madashell@foxnews.com. miss megyn is next. thanks for watching us. the spin stops here, we're definitely looking out for you. we have got breaking news tonight with a new ultimatum in a violent showdown in the middle east that is threatening to explode. israel tells some 100,000 palestinians you have hours to get out of your homes or you may die. welcome to the kelly file, i'm megyn kelly. the deadline is roughly 1:00 a.m. eastern time. while the clock counts down, watch and listen to what our live cameras have captured tonight in the dangerous border between israel and gaza. >> hamas rockets launched from a

variety of locations, and that is also the sound of israel's iron dome defense system shooting them down. hamas even released some of its own video, reportedly showing just the hundreds of rockets it's been reigning down on america's best ally in the middle east. all this as thousands of israeli troops stand ready at this moment, along the gaza border for a possible ground invasion. some military officials say it could be the only way to take apart that terror group, hamas' network of secret supply tunnels. joining me now, casey mccarlin, who held national security posts in the nixon, ford and reagan administrations. thank you both for being here, as you hear these warnings, telling folks in this neighborhood outside of gaza city to get out, because the bombing is about to begin,

100,000 palestinians, i ask you whether we are on the brink of a ground invasion now? >> we're on the brink of a major barrage of an air attack against the missile sites, the rocket launchers in gaza city. whether it's an actual invasion on the ground, we'll have to see. if the israelis can take out as much as they feel they need to do to degrade the gaza facility, you know, the hamas stockpiles, they don't have to -- they don't want to go in on the ground. >> what we're being told is they have these tunnels and they're exploiting the palestinians. exploiting these tunnels and israel is left with very little choice but to go in on the ground, hence the tens of thousands of somdiers who are getting ready to do that, we're told. >> hamas has made this decision easier because of the response to the cease-fire offer. if they had accepted a cease-fire, we wouldn't be talking about a ground invasion. we're only having this conversation because hamas'

response was to fire in hundreds more rockets into israeli, specifically going after the most densely populated areas they could. the israelis would rather not go in on the ground, messier from a casualty perspective, from an international relations and public affairs perspective. they want to dismantle this terror network. netanyahu says they will get the calm they need, i think we should take him at his word. unless there's a cease-fire, i think this is what's going to happen. >> israel is saying, we'd like you to stop bombing us, and hamas is saying, well, we would like you to stop existing. one wonders how any negotiation can go forward? >> it can't. the problem with it now, it will lose a lot of casualties. the palestinians, hamas, uses its people to protect its missiles. israel uses its missiles to protect people. hamas uses people as human shields. we will now start seeing civilian casualties, because hamas put its rocket launchers

in apartment buildings, in schools and hospitals. they want to have the big casualties because they want to play to the court of public opinion say, see, look at all the terrible damage israel is doing to us. therefore, not only does israel not have the right to exist, they're the aggressors. >> explain to the viewers, how is this relevant to their lives. there are a lot of americans that watch closely. how is this affecting lives here at home, safety here at home, and what rule did we play in what's happening overseas tonight? >> it affects us for one, a lot of americans have family and friends who are in israel, in the cities who are currently existing under this reign of terror, which is what's happening. they're fires missiles that can't be targeted. missiles that are targeted to fall on anyone in a populated area. this is how hamas does business. >> they don't care. >> if it hits a home for old ladies, hamas thinks, great, we

committed the most atrocious damage we can. the stability that we're hoping to once again bring back to the middle east or relative stability, i guess has been pretty terrible. so there's a lot of reasons why i think we have to focus in on hamas right now, and get an understanding of the moral calculation at play. the israelis are trying to do the least damage they can to get this violence to stop. they just want this to end, but hamas in some sort of reverse incentive wants more casualties to occur among the palestinians, because they turn to the world and say, look at the big bad israelis. israel wants casualties to end. they want more dead people, more women and children on the streets. until they have had enough of that, they're not going to stop these rockets. >> was there any role for us. john kerry tried to broker a peace process that failed miserably. i know you said artificial deadline that they did not need, that was the end of it, there was a lot of questioning about whether he should have said,

nine months from now, it better be done. and nine months came and went and it wasn't done. and it was -- what the united states needs to do, if israel is now surrounded on every single side of israel, it has an enemy, al qaeda or isis or hamas, anybody, all those groups want to exterminate the state of israel, the united states is drawn into something like that, but i think more importantly, understand the only way you ultimately defeat radical islam is starve them. why? because they have arab oil money, it's fueling all sides of the fighting. i mean, it is the mother's milk of terrorism. until we become energy independent, drive the price of oil down in the ground. these groups are going to use that money to attack israel, the united states. to attack each other. >> interesting. thanks for being here. >> buck, you too. >> thanks. >> also tonight, a new effort by democrats to demonize the supreme court and cast stones at hobby lobby. up next, we will fact check

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like ones performed at planned parenthood but they can add to fertilized eggs. to many, that is ending life the left maintains this is bogus science, offering op eds by doctors. and three of four do not lead to abortion. and mainly when an egg is fertilized. where on earth did that come from?

well, there is the supreme court opinion, which finds that these four methods of preventing an already-fertilized egg by developing any further, it's right there in black and white. they're probably just citing just a hobby lobby shield they were citing the government's own brief. and here is presenting and giving health and human services, oh, the administration, the group that actually oversees these very drugs? maybe fda isn't clear. according to fda approved product labels a copper iud works by preventing

implantation. with progetin may inhibit and ella may also work by affecting implantation. it's there, black and white. the science sounds clear but perhaps justices should have relied upon agenda-driven pundits or perhaps idea logs should think of it more before trying hard to mislead and divide us. joining us me, chris, it's like they try one misrepresentation. they try another. >> i don't know how you expect me to follow something like that. >> i am perfectly fine. >> do you feel more comfortable >> neither, please.

>> and you've seen my point. they want to pretend these are from stopping sperm and egg from making a happy union. yes, that is what they do in part. and the fda and health and human services and doj represented that to the united states supreme court. . >> i don't think this has anything to do with ganytes and everything to do with democrats being down pretty far down when it comes to chances to hold on to united states senate i think this is wholy about trying to terrify female voters and democratic donors in early going to creatorents of cash to pour forward for harry reid's super pack to go across the country then say of republican

candidates, even those that want to have the pill available to say to those people these cavemen and want to lurk in your gynecologist's office and take rights away from you. i think that trumps anything close to the truth. i think that is way more important down in the running than anything the fda said. >> and they're banking on no one doing the work it takes to disprove these misrepresentations am i wrong? washington post said politi fact called them when? after fox news took it on and challenged them to do it. >> you dared them, they did it. how about this? the president of the united states said i don't know how many times, a falsifying about how many people had signed up and how many people signed up for medicaid expanded under

obamacare. he just used it. you said that is not true. everybody said that is not true. is it pinocchio's noses came out. and liar, liar meter out there. do you know what he said? the same thing over and over again. talking over critics and being amplified by the media. >> a mraud politfact. >> earlier i talked to glenn beck for his take. here is some of that. >> good to see you tonight. >> how are you? >> not only is the left mischaracterizing the left's ruling because they need a narrative out there, but they're hyperpole has gotten to the point the green family that, owns hobby lobby has been protested and demonized by large swaths of the left in this

country. >> i have to tell you. we don't do this to people who say my religion tells me i can't go to war. we never did that with the quakers we, you have a right to practice your religion. if kwur religion says i'm sorry. i can't provide an abortion for you. you have that right. and moreso, a right not to be demonized for it. and honestly, i know the green family well. i've been to hobby lobby to their corporate headquarters. it is one of the most incredible places i've seen the way they treat their workers and do business with each other, they're honest, fair, decent, good members of the community. and they're offering health care. just saying guys we believe that abortion is murder. if you don't, that is fine. but we do. and you can't force us to do

this. what kind of country do we live in where you have to be forced to violate your most-fundamental right of the practice of your religion? >> now, they want to argue about well, greens were wrong. these four drugs don't end a fertilized egg. they just prevent ovulation. it's come to that, glenn, which is false. fda in their own brief proved that is not true. but the government is the one that went in there and said these four drugs do end a fertilized egg. and in fact, many scientists believe. that is when life begins. when a sperm fertilizes an egg. >> may i just speak for all of america? this is why we love megyn kelly so much. >> i mean it's come to this. the question is whether that is all out of a deep need to prove to america that there is danger on the supreme court, or whether

this is born of a place of politicking. they're in trouble, mid terms are coming, they need a wedge issue. >> this is what america is talking about on both sides. at least i am really tired. i'm so done with the left and right and talking points of both republicans and democrats. i'm so done with the boogie man. with me, with the president, the president is, does not, i choose he does not play a role in my life. he doesn't. i'm not upset with him anymore. i'm not going to, i have my set of beliefs. he has his. that is fine. i am going to stand for the principles that i have, that he's not going to control my emotions anymore. he's not going to play on my emotions. it's so devicive what's happening to us. megyn i said on your show,

people say what did you mean by that? we all play a role we all play a role in the deviciveness or uniting of the country. every day, every word we choose. me, you at home. and we just have to say no more. i'm not going to my that game. i'm not going to play into your fear mongering. i think there are really bad people in washington people that want to destroy the united states of america. >> really? >> around the world and some of them, here as abraham lincoln said to destroy us it would have to be national suicide by not paying attention, we're engaging in national suicide i will tell you this. i'm going to stand for my principles, just like the greens have stood their theirs i'm in the going to play this political game anymore. >> well, i also asked glenn beck

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vehemence directed at me and the president. people talk about taking their country back. there's a certain racial component for some. i don't think that's the main driver, but for some there's a racial annimous. >> earlier i asked glenn beck for his take on that? >> i am so deeply saddened by eric holder in the way he views his own office. he hasn't investigated the things that should be investigated. he's playing pure partisan politics here, this is the kind of thing i'm talking about where, let's not be divisive any more. let's not be divisive any more. for people to say that it's racist because we disagree with somebody's policies is nonsense. if you are judging a man by the

content of his character, it's not race iism and by looking ate pattern of eric holder's character, he's not a guy that views his office with a high regard to justice. >> to what extent do you think -- i know you studied the administration and american politics in general -- to what extent do you think eric holder speaks for president obama? >> they're very close. >> do you think he's the hand of the king? >> yes, i do. have you ever seen anybody get away with as much stuff or let the other side get away with as much stuff? i've never seen that in american politics. i've never seen investigation after investigation after investigation. they're still not looking into the fbi. nobody has talked to the tea party group in houston, nobody has talked to them in 15 months

from the justice department. now how does that happen. >> and with all due respect to my colleague at abc news, they didn't even touch on the irs. it's so rare to get the attorney general in an interview, i said many times that would be the number one person in the world i would like to interview. >> i would cuddle up with a gallon of ben and jerry's to watch that. >> i would love that. >> he's got him there and he doesn't ask about the irs controversy. it's a dereliction. let me circle back to the race remark, something else eric holder said, we need to be able to have this adult conversation about race in this country, defending his remarks from a couple years ago when he said we're a nation of cowards when it comes to race. many of his critics said, there he goes again, but what do you

think about it? you suggested that president obama didn't like white people and you took it back. do you think he had a point that we as a society are not capable of having an adult conversation about race rules -- >> megyn i don't want to -- i don't know eric holder at all. i haven't paid attention to him for quite some time, he doesn't have anything of value for me to hear. i know what he's going to say. he's not saying anything new. with that being said, i think the american people are invedably courageous. i think the only ones that i have seen. the ones who keep bringing race into it, are the ones who fought in the 1960s, one side or another, who lived through all of that. i'm 50, i didn't live through that. it was over by the time i became aware. we've never, my children don't

look at race as an issue. we believe in martin luther king's statement judge a man c. there's a generation of people who lived through that period that just cannot let go of it. either that or -- eric holder is probably about my age, or they've been raised to feel this way, i don't know, but i don't want to live in eric holder's world that -- where you believe that americans are cowards, that they do hate each other for race reasons. i don't know those people, i know they exist. >> of course they exist. >> i don't know those people. that's not what america is. >> that's the thing, he must be referring to some contingent in his mind or this debate wouldn't exist. we'll have much more with glenn

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to him. trace gallagher has that story from our west coast newsroom. >> jersey city police got a call for an armed robbery. lawrence campbell had no intention of robbing the store. he told a man in the parking lot to watch the news because he was going to be famous. campbell then waited for police to arrive and opened fire on the first squad car, killing a rookie police officer. the mayor of jersey city said this. >> i can't express how hard it is to see a body of a police officer come into the jersey medical center and have his mother identify that body and keep repeating the badge number and his name and that's not possible.

>> they built a candle with balloons, heart felt messages like rest easy, thug in peace and see you on the other side. the jersey city police officer's association responded saying, what kind of society do we live in where memorializing a violent murderer is acceptable. if they was going to stand over my husband and shoot him like a [ bleep ] dog, he should have took all of them the [ bleep ] out. the wife has now apologized and that memorial has been taken down, another tribute to the killer is going up two blocks away, there's also a memorial for officer santiago in front of the wall greens store. but so far that one is much smaller. megyn. >> trace, thank you. the government releasing stark new numbers from the

crisis on our southern border. more than 55,000 children have been detained since the beginning of the year, the administration says it was caught off guard nor all of us. others say the president has been planning on this for years. good to see you, dinesh. you had a meeting on your own book being booted out of costco. we'll get to that in a moment. let's start with your theory that president obama wanted this border chaos. why? >> you have hoards of people showing up at the border, women and children sick and hungry. why is this happening now? you can't say because there's poverty and need around the world, there's been poverty and need around the world since the time of the babalonians. are there revolutions swirling

up across central america that are coughing up refugees? no. what's changing is over here, the obama administration is not serious about enforcing the immigration laws, it doesn't particularly care to police the border tightly, and it wants to have amnesty at home so law breakers in this country go free. if those guys aren't particularly vigilant about their boarder, it's going to be a chance for us to get across. i think the obama administration. >> let me ask you this, the president and the white house say they have record numbers of deportations they say they have removed far more illegal immigrants than george bush did, for example. let's put that to the side. if your theory is correct urgs why would the president want this to happen. >> think of it this way, the main opposition to amnesty is

the republicans who say, listen if you want to discuss how we should deal with the immigration at home, let's first lock the border, you can't have a porous border and at the same time be debating the issue. we need to debate, what do we do with the illegals that are here. how do i thwart this strategy. the american middle class is fundamentally innocent and decent and you can always exploit the natural goodness of the american middle class for political ends. if you produce women and children sick, starving in need at the border, it's difficult for the american good will to say, turn those people out, we're not going to help you. just by preying on the goodness of the american people, obama is

able to force the hand of the immigration issue. and say, listen, either you give me amnesty or i'll start letting these people come across the border and there's nothing you can do about it. >> i know in your video, you speak to the relationship president obama may have had with saul olinsxi. >> this becomes a contest of power. now, power has always gone into two areas, those who have money and those who have people. we have nothing but people. >> one thing i've come to realize, any positive action for radical social change will have to be focused on the white middle class for the simple reason that this is where the real power lies. >> what is that showing us? >> what that's showing us is that he's saying you can use, if you will, the power of people to just swarm in this case the

border, and the american people will be defenseless against us, they won't know what to do about it, it's a form of social and political intimidation. i was at the border myself researching this film. i talked to a border guard and said, with all this surveillance our government is doing of its own citizens, why can't we spot people coming across the border. he says, oh, we spot them. he tells us move the camera. >> i want to ask you about your big meeting with costco. dinesh has a big movie out. they took the book out a month before the movie came out. they cut the book because it had lackluster sales, they didn't know you had a movie coming out that would boost the sales. what happened?

>> i met with the ceo, it was a very eye opening meeting i think they sort of expected me to come in jesse jackson style, with a bunch of demands. i may be well dressed, but i'm still impressed. what i said to them at the outset was i expected nothing. he said, you're making costco look bad i said no, i didn't do that, i wrote a book celebrating america. and you decided on the fourth of july to pull this book, you angered your own customers. there were tens of thousands of hits on your site screaming about this. i think the ceo said, yeah, in the last week i've done nothing but respond to my own members who are outraged by what costco

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new fallout tonight from a senate hearing on a sweeping new abortion bill. it would wipe out state level prolife laws. that brought out a strong response from witnesses like marsha blackburn, watch. >> this is a 3-d ultrasound of my grandson. i can see his hands, his arms, and i could see him peacefully resting in his mother's womb.

that's the wonder of science. that is life. our constitution does not put a qualifier on life. >> joining me now, patricia ireland, former president of the national organization for women. patrico see you here again. the critics say, had is go to open the door on late term aborti abortions, because the bill would allow late term abortions nationally, not just to save the mother's life, but to save the mother's health. >> well, the women's health protection act would knock down state restrictions that don't apply to other medical procedures and that don't promote women's health and safety women's health is important, and if in the good faith determination of a doctor a woman's health is at risk she

ought to be able to have an abortion. the controversy there is that some women abused that when it was allowed and would get a doctor to say, yes her health requires a late term abortion. and there happened in the case of dr. tiller who wound up murdered, that he was providing late term abortions based on health concerns, when you had a viable fetus growing in the third trimester, and no one really wants to return to those days, patricia, do they? >> well, i again think that women's health is important, while you want to talk about late term abortion. i want to talk about birth control and health screenings that these clinics provide. and the fact that -- >> that's not controversial. i mean, this -- >> it is, apparently. >> i didn't propose this bill, this is a bunch of democrats on

capitol hill a lot of them want it, do you not want this? >> i want what roe v wade required. that includes access to abortion when a woman's health is at risk. otherwise, the states can outlaw. >> in tiller's state, they had to have two certifying doctors that the woman's health justified the abortion of the viable fetus, a baby that's in there, perfectly healthy, by the way, perfectly healthy baby, could have been eight months along, yawning, kicking its feet, could be aborted because the mother got dr. tiller and any two other medical professionals say she need it. >> i don't think the politicians have a place in there. >> does the baby -- >> let me ask you, though, when

we have these laws in mississippi, which has enacted all of these restrictions. women's access to birth control but also health screenings are knocked out. >> what about the baby? i mean, at what point does the baby have any consideration. >> what about the woman. right, the woman has a lot of protection. you can't tell me a 9-month-old baby, if pregnant, 9 month in utero baby has no right? >> absolutely not. >> i mean, come on. >> roe versus wade set out parameters for where a woman's right to control her own life to make her own medical decisions. >> and -- >> no, roe versus wade is outweighed. >> you are ignoring planned pare parenthood. limits are okay on abortions, as long as they don't pose an undue burden. >> the reality is, after

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