it's fans that prank call people. howard stern does not encourage that kind of behavior. okay. got that clear. that's it for us here. have a great weekend everyone. we'll see you monday. and at 8:00 p.m. tonight. don't mi yes, tonight. breaking tonight, the world demanding answers after the murder of nearly 300 innocent civilians in the skies of eastern europe including an american on vacation. i'm megyn kelly. welcome everyone. this is "the kelly file" special the shootdown of a malaysian airlines flight 17. tonight, the challenges are piling up as investigators try to find clues in the middle of a war zone. u.n. representatives were confronted by groups including pro-russian ukrainians at the crash site of malaysian airlines flight 17. the heavily armed rebels jock jockeying for control of the investigation, that gives you a feel for how it's going to go. the inspectors had to retreat after an hour-long standoff sent

on their way with warning shots fired by the rebel unit commander. while the u.n. cannot get to the crash site, some journalists have gathered new pictures. and firsthand accounts of what happened when a commercial plane like the ones we've all flown on is targeted by the state-of-the-art weaponry we saw here. we are told the plane came apart in midair. bodies of the passengers splaed out across a ten-mile stretch of fields along with passports, travel guides, luggage and the movie headphones many of the passengers were wearing apparently when death came out of nowhere. president obama today confirming that this american was killed, quinn lucas schansman is a dual dutch citizen. a fun loving college student who lived abroad on his way to meet family members vacationing in malaysia. in the most heart wrenchi ining images we see childrens toys like this stuffed animal. a man's wristwatch shattered,

frozen at what may have been the moment the plane hit the earth. the sheer chaos is becoming clear. instead of body bags and morgues, victims are covered in plastic sheets as who knows who is overlooking the site. this is not how anybody wanted to wind up. and this is certainly not how their families want their remains treated. more than 24 hours after the crash another person's body covered here just by a blanket on a playing field. instead of forensic experts searching for evidence of a missile strike, local men are doing the work. look at this extraordinary picture here against the sunflowers. every now and then a yell goes up when one discovers another victim. the remains are marked with a white rag tied to a stick. steve harigan just filed this report from kiev, ukraine. >> reporter: european crash expert officials from the osce are already on site in eastern

ukraine, but they say they're not being allowed to do their job by russian-backed rebels. here in the capital of kiev anger remains white hot with fingers pointed straight at russia. officials saying this was an act of terrorism by the russians. people on the street also pushing their government to respond with force to what they consider an outrageous action. it is difficult to form any analysis on the ground that's because where the plane went down about 25 miles from the russian border it's still an active fighting zone. you can hear the sound of russian-built grad rockets as well as gunfire in the area. and getting to that territory is no easy feat with many of the roads with checkpoints or roads destroyed as well. all sides still pointing the finger at each other, but the real question is what's going to happen next. will this be a motive for a possible cease-fire now that the global implications of this fight in eastern ukraine have become clear to everyone?

both president obama and president putin of russia have called for an immediate cease-fire, but with tensions now running so high that could prove to be a difficult challenge. back to you guys. >> steve harrigan, thank you. hours ago president obama at the white house made his most extensive remarks about the shootdown of mh-17 and the crisis in ukraine. here's some of that. >> i think it's important for us to recognize that this outrageous event underscores that it is time for peace and security to be restored in ukraine. for months we've supported a pathway to peace. and the ukrainian government has reached out to all ukrainians, put forward a peace plan and lived up to a cease-fire despite repeated violations by the separatists. violations that took the lives of ukrainian soldiers and personnel. moreover, time and again russia has refused to take the concrete steps necessary to de-escalate the situation. i spoke to president putin

yesterday in the wake of additional sanctions that we have imposed. he said he wasn't happy with them and i told him that we have been very clear from the outset that we want russia to take the path that would result in peace in ukraine, but so far at least russia has failed to take that path. >> our chief white house correspondent ed henry is live tonight at the white house. ed. >> reporter: megyn, new tonight vice president biden just a short time ago got off the phone with ukrainian president while president obama had a series of calls before heading to camp david for the weekend. talked to angela merkel of germany, prime ministers of australia and uk all with a unified message that they want to work together to demand that international investigators get into that crime scene. as you heard steve reporting, these separatists are armed, they're preventing investigators from getting in and there's real fear here at the white house tonight that vladimir putin is in the driver's seat and could be leading a cover-up of the evidence that's on the scene.

it was interesting very different contrast basically in tone between the president at the news conference we were talking about and ambassador of the united nations samantha power. she was much more aggressive. the president was saying, look, vladimir putin holds the cards here in terms of whether there's going to be a cease-fire on the ground there on the ukrainian/russian border or not. president said he was unsure where this investigation is headed. doesn't want to get ahead of the facts. samantha power is much more certain in saying they believe the separatists were behind this and ultimately a cease-fire is in the hands of vladimir putin. listen. >> this war can be ended. russia can end this war. russia must end this war. >> reporter: and at his news conference the president also took a u.s. military option off the table in terms of dealing with this crisis. instead he was saying this should be a wakeup call for our european allies to finally step up with new sanctions. the problem of course is twofold. europeans have balked at tough sanctions. they're worried if they go after

russia's economy it will boom rang on their own economies. and secondly the u.s. sanctions that have gone out unilaterally in weeks and months, they've hit the russian economy. they certainly don't appear to have stopped putin from doing what he wants. megyn. >> certainly not. ed, good to see you. add ed just mentioned the president took a much more cautious tone today seeming to suggest that this crisis and the solution to it is the job of the russians and ukrainians and not the united states. here are some of those remarks. >> we don't see a u.s. military role beyond what we've already been doing in working with our nato partners and some of the baltic states, giving them reassurances that we are prepared to do whatever is required to meet our alliance obligations. if mr. putin makes a decision that we are not going to allow heavy armaments and the flow of fighters into ukraine across the ukrainian/russian border, then

it will stop. and if it stops, then the separatists will still have the capacity to enter into negotiations and try to arrive at this sort of political accommodations that mr. putin himself says he wants to see. >> marc thiessen is a fellow at the american enterprise institute. marc, this time last night we were talking about the fact the president chose to go off to his new york city fundraisers while we were looking at almost 300 dead civilians in ukraine. and tonight we stand in a different place in that the president did come out, he made extensive remarks, he took questions. your thought on the message he brought? >> well, i was struck at the difference between the tone of his statement and the structure of his statement and what samantha power said at the u.n. good for her. she went out and laid out a searing case of russia. and she laid this -- the

responsibility of this act directly where it rests at vladimir putin's feet. she mentioned putin over and over again. president obama mentioned putin once in his prepared statement saying that he had spoken to him. she laid this right at putin's feet. >> and just hold that thought for one second because we have just a little comparison of the two to show viewers what you're talking about. >> russia, the separatists and ukraine all have the capacity to put an end to the fighting. >> this war can be ended. russia can end this war. russia must end this war. >> very different. >> very different. say vladimir putin is coming into the u.n. time and again and promised he wanted peace. and every single time he's failed to come through. she said he's responsible for this. she laid out details of the weapons that he's been providing. >> how does that happen? how is our u.n. ambassador and our president, how are they so on different pages? >> i know. it's like as if she sounded like

ronald reagan and he sounded like jimmy carter. how do we get to the point we're getting more resolve out of the u.s. mission to the united nations than we are to the white house? that's the situation we're in right now. i mean, the president barely mentioned putin. she lays this all out. she put it right at his feet. this is the kind of statement we should be hearing from the president of the united states. not the u.n. ambassador squl sgl this is relevant. marc talked last night about how you believe we stepped back in the world, you believe we projected weakness and believe weakness is provocative and raised the question of, all right, so that's where we are tonight, meaning last night. and now the question is now what are we going to do? now how are we going to behave? are we going to do something differently or project something different? what's your thought based on what you heard today? >> well, exactly. i mean, we're not seeing that shift we need to see. i'm a former presidential speech writer. so i know the president's words are important and they're underwhelming today. but i'm less concerned with his rhetoric than his action.

why does vladimir putin feel emboldened to seize crimea and to arm these separatists who just shut down a passenger plane out of the air? it's because obama's projecting weakness in the world. his intervention in ukraine started just a few months after president obama failed to enforce his red line in syria. >> i know you feel a lot of this goes back to syria, starts in damascus. >> absolutely. what happened in the skies over donetsk started with american inaction over the skies of damascus. the president failed to enforce his red line that assad could not use chemical weapons. turned to vladimir putin to get him out of it. >> you know what his critics say, marc? his defenders say well the u.s. congress didn't approve any action in syria. >> well, first of all, the u.s. congress doesn't need to approve. he's the commander in chief, he can take action. but his secretary of state announced we're going to have unbelievably small strikes.

who wants to get behind unbelievably small strikes? it's embarrassing. he then a few months later says to president putin if you go and intervene in ukraine there's going to be consequences. putin says yeah right. there were no consequences in syria and you threatened military action. this is why putin has felt emboldened to do this. it's not just putin. the iranians are looking at this, the syrians are looking at this, the chinese are looking at this, north korea's looking at this, al qaeda's looking at this. just as we saw consequences in ukraine this week that started in syria, the consequences of inaction now in ukraine and not imposing consequences might be felt somewhere else in the world. this is very dangerous stuff. we have to stop projecting weakness or tragedy is going to happen. >> people are watching us. and they're listening very carefully. marc, good to see you. >> thanks, megyn. so what about the president's suggestion? you heard it a moment ago that there is no military role for the united states here beyond supporting nato. joining me now retired four-star

general jack keane, a fox news military analyst. general, the president took military action or involvement or help squarely off the table today. was that the right move? >> well, no, absolutely not. first of all, i think, i totally associate myself with marc's comments about the failure of american leadership and the whole putin accountable for what's actually taken place here, this horrific tragedy. what a lost opportunity that is given the fact that the whole world is watching here. >> is that right now? because you're not a political guy. you're a military guy. but you think -- you believe that putin would not have been so bold if there were a stronger leader in the white house here? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, i've criticized president bush during the surge process and before he made the decision to do it and for other things that he did as well. but this is a failure of american leadership here. make no mistake about it. that has brought us to this horrific place. secondly, what the president should be doing is working with

the ukrainian government, we've got initially a problem with the site. get the ukrainian government, invite the dutch commandos and paratroopers to help secure the site, bring the malaysians in if they need more help. it's their people laying out there on that field. they own most of that airplane, not all of it, but the tragedy. and who could stand in the way of something like that being taken place? secondly, we have got to step up and help the ukrainians. we should be providing them the military aid they have requested. this is arms, ammunition and training. and that's got to take place. the president should be organizing talking to the eu and nato about this act and what is the call to action that is going to take place on the part of nato to deal with this. >> you know, he seems to want, general, an investigation. you know, similar to what we've heard in response to other terrorist attacks elsewhere that we need to fully investigate it before we do anything about it.

>> will, i absolutely think he's hiding behind the investigation because it delays and it will take weeks to do something like that. the fact of the matter is, megyn, when you have crisis, you don't always do the first thing to de-escalate the crisis. it depends on the crisis. in this crisis you should confront the adversary who caused the crisis. and that is putin and russia. lay out the case to the world because they're watching that he has been conducting a covert proxy war in ukraine, that he has directed his officers, fsb, his intelligence, his special ops guys are in charge of that war. he's using ukrainian proxies as foot soldiers. and he is providing heavy equipment, technology, arms ammunition. lay that case out for the world to see. and then galvanize support in terms of an adversary position to him.

it's not about de-escalation in this case, it's about confronting the thug that is conducting a covert war in ukraine at the expense of the ukrainian people. >> fascinating. jen keane, thank you so much for your insight ts. >> good talking to you, megyn, as always. our next guest thinks the president is doing exactly the right thing when it comes to russia. senior fellow at the -- and former secretary of defense in the reagan administration. larry, good to see you again. where's the general, where's marc going wrong? >> i think, for example, marc mentioned president reagan and how forceful he was. the very interesting thing was after the shootdown of the korean airliner in 1983 with 61 americans including a congressman die, reagan said and these were his exact words, we have to respond in a calm, controlled but firm manner. and his spokesman said this is not just the united states, soviet union and the united states and the world. what happened when he didn't do

anything, he used harsh words four days after he spoke to the american people, not right away like obama has, he used these harsh words but didn't do anything. he kept negotiating with the russians. >> reagan was on vacation when he got that news. he came back from vacation and made an address. he had several meetings with top cabinet officials. >> he didn't speak for four days later. four days. and he used these tough words, savagery, monstrous, murderers and didn't do anything. >> what did president obama do exactly? what we heard today is military options are off the table, we're going to talk to nato, there's going to be an investigation and figure out who did it. his u.n. ambassador was saying it was russia, it was russia, it was russia. >> well, obviously u.n. ambassador had this cleared with the white house when she said this. >> why won't he say it? why does samantha power have to say it? >> basically he said i've talked to putin -- >> no, he didn't say russia did it. we played the sound bite. >> he said russia has sent this

equipment in here. and he talked about the fact that they shot down other planes. >> he was equivocating talking about the russians and the ukrainians and those pro-russian ukrainians and so on. samantha power was so much more forceful and explicit that the administration, she at least, believed that russia did it and russia can end this. you heard. now, that's our white house reporter ed henry. these are the facts, larry. the question is why? why wouldn't our commander in chief be as direct as the u.n. ambassador? is there some messaging problem? is he failing to confront the giant, putin? >> no. obama's -- first of all, he's put very strict sanctions on and he wants to get the europeans to join in there. so you don't want to get too far out in front of them. but, you know, it's interesting with the u.n. ambassador, gene kirk patrick always more forceful than reagan, stevenson during the cuban missile crisis, he was much more -- >> okay. i would ask them about that back

then, but i was only 12. so now i'm much older. and i've got you sitting here. and i want to know why. explain it to me. because it seems to me if i'm the commander in chief, i'm feeling pretty good about my microphone, my power and a lot of responsibility in my role to the american people and if my administration believes that vladimir putin did this, then i'm going to say vladimir putin did it. or if i have some strategic reason for not doing that, i'm not going to send my u.n. ambassador to say that while i'm not comfortable saying it myself. >> no, she said there's no -- it seems to be there's no other explanation. but the fact of the matter is that the president says something and it turns out not to be true, we know putin's at fault. he gave the equipment. but we don't know why they shot it down. they may have thought it was another plane. just like we did when we shot down an iranian airliner. you don't know that. you've got to be very, very careful before you do that. but the way to deal with this is not militarily. it's economically.

and that's the sanctions we put on. and putin was upset about the sanctions that obama put on two days ago and called him to talk about it. >> that's what they were talking about that morning. >> right. >> before i let you go, quick question, do you believe the president should have gone to those fundraisers last night? >> well, i don't like any politicians going to fundraisers. i think there's too much of that. but he was certainly kept aware of what was going on. >> that didn't answer my question. should he have done that? >> well, again, i would not have gone to a fundraiser, no, i think they should have sent somebody else. maybe his u.n. ambassador to the fundraiser. >> yeah. larry, good to see you. well, we also have reports tonight that investigators have recovered the missile that took out this plane. and up next, we will look at how that may give us new clues in the effort to figure out exactly what happened here. plus, around the world a growing number of dangerous groups now have access to the kind of fire power that can easily bring down a commercial aircraft. we have buck sexton here to

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breaking tonight, we are learning more about the missile being blamed in this shootdown of malaysian flight 17 several miles above ukraine. fox news national security correspondent jennifer griffin is live in washington tonight with more. jennifer. >> reporter: megyn, ukraine's interior ministry has released video today of what it says is the sa-11 missile launcher, the one purportedly used to shoot down the malaysian plane. it was heading toward the

russian border. videotaped at dawn this morning by ukrainian police. the pentagon cannot confirm this is the actual sa-11 used in the strike. two of its four missiles appear to have been fired. >> whether it was russian military unit that did it or it was a separatist unit that did it, we don't know. whether it was a system that was driven across the border by russians and then handed off, we don't know. we just don't know. >> nato supreme ally commander general phillip breedlove warned on june 30th from the pentagon podium that the u.s. had evidence that the russian military was training the separatists on how to use vehicle borne anti-aircraft weapons similar to the type used to bring down the malaysian plane. >> what we see in training on the east side of the border is big equipment, tanks, apcs, antiaircraft capability. now we see those capabilities

being used on the west side of the border. >> reporter: to the ukraine side of the border. the pentagon did not dispute general breedlove's assessment that the russians have been training the separatists on antiaircraft systems. >> i don't know exactly what system he was referring to, but we would agree with his assessment that some separatists have received some training in these vehicle borne systems. >> because of the technical complexity of the sa-11, it is unlikely to be able to operate without assistance from knowledgeable personnel. thus we cannot rule out technical assistance from russian personnel in operating the systems. >> reporter: meanwhile, those 10 to 12,000 russian troops that the pentagon announced earlier in the week were newly amassed on the ukraine border. those troops have not been ordered to leave the border by russian president vladimir putin. they are still there, megyn. >> wow, says a lot. jennifer, thank you. joining me now with more,

colonel oliver north, the host of "war stories" here on fnc. he was assigned to the security staff during the reagan administration and author of the new book "counterfeit lies." colonel, good to see you. you had an exchange today at the state department that kept saying we're going to see this investigation through before we make a judgment. the president also talking about the investigation that needs to take place before laying the blame for this on the russians. what say you? >> and he's also announced what he's not going to do. he's taken a "military option off the table." interestingly, megyn, it's been about 36 hours since this terrorist attack occurred, and that's what it was, murder. the obama administration is yet to blame it on a video, so that's probably some degree of progress. and one ought not to attack those who have just been on larry korb was once one of my professors at the war college before i joined the reagan administration national security council staff. interestingly enough, the

interest, professor korb and all those listening a moment ago, isn't just the way ronald reagan said things and the way barack obama says them. the difference is that ronald reagan was in the business of rebuilding america's defenses. and we all know now that barack obama is disabling. we're unilaterally disarming and everybody knows it. the problem that's happening right now on the ukraine/russia border is vladimir putin knows we're not going to do anything. and that missile that was fired, whether it was one or two from that transporter erector launcher, that device requires years of training. and so what you just heard samantha power say what was reiterated by both general br d breedlove and admiral kirby, could not be done without some very sophisticated training, more than you can get in a couple of weeks as a militiamen. >> how long? >> very likely that russians were involved in the launch of

that missile that brought down that commercial airline. >> how long would it take if oliver north needed to train somebody on how to use one of these, how long would it take? >> well, the training manual the russians have say for proficiency two years of training to become a noncommission officer operating that particular system on the buk missile system with an sa-11 or sa-20 even more training. so you're talking years, not weeks. certainly not days. >> and does that tell you anything? does that tell you it was likely a russian operating it? or simply that the russians have been helping these guys along? >> it tells me that there's certainly obviously russians in the communications that have been intercepted. it tells me russians have been deeply involved in the process of getting those weapons systems into the hands, if you will, just across the border apparently. the telemetry indicates it was on the ukrainian side of the border. i would find it very difficult to believe that there weren't russians intimately involved in the actual tracking and firing of that weapon system.

just to go further on something we said yesterday on not this broadcast but an earlier one yesterday, i mentioned the training aspect of this. i also said at the time that i had been told that gru -- >> that's russian. >> were transporting boxes back to russia. i was told just a short while ago, megyn, that one of those black boxes has not yet been found. i can't verify that, but it would mean that perhaps it's the voice cockpit recorder or the data recorder that's got all that information on it. everybody remembers the last malaysian air flight that went down. it had a pinger. that pinger works whether it's under water or in the air. it's almost indestructible even after something as calamitous as what we've seen the video of thus far. if that's true, there ought to be a nato -- this is military exercise, right? a nato operation to recover that

black box if it's still on the ground in ukraine. >> uh-huh. >> they ought to do this quickly so that that information is not tampered with, destroyed or eradica eradicated. >> it's incredible when you watch the scene and see people walking around amid what's basically a crime scene, to put it mildly. and one wonders who's walking away with the evidence. colonel oliver north, thank you so much, sir. >> exactly. megyn. a growing number of terror groups around the world now have their hands on powerful and deadly weapons that can shoot planes out of the sky, as we just saw. buck sexton is ahead with a closer look at what that means for commercial air travel. plus, live pictures and breaking news from gaza city tonight where we just heard a very big series of explosions. don't go away. >> whoa! whoa! whoa! >> fox crew just steps away from the fire fight while the israeli prime minister issues a new warning about what is next. we are live in gaza with john huddy, who you see right there, wondering what that is?

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whoa! whoa! whoa! >> and it went on from there. john huddy is live right now in gaza city. john, it does not look good. >> reporter: no. and that's just one of several air strikes that we've had in the area tonight, megyn. probably by my count about four, four or five over the course of the last couple hours. that one happened -- that was the most recent one, by the way. this has been a pattern. i mean, we've had that kind of action before in the seven, eight days we've been here now, but not with such frequency as we have seen tonight. and during the past 24 hours really the battle has intensified quite a bit. and along with those air strikes, by the way, we've seen incoming artillery shots just across the street actually, a location -- i think we have video of that from earlier that was being targeted apparently a naval vessel offshore was firing on a target there.

that was just right across the street from us. so dangerously close at this point. and this is really intensified. just the fighting, the artillery fire, the air strikes including several -- i thought i heard some explosions behind me. but over the course of the last 24 hours since ground troops -- israeli ground troops started the offensive coming into gaza, things have been really ratcheted up. and now they're pushing even deeper into gaza. they came in from the north, came in from the east. by the way, the north is behind me in the distance you can see those lights, that's israel. they've been pushing in from the north and east as well. right now 70,000 troops remain amassed on the border. the objective going after hamas' network of underground tunnels. at this point it's quiet, but we've seen it intensify and it could happen just like that. megyn. >> what's amazing is we watch you, you know, a member of the press out there trying to cover this conflict. israel warns the terrorists before it bombs.

it warns them. it tells them exactly where it's going to drop the bombs and to evacuate. and yet hamas refuses to do it. they want some civilian casualties. they bragged about the fact that they're willing to die and they think they can use them as a propaganda. their own dead civilians. but as we wat you, john, you can see you're only human. we can feel your fear during certain moments. and, you know, calling out to the lord in that one moment. is it frightening to you? is it hard to understand how some of these residents, you know, members of hamas and other palestinians are choosing to stay right in the heart of it? >> reporter: yeah. oh, absolutely. but at the same time we have seen a lot of people leave their homes and go to some of the shelters that were set up. and it is, it's heartbreaking. for me having being here and even my veteran, you know, war shooter, mal james, he's done this a heck of a lot more than me.

he's been in iraq, afghanistan, so he knows the drill. but whenever something is that close including the artillery, air strikes, the natural tendency is to get down. and sure it's frightening. as far as the people bho who stay in their homes and are being used, yeah, as human shields according to military officials by hamas, you know, it's unconscienceabkonsable. they go to the shelters and flee for that reason because it's absolutely terrifying. >> john, you've been doing great work. thank you for being here with us tonight. want to bring in kt mcfarland who held national security posts in the nixon, ford and reagan administrations. kt, it's incredible to see what's actually happening there. and there are reports today the israeli ambassador actually said that hamas is actually putting its weapons in ambulances and in schools, kindergarten, elementary schools. they're putting their rockets in

elementary schools because either they don't think the israelis will bomb those or they will bomb those and then turn around and say look at the evil israelis. >> exactly. hamas understands it is never going to defeat israel on the battlefield. hamas can fire rockets into israel. israel's created an iron dome to destroy those rockets. hamas will try to send suicide bombers in the tunnels. they know that israel will be able to crush those tunnels, collapse those tunnels. so what has hamas decided? they can maybe win in the court of public opinion. if they can make the israelis look like the aggressors, if they can show a body kound of hamas, if they can show the palestinian women and children in the body bags, then they go to the court of public opinion and say we're not the bad guys. it's israel murdering our people. and then what happens maybe the u.n. steps away and israel's allies step away. ultimately i think what their goal is to drive a wedge between

the united states and israel. because if the united states hesitates or walks away from israel, then israel is really all on its own in the most dangerous neighborhood in the world. >> and what they said, the israeli ambassador to the u.n. claims hamas is using ambulances filled with children to move their terrorists around gaza. they're putting their terrorists right in the middle of children inside ambulances. that is who israel is dealing with over there. kt, i got to ask you, how do you see this ending? >> well, the longer this goes on -- time is not israel's friend. the longer it goes on, the body count goes up. children are being used. hamas puts weapons in schools, hospital parking lots. they put them where they know they will draw the most civilian casualties. so israel faces the choice either go in and destroy the weapons depots, destroy the military targets at the same time having civilian casualties or walk away. they know they're trying to push

israel in the position of showing israel to be the bad guy even though it was hamas that started this fight. >> kt, thank you. this is why people criticize the president for what they think sounds like equivocation. israel does this wrong and hamas does that wrong and they want him to be more forceful in favor of israel and against hamas. but the united states is also trying to pursue a role as a peace broker. and they would argue that's tough to do when you've condemned fully the one side, although there's plenty of arguments on both sides. up next, is the fear of a ground-to-air strike missile a frightening new reality for air travelers after the downing of the flight mh-17? we know how many bad, bad people in the world are now getting their hands on sophisticated technology. do we need to fear this? former cia officer buck sexton is here next. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality for over 19 million people. [ susan ] my promotion allowed me to start investing for my retirement. transamerica made it easy.

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the malaysian plane in ukraine threatening new fears. buck sexton national security editor at the blaze, buck, good to see you. do we need to worry about this, isis getting hands on sophisticated technology? >> yes. we've been worrying about it for a long time. the threat is not as much as what we just saw happened to the malaysian plane. it's really more from a man p.a.d., something you can put on your shoulder and shoot pretty easily. >> how high up can that go? >> they can go thousands and thousands of feet but not to 30,000 feet except for the most very advanced versions you'll see. we have to worry about some of the older ones like the gadhafi stockpiles, nobody knows where tens of thousands of those shoulder fire missiles have gone. >> if the terrorists who want to kill us have access to those,

wouldn't we have been seeing them use them? >> i've never heard a compelling reason from the intelligence community why it is we haven't seen more of these strikes. people say about 50 attempts have been made. this is a post-world war ii phenomena. about 50 attempts have been made or strikes have been attempted. >> how protected are we in general by the fact that they take so much training to use? in this case we heard oliver north talking about how it could be two years to learn how to fire one of these things. >> that's for the sa-11, which is a complex system. >> but we are now worried about things like the sa-11 now that these guys have their hands on it. who else did russia give those to? >> the big thing is when you give to iraq, a fledgling, taken over by an insurgency, the insurgents get whatever the iraqis have. >> and worry about copy cats too. once it's put into their heads by something like this, we tend to worry more about it. but should we? how much sophistication is required? >> the good news is the odds are

dramatically,in fi tes mally small chance you're going to have this problem going forward, any individual would. and the way we deal with it are perhaps in the future they'll put countermeasures on civilian aircraft. in the meantime count terrorism operations and just hoping that the luck will keep going the way that it has. for the most part. obviously there are sop aberrations. >> and don't go over dicey air space areas. >> you definitely don't want to fly over a war zone unless you have a really good reason. >> poor people never saw it coming. that wasn't restricted air space where they were, but it was nearby. buck, good to see you. >> good to see you. up next, the tv reporter working for russia today quitting her job over the plane shootdown. we'll explain more after the brea ♪ [ cat meows ] ♪ ♪ da-da-da-da-da, bum-da, bum-da ♪ ♪ bum-da, bum-da ♪ the animals went in two by two ♪ ♪ the sheep and the frog and the kangaroo ♪ ♪ and they all went marching, marching in two by two ♪ ♪

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another correspondent quitting. the russian news outlet, rt, and wait until you hear the reason why. trace gallagher with more from our west coast bureau. trace. >> reporter: megyn, rt formerly known as russia today is an english language news channel funded by the kremlin. the last straw came shortly after the crash of malaysian flight 17 when rt's coverage was focused on blaming ukraine for firing the missile but failing to mention those same missile systems were also controlled by the pro-russian separatists. she tweeted "rt style guide rule one, it is always ukraine's fault, add name as applicable. in other words blame anyone but russia." she goes onto claim that rt has spread russian propaganda for years and used young obedient reporters on big stories who are likely to stay on message. rt responded saying "sarah has declared she chooses the truth, apparently we have different definitions of truth.

we believe truth is what our reporters see on the ground with their own eyes and not what's printed in the morning london newspaper." the network also says they're not surprised by her resignation because she indicated she was likely to take an offer from another network. but sarah is now the third rt reporter to slam the network for being putin's puppet. in march d.c.-based anchor liz wall quit on the air after she called rt's bias coverage of the ukrainian protests. another reporter who also criticized the network, megyn, is still working there. >> she's a brave woman for doing that. however, she should be told to never let the cameraman never shoot you from down there because nobody looks good from down at that angle, am i right? right? thank you. it's not flattering. no one looks good like that. yes, that's fine. from across the desk, absolutely. but down there, don't do it. we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] this is the age of knowing what you're made of.

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