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>> we're going to follow you to new hampshire. bret michaels in one word, you're going to rock in the after the show show? >> i am going to rock the after the show show. 9:00 here in new york city. a fox news alert what is being called an act of terrorism and act of war. commercial airliner shot out of the sky by a missile. this is new video showed the terrifying moments after malaysia airlines flight 17 was hit. that plane exploding in territory controlled by russian separatists, killing 298 people on board. this is quickly developing store not even 24 hours old. bear with us over the next several hours throughout the day as we continue to bring you the latest we get here at fox news headquarters in new york. i'm bill hemmer. welcome to "america's newsroom." big welcome to you as well, heather. >> busy, busy day.
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i'm heather childers in for martha maccallum. u.s. investigators are heading to ukraine to help with the investigation. ukraine and russia blaming each other for the crash. but ukrainian bought now releasing intercepted audio of russian separatists talking about shooting down the plane. >> translator: the plane fell apart in the area in the area of the mine. the first 200. we found the first 200, a civilian. what do you have there? in short 100% passenger aircraft. are many people there, holy shot. debris fell into the yard. what kind of aircraft. i haven't ascertained this. i haven't been to the main site. only surveying scene where first bodies fell. there are the remain of internal brackets and seats and bodies. bill: latest to our national security correspondent jennifer griffin at the meant gone. -- pentagon. in our studio. jennifer, good morning to you. break down who is talking on these messages again? what can we report about these
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intercepted messages we're listening to now? >> reporter: bill, u.s. defense officials tell me they have no reason to doubt the authenticity of intercepted phone calls release last night by the ukrainian government. what is notable is who is speaking in the first call intercepted just 20 minutes after the malaysian flight went down. this man, igor bezler, the self-proclaimed minister of defense for the russian separatist it is is talking to a russian military intelligence officer by the name of geranan the rebel commander is essentially reporting back to a colonel in the ration military main intelligence department inside russia. he is describing how his fighters are examining the wreckage.
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[speaking native tongue ♪. >> reporter: second intercepted conversation which you played in your introduction is reportedly between two separatist fighters who have gone to inspect the wreckage, bill. bill: jennifer, couple things here. no question about the authenticity of this? >> reporter: right now defense officials say they have no reason to question the authenticity. u.s. intelligence can not confirm independently. they did not intercept the telephone calls but they have no reason to believe these are not real conversations. bill: another question. we know the type of surface-to-air missile took down this plane, right? do these separatists have access to them, and if so, where did they get them? >> reporter: right now what we know, bill, u.s. intelligence is looking at two types of missiles. there are only two that they believe could have brought down this missile. one is a sa-11. that is known as a buk missile. it is something that, that the,
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it is ration-made and the separatists were able to obtain an sa-11 on june 29th when they overtook a ukraine military base near donetsk, in the area where the plane went down. at the time they tweet ad photo of this ask. a 11, this -- sa-11, this buk missile. the at time u.s. intelligence thought the missile in their hands not necessarily operational. they began to change their assessment this week when they started to see see planes falling out of the sky. three planes in the last four days in the same area of donetsk where this sa-11 was captured. what u.s. intelligence does not know at this point is whether, if it was an sa-11 that brought down the plane, whether it was from this military base that, or whether it was an sa-11 that the russians had that crossed across the border. they're looking at all of that very carefully. of course the pentagon has been watching as heavy weaponry has been moving in recent weeks
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across the border. you had 10 to 12,000 russian troops amassing along the border and they have been watching steadily as heavier weaponry and advisors moved into this ukraine territory, bill. bill: these missiles have incredible range. 50,000 feet in altitude. maybe even higher than that. where is vladmir putin on all of this today? apparently there are reports he is calling for a cease-fire in ukraine. what do we know about that? >> reporter: what is very interesting is the messaging coming out moves cow. it is very clear that president putin recognizes that this is an international disaster and that a lot of the evidence so far is leading to russian involvement in some way or another, whether advising these separatists on the phone with the separatists shortly after the plane was shot down. it was clear there was a lost coordination with moscow. so today president putin has called for a cease-fire between the separatists and ukraine
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government and all of this, a bit rich coming at a time when he has been amassing his troops along the border and sending weapons into the separatist territory inside ukraine. bill: we'll lean on you throughout the morning. when you get more come on back. jennifer griffin from our bureau in washington. heather. >> here is what we know about the victims. there were 298 people aboard malaysia airlines flight mh17. that includes 15 crewmembers and three infants. none survived. the victims were from at least 10 different countries. the majority from the netherlands. the plane took off from amsterdam's schipole airport. four victims remain unidentified. ukraine's government claimed americans were among the dead. the u.s. still has not confirmed that. the tragedy, coming on, major blow to the global scientific community as well. officials say world-renowned aids researchers and activists
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they were on board that ill-fated plane. they were headed to a conference in australia. a former president of the international aids society and world health organization spokesman confirmed among the dead. bill: heather, here is the timeline. 12:15 local time, sky schipole airport. expected arrival time, 6:15 local time in kuala lumpur, malaysia. five hours into the flight, first report of eastern ukraine of shoot-down and this commercial airliner on the ground. we'll take the map a little closer. ukraine has been a hotbed we've been reporting on more than a year. crime cry, the vote that was taken there, voting to go back with russia. this is donetsk. this is a region, also a city but in this region, about 25 miles, 30 miles from the russian border is where the plane eventually hit the earth with 298 people on board. advance it one time. so many images and they are
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striking. this is one of them. what appears to be part of the jet engine from the boeing 777. also another engine up here in the left-hand corner as well seems to be more intact this part of the debris from that commercial airliner. one image that is stunning too. this was taken by an internet website that tracks all the air traffic at the time of the reported shoot-down. this is western, eastern europe into russia. this is ukraine. this is the j.p. morgan where the shoot-down occurred. you see all this activity here in western europe. all this activity over here in russia. this is where the plane went down. you see these airliners here, just skirting the eastern edge of ukraine and zoo much of this country is clear of the airlines. back in march the faa put out an alert to stay away from that area. various reports whether or not that plane should have been flying over that area or whether or not other commercial airliners gone through the same path a short time earlier. whatever the facts are on the
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ground, we can't ascertain for the moment on that but this air disaster ukraine is turning into a whodunit. with all the fingerpointing you have, whether it is in moscow, whether it is in kiev or whether it is in washington, d.c. want to bring in our fox news analyst, kt mcfarland on this and how are you doing? >> good. bill: you say the main point in a lot of this right now is that putin's secret war is no longer secret. explain that. >> i was just in ukraine last month and i met with officials from the ministry of defense and intelligence and they all said look, you guys don't understand. we've been invaded. the russians have invaded eastern ukraine. they have amassed troops along the border but they have sent in tanks, military equipment, military personnel, special-ops guys. they're not wearing russian uniforms. insignia has been wiped off the side of the tanks but we have been invaded. and putin's plan, was that he would reconstitute the russian
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empire by these phony wars, by secret invasions. he would make it look like it was russian egg nicks in those -- ethnics in the count saying we don't want to be part of ukraine, we're not crimea, we want to be part of russia. in fact it was russians doing it. the lid is off that now. no doubt about it, that ukraine has been invaded by russians and now that the truth is out. what will the west do? that will be next step. bill: we're waiting for that. 31 years ago you were working for the reagan administration in 1983, when the soviets shot down the south korean airliner what do you remember we need too understand now? >> i was in pentagon and president reagan on vacation in his ranch in california. he immediately came back to washington of the canceled his vacation. met with the advisors. tried to figure out what happened. within a day became obvious soviet military shot down callously without warning a korean civilian airliner. that was turning point for
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reagan. he understood at that point. this is system. this is a people. this is a government doomed to collapse. it is callous, it is corrupt. we can never compromise with them. at that point reagan changed a lot of what he was doing. he said to the european allies, you got to stand with us. we have to step up and stand up against the soviet union. redoubled efforts to do "star wars" missile defense system. told congress, don't cut the defense budget. we need to ramp up the reagan defense buildup. finally he understood that you had to negotiate with the russians, soviet union from position of strength. guess what happened six years later? the soviet union collapsed. bill: we expect to hear from president obama today, would you think? >> i don't know. bill: apparently there is a phone call between vladmir putin and president obama two days ago. what does the president say publicly, versus privately or perhaps does he say the same thing now? >> well, so far he talked about it being a tragedy. that is compared to reagan talked about it as a crime
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against humanity. what i think president obama needs to do, whether he do it is another thing. should he immediately say, missile defense system in the czech republic we canceled we'll build that now. defense cuts i made. we'll reinstate defense spending. people given pink slips to, in the military. we'll reverse that. we'll call on russians they're violating imf treaty. we're pushing for energy independence for the united states so that we can help the europeans get off russian -- natural gas for which russians blackmail them. bill: you give us a lot to think about. kt mcfarland, our national security analyst. wee await word from the white house when that comes. we'll bring it to our viewers first. thanks. heather. >> breaking news in the middle east. israel stepping up its offensive in gaza after its initial assault last night. [gunfire] tank and artillery fire echoing across hamas strongholds.
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and now israel is announcing it will expand its ground operation against the terrorists in gaza in an effort to destroy rocket launching sites and tunnels. we'll go live to the region. that is just in a minute. bill: these two stories as they continue to develop and break throughout the morning. we'll take you there. where was president obama? he was in new york last night. two democratic fund-raisers. is that response to a crisis now becoming a pattern? we'll analyze that in a moment. heather? >> plus white house press secretary just the other day saying the president's policies helped keep peace in the world. does that still hold up? >> even in the midst of what is a very complicated and dangerous world that the obama administration thinks that this president's leadership is succeeding and advancing american interests around the world. live healthy and take one a day men's 50+. a complete multivitamin with 7 antioxidants to support cell health. age? who cares.
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bill: 16 past the hour now. fox news alert now. some calling it an act of terror already and others an act of war. leaving the obama administration with a big decision on how to
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respond as western leaders question russia's role in the events leading up to this tragedy. congressman adam kinzinger, member of foreign affairs committee and pilot in the air national guard. good morning. >> good morning. bill: you're a pilot. you have a lot of experience in this area. what are you picking up now, sir. >> i'm hearing what people are hearing but at end of the day i want everybody to think about something. folks are sleeping on this airliner, on the way to land in kuala lumpur. all after sudden, pilots too, in the republican of an eye it is over and find themselves, some die, some falling. this is tragedy against humanity. this is something inflicted directly or indirectly but he bears responsibility nonetheless by this evil dictator vladmir putin. it is time for the president of the united states to finally be very clear-eyed about the fact of the threat that putin poses. this is a real opportunity to unite the american people with
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europe, to stand against 24 terrible situation. bill: so what then, tony evans, the prime minister of as you veil yaw, did you hear what he had to say today? >> i did not. bill: he called russia's response, deeply, deeply unsatisfactory. he went on to say it is very important, not allow russia to prevent comprehensive investigation to find out what exactly happened here. >> that's right. the russians say they will take over the investigation. it is obvious by now they had a very strong role to play in here. whether they directly supplied equipment or just embodiening these pro-russian separatist it is. these pro-russian separatists pose to the west and to america and to our allies not just a threat to ukraine and not just a threat to the theory of european stability but they know pose a direct threat our people because they have taken their war beyond just the borders of ukraine.
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tony abbott is very clear-eyed in this. our president needs to be clear-eyed. for once focus on what is going on. tell the american people similar to what reagan did after shoot-down of the korean airliner. what the purpose of america the united states in the world is, paint that picture, shining city on hill and embolden the american people for their own freedom. bill: tony abbott said this is not a accident. this is a crime. i don't know what the white house has to say just yet. we're awaiting word on. that. would you expect the president to say something, very soon on this? >> yeah. i would expect him to. i have learned sometimes tamper down my expectations from the white house. but i think he ought to. he ought to be very clear. call putin out by name. call russians out by name and make it very clear that the united states will embolden our nato allies. i say restart the missile defense shield and make it clear, look the reset didn't work. so, by vladmir putin's own choosing, they're now going to have to pay a penalty and rally the europeans with us on
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economic sanctions, step them up and make the russian economy feel it. russia is paper tiger. their economy is $2 trillion. our is about $18 trillion. they're not our equal. they're a 20th century gas station. we need to make that clear. bill: adam kinzinger, thank you for your time from washington. >> thank you. bill: heather. heather: israeli leaders they are now saying they will expand their invasion of gaza after ground troops march into the disputed territory. we're live on the israeli border. that is up next. bill: russia under fire. was putin and russia responsible for the attack that brought down this malaysian airlines jet? that is a debate that continues today. >> well the guy at fault is vladmir putin. he's the guy that's trying to fight a pseudo war, a war in the shadows, to try to do it on the cheap and i think many of us in the military analyst business knew that eventually something like this was going going to happen. i make a lot of purchases for my business.
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heather: fox news alert. another huge story developing today. israel moving deeper into gaza with a ground offensive. troops are trying to destroy rockets and tunnels used by hamas. david lee miller has been covering the story all week from the front lines. he is live on the border with gaza. david lee, is this a full-scale invasion at this point? >> reporter: right now, heather, this is a limited ground incursion. there are israeli forces from one end of gaza to the other but for the most part they are positioned in close proximity to the border. the prime minister has said, the objective of this ground incursion is to identify and destroy the tunnels that the militants use to infiltrate israel. the prime minister speaking a
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short time ago, said these tunnels can not be destroyed by air power alone. that's why there has to be boots on the ground. additionally, as this ground incursion takes place, during the last self hours, we have seen more airstrikeses as well taking place, from one end of gaza to the other. this, as the militants continue their assault, firing rockets into israel at least 60 by last count. and since the incursion got underway the death toll now since the incursion, one israeli soldier and at least 22 palestinians. heather? heather: the prime minister saying today they are prepared for significant expansion of the offensive. why are the tunnels such a threat? >> reporter: israel sees these tunnels as a great potential, and i say that word and underscore it, potential menace. we're familiar with the rocket fire. the iron dome has prevented any
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fatalities from taking place. there have been hundreds and hundreds of rockets fired but not a single israeli died because of the rocket fire. no israeli has died because militants have been able to infiltrate the country, that is a very grave concern. the fear is, if the militants can use these tunnels, to get through the border, there could be a catastrophe. they could not only kill many israelis. they might be able to kidnap them as well. this is something extremely worrisome. just yesterday there was an infiltration that took place. it was foiled but soon after that happened, nerves were frayed. people on edge, and there was at least one false alarm. military now wants to do everything in its power to prevent these tunnels from being used by militants. so, far, heather, at least eight of them, eight of them since this current enterprise got underway, eight tunnels have been identified and they're in the process of being destroyed.
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the israeli military says the incursion began, these eight tunnels had inside, various armaments and weapons. they pose a great risk. heather? heather: david lee miller reporting for us live today. thank you, david lee. bill: more breaking news now. want to get back to malaysian flight 17. jennifer griffin reporting according to senior officials, a senior u.s. official, the missile fired at that boeing 777 came from inside ukraine territory, not from the russian side of the border. this according to a classified intelligence report. it continues to say, goes on to say rather that the u.s. intel community is leaning toward the conclusion that it was fired by russian-backed separatists. can not definitely conclude that at this point but all indicators certainly point in that direction. more on this breaking news in a moment as our coverage continues right after this.
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bill: 9:30 in new york.
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getting more information right before the break. sources telling fox news and jennifer griffin that the missile fired at malaysian airline flight 17 came from inside ukrainian territory, not from the russian border. this according to a preliminary classified intel report. we showed you a map about 25 minutes ago that locates the area where the plane and the debris is on the ground. it is about 25, som 30 miles from the russian border. what will the president do now? what will he say now? as you see the intended path, the intended route from amsterdam to kuala lumpur in malaysia. he taking criticism attending two fund-raisers instead of focusing on events overseas. in delaware late yesterday, mr. obama said he did not want to get ahead of the events. this is how the comment went. >> the world is watching reports of a downed passenger jet near the russian-ukraine border and it looks like it may be a
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terrible tragedy. right now we're working to determine whether there were american citizens on board. that is our first priority. bill: so juan williams, fox news political analyst and mary catherine ham, editor-at-large of hotair.com, fox news contributor. good morning to both of you. i don't know, mk, what the response is today. what do you think of the response so far? >> well i think yesterday no president is required to have every single bit of information and put it into a long speech immediately in the aftermath of an event like this but this is a civilian airliner brought down in a military conflict. this is a huge, moral problem. this is something the entire world looks at, oh, my gosh, what is going on here? nothing in, not just in the president's speech yesterday but his schedule, the fund-raisers, not canceling the trip to the charcoal pit, none of that really spoke to how very grave this situation obviously was from the beginning. you know at least that from the beginning. so i think it is not just
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critics but folks like piers morgan on the left saying, this seems like a real misstep for the president. frankly this is something i think he can be good at. he can give a speech. he can, you know, make proper, you know, proper conciliations to victims and condolences to them. i think yesterday that just did not happen. bill: consoler--chief. let me get juan to move forward on this. juan, did it strike you as odd yesterday the word choice? >> the word choice definitely did. to me, right from the start, yes, it is a tragedy but far more in terms of its geopolitical implications of a crisis. i will differ, if we're talking about whether or not the president can be a politician at the same time that he is being a crisis manager, i think i have a difference of opinion here with mary catherine because, i have mean you don't have to look back far in our history, but presidents of all stripes have
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gone out and been able to manage crises at the same time that they are engaging in politics. you know, i think what is analogous to what happened yesterday, might be the madrid train bombing back in, i think that is oh 04. president bush was in office. 06. president bush was in office. 200 people dead, 1800 hurt and he was off to fund raiser in los angeles. i think in a way i am poo are always, president can't do it. presidents can manage. bill: the point is words matter. they matter in a significant way, when the eyes of the world are trained on you. you listen to the australian prime minister earlier today, tony bab dot. this is not an accident. this is a crime. eliot engel in new york, called it an act of war, mk, an act of terrorism. >> yeah i think there is some moral clarity is missing what the president is saying about
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this. he is very up in the air about it and how he will deal with this i think the sense people get to juan's., yes you can do both things. i think sense people get is that he is doing the one, which is politicking but not the other, which is managing the crisis. this is a pattern. i think if they felt he was truly on top of things, for instance the state department was behind the news cycle, knowing how many americans were on that plane, i think if they got the sense they were dealing with this, competently, that he would be, it would be fine to do those things. the other thing, cut one of the three. cut the joking speech in delaware. cut the charcoal pit or cut fund-raisers. at least one of them. bring the speech down in delaware to a little bit graver tone. people are very forgiving of him. i think none of this reflected what was going on the ground. bill: juan, you would not disagree with that, would you? >> yeah i would. i think he was ahead of the curve in terms of sanctions he had raised stakes on the day before with russia to try to tell them to get out of the stop
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massing troops near the border. stop shipping weapons to the resistance forces. they were trying to oppose the ukrainian government the question, what i think is, and i think all of us would agree here, bill, is, you don't, the president especially the barbecue stuff, i think the optics look bad. but in terms of whether he was engaged, whether he is managing, i just don't see any evidence that he is not. bill: we'll see what they say today. we're waiting on that. mary catherine thank you. juan, thanks to you as well. 36 minutes past the hour. a lot more information coming in. heather has that now. heather: including on those victims. we're getting new details on victims of downed malaysian airlines plane. we'll tell you about some chilling twists of fate. plus world leaders questioning russia's role in the growing crisis, with some pointing a finger at president vladmir putin. what should the u.s. do? >> this is as close to as it gets to the kind of aggression we've seen over and over in europe.
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we either respond to it or it is going to happen again.
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heather: welcome back. a chilling twist of fate for family linked to the downed malaysia airlines plane a flight attendant killed in the tragedy switched shifts with a colleague at the last minute. putting himself on the doomed flight. his wife also works as a flight attendant. and she also made a last-minute swap. that was back in march, taking herself off of malaysia airlines
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flight 370. you may recall that plane disappeared over the indian ocean and has yet to be found. bill: similar thought from a dutch passenger on facebook before boarding that plane. he posted this photo of the jet with the caption that reads, if it disappears, this is what it looks like. obvious reference to flight 370. friend responded to that photo, wishing the passenger and his girlfriend safe travels. as they were en route to malaysia, kuala lumpur. eerie message posted five hours before that plane was shot down. heather: well as leaders around the world try to figure out who is responsible for this tragedy, there's new pressure being put on russian president vladmir putin. if evidence ultimately ties the missile to pro-russian separatists it could dramatically change the international community's view of the conflict between russia and ukraine. colonel oliver north saying that it is time for firm action. >> his goal is to reassemble as much of the ancient russian
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empire as he possibly can do. what he committed today by the way isn't a terrible tragedy as the man on that airplane said. it is a travesty. it is murder. and it is the kind of thing that requires a very, very firm response, not just by the united states, but the leadership of the united states with nato. heather: joining me now, captain bob wells, former national security advisor to vice president dick cheney. thank you for joining us. you heard colonel north say there, it is murder. it is a travesty and it is murder. how could russia and president putin not be involved in this? >> thank you very much, heather. i think the facts will prove out that there's quite a bit of russian involvement inside ukraine but i think a larger point picking up what mr. north said, and is, it needs an extraordinary response from the united states. this isn't just the traditional response in wake of the russian
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incursion into crimea. this is a second wake-up call for the united states. this is time for extraordinary leadership. this particular incident is incredibly significant with regard to the timeline, with regard to the as send dance of russia. also the fact that there are so many nationalities involved. that the british, the netherlands, tragically, malaysians, australians, philippines, the americans, that were lost. our prayers go out to them and their families but this is an extraordinary response time for our national security staff here in the united states. heather: the latest information we received came from our jennifer griffin reporting that a senior u.s. official says we now know the missile was fired from inside ukraine territory. so what does that tell you in reference to getting any closer to as to who's responsible? >> i think you need to go with where the facts lead you. i think also the fact that it is a buk-type missile control, fire control system looking where the malaysian aircraft was at
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33,000 feet, it is semiactive homing missile. it requires radar detect to engage sequence for its time in flight. it is very quick response. whoever actually engaged this aircraft from their location which is now been determined think to be in donetsk or at least eastern ukraine, that is going to come out in the investigation. also we have the national transportation safety board, many different investigative aviation safety experts going to ukraine. so the facts will tell us exactly what happened. heather: the buk missile, it was designed bit soviet union back in 1979 and it does take training. so we know at the very least if these pro-russian separatists are the ones that fired the missile, it also took some training from someone. >> agreed. very sophisticated missile system as previously reported. sa-11, the gadfly system, it does take training. takes training for the radar
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system of the radar system is key for this missile system because you need to have acquisition of a particular contact. this aircraft was flying in the same trajectory from kiev across ukraine and engaged by somebody on the ground there in eastern ukraine. heather: we president putin today call fog are a cease-fire but i want to ask you specifically about his comments yesterday. his initial comments where he placed blame and he said, quote, that the state over whose territory this took place bears responsibility for the awful tragedy. he refrained from saying who he believed fired the missile. does that have any significance to you at all? >> it does. in fact it really speaks to his particular effort and his campaign plan with regard to supporting the rebuilding of the former soviet union in particular of the role of the former soviet union in ukraine. the geographics, demographics inside eastern ukraine, there is
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quite a few russians east of the nepir river. they're all very empathetic and aligned with moscow. mr. putin is pick up on that sentiment as was previously stated by mr. north. the cold war ended tragically in mr. putin's eyes and he is using all elements of his national power including a special relationship on asymmetric, advisory, whatever you want to call it inside ukraine to enable the russian separatists to basically take a stand begins the new government in kiev. heather: it seems to be key that we gain access to the crash site itself to determine what missiles were used, how this came down. do you really believe that we will be given that access that is needed? >> i think so. i also think that the ukrainian government as well as, you get the area where the debris is seen, as i understand it, nine
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miles along a path of, where the first pieces of the aircraft first came down. i also think that physics has a lot to play here. looking at the physics of the trajectory of the aircraft, looking at the physics of where the missiles were launched, the u.s. intelligence community has put some pretty good perspective out already in terms of what they're finding. so bottom line is, the elements of proof as all this information comes in, people on the ground, looking at the physics of the actual surface-to-air missile launch from the ground in eastern ukraine, the clandestine communications sets being delivered, this is all going to come out. it will inform policy and the next steps for the united states and the europeans and a lot of other countries now. this is actually pressurized the situation with ukraine. everyone is paying attention now. heather: we'll see what the response will be. captain bob wells joining us. thank you. >> thank you, heather. bill: we just got a statement from delta air lines. it reads in part out of abundance of caution,
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delta air lines is not routeing flights through ukrainian airspace and monitoring situation involving malaysian flight 17. it goes on to express sympathies, thoughts and prayers for loved ones suffering, passengers and crewmembers on board. this goes along with a warning that went out by the faa back in march after crimea was annexed by russia to avoid that part of the world for flying aircraft. there was a press conference earlier today in kuala lumpur where malaysian airlines are taking a lot of questions too, heather, about the whole question about whether or not this was a safe flight path and whether it was advisable to go that route. the word came out from malaysia airlines that many other commercial airliners flown the same route only hours before. these questions will continue. heather: the faa saying our flights were advised to avoid it but were not told specifically that they had to. until today. bill: some more on that in a
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moment. also we're getting word from the white house now, we've been waiting for this. now we have it from the white house at 11:30 eastern time, fox news confirming, president obama will deliver a statement on the latest on flight 317, from inside the james brady briefing room at the white house. certainly we will have live coverage of that for you. that is an hour 40 minutes away from now. we'll see what the white house and president has to say about what is happening on the ground, what sort of communications they have had with vladmir putin in russia and also the prime minister in ukraine. all that coming up for you throughout the day here. heather: a lot of news happening. bill: yeah. also it was one small step for man, one giant achievement for our country. 45 years ago on sunday, we'll talk to one of the astronauts who landed on the moon. >> that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. movie night. i get 2x the points on streaming movies and takeout from restaurants
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heather: some breaking news to report to you. be sure to stay with us because coming up at 11:30 a.m. eastern time we've been told that the president will make a statement from the white house regarding the plane crash, malaysian plane, mh17. we'll take you to that statement live as the president delivers it. once again that is at 11:30 a.m. eastern time from the white house. so stay with us. bill? bill: heather, thank you. back to all the breaking news in a moment here. first we want to make this moment about one of the biggest moments in american history. 45 years ago an american walked on the moon for the first time, immortalized in neil armstrong's
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famous words. >> that's one small step for man, one giant leap for mankind. bill: and now this is the second man to walk on the moon and into the history books, buzz aldrin. a big welcome to a friend of our program here at "america's newsroom." >> love to be here. bill: a lot of breaking news in the world. you're staying very close to that. we did not want to miss this opportunity to ask you what it means to you personally and maybe as a nation when you reflect 45 years this weekend? >> i think it is very important to call attention to 45. sounds like an indiscriminate number, it is five years to the 50th and the president and preparation between now and then to make a commitment, within two decades, to mars.
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so we've got a new president. we need to, i need to kind of work with the platforms, the nominating people, both parties and the candidates, to explain a few things to them as to what is liable to happen. we've made the 45th anniversary a big deal by our hashtag, apollo 45, where we asked a lot of well-known people to record where they were when there was a first landing on the moon by americans. bill: that's great. >> and what impact did it make on them. bill: to think buzz aldrin is in hashtags on twitter. what a world we've come into. what do you think we need to understand about that moment? >> that was a catch-up moment.
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germany launch ad v-2. in world war ii. then the russians launched sputnik. they put a dog up. we were behind. so we put a monkey up. brought it back. and then, suborbital flights. nothing like gergarin, one complete orbit. we caught up with john glenn's mercury program. put in the mercury program with great objectiveses with to prepare for the three-man apollo which first had the wrong mission with a big lander to do everything out of dr. von braun and john hubolt who died recently. bill: amazing accomplishment and achievement. thank you for reminding us of it, sir. you understand we have breaking news. we have to get back to that.
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enjoy sunday. buzz aldrin, thank you, sir. >> pars permanence in 2040. bill: with a hashtag. thank you, sir. get back to breaking news in a moment. right after this. heather. heather: we'll be right back. word the president will speak in about 90 minutes
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>> 10:00 here. and president president obama bill speak in 90 minutes at 11:30 a.m. and this is russian president vladimer putin responding to the deadly attack on the passenger jet over ukraine calling on both sides to lay down arms and engage in peace talks. vladimer putin is calling for a seize fire according to reports. i am bill hemmer and welcome back to you. >> nice to be here. i am heather childers in for martha maccallum. the leader is calling for peace as the fingers point on him for the death of the 290 people on
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board. investigators are trying to get to the bottom of who shot the plane out of the sky. here is what we are learning >> national transportation safety officials and the fbi is headed to the ground on ukraine. >> and a pro-russian leader is saying no black box has been found and that conflicts with the statement there. >> reports of two dozen americans on board but still not confirmed. windle golder is live at the white house. what do we expect to hear this morning? >> reporter: perhaps a bit about russia's part in this.
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he is getting his daily briefing. and he will meet with the vice president and treasure secretary and secretary of state. the treasure of secretary might suggest tougher sanctions on russia which were just ramped up. kerry's focus is getting them to take a tougher line with russia than they have in the past. the president called the prime minister of malaysian and amsterdam to offer his sympathy. the fbi and national safety bord are headed to the scene. but it is a war zone that so that makes the investigation difficult, if not possible. the president called on vladimer putin to allow seize fire to
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allow access to the site. >> there has been talk about his rather lukewarm comments yesterday but at the time there wasn't a lot of detail. >> reporter: the president was going to delaware and a couple new york fundraisers yesterday. we think the first word came from vladimer putin who remarked at the end of a phone call between the two there were reports of the plane down. he made a brief remark at the delaware event and some critics think he should have canceled the event. >> that statement was 38 seconds yesterday. we are on standby for the president. chris sty wall is here. good morning to you.
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pick up on the last point. >> you only get one chance to make a first impression. so the president who does a lot of political theater and is also out in public from drinking beer with the governor of colorado and standing by a bridge project and he is always out and talking and on the air. it tends dilute to potency. reagan waited four days to speak about issues and he had an authority about the subject. because the president is always there he is playing catch up
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kind of. >> you have a chance to get it right and catch up with critics like peter king who said this last night with megan. >> it is like an emotional barrier he has. he is out to las vegas to raise money after the benghazi. this is a pattern. a long established pattern in times of crisis that he zones out. >> it wasn't just republicans it was democrats. elliot angle, the democrat from new york, called it an act of terrorism and war. how do you see the statement at 11:30? >> it is more freighted and he will probably feel like he should hit it a little harder. the approach was the president declined to be aggressive when
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it comes to discussing foreign policy. the kind of rhetoric he uses to attack republicans in the house for blocking his spending initiatives and the hot rhetoric he likes to use when talking about political rivals isn't something he uses when it comes to the united states enemies or foes on the stage. i don't know about a president that is in favor of exploiting domestic crisis but doesn't on the international stage. >> 11:30 eastern time we will have it for you. more news to get to with heather on this. as the world mourns 300 innocent lives lost on mh-17 one won who was supposed to be to be on the flight says she is grateful to be alive. >> i am shaking. i don't know what to do. i am feeling physically sick
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from the hague coming to the airport. and i am just thinking i feel like i have been given a second chance. >> she certainly has been. jessica is live from kiev. what is the latest from the scene? >> reporter: we got information from kiev and they say they have proof pro-russian insurgeants shot down the plane and sent us tapes they intercepted between russian insurgants and officials. and you can hear a gentlemen speaking in russia that they shot down an airliner thinking it was a ukrainian aircraft buzz it was a civilian jetliner. and you hear people saying they
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are coming for the wreckage and again they thought it was a ukrainian airliner. and talking about body parts at the scene. those tapes have yet to be veri verified. vladimer putin is pushing that it was the ukraine's fault because this wouldn't have happened if they had not challenged the surge. he did say he urged both sides to lay down their weapons and peace in ukraine is the most important thing. something else that is important to note is the region where the airliner went down is controlled by russian insurgeants. people from kiev can't access that area. you have people coming in and
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kiev says they only need official people there trying to locate the black box. the russians came out saying they had found the black boxes and then there was a c contradiction they had not. >> you mentioned the phone conversations have yet to be verified but a senior official is saying there is no reason to doubt the validity of the foreign intercepts and the initial one came from the commander on the ground to a colonel within the russian territory. you talk about the area where the crash sight is located. tell us about who is in control of that area and if in fact investigators will be allowed
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access because that is key to the investigation at this point. >> absolutely. the area has been controlled by the pro-russian insurgaents for two months. it is mostly farmland. and we are talking about a huge area with wreckage for miles. villagers, coal minors and others have have access to this area and that puts the investigation into jeopardy because you cannot have average people coming in. so kiev is saying governments must come together to encourage a seize fire in the area so people can go in and assess the damage and figure out what happened when the plane was shout down. it is a day of morning here in kiev as well. >> unfortunately we have seen
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incidents similar to this but never at a cruising altitude. this plane was at 33,000 feet. no aggressive movements or anything which adds to the misry of why the target. and the war in the middle east is at a new level with israeli launching a new ground operation in gaza. and what now after the shoot down of a we are waiting for president obama's statement live from the white house and we will have that for you when it happens. as we look back on how president reagan responded 30 years ago: >> with our horror and our sorry there is a table and rightious anger. it would be easy to think in terms of vengence. but we want justice and action to see this never hapsens again. to see this never hapsens again. mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh...
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israel launching a ground
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invasion in the gaza strip. >> this coming after ten days of airstrikes and rocket attacks between israel and hamas. an israeli spokesperson said they had to act after hamas rejects their offer for a seize fire. >> the goal is to protect your people and if that can be achieved diplomatically that mind be good. but hamas has closed the door to any diplomatic solution and that means we have to strike at gaza to protect the people. >> dan knight is here with more. thank you for joining us. and the latest information i
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want to ask you about and this is coming from the prime minister and he is saying israeli is prepared for quote significant expansion of this offensive whereas yesterday it was called limited in scope. why the stronger words and how long do you see this happening? >> heather, it is good to be with you. yes, the crime prime min prime -- prime minister -- made it very clear we mean business and went into gaza after ten days of restraint from israel. no country, especially the united states, would wait ten seconds after being hit by a missile from a neighbor country. once we went in we have to make sure we finish the job.
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you have been reporting about this air massacre in the ukraine. this is a very vived and horrific illustration of what happens when destruction weapons fall into the wrong hands. and just imagine that hamas has ground to air missiles. what happened in ukraine would be a preview of what is to be seen. we are there to make sure hamas is disarmed and the tunnels they build to kidnap people and the missiles threatening our children and women are done away with. until we are sure we have dealt hamas a blow and taken away their ability to stop
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terrorizing our city we will not stop otherwise it will happen over and over again. and we as a free and democratic country can't stand for it. >> i wanted to ask you about the tunnels that are being targeted and the proof you have of the militants who entered the tunnels headed toward israel. you are targeting the tunnels and want to dismantle hamas but your primary goal to is protect the women and children. >> yes, that is our primary goal to bring calmness back. every village has been struck by 1200 missiles from the war criminals who are using their children as human shields while
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trying to kill our children. it was israeli's prime minister that there will not be peace until the arabs learn to love their children more than they hate us. only yesterday, the united nations, which has never been accus accused of being pro-israel reported finding 20 rockets in schools in gaza. the people that put rockets in schools, and mosques and hospitals are animals. and they are using them to kidnap and maim israelis. we are there with your boys at great danger and risk but doing it cautiously but well. going tunnel to tunnel, discover the tunnels, block tunnels and
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make sure we find them all and they are all not operating. and we are doing it for us and you heather and for the american and the rest of the world. we are on the front line of the war against terror. >> i have to wrap up. but can you tell me yes or know room left the negotiation? >> we have been very willing to negotiate. we accepted the egyptian agreement but they declined. and if they agreed to stop firing missiles at israel we'll be happy to stop our action and bring peace to the area. >> thank you for your insight. >> reporter: five years ago the event happened in gaza for ten
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days. we are waiting on a briefing from the president and what we are learning about the surface-to-air missiles and who has them and how they got them. valuable information to understand. >> also, reaction to the malaysian jetliner crash and they are raging from grief to rage with anger pointed at vladimer putin. >> they have been fueling this violence insurance eastern ukraine, they have founded the separatist and giving them the funding to use this equipment and this violence is a result of the decisions made by vladimer putin.
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council is meeting on ukraine. 55-60 minutes away from listening to president obama from the white house. robert scales is here. a lot of moving parts on the story. good morning to you. i want to talk about the hardware we believe was used to take down it a plane at cruising altitude. no aggressive movers on behalf of the pilot. you are on a line and flying flat as you continue five hours into your flight. the surface-to-air missiles have a range of 50,000-70,000 feet. who makes these? and how do you get them? >> these are russian-made. this is the sa-11 which is a an
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improved of the sa-6 and that is what gave the israeli fits in the 1980's. it is a track launcher. it has a wrack of four missiles. it moves at mock three so there is no way the pilots saw the missile coming at them and it has a 170-pound war head. most russian missiles have huge war heads and the blast effect of that would have broken the airplane apart in flight and completely destroyed the airplane the moment that the detonation went off. the course for the american version of this as a patriot the basic course for that is 26 weeks. >> 26 weeks of training?
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oliver north said last night it takes two years to learn how to use this. is that right? >> not only that. it is not just using it but it is maintaining it. russian equipment isn't that reliable and the electronics are very sophisticated. the search radar is sophisticated and the radar mounted on the nose of the missile is very complex. you have to have a crew that is able to do search and track, identify the aircraft, go through the launch sequence and fly it. i am sorry, a bunch of separatist are not skilled to do that. the russians are involved in this. russian technology, russian equipment, russian advisorss & training. >> they can track by laser, radar, heat?
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it isn't like firing off a bottle rocket in your backyard. you have to know where you are going with this. on the day before they were successful on two hits of ukrainian aircraft. you have to think they woke up and said we have our hands on something that could change the course of contest. and they fire again and this time they made a grave and deep, deep mistake. >> here is the thing. if you are setting in front of a radar screen and you don't have identification friend or foe and you cannot identify a tra transponder from an aircraft. all you know is that is an airplane at 30,000 and you maybe trained but this was stupid. they were probably high from the day before.
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saw the plane and pushed the fire button and were not smart enough to destroy the missile in flight when they realized they made a mistake. >> samantha powers is speaking at the un meeting and o'reilly was arguing that the world will do nothing. will it? or not? >> in the short-term, no. we follow a political cycle. vladimer putin follows a national strategy. that is a piece of genius and he has it well-planned out. he is going to deny this and blame it on the west. this will be forgotten over the next few months. his strategy is based on years and decades our is based on the next election cycle. this is just a blimp on the
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screen. let's listen to samantha powers. >> separatist initially claimed responsibility for shooting down the plane and posted videos that have been collected to the crash. separatist leaders bolsted on social media about shooting down a plane but later took them down. it is not likely they could have operated the system without knowledge personal so we cannot rule out russian assistance in operating the system. the ukrainians do have sa-11 systems but we are not aware of any in the area of the shoot down and since the beginning of this crisis ukrainian air defenses haven't fired a single missile despite several alleged
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violations of their air space by air craft. this follows a pattern of actions by russian-backed separatis separatist. on june 24th, as this council was meeting to welcome ukraine's seize fire we received word that separatist downed a helicopter killing all ukrainians on board. on the 22nd they took credit for a downed plane and on july 16th they took credit for a downed fighter jet. if they were behind this, they and their backers would have good reason to cover up evidence of their crime thus it is important that an investigation be commenced immediately. in the first instance, the oece
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special monitoring organization should lay as the foundation for individual nations including those whose citizens were victims of this. the president assured that the we will offer assistance to ukraine. a civil organization is joining the investigation and they must be accessed immediate and full unfettered access to the crash site. they should agree to support immediate seize fire. in this regard we look to the smm to also reach agreement with separatist in the renal region and others. all evidence should be kept in place and all evidence taken should be returned and russia
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need to make it happen. it might take time to establish who shot down the plane filled with innocence, most people of the international community have been warning about the devastation that would come if russia didn't stop what it started and rein in what are unleashed. separatist forces continue to destabilize ukraine and undermean the efforts of a ukraine that is stable and secure and able to determine its future. russia says it seeks peace in ukraine but we have continued to show support of russia supporting the separatist. time after time we are called for the stopping of fighting and weapons into ukraine and pressing them to release h
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hostages. time after time vladimer putin has committed to working toward peace and every single time he has broken that commitment. here is watt we know. in the last few weeks, russia has increased the number of tanks, vehicles and rocket launches in southwest russia and more air defense systems have arrived. moscow transferred tanks to the separatist and several vehicles across the border. after recapturing several ukrainian cities they found several stockpiles of weapons. ukrainian forces discovered large amounts of russian equipment. recruiting efforts for
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separatist fighters are expanding in russia and they are looking for experienced fighters with history of tanks and air missiles. russia has allowed a recruiting office in moscow to be established. a ukrainian pilot was taken by separatist in mid-june and she is being held in a prison in russiana. according to the ukrainian government he was transferred to russia by separatist. they continue to deploy new forces close to the ukrainian border. in addition, this past monday a cargo plane was shot down in air space and on wednesday a fighter jet was shutdown and in both instances the ukrainian government believes they were fired on from russian territory. it is because of these actions
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that the united states imposed sanctions on the defense, energy and financial sector of the economy. this means freezing asset blocking financing from some of the most important banks. they are specific but targeted and designed to have the maximum impact on the russian calculus while limiting the effects on the people and our allies. the european union announced expanded sanctions. if the president continues to improve escalculation over deescalculation it will continue. we remain committed today an agreement as hare the members o
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ukraine. a peace plan was proposed and declared seize fire both of which were objects by the backers in moscow. the president's plan laid down amnesty for those who laid down their arms. he established a job program for areas and included dialogue with eastern region including the promise of early local elections and granted increase local control over language, holidays and customs. the president has reached out to the residents of ukraine and pursuing measures that would give them the riot to protect their languages and rights
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>> that is the first statement we have gotten from the administration about what the american response will be. she said the rebles need to be disarmed and calls on moscow to help. the other thing she suggested there was that earlier in the week when the ukrainian air force jets were shot down she said that fire came from russian territory. i believe that is the first time we have heard that. we will try to run that done with the pentagon. elliot angle, perhaps this was the strongest language given to date. you called this an act of war and terror. you stand by that today? >> i do. and i think the statement made by samantha power was strong and i agree with it. the response has to be unified and tough. >> and what will that response be in your view? >> well, i think that it has to
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be made clear to mr. putin that we are not -- the world, not only the united states, but i think the united states has to lead, that the world is not going to tolerate this. there is clear evidence it was brought down by russian separatist and they have been firing at cargo planes all week long and it certainly seems like this is what happened. whether it was intentionally or not we don't know. but it doesn't matter. this assistant be tolerated >> when you use the word terror and war it takes to a new level. >> of course it is terror when you shoot down innocent people -- that is an act of terror. that is certainly an act of terror. when you kill civilian population that is an act of war. and i think it has to be made clear to mr. putin that this can't be business as usual.
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there has to be a united and robust response from the international community. >> we will hear from the president in 50 minutes. what would you like to hear from him? >> i would like to hear what our u.n.representati u.n.representatives said. >> did she give us a preview of what he is going to say? >> i would assume. >> do you hope? >> i think her statement was strong and there was no wiggle room. >> you use the word assume. what if this falls short of the president's response? >> it is hard to comment not having heard the president's response. i suspect the president will make a forceful statement and i hope the world leaders, that i
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know he has been in touch with, will follow suit and there is unity. i think above and beyond the terrorism and terrible things that the nato alliance is being tested. the formula of nato has been that russia is a partner and that is no longer the case. russia has turned itself into an advisary so it has to be reworked. and not just the united states, but the united states needs to lead but i think the alliances needs to do it. and i think it will. >> thank you, sir. democratic congressman from new york with a strong statement and and backing it up today saying rebles need to be disarmed and
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russia needs to help. and the incident from a few days ago where some of the ukrainian planes were shot down and samantha power saying that came from inside russia. we will go live in the briefing room next.
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breaking developments regarding the victims on board
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of flight mh-17. we are being told there may not have been any americans on board malaysian flight 17. u.s. officials are still sorting through the manifest and the documents. you will recall throughout the morning and yesterday we were told there were possibly 25 americans on board that flight. but once again now being told there may not be any americans who were on board. the victims were from ten different countries. the majority of them being from the netherlands and we will bring you more as developments come. >> the speech at the un has been wrapped up. she said the united states cannot rule out the helper assistance of from russia helping down this plane. >> we insist that russia
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immediately take concrete steps to de-escalate the situation in ukraine and support the seize fire and follow the path toward peace that is ukrainian government has offered. this war can end. russia can end this war. russia must end this war. >> 45 minutes away from seeing the president. texas congressman max thornberry is my guest now. good morning to you on capital hill. i thought her statement was revealing. what do you think we do now? >> i thought she did a good job of laying out the evidence about russian involvement in fanning the flames of this conflict. like you all, i went back and looked at president reagan's statement after the korean airline downing and he said it was a massacre, crime against
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humanity and called had soviets out for not telling the truth but he took several steps to isolate the soviet to isolate them and called on the congress to increase the defense budget. that is what the president needs to do. he needs to make sure we increase the defense and intelligence capabilities all over the world. >> it would appear vladimer putin has stuck it in our eye several times. does putin listen to us today? >> not really. so that is why what why do is more important than what we say. but the rest of the story is it accept just about putin. you know the headlines of today are world in crisis. but you canee bee assured the people in iran, iraq, and syria
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are watching how we respond. so it is about post -- putin -- and russia but it is about the other issues going on around the world. do they see us as strong and leader or giving speeches and never backing it up >> what would you like to hear from the president? how strong is the statement? what does he say? how direct is it? >> it needs to be clear and back upped by evidence. and you just heard a good recitation of the evidence we have about russia fueling the flames of this have a variety of ways. he needs to be clear and direct and what he says needs to be backed up by evidence. but far more important than what he says is what he does. and there is no substitute for a strong, united states military and intelligence presence around the world. people see us receding around
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the world while the crisis just gets worse. he has to turn it around for the sake of the country. >> thank you matt thornberry from capital hill. the president is set to speak on ukraine about 40 minutes from now at the white house. we will be right back. stay with us. stay with us.
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cooperation and impeded access to the crash sight as we investigate who brought down the flight. compare her response to the initial response we received from the president yesterday. >> her response was refreshing because someone laid out what kind of deadly things vladimer putin was out. it would be nice to hear the president be as forceful and clear. but at the end of the day, words without action, no matter how beautiful or forceful, words without action are meaningless to someone like vladimer putin. and the additional sanctions i imposed a couple days are too
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little. it is like trying to change the behavior of the united states by putting sanctions on the first national bank of topeka, kansas. let's see what the president says, but what is more important is what the president does. >> what do you hope to hear from him? you are saying you don't want to hear him chastising russia and those responsible, you want to hear what actions he is going to take? >> i suspect what happened is after the really negative reaction to obama's cavalier attitude yesterday and the white house is saying how much does he have to say? that is the tragedy. fox has been playing that tape of reagan resonding to a similar disaster but the difference is that reagan believes in america's duty to lead. president reagan had a moral
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philosophy government. when you talk about actions is that sanctions or is that assisting ukraine further? >> sanctions with real teeth are a good way to propose but we have to be more visible with support for ukraine and may more attention to the baltic state and poland and the eastern flank of nato. the president is correct when he said the military isn't the answer to everything, and he is wrong when he says anything.
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bill: two major stories we're watching and they're not over yet. not by a long shot. >> "happening now" starts right now. very latest. bill: 30 minutes away from the white house. see you then. jenna: fox news alert. we're awaiting the president to address a deadly attack on a passenger jet over ukraine. hello, everybody, hope you're off to a great friday so far. big news day as it is. >> i'm eric shawn in for jon scott. the president is expected to issue a stronger statement than that 40 seconds of comment he made yesterday when he was in delaware. already united nations ambassador samantha powell issued harsh words about president putin and rush after the shoot-down of this plain of the united nations security council calling for quote a thorough investigation of this crash where ukraine and pro-russian separate tiffs blame each other for the missile attack that

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