times if i was taking care of them. we'll see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." i'm andrea tantaros. here today, harris faulkner, sandra smith, jedediah bila, today's hashtag one lucky guy tucker carlson and he is outnumbered again. >> profoundly. >> flew in from maine just for us. >> yes i did. >> are you happy about that? >> i woke up early with you on my mind. not the first type. [laughter] >> i woke up with you on my mind. i like it. >> we usually save that for later in the hour, tucker. >> i woke up with this on my mind because we have to talk about. so i got email very early. house republicans taking their big step in speaker john boehner's lawsuit against president obama. they're holding a hearing that could give the speaker the right

to sue the president over changes in implementation of obamacare. chair pete sessions. >> under president obama the executive branch has increasingly gone beyond the constraints of the constitution. in fact in a number of instances the president has gone beyond his article 2 powers to enforce the law and has infringed upon article i powers of congress to write the law. >> at the same time house democrats who are calling speaker boehner's lawsuit, an election season gimmick, gathering on the steps of the capitol to reveal their plan to retake the house. ou consider the history that democrats are up against. the party of a two-term president usually loses seats at this point of the presidency. house minority leader nancy pelosi. >> republicans are inside wasting time and taxpayer money on partisan lawsuits against the president. republicans are about process. democrats are about progress.

republican process, democratic progress. democrats -- [applause] >> you can count on the white house having fellow democrats backs. the administration saying republicans are standing in the way of common sense measures like boosting minimum wage, guaranty equal pay or reducing the cost of going to college. press secretary jay carney. -- josh earnest. >> you've seen a steady, consistent drumbeat from congressional republicans opposing common sense measures time and again that the president and other democrats advocated. at risk of sounding like a character on a police drama, republicans have a little bit of a rap sheet when it comes to blocking common sense proposals that would benefit middle class families. >> all right. i want to get right to this lawsuit, tucker. because there is some competing schools of thought, even in the republican party. do you think that this lawsuit by john boehner about executive orders, specifically the

employer mandate is an election-year gyp mick, or do you think this is legitimate constitutional issue that should be pursued? >> i can't get past what josh earnest said, if republicans were smart and stop everything, address that one point. obama presided over destruction of the middle class. what is the carried interest exemption is still in place? why have earnings remained stagnant or gone down for middle class families? unbelievable he could say that without being challenged. will this good idea or not? i'm skeptical. one year the president's party gained was 1998. the cons guess has constitutional authority to defund things it shouldn't like. that is the way it should deal with owe overreach in my opinion. >> what do you think about that, sandra, if the employer mandate was so terrific why would white house keep delaying it and delaying isn't but as a political issue should

republicans be going. >> i've been as skeptical as tucker has, i challenge anybody, look what the consequences would be of a boehner gop win in this lawsuit. could, "politico" explored this in their five big points on this lawsuit, saying this could backfire on the gop. if they were to win here, you could likely see burdened and higher costs on businesses as a result of this at a time where they weren't expecting it. and you could see that going forward as well. so could this, i think there is skepticism in the right places here but it could backfire on the gop. i think that is something to keep in mind as we continue to watch it go forward. >> i think is legitimate issue. president obama has been extra constitutional president. he tested limits of executive power. my concern if we get a president down the road the precedent is set. this is noteworthy. obamacare is not popular and neither is executive overreach. >> that's a great point but i fear the republicans will not be

able to make that argument as well as you. >> no confidence in the gop, jedediah. >> when it comes to messaging and communication, why we're doing this. my fear, barack obama will run away and play victim and look like political theater. people will say why are you bothering this? get down to the nitty-gritty and barack obama will run with the line. if the republican party were able to successfully market that idea and communicate why they're doing this with massive executive overreach and i had confidence i might think i would take another position but today i don't. >> harris, you're one of our top news anchors here. >> god bless you. >> you follow media. a lot of news outlets are covering this lawsuit by john boehner t made some of the morning shows. do you think this could penetrate and resonate with americans? >> this is one of the ways that you, you know, would deal with a president that you feel either broken the law, acted untoward, whatever your feelings are, you do this, you impeach. you have to say which one has the most merit?

where can you go down the road? there is a lot of argument impeaching president, based on things like handling of benghazi investigation, that there are some "fast & furious" investigation, there are some other ways that republicans could have gone after him. i do question kind of timing though. it just sort of shook out this way. just yesterday republicans in the house passed the highway funding bill. so it sort of looks like they're ready to do at least a little bit of something with the president. it is unfortunate because it sort of looks like, gosh, could they get along? but the other point is how much money will we pay as taxpayers for this lawsuit? i'm curious about that. republicans will have to make a really good, consummate argument about why this is good idea, particularly if they lose and costs us money for them to lose. >> but, tucker, isn't it important, even though there will be cost for this, to express the importance, measure this out, why there needs to be lines delineated between executive branch and congress. >> it is not just important, it is vital.

this was the single thing that haunted the dreams of founders was overreaching executive. they didn't want a king, period. the whole system was designed, set up from the very beginning to prevent that from happening the assumption would be each branch act in its own interest and hold tightly to its prerogatives. congress for bunch much reasons hasn't done that. how did we get here in the first place? congress allowed this to happen. president, really? you're a coequal branch. i mean, be honest about it. >> do you think it is too late? >> i think people want a strong leader. i think the founders new that. you're fighting against human nature when you have divided government. this is so messy. they're arguing. get it done. that is the impulse leads for dictatorship. it is not democrat, republican, it is human thing and it is unfortunate. >> the interesting thing the democrats might embrace about the talk of lawsuit going on. at least it would be distraction. we'll turn to the immigration crisis on our southern border. the obama administration is set to make its sales pitch later today on capitol hill.

president obama as you probably know wants billions of dollars to help respond to thousands of children crossing into our nation from central america and mexico, crossing over that border. meanwhile there is bipartisan proposal from republican proposal from senator john cornyn and congressman henry cuellar. the president is dismissing it. our border is secure. >> as i've been told the cornyn-cuellar issue covers other issues. had we done comprehensive immigration reform we wouldn't have this issue. everyone here, the border is secure. martin heinrich talked to the caucus today. he is, border state senator. he said he can say without any equivocation that the border is secure. >> wow. reid's comments, mystifying,

syndicated columnist charles krauthamer. >> when you get harry reid saying border is secure. >> definitely. >> you have to wonder whether he is on medication or not. that is so detached from reality. >> then there is this. the pope, pope francis is weighing in on what our country is doing with its democracy, if you can believe it on this issue. the pontiff is calling for urgent intervention to protect tens of thousands of children who cross the border themselves. the pope is weighing in. tucker? >> well, i'm as an after individual protestant i will take a pass on pope thing. if he is weighing in on humanitarian crisis, good for him. i think that his role. >> we're supposed to be beacon for around the world. >> we are. democrats are not even preending anymore. they want more people in the country, more low-wage workers. it helps their donors who are rich. it helps their donors, helps their voting baseballs these will become mostly democratic

donors. one thing reid said, immigration reform this wouldn't have happened, if we pass that bill we would have more low-wage workers coming into the country than we do now. >> talk a little bit about the bill. andrea, it is 3.7 billion right now. it has grown in the last couple weeks. it could be bigger as time goes on. 1.billion of that is for care and feeding provisions for these children -- 1.8. for the children who came unaccompanied illegally into this country. republicans are expressing their concern the president isn't trying to fix the problem because you've got such a huge chunk of that money going to care for the kids rather than getting them back, so on, so forth. >> that's right. if he wants to fix the problem. very simple solution. seal the border and amend the 2008 law that would make it applicable the same way it makes it applicable for mexican illegal immigrants to be deported in rapid fashion. they're not fixing this i'm sick and tired of harry reid, gossip hearsay politics. i heard through a friend of a friend. like my sorority house.

my friend told me in the bathroom -- not interesting as gossip we used to pass along. it is not true. we know what mitt romney paid in taxes. harry reid is saying i heard from a friend of friend. visionals of illegal immigrants getting on rafts floating to america flies in the face. that will backfire. people see the footage. trying to turn texas blue, harry reid. think again. >> people are watching pictures, andrea. "gallup poll" actually released today, 17% of the american people now rate the immigration problem as the nation's top problems, okay? that number has tripled since june. ranks above unemployment and concerns about economy in the united states. talk about harry reid and charles krauthamer calling him out of touch or detached from reality, harry reid is not only detached from reality in the situation, detached in reality what the american people want and concerned about and what their needs are.

>> what the border actually looks like. it is 1189 miles. we secured at last check, 651 miles of that. if you're spending a billion to help build more fence line, harry reid is not paying attention. how can it be secure when you have so many holes? >> he is telling you what he wants to do. he wants to deal with the narrow issue. he wants to deal what is happening right now. take care of the kids. he is not interesting in dealing with broader issue of border security. they're not interested in making sure this does not happen again. this is not part of the plan, something they will not get behind. >> secretary of state john kerry getting some flak today, saying he does not like it when politicians call the united states exceptional. well, what is wrong with that? we are special. plus, hillary clinton sits down with jon stewart and hints, hmmm, was it a hint or something else, at a possible 2016 run. what she said that is getting a lot of attention. right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web. join us for "outnumbered" overtime. ot, by logging on to

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." secretary of state john kerry getting a lot of flak for remarks he made about american exceptionalism while overseas, telling a group of embassy staffers in vienna, quote, i always get a little up tight when i hear politicians say now exceptional we are, not that we're kind of exceptional but it is in your face. a lot of other people are exceptional. a lot of other people do exceptional things. but from there he seems to shift gears but at same event he says this, we're exceptional in certain way no other nation is. the idea was expressed in the declaration of independence and in our constitution. the idea people are created equal and all people have a chance to aspire for greatness for anything they want. pretty amazing, right. but kerry's earlier remarks getting a blistering response on the house floor where republican louie gohmert could barely contain his aingeer. >> america is an exceptional nation and we're losing that expect al status.

the united states has gotten much weaker in world opinion under this president. >> all right. tucker, well, kerry walked his comments back a little bit as you can see but do his comments bother you about american exceptionalism, and are you surprised? >> i live with a lot of people like that. a lot of people think america is faintly embarrassing that belgium is exceptional. they live on my street. watch pbs. i don't have a problem with that but if they run the government, why would you put someone like that in charge of a major government agency. if the head of home depot said we're just another hardware store, not pass good as some, better than others. i want home depot to say that they sell the best two by fours in america. don't work there. >> andrea, this remind me of barack obama in 2009 on first overseas trip. i believe in american

exceptionalism such as i expect the british believe in british extension exceptionalism, and greece believes in greek exceptionalism. >> this is pretty amazing mind-set. if america is so average, why are so many people jumping walls, thousands of people are jumping over walls and parachuting into the united states of america over our borders? we are exceptional. that is why people want to come here. you don't see it other way. nobody is jumping out of airplanes in san salvador. nobody is trying to float down the rio grande. anyone who knows history knows, we are the nation that freed the world from tyranny. >> amen. >> we built europe. places like germany and japan. then we went the extra step to trade with them. >> yep. >> you about the left-wing mind set is, let's all be d-list, right? let's all be equally average. and look, if you try and you fail, you get obamacare, you get food stamps, government cities stance. let's all be, i don't know, basic. >> harris, when people hear

these comments do you think they're bothered as much as some of us are. >> americans? yes. >> or are they agreeing with the president in a way? >> americans i can't imagine they wouldn't be bothered. this is anathema that we are exceptional. look around the world. andrea i see anybody trying to get out, even edward snowden wants to come back. a the least what i read. maybe he wants to stay longer in russia but isn't the goal to come back here? i think so. at end of the day you see secretary kerry walk his words back. how did he do that? he couldn't get away from one thing. we're free! forget about it. we're expect al. >> we question, over the course of the last few years, have we been losing our status as a superpower? take a hint. is there something he knows that we don't. i view his comments insult to the history, the cultures within the united states. to our geography. the thanks that make us

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>> welcome back toout you numbered. -- to "outnumbered." new hints from former secretary of state hillary clinton that she will run for the white house in sift system. she was on "the daily show." she admits like having a home office. this exchange with host jon stewart. >> do you have a favorite shape for that home office? [laughter]. you like that office, would you like that office -- would you like that corners, with not to have corners, i don't know? [laughter] >> you know, i think that the world is so complicated, the fewer corners that you have the better. [cheers and applause] >> clinton was also asked about those comments she made about being, remember, dead broke. >> well, you know, that was

inartful use of words. obviously. bill and i worked really hard and we've been successful. i'm really grateful for that. >> right. >> what i worry about, and i talk about this in the pock, i'm worried that other people, particularly younger people will not have the same opportunities we did. >> andrea, is she running? >> i don't know if she is going to run but certainly not made any improvements from her other interviews. really? we're really successful r they dead broke or are they successful? she is not able to articulate a message at all. then she goes into income inequality which is not a winner for her. it also means that she has to judge her former boss. if she is going to take that tact and talk about income inequality, she will have to acknowledge, her boss, president obama made it worse and didn't do anything to fix it. it is classic clinton but kind of amazing to watch. >> she came out and said i will not stop guarding my statements. i will put it all out there. there was nothing about this interview where she put it all out there.

we've been saying she has to own the success and own the wealth her family has. tell people you can do it too. >> really you can do it too? what is explanation for that? i think it is disgusting, taking 100 grand from a public university, are you broking? for 45 minute boring speech. >> i don't think that is her problem. it is university. >> former secretary of state. she has right to earn money. >> earn money. think what that means. making 100 grand over 45 minutes and look in camera, and suck up, answer questions we worked really hard in self-righteous way. >> we want you to believe something different. >> argue for taxing the rich and argue for redrib sun -- >> she took more money from wall street than any person in the united states senate. i think she, elizabeth warren has reason to run. her views are repugnant to me, elizabeth warren but she has them, has views. >> interesting you bring them up.

i want to say this about elizabeth warren. she has a website, not her, people who want to have her run. ready for warren. they have a twitter page on her behalf, they can articulate her accomplishments, people behind hillary clinton had some difficulty doing. jedediah? >> back a year ago talking to my friend in media and otherwise on the left and talking about hillary clinton, they were bringing up elizabeth warren. a long time ago before any of us were even saying on air or having a conversation because they don't believe that hillary clinton is an ally. they don't believe she is a champion of left-wing causes. she is not in cahoots with the occupy wall street crowd. not fit to talk about income inequality and doing terrible job. they don't feel she will be ally. many people on the left, feel barack obama betrayed them and wasn't ally in the white house the way they envision she would be. they feel like elizabeth warren will be. that could be a huge problem for hillary clinton and left will

rally around her. >> i don't know how much you watch. >> only when i'm on it. >> it was pretty much a softball for her. to hear what andrea said, sheave didn't clean it up or improve in certain areas like the dead broke, it was kind of surprising. >> i don't know who is prepping her for those. i agree with andrea. doesn't seem like she is making strides. i went to the website, elizabeth warren website, i told tucker, i think it is scary the message putting out there, people launching the website. they're saying we need somebody who is not afraid to take on powerful interests like wall street banks. you list these as her accomplishments, tucker? these are her accomplishments? demonizing wall street, demonizing success. we're not wealthy, we're not well-connected. >> hold on i'll tell you exactly why. by the way i don't share those views at all. i believe in the markets. on the other hand, i totally get where that is coming from. the center of the country is collapsing. income inequality is real. middle class is in desperate straitses that is all real and

nobody cares. >> elizabeth warren -- >> fallen to her. she is mediocre. she is dishonest. claimed to be american indian when she wasn't. on other hand she is only one saying this. there is massive opening for sensible pro-market people saying there is problem with the middle class. why don't republicans step in and own this? this is market for it. >> should hillary clinton be worried about elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren has appeal of regular person that can go out to people. she doesn't have the d.c. establishment edge. doesn't seem out of touch. she seems in step with causes she believes n. same thing with barack obama. many people felt she he believed what he was saying why he is beat hillary clinton. >> she seems to me crazy and credibility problem. she will not have the money that hillary clinton has. you need money to run for president. you need the network. that is the problem. hillary is terrible candidate but she does have a ton of support. >> as we talk about the

struggles of middle class how to address them, listen to this. americans spending a lot more money this summer but not on anything fun. sure the dow is through the roof. it is above 17,000, unemployment, it's down to 6.1% the lowest it has been since september 2008. apparently that doesn't matter to many americans. a new gallup poll showing more people increased their spending but its on essentials like their grocery, gas, rent, or mortgage. the stuff that they need. but when it comes to the fun stuff, leisure activity the and dining out, people are spending less money. in some case as lot less money. even though we're traveling more we're staying closer to home and traveling by car. so is federal rhee serve listening? people are dealing with inflation. surprise, surprise! >> exactly. that is the headline right there. >> they're not not dealing with it. >> they don't admit there is inflation. for rich people they don't notice. average person things he buys food and fuel, gone up a lot.

housing stock, education. >> this is part of the economy, we need to fuel this economy. >> i also think, here is my theory. people are playing catch up. we had so many people out of work for so long. even though they may not be gain fully as employed as few years ago. maybe they are piecing enough part-time jobs together to pay the rent again. they're playing catch up and pay for all the things they couldn't pay for a while. hard to justify leisure activity yet. >> they're not getting on airplanes. they're not going to hotels. >> they're getting on airplanes. they're getting on airplanes. yes, they are. >> i think they're petrified, sandra. i think 2008 frightened them. they lost their 401(k)s. there is lot of uncertainty out there. they see health care premiums going up, college going up. they're scared. they don't know what ask coming down the pike. it is very unpredictable. because of uncertainty they will not take a risk and take a vacation. >> there is disconnect in

washington when you look what are actually doing and what washington is telling us people are doing and dealing with. gas price, jedediah, are 20% higher than they were last summer. that is inflation. >> you are our economics expert. i actually want to shift and ask a question to you, why, this issue of inflation is key, why isn't it talked about and why isn't it talked about in a way regular people who are not business experts can understand what is happening here? >> when the fed looks at inflation they strip out food and energy, all the stuff we need. >> all stuff we pay for. >> volatile stuff. >> why do they do that? >> more volatile than anything else we spend our money on. there is lot of disagreement with that but that is the metric they use. >> does the fed not eat? >> quite frankly, inflation still hasn't reached, they're trying to reach inflation. it hasn't reached level they had predicted or wanted. >> they want this. >> they don't see it as a problem right now even though we're all opening up our pocketbooks and spending more on

food and gasoline. >> since we're talking about the money issue here, unemployment debt you never hear people talk about that. when you have been poor and suddenly get a job, it take a long time to catch up. that unemployment debt is a albatross around your neck. it is so hard. that people don't want to take part in leisure activities how do you justify that? >> people that do have a job, most polls they hold a job, they're fearful of losing that job. you don't spend money on fun stuff when that is the case. some are questioning press secretary josh earnest after he claims that president obama has improved the tranquilty of the planet. when even attorney general eric holder is calling these dangerous times. meanwhile, more airstrikes by israel after hamas rejected a cease-fire. israeli officials warning tens of thousands who live close to gaza-israel border to leave their homes. a live report from gaza city. right after the show turn to the web for "outnumbered"

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♪ >> possible conflicting message coming from the obama administration. white house press secretary josh earnest was asking about criticism that the u.s. is bistander as we see deepening crises around the world especially in syria. >> you've seen number of situations where you saw this administration intervene in meaningful way that substantially furthered american interests and substantially improved the, you know, the train quilt of the global community. >> do you really believe that this president's foreign policy has contributed to what you called, the tranquilty of the

global community? >> i think there are certain places where the united states, just on based on those three examples i cited before, where we can certainly site tangible progress in pursuit of american interests. ridding syria of chemical weapons and insuring they no longer proliferation risk clearly within the interests of the united states of america. resolving -- >> syria -- >> i didn't say that either. >> you heard that, right? syria equals tranquilty. compare that attorney general eric holder this week when asked about terrorist threats out of syria that the u.s. is facing right now. >> i think we are at a dangerous time. >> soupedded the alarm this week about americans and europeans going to syria. is this a clear around present danger? >> i think it is. in some ways it is more frightening than anything i think i've seen as attorney general. >> hmmm. okay. not the first time tucker, the administration has been on different pages but gaza, iraq,

libya, syria, egypt, i could go on. tranquilty? holder comes out and steps on message of earnest and says, not really, the most dangerous time -- >> some of those places we made it worse. libya, for example. at exactly the moment, it was like one good thing from the iraq war, qadaffi dearmed and we helped kill him. what was point of that exactly? we're now funding apparently, secretly the opposition or what goes by the opposition in syria. we have no idea if they have been rid of chemical weapons. there are not inspectors in syria. he is throwing that out there. there is no way to know that true. outrageous he would say that. >> even more frightening when you consider some syrian fighters are going to iraq. who knows what they're taking with them. >> but the mixed messages, and this happened before. we've seen the president say al qaeda is on the run and hillary clinton, after she left the state department, she said, the opposite. she said they're dangerous. then there was this exchange. there is a lost exchanges but we pull ad good one, james clapper contradicting him with jeh johnson, johnson first.

>> our government's counterterrorism efforts in both the bush and obama administrations, we have put al qaeda's core leadership on the path to defleet. >> is al qaeda on the run and on the path to defeat? >> no, it is, morphing and franchising itself, not only here but in other areas of the world. >> almost like -- >> which of one is it? how uncomfortable make you, the administration know how bad things are, which we could have argument about that, putting out a message that they aren't? i think that is probably what scares the american people the most, again that lack of transparency. eric holder saying things are down right dangerous. i've been talking to kt mcfarland. are things more dangerous right now for the united states globally than they ever have been. i think eric holder makes a really good point. i think it is scary that the white house has completely different message put out. >> i think what is scary, they're doing it on purpose. >> they're doing it on purpose. >> you try to be that opposite.

>> they're, intentionally deceitful? >> would you have to try, i would ask are you trying to be that oppositional with each other? or is it that accidental? if it is that accidental, are you trying or incompetent? those are not pretty choices. >> it screams incompetence. most americans will watch this, do you guys not get on the phone or grab a lunch date every now and then? when the messaging is so mixed and confusing people say, whole on a second, these are people we're trusting to manage these situations? talking points aside, we've seen mixed talking points come from the administration numerous times whether it be benghazi or what not, people are always confused why we're getting involved in certain areas, not others, as to what our strategy is. syria, why are we waiting so long? talking about syria as gain for united states, how many tens of thousand of innocents died in syria before we budged while barack obama sitting around thinking about what we were going to do? >> what is so astounding when i

worked as press secretary, when things are really bad you can win points being candid and honest admitting they're bad and saying world is dangerous instead of opposite which makes you look completely lacking credibility by saying that it is tranquil. i can't believe he would risk his reputation -- >> mick mccurrie approach. give a little bit. here is bad but here is real story. people how the he was more believable. >> they appreciate honesty. gm officials telling regulators they can't explain the deadly crashes but new documents reportedly tell a very different story. why a stay at home wife could lead to have men have a negative opinion on women in the work place next.

>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. let's get to jon scott with what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." jon? jon: hi, sandra. indications are growing that israel could send ground troops into gaza as hamas terrorists continue to fire rockets into israel. we're live on the israel-gaza border. the acting veterans affairs secretary testified before a congressional committee, getting vets health care they need in time would require 10,000 new staffers. moments ago an alleged high-priced call girl pleaded not guilty in charges to in the heroin overdose death of a google executive. our legal panel takes on that case, ex-ahead on "happening now." >> thanks, jon. jon: thanks, sandra. >> i'm outnumbered custer style. this is my last stand. do you feel like your male coworker could be sexist?

maybe blame his home life. new research in entirely false study, men with stay at home wives are likely to have negative opinion of women in the work place. men with traditional marriages who have women not employed, disfavor women in the work place and are more likely than average of all marriedry 9 men to make decisions that prevent advancement of qualified women. traditional family, that are archaic outmoded, this is more propaganda designed to attack that institution. my wife's dropped out of labor force to raise kids 20 years ago i respect my wife much more. this is garbage. >> do you have less respect for us not working? >> of course not. this i reject this notion. i know i'm not even asked a question. i'm ranting. >> i'm good with your rant. i'm really good with it. i never experienced this based

on how a man was married. if somebody will mistreat you, generally has to do with you and that person and something they might want from you. >> right. >> if, how somebody is married and their wife's choice to stay home and work, because that is as much work as any of us do when we leave the house. >> of course. >> yeah. i don't see how that would inform the guy, except if he loves her he would treat women with more respect. >> isn't that the case? people with happy marriages like other people and are more magnanimous and kinder to other people. >> my thoughts go much deeper than that. my thoughts go to the man must have had certain beliefs and traditions to begin with to want to marry a woman who is willing to stay at home and raise his family. >> really? >> had preconceived notions about a woman and her place in the work place. does that make sense? >> no it doesn't make sense. >> stay home after they get married. >> there is not a woman in the world could be forced to do anything i have noticed. certainly not to stay home. this is choice a woman has to

make, no? >> if you have a stay at home wife though, say you're a guy, see benefits to that, whatever may be, she is with children and grow to like that, do you think maybe it could change your view of women in the workforce or what not, given your situation, if it happened to work out well for you? i think it could sort of change the way you view that in general. >> it might. you might say, i prefer that my wife stays homes, rather than work, raises our kids, rather than to go into the office, the idea that you would hurt other women as a result of this seems far fetched. >> i agree. i think this study is a bit of a leap. this is a from a website called, the frisky. have the source. the sample is only about a thousand people. i think there is probably a kernel of truth the fact with men with wives at work, are more understanding about work place life balance and flexibility. however, i don't think that means they're sex it. i really don't. i will say, the difference in generation i have seen it. older men in the work place who grew up in a different era are a little bit more sex it i would

say than younger men. >> i agree with that. >> younger men, they're great. even if they have stay at home wives. >> can sexy or sexist. >> depend who we're talking about. >> hr, they're calling. just kidding. >> you want me to name a sexy older man? i will do it onout numbered overtime. condition from this network as well. >> a new dating site tests your dna to pair you up with your perfect genetic match. does it work? would you do it? that's next. t!

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incest act that you don't end up dating your family. and in smaller countries it could be helpful, but i am not buying this on matching you. >> i am hesitant to use my credit card on line right now. i pay someone to take my dna. >> and you are not inclined. >> and membership is 200 for three months and this is not cheap? >> and can to fiend your perfect match. >> you agree with this? >> the nature versus nurture debate. we know that genetics and what if they match people on genetics is a separate question. but it plays a role in cam patability. >> that is the first kiss and

find out, excuse me honey and i will get back to you in 15 empties. >> people try the dating sites and dating is hard. let me tell you in places like new york. people figure why not? maybe there is something. >> when i read this and i had seen it before it was pitched. maybe i could experiment and write an article. >> don't do it. >> once you get matched up, what if it is not a match, can you get your money back? >> that's a good point. >> listen, i would like my saliva mailed back to me. >> and they say to little girls, there is the one out there. >> no way. >> but to send to a computer? >> we are move nothing that direction. >> and a movie for each of us out. there some of us are dense.

it took me a long time for my husband. i what if i missed him? >> i think there is somebody for everyone 100 percent. all right. that's it for outnumbered today. >> happening now, coming up next, but on line stay right where we are. will the crisis in the border influence the voters in the booth? it is sizing up to be a major election issue at the moment and here is how it might affect the midterm results. and stoking new worries about the government's substances and diseases in the world. >> and the acting va secretary goes before congress. and is he working to approvability in