us. and sandra andrews is with us. her son was killed while searching for sergeant bergdahl. thank you both for being here. appreciate it. cody, let me start with you. did they talk to you or any of your platoon mates about the circumstances under which he left? did they do an investigation? >> at the time of his disappearance, yes, we were all involved in the original investigation. since general dahl has been announced three and a half weeks ago he is the leader of the new investigation onto why bergdahl deserted, he has not contacted any of us. >> in other words -- >> nobody in platoon. >> nobody in the platoon has been contacted about the circumstances under which he

left? because i had the platoon leader on the show who said he heard a radio transmission from local people that said he was looking for the taliban. true? >> that was through llvi trafficking, yes. he did confirm he did hear that. >> what is the reaction? what is your reaction to the fact he's going back to active duty? >> well, you know, it's just reports haven't been confirmed yet by the army. i'm still surprised we have yet to be reached out to by general doll. because if you do an investigation, i think you need to hear both sides of the story. he's had plenty of time for the investigation three and a half weeks to at least reach out to us and say, you know, hey, i will be contacting you at a certain time. and we haven't got any of that. >> sandra, your son was one of a number of people that died in the search, the ongoing search for sergeant bergdahl. what is your reaction to today's news? >> i was really surprised. i was. thought why would he be going to

work when he's -- you know, they suspect he deserted. usually you would think he would be incarcerated in the brig or somewhere until that was investigated. >> let me put up on the screen, because we do have some evidence that suggests that i would argue suggests he should not be put back to active duty. one is sergeant bergdahl slamming the u.s. army in an e-mail to his parents saying the u.s. army is the biggest joke in the world that the world has to laugh at, the army of liars, back stabbers, fools, bullies. a few good sergeants are getting out as early as they can and telling a few of us privates to do the same. and in an e-mail to his parents he wrote he's ashamed of america, i'm sorry for everything here. these people need help. and what they get is the most conceited country in the world telling them that they're nothing and that they're stupid. i'm ashamed to be an american. and the title of u.s. soldier is

just a lie of fools. i'm sorry for everything, the horror that is america is disgusting. that guy is active duty for the same country and he's going to get a check for $350,000, codey? >> well, you know, i think, you know, the army needs to do what's right here and need to abide by the army values. and he needs to face consequences for his actions. not only is it a slap in the face to all the men and women who have served honorably, who have held their oath, and it's also a bad precedent to set towards future service members that, you know, hey, i can join the military and do whatever i want and get away with it. >> there's enough information here that tells me he should not be on active duty. and sandra lost a son over this. guys, we'll stay on the story, i promise. thank you both for being with us. coming up next, pope francis speaks out, should priests be allowed to marry? according to a report pope francis might be open to the idea. we'll explain next.

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the mandatory celibacy is a problem and vowed to find a solution. here with reaction is the president of the seminary, dr. richard land, father jonathan morris. welcome to both of you. so there are 400,000-plus priests and thinks about 2% of them are involved in this pedophilia scandal, right? that's what he said. >> he said the numbers he had been given from his people, the keep in mind, sean, bbc, said the general population has 5%. the same exact article. >> that's true. >> 1% is way too many. one situation is way too many. but keep that in mind. >> if you take the 2%, it's around 8,000 priests of the 400 plus thousand. >> have been accused credibly. very few have been convicted. unfortunately very few have been turned in. >> of all the apostles, all but one was married, right? >> are you making the connection

between sexual abuse and celibacy? >> no. >> sean, the fact that somebody's wife dies, does that all of a sudden make them a pedophile? the fact i'm not married does that make me a pedophile. >> you're interpreting things i'm not saying. >> i just like to argue with you. >> thank you. you know. >> you're welcome. >> forgive me father for i have sinned. geez. >> you have on the contrite to ask for forgiveness. just give you a hard time. >> i want to ask you this. do you believe the pope is opening the door for potential marriage as one solution? >> he obviously is interested or at least open to opening the conversation. now, he did this interview with, keep in mind, a 90-year-old atheist journalist who he has become friends with. they spent an hour together. the journalist did not have a single regarding device or even take notes. this interview you have to take with a grain of salt. the pope doesn't talk about these things unless he doesn't want it to get out there. yes, there is an opening. >> of all the apostles.

all men, 11 of the 12 were married, correct? >> let's start with jesus who decided not to get married himself. >> apostles. >> yes. >> peter was an apostle and the pope is a direct descendent we believe of the church. >> yes. >> and for 1,000 years priests were allowed to get married in the church. >> that's right. many of them right from the beginning decided not to and that was also supported by the church. jesus when he picked the disciples said marriage is a very, very good thing. >> don't burn. >> absolutely. the catholic church, celibacy for priests is not doctrine. it's not something that could not -- cannot change. >> that's right. >> it's certainly a possibility. >> all right. richard land, let me go to you because i think father morris is right in the sense i don't connect the two. >> no. >> but certainly the pool of potential priests is greatly reduced because of the celibacy issue. do you agree with that? >> well, i would think that's

true. i'm not an expert on the inner working of con thol sichl. the catholics i spoke to i don't believe that celibacy should be required for the priesthood just as i don't think that noncelibacy should be required for the protestant ministry. too often we have a nonofficial noncelibacy clause. it's difficult for pastors to get churches if he doesn't have a wife. i think god does give the gift of secelibacy for some for his kingd kingdom's sake. i thought celibacy was the easiest spiritual gift if you have it or you don't. i've been married for 43 years. i don't. >> you obviously don't. do you think, father morris, that priests should be able to get married to increase the pool of candidates? the only way it might be connected -- >> no. >> -- maybe you might be able to weed out -- >> connected to the pedophilia thing. >> not connecting it. maybe if the church has more options of people, it becomes

harder to become a priest because there are so many people who want to become a priest. is the -- >> first start by saying nobody should be allowed to be a priest just because there aren't very many candidates even though they might be a pedophile. forget about that. >> the church may overlook -- may not know that but they might see quirky, maybe not the personality they might be more willing -- >> i agree the conversation should be more out in the open, to discuss the issue. >> you're open to the discussion. >> absolutely. >> you didn't have a definitive position? >> i think it should be discussed thoroughly because it's a big deal. i, for example, sean, would not have become a priest, i don't think, if i could also have had a family. the reason is because i would dedicate myself 100% to my family. >> next question. >> i felt called to give up everything. who knows. if they change it -- sean, we'll see. >> you mean you might start dating? >> that is not what i was saying. >> the first person i would make you date is tamron holder.

>> liberal. >> my gosh, god help you. last word, richard land? >> well, look, i think that the main reason they should discuss this and i think they should change it is that there are many people who are called to god's service that i would not want to deprive of the unique joys of being a husband and being a father as well as being a local parish pastor. >> can i say, dr. land has been so balanced and very respectful and i love you for that, dr. land, for your work and for the great work of your church. >> appreciate what you do as well. >> absolute. on that happy note of prayer, all right, thank you both for being with us. and coming up, there is more "hannity" straight aid head right after the break.. how can i ease this pain? (man) when i can't go, it's like bricks piling up. i wish i could find some relief. (announcer) ask your doctor about linzess-- a once-daily capsule for adults with ibs with constipation

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