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varny and company. we start sharp. we do. dead on 11:00 a.m. eastern time on fox business network. okay. that's it for me. "the five" is next. hello, everyone. i'm dana perino, along with tarullo, bob beckel, greg gutfeld and eric bolling. we're in new york city and this is "the five." if you asked president obama about the security situation around the globe here's what he would tell you. >> you have to choose any moment to be born in human history you choose this time. the world is less violent than it has ever been. >> that was rockets falling down on israel, civil war in syria and civil war in ukraine.
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ed henry asked the press secretary about the claim and wasn't expecting this response. >> how does the white house react to the notion that the president is a bystander in these crises. >> there's a number of situations in which you've seen this administration intervene in a meaningful way. it has substantially furthered american interests and improved the, you know, the tranquility of the global community. >> "the washington post" is taking note. dana millbank says where? tranquility? where, in iceland. david ignay show us calls obama's foreign policy overly cautious. ron fournier says band liens on three words that should be virtually banned from the vocabulary -- me, i and we.
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eric let me start with you. when president obama -- we know he reads editorials, he's pretty involved in looking what the washington circuit is saying about his presidency. i think there's a major disconnect. it's one thing to say something on the cocktail circuit, another to get so frustrated you start writing it on the editorial pages. but still i don't think the white house thinks it has a problem. >> he wasn't being earnest, really? he named three things. we didn't name iraq, boko haram, north korea, central america, the flood of illegals coming into the country. so, no. he's wrong. it's not more tranquil than it's been. he's not providing tranquility. it's more dangerous in decades since ronald reagan calmed things down. can i go from foreign policy to domestic policy to domestic stuff right here right now.
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>> it is all about foreign policy. >> just let me do this. over the weekend this translate why this stuff matters. why josh earnest saying this stuff. i was with one of my best friends, a small business owner, $1,000 under obamacare a month. i voted for the guy. i can't understand what he's doing. i hear these scandals. these things are going on. i don't get it. it's not working for me as a small businessman. it's not working for the public. when you look back where are we in the world? i don't think we're perceived as the powerhouse we used to be. it starts right here at home for the economy and that's where he's lacking. >> i'm going to pivot it back over to foreign policy. i heard something very interesting last night from somebody at an event that they think that the republicans could actually run in 2016 a candidate
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whose platform is basically i will restore america's global leadership. america's position in the world. very unusual for a campaign, i think, to be run on foreign policy. do you think that's even possible? >> i don't know because i don't have a crystal ball and i don't know exactly where the heads of the american people will be at that time. if i'm to assume we'll continue with this instability across the globe then it could be a good platform. however, foreign policy, if you look at the priorities of the american people it's not number one. as eric point out domestic issues are number one. i don't know who was saying that. i have not seen in recent years any candidate run with foreign policy as part of the lead platform issue. it's usually economy. obama did hope and change. it could be part of a larger theme. the president gets a lot of things wrong. first and foremost he says nobody would have wanted to be
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born at any other time than this. i would have wanted to be born in the '60s. it's not just foreign policy. he's a bystander when it comes to veterans affairs and the border. there's a link between all of these issues that he's just not engaged in. and the problem that i have is earlier this week it was announced the feds would look into nfl locker rooms. they wanted to look into prescription pain killer use. people are saying it's not that he's just totally checked out he's engaged things that are not priorities. if you should be rivalling through anybody's locker it's josh earnest's desk. what kind of individual would say it's tranquil in the world? >> he might regret, maybe not regret, but that might have been a word he wishes he didn't use. he was thinking and you could see the word cloud was in his head and he chose tranquility.
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legality me ask you about fred hyatt. he suggested that president obama needs a new national security team within the white house, someone to challenge his thinking. i wonder if you think that would actually make a difference because president obama hasn't really listened to anybody on his national security team before. if you look most recently before the syria red line, panetta, gates and clinton all part of the inner circle told the president their recommendation was to do something that the president ultimately chose not to do. do you think that changing the national security team would make a difference? >> generally in the sixth year of the presidency you think about changing the white house staff. the problem is you can change all you want. you won't change the man. and in this case, obama is in to the max. he listens to two or three people. tranquility was not a good word but you talk about ronald reagan. ronald reagan in the period of
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time when ronald reagan was in office, we had an actively four or five civil wars going on in south america. four or five in south africa. iran/contra scandal was going on. he sent missiles to the iranians. we lost 2,000 marines in one day one reagan's watch. so please you got to look at history. you just can't say -- a lot of bad things going on now? there have been for years. i want to know a period you think that's more tranquil than this. generally. >> i think the period after, you know, maybe reagan's third, fourth, fifth year in. he solved the cold war. he solved -- to say that ronald reagan is responsible for, you know, a marine barracks being blown to smithereens. designee sent them up there. >> they blew the barracks up.
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>> i want to get greg in here. >> i'm thinking about what i'm going eat. >> let me ask you this. let's just say the world is always messy. the difference being president obama inherited the leader of the free world and one of the complaints from some people is he has declined to assume that position and drive it home. >> yeah. he is doing something by doing nothing. but instability is his ability. his tear down the wall moment is happening right now. unfortunately that wall is our wall. it's the border. that's an interesting contrast. by not doing something he's watching something happening, he's not a leader as much as he is a facilitator of an ideology. america is a class project for a grad student whose designs are coming to fruition. as far as tranquility increasing why are people storming our borders? he completely disproved the
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claim that people are coming here because of gang violence. in fact, it's his policies that are attracting these people here. he's not a magnet for immigration he's a linear accelerator. obama is as removed as flight 370. nero fiddled but obama is playing the orchestra. he's playing golf. going to these amazing parties that none of us will ever be invited to. the belief is and then i'll stop, the believe is when you visit somewhere you're supposed to leave it better off than you were when you entered. obama got it backwards. we gave him america and in return he gave us detroit. >> let me just -- i have to ask you when was america's borders not under siege. the 11 million people here illegally before obama got here and most got here after the last, when reagan and others did
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the immigration reform bill. this has been going on a long time. this is nothing new. you can hang all that on barack obama. in fact, fewer coming in now than during those periods. >> here's the difference. never in my lifetime has a president in which -- no matter what the conflict is, whether it's the irs, the doj, the borders has the political analysis been about him. not about the country. it's about how it affects him. how he feels. does he feel good about this. both elections we were about saving america when in fact we were anointing a savior and focused on him and not this chaos. that's why nothing gets fixed. >> that's a good and thoughtful point. >> the only tranquility is the white house. maybe he's saying that because he's sitting in a very quiet, tranquil white house like a day spa that doesn't realize there's a problem. bob you say the world has always
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been full of conflicts and things like this. the difference is, though, president obama has created and made worse certain conflicts. >> like what? >> like egypt. >> he created egypt? >> let me finish. he asked the president of egypt to step aside. he did it. they celebrated. democrats celebrated and said democracy will hit the people of egypt. that has not happened. muslim brotherhood took over. iraq is another example. they trumpet this as one of the greatest accomplishments for their administration. we know that's not the case. what happens is if there's a problem, and it's been made worse, you don't quit on the problem. you go back and fix the problem. so president bush came back with a during. president obama goes and creates havoc and doesn't solve problems. >> it was million and a half people in egypt and the generals in egypt that got rid of hosni
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mubarak, not obama. >> when you say bring in new staff he doesn't listen to them anyway. his attorney general says this is the most dangerous time this, is the most frightening since i've been attorney general. a little bit different than tranquil. >> number one, 200 plus marines not 2,000 marines -- >> excuse me, you're right. >> also, under president obama, clinton, bush and obama all had about the same number of illegals coming across the border. president obama sent the fewest back. you're wrong on that one as well. you say he's doing a better job than prior presidents. you're wrong. >> forget sending back, how many have come in? >> the point being about a million a year and fewer than 400,000. >> 6 million of the 11 million here are president obama. >> i don't know how many have come and gone. >> that's ridiculous. >> you can look the numbers up if you want. >> also we can agree that
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unaccompanied minors that's the crisis, that's why we're asking the taxpayers to fund $3.7 billion worth of emergency funds to deal with a problem that has happened on this watch. >> we ought to give credit the first plane load of kids went back today. it's a good start. it is a start. it's a start. you'll see another plane tomorrow and another one after that. >> i doubt it. okay. if i don't go then no time for bob's segment at the end and he'll be mad. a reporter could lose his job after saying something about a young black men. he's been suspended. does he deserve to me. greg has those details coming up. [ male announcer ] the mercedes-benz summer event is here. now get the unmistakable thrill... and the incredible rush... of the mercedes-benz you've always wanted.
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♪ remember when eric holder called us a bunch of cowards for not discussing race. tell that to sean berger. reporting on the brutal premeditated killing of police officer melvin santiago by a black man he linked hatred of cops to a lack of fathers in the black community. >> now it's worth noting we were besieged, flooded with calls from police officers furious we would give media coverage to the life of a cop killer. we thought it was important to share on this anti-cop mentality that has contaminated the incertificate city. the understand lying cause young black men growing up without fathers. unfortunately, no one in the news media has the courage to
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touch that subject. >> so he was suspended. maybe he should leave the opinions to gas bags like me. my guess that's not the only reason they kept him home. a white guy commenting on black communities. if he was black it may have been different. holder's nation of cowards, bergen decided to speak up and paid for it. some citizens set up a memorial for the slain. not for the cop. the killer. the killer shot santiago while in his car. he was only six months on the job policing a community he was trying to help. the memorial is disgusting. a toxic shrub in a barren field. how do such things grow? in a climate where bad stuff cannot be discussed without being punished how can it not? fear is the fuel that cull ti elevates the worse in all of us so maybe we are cowards on race but not by choice. the suspension of a reporter for
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a strong comment sends a comment to all, better to be a coward than unemployed. dana, when you watch. he's a reporter but doing commentary. he was responding to the fact that people are upset that they were talking about the, i guess, the background of the cop killer and wanted to shed light on the anti-cop mentality. should he have brought that up? was that incorrect, do you think? >> i'm not sure how this local station runs things, but i love local news anywhere i go i love to watch it. on occasion there's like a commentary or ombudsman. the station was called with lots of complaints. it was in the teleprompter. that wasn't an off the cuff comment. if the bosses are so upset by it, it wasn't as if somebody didn't check it. that's what i don't understand about these suspensions or apologies. >> eric should he have said that, right place, wrong time?
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>> i'm old for free speech. he was on a news program. here's where he gets himself in trouble. when he says the underlying cause of all this, of course, young black men growing up without fathers. of course part is his commentary, i'm not sure -- he may have ad libbed that part. if you're doing commentary they would be smart -- >> put it up there. >> should put commentary right under it. we do commentary at the bottom. this is coming from my opinion not the station. the station is pushing back on what he said. >> commentary of the whole show. >> that's the difference. >> everybody has a commentary below it. >> this is not necessarily a news show, this is a commentary, opinion show and therefore we can give our opinion. >> i just weigh in on this. the thing that bothers me about it is not all kids who are black
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who don't have fathers hate cops. >> or kill cops. >> and the implication here is that this was the catch all answer to the problem of the, of cops being killed in jersey city, in black communities. all because of no fathers. i would bet you, there have been cops killed from kids who had fathers or no fathers. this guy becomes a sociologist is way beyond his grade. >> in the city there's a large number of missing fathers. there are families without fathers. there's a lot of high crime. he should have said a equals b equals c. >> he basically started with he's black. then he ended the equation with and he shot somebody. and the b in this was because he came from a single parent
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household which i just think is a tenuous, really weak causal link because single parenthood i think is a problem that transcends race not limited to the black community. this is a national epidemic. and you see kids who commit murder who are white, you see black kids commit murder. so i don't think that using single parenthood and trying to make the direct link to killing a cop was a good idea. single moms account for one quarter of american households. is he implying one in four households are creating cop killers. he's making the point there's an epidemic of crime but to link it to single motherhood is bizarre. the wife of this cop killer came out and she said she wished her husband killed more. this guy is surrounded by evil. this man married evil. evil exists in all colors, white, black, hispanic. >> that was very well said.
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one thing we didn't mention, one thing that bothers me there would actually be a monument to a kid who killed this cop. i find that -- in the community, the community should have risen up immediately and done away with that. it's obscene in every way i can imagine. the where of honoring somebody who killed a police officer -- you wonder why there is the sense of people who don't understand the inner-city why they have a sense that there is this stuff goes on all the time. it does not. >> it's a cop out, society made him do it instead of personal responsibility which i don't buy. coming up next krchris chri jesse water, weird al yankovick coming up next. ♪ nothing's missed with tenatwist ♪
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seven swift minutes. one smooth host. first off, go big or go home. if that's not chris christie's 2016 campaign slogan. check this out. >> this summer from the makers of -- >> we clean up the mess of the past. >> no other way to attack a severe problem with this but with pain. >> hang on to your seats. >> that's not a real movie but that's a great trailer. i like that. >> you can make almost a
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interesting if you have a trailer voice in a world that nothing is for certain than chris christie. he should tout his weight loss and say let's do the same for the budget. >> that's a good point. why do you think i don't like it. i like it. look, i think there are -- it's very difficult to break through the clutter of all the news at the moment and i think it was creative and fun and this is a different way to break through and get a message across. >> bobby, what about making go bigger or go home. >> let me tell you. i think it was pretty smooth. pretty lick. why not? anything that's different. in politics you get through the clutter of all this crap. people pay attention to that. >> well presented. dana, do you like this trailer? >> i wrestled with what to say about it because i know it's hard to create interesting
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things in politics and usually what happens is it's hokey and not funny. oh, gosh i probably know the people that did this video. but i guess it's better than what we typically see. >> people say republicans are boring. at least they are trying. how about this one. >> got a long way to go. >> a very porky place, when waters visit the liberal limits of vermont whacky thoughts fly high and low. watch. >> do you think we should be killing terrorist there's so they don't hit us here? >> no. >> why not? >> that's wrong. >> it's wrong to kill terrorists. >> it's wrong to kill anybody. >> even terrorists? >> yes. >> how would you fight wront? -- war on terror.
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>> let's be friend. >> you want to be friends with al qaeda. >> at any point entire world to know we're all connected. >> do what you can do with that one. >> the administration agrees with this woman. we sit and laugh but this is similar mindset, right. we have to be nice to them. my favorite part of this and i have to say this is one of my favorite waters world is when he asked some guy about money and the guy said i don't believe in money. he said where did you get the sunglasses. my parents gave them to me. where did they get them? money. very funny. >> first of all, i've been to vermont a lot. this is not representative of vermont. this is jesse genius. he finds people like this and the genius of the producer of this show, selective editing and get yourself a good story. >> vermont is pretty liberal. >> that was the place where two of the towns, they passed laws
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in their towns to arrest george w. bush and dick cheney if they ever came to vermont for war crimes. there's a law, they pass ad law. let me just say, the great things about the united states military it goes and fights wars so that she can have an innocent mind -- >> stupid. >> he was probably 8 years old when 9/11 happened. it's totally distance. i'll give her a little bit of a pass. >> interesting point. >> it reflects a specific group of people that have divorced themselves from the reality that there's good and there's evil. she believes there's no evil -- if you just talk to somebody, these are the first people that die when the invading hoards arrive. they will shake the hands of the enemy. the enemy will shoot you. the enemy respects the enemy and
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people will find you. if you're a dr. demento fan, you have fish heads, weird al great time to grow up. >> he was fantastic. >> remember last week when we did, what was the first album you bought. not long after the one i bought i loved "beat it" when weird al did that, michael jackson cover i thought it was hilarious. >> he's releasing eight separate videos eight days in a row. >> i don't know who he is. he reminds me of a guy who was a porn star in a sequence of porn star movies. >> i know that guy. >> you have never seen a porn movie. i didn't think so. >> i'm glad we had waters world in this block because it seemed like a slow news day. coming up two of the dumbest thing politicians have ever said. we'll show you the ridiculous tape coming up next. my name is michael,
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politicians on both sides of the aisle say some pretty stupid things on occasion. take missouri congressman todd aiken. his comment on rape were a big reason for his 2012 senate defeat. last night he addressed those comments and showed he may not have learned from his mistakes. >> what you said that was so controversial was first of all you said it was very rare to being pregnant from rape and then you said if it's a legitimate rape the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down. >> right. >> do you believe that today? >> look. here was the point. the legitimate rape comment was an abbreviation. it is an idea of a legitimate claim of rape. >> if it's a legitimate claim of rape the female body has a way to shut it down. >> stress plays some part in
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fertility. >> what about politicians who actually reside in power. remember when nancy pelosi said this after the hobby lobby decision? >> we should antibiotbe afraid court that five guys decide what contraception is not. that court decision was a frightening one that five men should get down the specifics of whether a woman should use a diaphragm and she should pay for it or her boss. it's not her boss's business. >> last night me again kelly dismantled that claim. >> she went as far as to say -- this is a scary court, we should be afraid of it. "the five" guys who determine what contraception are legal? false. not true. then she says that's five men could get down the specifics of whether a woman should use a diaphragm. false. she's blatantly misleading the american people. it follows a narrative, bill,
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which is sort of this perjorative small victimization of women. we need be protect from the big bad men who wants to hurt us. >> it prompts the discussion about talking about women's issues as a whole. right. you heard todd aiken, he stuck his foot in his mouth and other instances where mike huckabee made a comment about a woman's libido. when should republicans talk about it or can they talk about it. mitt romney tried to talk about binders full of women and assailed for saying he wants to bring more women in. >> he wanted resumes of women because he wanted to promote more of them. the rhetorical overkill to attack somebody on the republican side, man or woman but usually men is basically
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it's like shooting fish in a barrel. it's almost too easy. in my opinion when nancy pelosi says it's very frightening the supreme court decision that men would get that specific what's more frightening the government got that specific in the furs place, the department of human and health services listed the name of contraceptives that the government was force companies to pay for. >> she got the wrong law too. pelosi said it's none of a business owner's business. that's what the court said miss pelosi. what about republicans talking about women's issues? should they stay away from it? >> no. politicians should talk about whatever they want to talk about. that's how you find out if they are crazy. then it's our fault if we put these people out there who are nuts and i want goes back to my point you just can't be right, you have to be persuasively right. i want these idiots to go away.
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it's different for nonlibs. pelosi, harry reid, dean, howard dean the screamer, joe biden, eric holder, warren, they all say dishonest stupid stuff but few people hold them accountable because the press shares their assumptions. if a nonliberal makes one slip up you're dead. there's no way out. that's why it's so important if you are running as a conservative or libertarian you have to be impeccable. >> greg, this guy said this two years ago. by the time he got a show like this somebody should have said you know you're going to get this question. answer it in a way that will be helpful. >> that's my point. i don't know. that's my point. >> he keeps stepping in it. >> why is he here, i don't know. >> eric, democrats make comments about men. harry reid said men will beat
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their wives if they don't get jobs. they can get away talking negatively about men. >> there's a book out. why are we having him on? >> we're having him on because it's good tv. so that's why. i can't figure -- >> it probably helped. do you really need to write a book. >> it helps megyn dismantle somebody like that to prevent others to do the same thing. >> i said there's an awful lot of people that have been nominated in these position that got themselves in these position. remember nevada. >> don't you hate when people get themselves in trouble, bob. >> a mom is the first to be thrown into jail for doing drugs while pregnant. we'll talk about this controversial law next.
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♪ mom sitting in jail days after giving her birth because she and her newborn tested positive for meth. she was charged with assault under a new state law that makes it a crime to take drugs while pregnant. opponents are challenging the law. greg, what do you think? >> i don't know. that's bad. i say for theory use drugs while having a baby. but i got say never been a woman in my entire life that initiated drug habit. it's usually considered to by a guy. drugs and alcohol are not the same for men and women. it's a big issue. there should be some leniency on
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women. >> she is an adult. at some point, the protection of a child and an innocent life, i think that's something we have to be for. so i think that she should be in trouble for it. i hope that there is treatment for it. i don't know. i've never done drugs. she said she smoked meth four days before she gave birth. that's a choice. maybe she's an addict but she made a decision. she has to pay for it. >> this is where the pro choice community gets in trouble. because they've argued this isn't a fetus, third-party isn't a fetus. it's a child now who is born addicted to drugs. they get in the same type of trouble when they argue about partial birth and other things because progressives don't think this is a problem. if the aclu would have money well spent they would get these women into treatment rather than equal protection under the law. it doesn't make sense men can't get pregnant. there's no winning argument.
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neither side wins. >> you want to pass? >> look, it's child abuse. exactly that's what it is. what's the difference between abusing a child when it's in the womb or coming out. if you feed drugs to an infant, it's the same thing. >> i've struggled with this since this topic came up. and i tend to come down on both greg's -- addicts, particularly young women who have babies 15, 16, 17 years old are introduced to drugs by pimps and other people who are bad guys and i would not throw them in jail. but dana's point at 26 years old by that time you're aware and if you're going to use methamphetamine, the worst thing you can use, even more than crack, it will be a sure thing you'll have a child born who is not well. >> can i mention one last thing. she said she smoked meth six
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days before she gave birth. if on that day she was hit by a drunk driver and she and the baby were killed that drunk driver would have been busted for two lives. it's still substance abuse. to me she has to be responsible as well. >> there should be a carve out for women who seek help. >> agree. >> one more incorporate up next.
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>> derek jeter, he's retiring. you don't have to be a baseball lover or appreciate the fact the effect he's had on america. take a look at this commercial. >> jeter. number 2. ♪ >> it goes on and on. it's a great commercial. the all-star game airs tonight, fox broadcast network 7:30 coverage starts 8:00 game. check it out. >> american league wins. >> i'm not taking that bet. >> i'll watch that. >> an update on what eric holder has been doing. the justice department has been
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busy extracting a $7 billion fine from citigroup. yes a group specifically in the company that jack lu was heading. he's the treasury secretary. administration was going clean up wall street. then this. no investigation know the irs scandal. the justice department is investigating a controversy in nebraska where during a fourth of july parade they ran a float that had an outhouse on it saying president obama reading library. eric holding investigating that but no investigation into the irs. >> perfect lead into mine. few weeks ago the government did a big document about obamacare. in which the government suggested the insurance companies please don't raise those premiums just yet. and if you lose money we will bail you out. that is actually in the document that just came out, first broken
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by town hall.com. so obamacare continues to be a bitter pill for most americans. >> am i next? perfect timing on this. >> you get to be next. >> obamacare, since obamacare came into effect 9.5 million people fewer uninsured and those who have new insurance 74% find it favorable who are republicans. >> right. >> you just missed that. you put that crap out from town hall. >> it's not crap. i can read it. >> it's a legitimate poll. people like it. >> people love obamacare. bob. >> my horoscope. whatever else you do or don't do today don't let anyone make important financial decisions for you. stop strangling ducks in the park. >> does this mean if you're a virgo your birthday is coming up. >> that's right.
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>> big birthday. >> very big birthday. >> huge celebration. send your presents to greg. don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an episode of "the five." "special report" is next. it can take as few as eight seconds. howl illegal immigrants cross the rio grande and new analysis why many come. this is "special report." good evening. i'm bret baier. as the immigration crisis continues on the southern border the obama administration said it sent back 40 immigrants back to honduras. there's new questions tonight about just why it's happening. we have fox team coverage. is the fear of violence back home is motivating the surge.
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