johnathon turley is here. lots of comments about my bid on hobby lobby tonight. if you missed it go to facebook.com/megynkelly. welcome to hannity, this is a fox news alert. the influx of illegals crossing our southern border is now reaching a tipping point. former new york city mayor rudy julian any will be here to explain what president obama should be doing to secure the border. we turn to john roberts who got an exclusive ride along with the border patrol sector. john? >> good evening to you, there's all this talk in washington about secure the borders, secure the borders. we got a firsthand look at what a challenge that really is, we rode along with a chief of the rio grande valley sector. he has 300 miles of weaving, winding river that he has to

protect. hundreds of places on the mexican side for illegal migrants to cross into the river. many places on the american side for them to hide out until they get caught by the border patrol or move further inland. there are some places in the river where it only takes a rubber raft eight seconds to get across. there's a problem with stopping people as well. the boats running up the river, a deterrent for people who don't want to get caught, for the thousands of central american migrants whose goal is to get caught, it's likely they'll get to the american side. >> trying to interdikt on the waters. it's not something we typically do, you wouldn't want to see somebody sink and drown. this river is dangerous. unless, you know, mexico and honduras and guatemala are our partners in controlling their borders and checking people leaving their country. >> chief oakes told me the border patrol cannot do this

through law enforcement alone, it's got to be a combination of things. removing these illegal aliens in diplomacy to try to keep people from leaving in the first place. there was a growing course of voices on capitol hill, though, including that of texas republican congressman steve stockman who believes the strongest signal that the president could make is to stand up and say the border is closed to illegal immigration, those who come here illegally won't stay, and will quickly be sent back to their home countries. >> they take their life savings, five to seven thousand. would you want to risk your life savings going over treacherous terrain knowing you will come right back here? no, you won't. that's the message we want to send. >> there's a lot of criticism for that position. they have claim to their lives being in danger in their home countries. this is almost an intractable

problem and there's no easy solution. >> john, and by the way, i was down there last week, you know that the miles of border here, where that crossing level is so short is pretty massive, a lot of ground to cover. >> oh, yeah. it's huge. and you don't fully understand it, sean until you come down here. i came down here a month ago for my first visit. my producer came down here and said, wow! i have a completely different perspective on the story now after being on the ground, it's so tough. >> it's true. they're doing a great job. they need more boots on the ground, so to speak. unfortunately, the chaos on the border is not confined to texas, as we saw last week in california, protesters are lining the streets of their respective towns to block illegals from entering. the latest protest is taking place in oracle, arizona where federal officials were expected to dump dozens of unaccompanied immigrant children. no buses with illegals actually arrived in oracle today so were

these profests successful? >> sheriff, welcome back, good to see you, sir. >> thanks for having me back. >> i'm watching it, reminiscent of what we saw in murrieta, california. and we keep hearing from the governor of iowa, new mexico, and other governors, don't send them here. but they're not even getting any notice that they're sending imgrands into these states. what's going on there? >> that's exactly what happened here, literally with secrecy when it was promised transparency, jay johnson testified before congress last week, and one of the senators had asked him, if in fact they're coordinating with state and local authorities, and he said, that's my directive that must happen. i can tell you for a fact that didn't happen here, i had two whistle blowers call me directly and say, sheriff, you need to be aware of 40 to 60 of these

unaccompanied juveniles, being flown from texas to arizona, and they're coming to your county. and so i called the group home, it's a facility of boy's ranch in oracle, and they did confirm that these kids were enroute this week. my problem is, we don't know who they are. we do know for a fact that there's been a number identified in texas through the screening that have gang affiliations with ms 13, i'm saying as the local sheriff, i have enough problems fighting the drug cartels with my deputies and immigration here, we do not need unaccompanied juveniles flown into our state compliments of president obama. >> i've known you for a number of years now, and i know how hard the job is that you have, and i know year outnumbered and many of the agents are underpaid, i would argue. now you also have the threat of your agents scabies and lice and tb and pneumonia. even one report now of swine flu. so there are health issues.

i talked to the border patrol union, they're saying a lot of these agents won't even go home after a day's work, they go to a hotel for fear they might be bringing these things home to their families. >> exactly. and the 60,000 today, what's predicted to be 90,000 on october 1st, the very hope was realized when they made it to the border, president obama welcomed them with open arms, and this is a signal to the millions and millions yet to come that if you make it to the border, literally you're home free. the law applies to me and you and every other american citizen, when it comes to people from foreign countries who disrespect our laws and process to come here, there are no consequences. there's no immigration law any longer. and we're shouted down to made to feel like somehow we're unamerican, and we're betraying the proud history of a nation of immigrants. we want this done legally, we want the rule of law to be

enforced, and what i've called for with christine jones is to have 1200 armed soldiers in arizona deployed to the border in january to secure the border, because a federal government has not shown any willingness to do it themselves. and that's their job. >> all right, sheriff, good to see you again, thank you so much for being with us. >> good to see you, sean. here to discuss how he thinks we should secure this country's borders, rudy giuliani. good to see you. i was down and i got a briefing the day after rick perry, the governor of texas met with the president. the briefi ining i think the president should have had. you have people from pakistan, afghanistan and yemen they're catching, and they're convicted of murder, robbery, kidnapping and rape.

>> the focus has always been on the immigrants who come in and they work and work on farms. that isn't really the focus, the people can walk over the border and we don't know who they are, anybody can walk over the border. >> that's a good point. >> we've always kept the focus on the wrong thing. an insecure border, a border that children can walk across or people who just want to work, well, terrorists can walk across. drug dealers can walk across it, and murderers, people who want to commit crimes. and, of course, when they hear things like this, the border is so insecure, they're invited to do, and they are doing it. >> i looked at the 9/11 commission report and said, this is where we need to start homeland secure security is right there at the border. >> the only way you're going to stop it, you need a physical presence on the border that stops people from coming in. it can be the border patrol, by increasing it by thousands or the national guard or whatever, but they have to be -- there has to be a physical presence at the border that stops people from

coming in, if they don't have the proper papers. the proper identification, the way almost every other -- certainly every civilized lawful country in the world requires. this is what mexico requires. >> mexico -- >> maybe we should borrow from mexico? >> they lecture us all the time, what do they do to illegal immigrants from central america. >> they send them right back. >> or put them in jail. >> they try to stop you from coming across their border. it also has to do with health. if you don't check people at the border, well, you're going to spread communicable diseases. >> happening. >> the reasons for border patrol are sensible reasons that protect you against the most dangerous people that can sneak in if you have an open border. and there should be no argument about this, everyone -- whatever their view is on what happens to other illegal immigrants or people who are here already, no matter what your views are on that, everybody should be in favor of the secure border that makes certain that when you come in, you're properly identified.

>> the president wants this $3.7 billion. he's lecturing everybody, that hen watts a supplemental, blaming republicans, lashing out at them, only 400 million of the 3.7 billion would actually go to border security. so does that make any sense to you in. >> no, what he should do is what most presidents do, whether it's bush or clinton or reagan, you make a deal. so you want the money for the -- really he wants the money to relocate these children. give them the money for very, very secure border so at least they can assure this isn't going to happen again or continue, the president doesn't seem to be willing to do that. >> aren't there two things we can do now? the 2008 provision that was designed to stop the sex trafficking of children from central america. fix that provision in the law so we can send them back right away. secure the border permanently so this is no longer -- >> the whole rationale for that law has nothing to do with this. these are -- these children aren't being sent here because of sex trafficking -- if they

are, there's a small percentage of them. this whole thing is being done in order to get benefits in the united states. and the reality is, you've got to stop this, if you don't stop this, then whatever you think of the children coming, other people will get in with them. other people will be able to come in through an insecure border. >> let me go back to the people that are crossing the rio grande from yemen, syria, pakistan and afghanistan. i got this in a secure briefing. that -- why would you ever want to cross there if you're from those countries? what does that tell you? where does your heart and mind go. that is where terrorists would likely come from? >> isn't it an advertisement to terrorists, when they read this and hear how insecure these borders are, it gives you a game plan of how to get into this country without getting detected. it's totally crazy, we are advertising to the world, come here. hey, you can come in and nobody's going to check you. >> unbelievable. mr. mayor, always good to see

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as we witness chaos around the globe, including iraq, syria. questions are being raised about president obama's foreign policy. josh earn et pressed the white

house secretary on that topic. >> in gaza, you've been asked about today, the ongoing civil war in syria, no one can say these are all the president's fault, but he's dealing with all them. the story says, u.s. global power seems increasingly tenuous to deal with all these challenges. my question is, how does the white house react to the notion that the president is a bystander to all these crisis? >> i think there have been a number of situations in which you've seen the president intervene, which has substantially furthered american interests and improved the -- you know, the tranquility of the global community. >> tranquility? really? here with more on this important exchange, the man himself, fox's own ed henry, is there any specifics that they can point to? i'm obviously a conservative, i'm a critic of the administration, is there anything objectively they

pointed out to say, this is where that tranquillity is? >> they tried to point to syria, which is a mixed bag, remember, when i asked the president in a recent news conference, what is the obama doctrine, what is the guiding principle after nearly six years in office, he said it's caution, youen cat make a major mistake a column in the washington post today said the president is grounding into double plays. i think josh ernest's point, when it comes to syria, the action the president took forced president assad to turn over his chemical weapons. and that did calm things down, john carl followed up, and said, look, can you really say that things are tranquil in places like syria now, listen? >> i would acknowledge readily that there's a lot of conflict and instability in hotspots all over the globe, but it is not eliminated the united states's ability or the president's

ability to look out for and even advance american interests in a variety of regions across the globe. >> that's their case, it was the president's own attorney general on sunday who basically said that his greatest fear during his time in office, is the fact that right now, undetektsible bombs and devices might be smuggled in from syria, into america, because that civil war is still going on, we've seen isis grow not just in syria, but spread into iraq as well. >> it's interesting, that answer was significantly different from the answer that you got about a substantially improved tranquillity, in my opinion many let me ask you another thing, it seems that the white house press core is getting a little tougher on the administration, there was an exchange today with our colleague wendell gohler. let me play that. >> was the president enjoying himself in his photo op this

afternoon? >> was in good spirits today. >> he said he doesn't like photo ops and he looked like he was having a good time. >> i think his problem is people who put photo ops ahead of other priorities. >> last week the president was trying to make the point, this is about substance, not photo ops that's why he didn't go to the border, today wendell was referring to the fact that the president was in this self-driving car, a chance for him to get behind the wheel at some technology exhibit, and that was a photo op as well. but the president thought that was okay, because it enabled him to make a point about how he wants more highway funding, republicans are not doing enough. when there's a chance for the president to use a photo op that will help him, that's what he's going to do. last week, though, he didn't like the fact that if he did a -- what might be seen as a photo op on the border it might blow up in his face, the crisis

is blowing. >> ed, for once in my life, i will restrain from comment. i'll let it speak from itself. a convergence of security crisis is playing out around the globe from the palestinian territories, iraq, ukraine to the south china sea. posing a serious challenge to president obama's policy. the global instability now unfolding hasn't been seen since the late 1970s. here with reaction, lieutenant colonel ralph peters. i read that article, and i kind of said to myself, wow! i thought it was very hard hitting, and when you think about it colonel, i cannot think of an area where foreign policy has been a success.

>> things are pretty quiet with canada. >> does it do anything to create that tranquillity? >> no. we have -- you often hear people say, obama's the worst president ever. it sounds like hyperbole. in the foreign policy and security spheres, without doubt speaking as a student of american history, without doubt, obama is by far the worst foreign policy and security president we've ever had. we have never before had such a combination of pervasive, extensive failures on every congressty nent. i think you have to go back to this. obama came back to office in 2009. in foreign policy, he saw america and the west and

certainly israel as the problem. or the cause of the problems. and islamic extremism has effects. but the world's more complicated than that. i always go back to, peter 41. when america is week, the world suffers. and i will tell you, america has not been this week in my lifetime. even jimmy carter, looks relatively strong by comparison on two fronts. one carter had a strong sense of morality and ethics, personal and professional ethics, he respected the office of the presidency. and second, carter was willing to learn as others have pointed out, by the end of his presiden presidency, he had wised up. there's no sign obama is wising up, he seems to be disappointed in the world, not just america, but the whole world has let him down. >> you know, that is a stinging review. i mean, you're a serious sober

analyst, i would even argue it's more pervasive than that, in as much as if america's not there, who's going to lead the world, he was uniquely qualified to unite the western world or the muslim world, that hasn't worked out well, and the tide to recede, that hasn't happened. if you add being the worst economic president, you know, i think things are really rough right now, colonel. >> and they are. and you know, it's very important to make one point here, thiss nothing for conservatives or conservative leaning independents to take delight in, don't gloat over obama's failures, this is about foreign policy, security and the future of our country and the well being of the entire globe. this is serious stuff, not just politics, and you look at the litany of obama's disastrous failures, russia -- when is the last time you heard anyone talk about putin giving back ukraine. we had that catastrophic nuclear

deal, where we gave away important systems, russians gave up junk that was headed for the stockpile. then you have iran, iran nuke's, they're playing us like a violin. iraq, the rise of a callifate state. syria, 180,000 dead, although no one knows how many for sure. you have south sudan tragedies nobody even hears about. i mean, the list goes on and on. north korea, china is belligerent. you can throw a dart at the map of the world and venezuela, how about that? how are we doing down there, folks? central america? our own southwest border which is certainly a security issue, and it's -- alm if this president wants to change america anyway he can, including opening our borders. >> i can't say it any better, a stinging review. thank you. good to see you. a foreign policy feud is

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welcome back to hannity, there's chaos around the globe. a feud is growing among leaders of the gop, in terms of our what our foreign policy should be. should we avoid foreign intervention and focus on critical issues here at home? here to give us his take is rand paul. how are you? >> good, john, thanks for having

me. >> let me go to rick perry. he says rand paul's brand of isolationism would compound the threat of terrorism even further, he said, it's disheartening to hear fellow republicans such as senator rand paul suggest that our nation should ignore what's happening in iraq. i'll give you a chance to respond. i think this is a healthy debate, i don't think this -- >> it might be healthy, but that sounded like a bunch of name calling to me, i'm happy to talk about the specifics. i think the situation with isis has become worse, because they had a terrorist wonderland in syria where they're organizing and coming up into iraq. one of the curious things about isis is, the one country that's bombing them and trying to put them out of business, it's sy a syria. we're supporting islamic rebels in syria against them. what i would say to people who want to criticize me and call me names is, do they want to have troops back in. the iraqis stripped off their

uniforms and ran. wouldn't defend their cities and you want our g.i.'s to get on the ground and fight? what is the government calling for? does he want troops on the ground in iraq? i think that's a mistake. >> it would be healthy and good for the country to hear both sides of any debate. i did have a disagreement with you -- and i discussed it a little bit the last time you were on the program, you didn't blame obama for fallujah and tikrit and all these cities are falling, that our brave men fought and died for. >> i don't say i don't blame obama, i do blame obama for emboldening isis and syria, by giving arms to the syrian islamic rebels. i do blame him for that. >> you don't blame him for what is happening in iraq. >> well -- >> hold on. you said at war we shun the abandon it? >> i did say, also, that his speech at west point where he said that jihadists and

terrorism are on the wane, i don't agree with that. but i do say that his war in libya, and arming of islamic rebels in syria, have made the jihadists emboldened, they're more numerous and they are more of a threat to america. it's unfair for people like governor perry to say, i'm ignoring the situation. i'm very conscious of this, not only that, i think the primary responsibility, the federal government is to defend our country and to defend our interests. and i have said that maliki is an ally, the government of iraq is an ally, and we will support them. troops on the ground is a mistake, and it's a very confusing -- >> i'm not -- i blame obama in this way, we had those cities, we had an emerging democracy. albeit not perfect, but emerging, i think the mistake we made was president obama's mistake. we politicized the war, and the president ran on it, and he didn't see it through. america's going to send men and women to go fight, you have to

fight and win, and part of winning sometimes means that we should have stayed there to provide intelligence and training, and if we would have done that, i don't think we'd be in the situation today where we see these cities falling. >> the only place i would have a mild disagreement with you, shawn, i think we do still provide intelligence and training. >> no, we -- he pulled out. >> let me finish that. we trained the iraqis for a decade and they cut and ran. how long is it going to take these guys to figure out how to defend themselves. >> i think they will defend -- >> we still have a presence in germany, in korea. >> i don't think we're stopping war in either place, really. >> we still stayed there to do those two specific things, and i talked to a lot of generals, and seem to agree with me, that pulling out early was the big mistake that obama made, they politicized another war. >> right. but when you discuss a future, a future is always their alternate scenarios for future. for example, if we had had 1,000

troops in mosul, one possibility is, that they would have been overrun and we would be in a massive war, and we would be back in there. if we want to clean up the cities that have been taken, it would take the equivalent of a surge, the military surge does work, it would take 50 to 100,000 troops. i don't think the american people -- frankly, i think if you have 100 g.i.'s that are not allowed to do this, if they were, most of them would say they're not interested in going back to iraq. >> i have to say good night. appreciate it. coming up on hannity. >> you have a safe word, there can be tieing up and gagging involved, and someone's hurting you, and you can't communicate that -- >> right. and you're injured. >> yet another disturbing example of what planned parenthood employees are subjecting your teenaged kids to. we have more of that outrageous video coming up later. a makeshift memorial is made

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sexual advice about experimenting with her boyfriend from a littleton colorado planned parenthood office. what you're about to see and hear is very graphic. >> have you read the book 50 shades of gray? >> yeah. >> it's like that. >> you want to be safe, you want to have a safe word, because there can be like tieing up and gagging involved, and if someone's hurting you and you can't communicate that, you're injured. a lot of couples will have a safe word. like if i say dog, that means everything stops. have you ever been to a sex shop together? >> no, what is that? >> there's tons of sex shops, they carry different outfits, you want to role play a teacher or a nurse. they have outfits, whips, ties,

everything. >> higher now with the much more is a president. i wish you were here under different circumstances. did i just hear this correctly, if the person says stop, using a word like stop, people get mixed up. doesn't stop mean stop? >> it should. one out of every four women say they experience some kind of sexual assault. and this is a planned parenthood worker telling a teen girl that no doesn't mean no in sexual situations and she should have a safe word. >> can i understand, we give half a billion dollars to planned parenthood tax dollars every year? >> yes. >> this girl's 15 years old, identifies herself as a 15-year-old. and she's getting bondage and s & m and asphyxiation and

tieing up and whipping. what gives this planned parenthood counselor a right to circumvent a parent's values and what a parent would want to instill in their kids. i don't think any parent wants their daughter learning about getting whipped? >> that's the normal response. but we've given planned hasn'thood power. they claim to be the leading sex educator for teenagers in our country. they have created a relationship with our schools to get in there and teach not justine agers but even grade schoolkids. we're the ones who are allowing this, and that's why we're calling on not just congress to defund them, but on people at the local level to get involved, because we should not be trusting our kids with this organization. >> there was another case, also in colorado, where a 13-year-old girl got an abortion at planned parenthood, and she walked in with an older man, her step dad? >> yeah, it's a heartbreaking

story. the lawsuit was filed in late june, this girl was sexually abused for years by her stepfather, and her mother wasn't aware of it, she became pregnant at the age of 13. the step dad took her into planned parenthood in denver and had the abortion. he filled out part of the paperwork for her, they clearly had different last names and not a single one of them reported the sexual abuse. >> how does a 13-year-old get an apportion without parental consent. and some guy that likely got her pregnant gets to sign the papers. how does that happen? >> it happens because planned parenthood regularly denies reporting laws, they refuse to follow them or fight against them in the legislatures. they rubber stamp or they try to ignore the consent part of this, their interest is not protecting these girls. their interest is abortion and pushing a sexual ideology that's

very dangerous on our teenagers. they're killing over 320,000 children a year at planned parenthood in our country. is this the way they're treating young girls and covering up sexual abuse and pushing dangerous practices on young girls. >> we'll continue to follow the investigation of yours. coming up my next guests are from the pro life group called created equal. last week while expressing their rights, they were viciously attacked. all of this is caught on tape, another video you have to see to believe. we have to warn you, this is very graphic. >> i do not want to see this -- it does not look like that, it looks like [ bleep ] no hands are shown. that doesn't stand for women's rights. get that camera out of my face. >> you are a male,

privileged. >> i'm calling the police right now. >> you are a racist [ bleep ] as well. how dare you do this kind of [ bleep ] you don't give a [ bleep ] about women or life. all you are is just a bunch of [ bleep ]. >> here to explain what he just witnessed in that video from creative eagle seth drayer and mark harrington. i guess it's self-evident, were any charges filed in that? >> yeah, there are charges waiting, the arraignment is this week, it was a normal day downtown. we train students to present the case for life in the public square, showing the victims of abortion visually and she approached and starting yelling at our inturn. that's why i approach ed her an she started to verbally and physically attacking me as well. >> you don't give a [ bleep ] about women? that's kind of what the left does with this argument, if

you're against abortion or government funded birth control, that's part of a war on women. and she seems to -- >> right, depengenders don't ha arguments people do. our argument will rise and fall on the merits of our position, she obviously took this personally, and we teach our people, sean, to try to diffuse these types of confrontations. >> he didn't do anything wrong, he just stood there. >> exactly. >> unfortunately in this case, she went over the top. >> why do you think it always is reduced to war on women you're racist, you're this, you're that? >> i think it's because they lost the argument and they don't know where else to turn other than to shout us down and get angry about it. we are into -- we are a nonviolent passive resistance organization. we try to teach our people to

diffuse these situations. we believe in forgiveness, both seth and i are christians we've already forgiven her. if she doesn't apologize, we're going to continue to press these charges and we'll see where it goes from there. >> thank you, both, and we appreciate it. people need to be aware of what's going on out there in the streets. this rookie new jersey cop, jersey city cop was ambushed and killed over the weekend. some supporters of the accused have made a makeshift memorial for the cop killer. and the wife of a cop killer says, well, he should have taken down more police officers. really? juan williams weighs in on this disturbing story. that and more as hannity continues. 3rd and 3. 58 seconds on the clock, what am i thinking about? foreign markets. asian debt that recognizes the shift in the global economy. you know, the kind that capitalizes on diversity across the credit spectrum and gets exposure to frontier and emerging markets.

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