kimberly guilfoyle. it's 8:00 in new york city and this is a special edition of the five. tonight, new developments on the passenger plane shot down overee crawn. president obama says pro-russian separatists are to blame. did vladimir putin help them? that's what the world wants to know. also tonight, israeli troops are pushing deeper into gaza and its ground offensive to cripple hamas. prime minister benjamin netanyahu has ordered them to prepare for a significantly wider campaign that could last up to two weeks. we have team fox coverage. john huddy is in gaza city, ed henry is at the white

house. but, first, we begin with steve harrigan in kiev. ukraine. steve? >> european crash expert officials from the osce are already on site in eastern ukraine they say they are not allowed to do their. anger remains white hot with fingers pointed straight at russia. this was an act of terrorism by the russians. people on the street also pushing their government to respond with force to what they consider an outrageous action. it is difficult to form any analysis on the ground. that's because where the plane went down about 2 a miles from the russian border. it's still an active fighting zone. can you hear the sound of russian-built grad rockets as well as gunfire in the area. and getting to that territory is no easy feat with many of the roads with checkpoints or roads destroyed as well. all sides still pointing the finger at each other, but the real question is what is going to happen next?

will this be a motive for a possible cease-fire now that the global implications of this fight in eastern ukraine have become clear to everyone. both president obama and president putin of russia have called for an immediate cease-fire but with tensions now running so high, that could prove to be a difficult challenge. back to you guys. >> thanks, steve. let's go now to fox news john huddy in gaza city where israel is stepping up its ground and air offensive. john? >> well, the past 24 hours has been some of the bloodiest and also most intense fighting. so far in operation protective edge. and some of that fighting has come very close to us. in fact, just about 10 minutes ago there was a heavy missile strike just behind the location where we are. and we're kind of on guard at this point because there has been several in this area. there was also incoming artillery fire across the street on a location along the coast here. all day that's been the case

since all this started last night. when ground troops started moving in over the israel/gaza border. we have seen and heard a the love explosions, a lot of fighting to the north. and now troops are pushing even further into gaza city. and a lot of that action has been in and around our location as i said. the number one objective here in operation protective edge is to go in and root out the underground tunnels, the network of tunnels created by hamas throughout a network of them zigzagging under gaza, gaza city, north gaza, east gaza as well. that's where troops primarily are staged right now. more than 70,000 troops are amasted at this point along the border. so, we're expecting things to intensify throughout the evening into the overnight hours and the early morning. right now, according to my watch, it is just past 3:00 a.m. so this is when things really start kick kicking off as we have seen the past 11 days. back to you. >> thanks, john. now to the white house where ed henry has new reaction

from president obama today. ed? >> kimberly, the president just got off the phone with a series of world leaders. he is headed to camp david for the weekend. before leaving was on the phone with the prime minister of australia, u.k. talking mostly about trying to build support for getting international investigators into ukraine to basically investigate the crime scene. right now, we're told separatists are still armed on the scene, preventing investigators from getting in there. there is great fear here at the white house, that evidence is going to be taken to russia, including the black boxes. there is going to be a coverup. that's something the president has been forceful on. what he has been less forceful on and a very interesting contrast in tone today between he and samantha power, his ambassador to the united nations. at a news conference here at the white house. the president very cautious about what to do with vice vladimir putin. how to respond to russia. if in fact they were involved directly or indirectly here shooting down the jet liner. the president said we still don't have all the evidence. we don't want to get ahead of the facts. also saying that you know,

he is going to take the military option, the u.s. military option off the table. republican john mccain says this she's the president's leadership has been awol. listen. >> we don't see u.s. military role beyond what we have already been doing in working with our nato partners and some of the baltic states, giving them reassurances that we are prepared to do whatever is required to meet our alliance obligations. >> there is a perception of american weakness throughout the world and we are paying a very heavy price for it. and we will continue to until we have restoration of american strength. >> big focus on what's next here. the president taking that military option off the table. so, the focus is on sanctions. the president today making the case that this should be a wakeup call for european allies to step up with tougher sanctions against russia. but, so far, european allies have rejected that they are worried it will boomerang on

their own economies if they go after russia number one. number two the u.n. sanctions have had impact on the russian economy but they have seemed to have little impact on putin and his actions. kimberly. >> ed henry live from the white house. let's talk about next steps. ed henry mentioning some economic sanctions. what next steps we need to take going forward. of course we also heard update regarding investigation. rebels and separatists are still blocking access to that forensic rich. what happened and who is responsible. >> head pointed out that the president is cautious. if you think back 30 years -- 30 when president reagan was president, the russians knocked down a korean airliner, 26 the people died in that. president reagan came out very forcefully with the russians and they backed off. said right. sanctions, that's what we need to do. i think ed points out that the european union is nervous about sanctions. frankly a lot of the european union gets a lot of their oil and gas from russia and they are worried about any sort of stoppage or prices going higher for

them. so you want to put some pressure on russia. i talked about the earlier show that maybe we put some sanctions on russia in the oil business. i got a better idea. you know, thinking about this. let's do, i don't know, let's help out the european union with oil prices. if they go higher, we will help them out and ship them some oil and natural gas. we will arrange for natural gas to go there i will tell you they would immediate yaftly fix their problem with russia shah. >> to provide incentive for them to come stand side by side with the united states. >> correct. >> and pressing russia with economic sanctions that will meaning. you also heard john mccain speaking there greg, talking about the absence of a leadership or meaningful input from the united states that the world leaders including and most especially putin are not standing back when it comes to facing president obama on this. >> yeah. i mean it, seems like in certain crises, obama is more mia than casey kasem. crime scene is ruined. we have to understand, it is our crime scene. there was an american killed there. i don't know why we were

asking russia for help in this or any -- or -- what they are doing is violating a law. this is -- this is a crime scene that involves russians, as far as i can tell. this is about other countries finding their -- finding about their loved ones and finding out what happened. the other thing is, saying that there are no military options is really stupid thing to say. because there is a military option. and it is not -- it doesn't mean war, it means troops. it means sending troops to certain countries nearby which will tick off putin and also military option is building up our military. we are drawing down right now. maybe it's time to build back up. because the world is a dangerous place. it's an ugly place, and if we are not here to help fix the problem, then we are part of the problem. you can't maintain freedom unless you make some ugly, tough choices. >> all right. andrea? >> well, putin feels he can do whatever he wants because for years now we have been perceived as weak. the president has made

promises to the russians, everywhere remembers that open mike moment he is drawing red lines that he has not enforced. now we are basically saying we trust you along with other countries to investigate. this they have already ran sakdz the crime scene. the black boxes are already gone. and then we hear that there may not be a black box on the ground. we also have this report coming from the associated press. one of the separatist leaders is trying to give this bizarre theory and this one is really incredible. that the people on the plane were already dead. did you hear that one? i mean, the bizarre is really start to come out. it's pretty obvious who was behind. this also obvious that president obama is sticking to the item let when things happen, he just calls for investigation, whether it's an international crisis or whether it's one here at home. and it's going to be no different. >> we got to go to a tease. >> no, we don't. >> i'm sorry,. >> bob, i have a question for you because the critics are saying that the president gave a very measured dispassionate speech when he could have had an opportunity there to hold putin personally responsible? is this a missed opportunity. >> no it was not a missed

opportunity. let me say three things very quickly. you talk about the korean airline. russia backed up. shot the thing out of the air, number one, number two, the idea about the military. nobody in their right mind would consider military action in the crimea. did he say that he was willing to go allies in the ball cans to ensure them. that's a fair thing to say. this is the worst thing to happen to putin. what it is going to do galvanize the international community. i think he is sitting back there saying i blew it who is going to get the black books. invade to get the black boxes. >> absolutely. we already have people nearby. we should be going in there and getting that that does not belong. >> john mccain never comes up. he says -- he never comes up with an answer. what are you going to do? >> i gave him an answer. >> you did but he didn't. these guys shoot their mouth up but didn't come with an answer. >> time has been lost because the black box, items have been removed from the crime scene that would be very helpful in the investigation. >> and that is obama's fault? >> no. putin, russia is saying they

will handle the investigation and they will let us know what happened. when we come back, are vladimir putin's fingerprints on the downing of the plane in ukraine. you will hear an intercepted phone call that may just implicate the russian leader. this special edition of the five returns in a moment. @pp@p

back now to the downing of the jet in ukraine. interesting new details on the investigation. let's go to her live in washington. jennifer? >> andrea, state department spokesman jen sock can i confirmed earlier today there was one american on board flight 17. a dual dutch citizen.

we have a photograph of quinn now i understand. u.s. officials repeatedly hinted earlier today at russian involvement in downing the plane. the pentagon confirmed it was a russian-made sa 11 missile that brought down the malaysian flight, fired from inside ukraine adding the separatists could not have done it by themselves. >> see no hint at russian support for the separatists has seized. in fact we believe that russia continues to provide them with financing as well and they continue to allow these fighting to enter freely. >> just 20 minutes after the plane wept down this man, the self-proclaimed minister of defense for the russian separatists is heard talking to a russian military intelligence officer according to telephone intercepts released by the ukraine government. the rebel commander is essentially reporting back to it a colonel in the

russian military's main intelligence department inside russia. >> the plane fell apart in the air. in the area of petro mine. the first 200. we have found the first 200. a civilian, well, what do you have there? >> this war can be ended. russia can end this war. russia must end this war. >> ukrainian officials say this is the smoking gun. these telephone intercepts of the separatists reporting back to russian intelligence. andrea? >> all right. thanks, jennifer. lawmakers say there is no doubt putin has his hands all over this. >> it does appear the buk missile system is so complicated that it would need to back up from a nation state like russia. that would mean that russian armed forces are directly involved in this wrongful death of roughly 300 people. >> it's a missile that came from russia or it was from

the separatists and it's a buk-style missile. i mean, this came from russia. russia has their fingerprints all over it. >> if it's indirect. maybe not an act of war but certainly an act of criminal negligence and russia would have to bear responsibility. >> senator carl levin went a step further. quote, whoever did it should pay a full price if it's by a country either directly or indirectly then it could be considered an act of war. okay, eric, you referenced reagan earlier. and i think you and i have agreed on a lot of different issues. we are not neocons, we don't believe in military action every time. the president failed today to outline or else, what? if putin does not take ownership of this? >> therein lies the problem. that's what a lot of us on the right are saying where's can we foe us cuss on putin here? this man does have the blood of all these people on his hands. no way ukraine military has figured out a way to not

only get their hands on this russian buk system. but to be able to deliver this missile on top of it as effectively. if it's separatists putin has a little bit of a buffer. if you find out that they are actually russian military personnel who fired that rocket, that's going to be right around putin's neck. and that, in fact, is an act of war. and as bob pointed out earlier, the international community will have to come forward and make them pay for that. >> kimberly, it was a known fact, ronald reagan had a very cogent policy when it came to the soviets. they knew if they were to pull any funny biz. there was going to be repercussions by the united states of america. president obama took military action off the table today and has imposed very weak sanctions. do you think the russians are fearful? >> no, i don't. i think that they are not fearful at all. in fact, they have been pretty bold and brazen with respect to their response here. my concern, you look at this from a perspective. you see the crime scene.

there is questions and concerns about whether or not that has been tampered with whether or not the russians have removed things from the scene. then there is some questions about specific intent. did they intend to shoot down a commercial aircraft or with were they trying to shoot down something else? is it t. doesn't matter. the law won't excuse it. transferred intent. all the things we have to look at to determine who should be held accountable and whether or not we can can create a nexus between this act of terrorism and directly tie it to russia. >> greg, the soviets did this twice. once in the carter administration. one in the reagan administration. i don't think this is what putin wants. a commercial airliner going down. i think it probably was a mistake. it doesn't help him. it doesn't make it look good. i don't think he really cares at this point. because the international community is not coalescing to stand up to him. and when we saw the europeans, they tried green energy. it didn't work. now they are still relying on russia. you will talked about energy independence back here at home. one of these moments see this is why it matters. >> i want to focus on the phone calls, because they seem. like if i was putin, you know what putin is going to

say? obviously these were actors hired by the ukraine. and it was planted because that's what you actually, you know, you are hearing things like that on russia today, the most insane network on this planet. they made prague seem like fox news. they were so far to the wacky, they are saying that kiev, the ukraine might have actually shot down the plane and blamed it on the russians. the fact is malaysian -- the malaysian airplane flew over there to save fuel, which was a mistake, i think. and i think their airline is finished. and i think also, i think russia today as a network is finished. they have anchors quitting because they are lying to people people. maybe something good will come out of this. there will be no more russia today. >> bob, you heard some democrats that we quoted, senator carl levin among others today, taking a pretty firm stance. even samantha power. can you see a bit of a democrat divide in the next couple of weeks if they are separating from the president's response with something stronger?

>> no. because just like ronald reagan, they are not going to be able to do anything about it i can't think of one single thing you talk about that airplane with reagan. i don't see it let's leave that aside. the point here is that this is, this i believe, will be the unraveling of putin. i think that we were the only ones to put on sanctions. obama was the only person who step forward. all those others wouldy -- wussy countries didn't do it. give them oil if they need it. this is going to be a real unraveling for putin. both domestically and internationally. >> it looks like a strengthening of putin though. >> shooting down of civilian airplane. >> president obama says military action is not on the table. >> why should have to be afraid of. >> what are you going to do? invade ukraine? it's like listening to john mccain? shoot your mouth off all you want. in the opposition easy to say he is weak. >> just move the troops close there. >> i see, okay. >> not a bad idea.

but also go at them where it really hurts russia. the thing that could hurt russia is the petra dollar, if you go ahead and subsidize the oil transfers to other parts of western and eastern -- western europe. >> force them into a recession, an economic recession that's what you need to do. >> squeeze them where it hurts. >> all right. coming up, whenever there is a crisis, president obama always seems to be in a dining room rather than a situation room. well, yesterday, he hit the fundraising circuit last night right here in the big apple. just hours after the plane went down in ukraine. we'll discuss his presidential priorities when we come back on this very special edition of the five.

when what is murder is committed, someone must pay. and last night, someone did. tickets for thursday'se democratic party fundraiser featuring our president went for 32 grand. is it wrong to sigh. after benghazi off to a i fundraiser. after the border mess it was w off to a fundraiser. after this attack, well, you see the trend.is comfort zone campaigning. we emotional and substantial and driven by sloganeering. on e opposite of governance. the attacks shouldn't be a chance for a blow hard like to jab the president. why does he make it so easy? it's a leadership style where the choices are so weird even libs wonder wheremake his hat is at. even josh grow ban and piers morgan. if he is playing it cool or is he not playing at all, i don't know.tc

sometimes is he like a team retreating to his room withing his comic books. separatists might have the back black box. why not demand its return. forever all we now it's now with snowden. somethin' tells me he won't leak that so as france sales to two assault you ships to russia. not sailing anye boats. it would be nice if we knewy is he was driving with at least one hand on the wheel. thein bear may be loose but t for now it's winnie the pooh. all right, been. w i think i was fair. i'm not shaming him. i'm trying to coach him. do you think he should have skipped the fundraiser. >> i think he should havedo y skipped the fundraiser. this election is crucial for democrats. and we are way behind rightiser now. it needs a the lo of money. so, these things, 32,000 don't happen very often.w an that's not an excuse for not moving the thing. leaving that aside. what do people expect him to do. this motion that somehow he should just close ranks,o goat got to situation room and sit there and do, what?

>> act presidential. >> it is not -- wait, wait. it's not the president's job to go to the situation room>> over something he could do nothing about. he can't do anything about a downed aircraft in ukraine. >> that's so inaccurate. >> what can he do?abou >> guess what,. >> you want to hear? because he shouldn't be out worrying about whether or not his party has enough, yocuu know, change to win theorr next election. he should be sitting at the table with national securityw, council members and getting information realtime updates about exactly what happened. what's goingwi on. because he isal the president of the united states. >> you don't think he is getting realtime updates when he is on air force one.happ >> i think when he is of greeting people and doing photo ops it's actually a distraction. his head then is not in the game. he is not getting those updates while he is he talking to donors. i'm sorry. >> got the updates all threw the night last night. i said in the beginning i didn't think he should be going through a fundraiser. i don't think the idea that somehow he is going to be able to do something about it any more than anybody

else can do anything about it. what's going on in gaza. >> to defend the president, does he a stick to the schedule as part of a philosophy of representing the business as usual so people aren't worried in a panic. so he says hey if i'm going about my regular day, so should you. >> you know how yesterday we were supposed to be on at 5:00 but we weren't because something came up. you know what? something camest up. and they did what they were supposed to do. stuff comes up. and when the president -- maybe you don't stick to the script. when. benghazi happens, maybe you don't go to vegas. i don't know when russia annexes crimea, you don't go y to do two fundraisers. the v.a. scandal breaks you do two in chicago that night. the big one at the border israis being flooded with the illegals. you go to the border. you don't go to the border and go to two fundraisers drink beer and play pool. the man has checked out, g bob. as much as you like him, is he not playing president anymore. he is he playing future expresident right now. >> he is trying to hold on to the congress.ol >> putting a lot of his

ducks in a row. >> i trying to hold on to t the yats senate and very difficult to do it. but, if i were him. i would do everything iro could to get that done. that's going to determine his next two years. >> politics shouldn't be around here in this particular issue.olit andrea, he is no drama pa obama. that made him so cool. that positive is now a negative. wouldn't you say? >> it's definitely a negative. why does it always have toit be about him. bob says he has to hold on to the senate because then he have a bad upcoming twobob years. guess what? we should all hold our breath because it's going to be a really bad next two years for everybody else in the country.we you said you are trying to be coach him. i think he is uncoachable. bob said what do you expect tr him to do? i will tell you what igreg expect him not to do. to not have open mike deals done about flexibility afterdo elections. i expect him to not impose weak sanctions on russia. i expect him to not try andr disarm our nuclear defenses. i expect him to encouraget ukraine to join nato so they can be stronger.ct i also expect him to be

strong. i mean, look, if he can't enforce our own borders, is to he not going to be able to enforce the borders of other countries. so you know what i say? good. let him go. i would much rather have him not playing in hard cities where real armies can march. let him call gay athletes and do war on women press ha conferences birth control and infrastructure. i don't want him playing on a global stage because is he going to puddle muddle it and mess it up so everybody hold your nose and hang on. the next two years are going to be crazy. >> the largest single cut in our nuclear warheads was mycr ronald reagan only way putin is putin is blocking then fundraiser obama is late toutin get to. otherwise, clear. >> ahead on the five. passenger plane just shot down and the statebama department didn't think to put on the top of its agenda. didn't sit well with shep who was on air at the time of the briefing. you will hear what he had to say about it next.

♪ ♪ >> we have had a ton of news breaking in the last 36 hours. in the news business, things can get hectic, sometimes things, news gets reported smoothly. other times not so much. check out poor crystal willgs n ball over at msnbc making the rookie mistake of not listening to the guest,al answer the question you just asked. >> u.s. staff sergeant michael boyd is at the u.s.gu embassy ines ukraine and says that he saw a missile in the air hit the plane. he is on the phone with us. sergeant, are you there? >> yes, i'm here. can you hear me. >> i can can. please tell us what you saw there on the ground in ukraine.can >> well, i was looking oute the window and i saw a projectile flying throughaine the sky and it would appear that the plane was shot down by a blast of wind from howard stern's ass. >> so it would appear thatpl the plane was shot down. can you tell us anything

more from your military training of what sort of missile system that may have been coming from? >> boy, you are a dumb ass, aren't you? >> i'm sorry, sir? all right. we're going to take a quick break. >> now, look, there are a lot of things that went wrong there. she didn't listen to theow, answer.loo her producer put on someone who wasn't vetted well enough, and she actually did say live on the ground from kiev when that wasn't the crash site he was supposed on to be -- give an analysis from theki crash site. you want to be carefulosed because it is like making fun of someone about a teleprompter and screwing up m the teleprompter. >> there go by the grace of god go i. crystal ball she should havere seen f it coming.he >> oh. >> but i'm here to defend her. because the producers thinke this is hilarious. a producer probably got fired over that so, i mean, you are going to make a mistake and you are going to hope that another network

doesn't pick it up and make fun of you over it. happening during horrible breaking news. we weren't on. she was. >> and then you make a very very good point. >> w we didn't make a mistakeew. because we weren't on. >> the point being because. >> that we have shepard smith? >> i just made that in the last block. >> yeah. >> fox executives said you know what? let's not put opinion show not interviewing people on air and interview breaking news people at the moment.t who do you call out on this one? >> look, that's an executive decision. they should have made a decision that waspe smarart andn informed and said, listen, we are not going it put somebody on that doesn't have the experience, especially with this breaking news situation, with information that is technical and more plaintiff's plaintiff's -- complicated. it doesn't excuse that gentleman's behavior for being a little bit rude.viou >> this has nothing to do with crystal ball. tha i'm sorry. it does not.ng howard stern has punked some of the most -- i mean, experienced people in the news business. oh, by the way, and in thise of

building as well. so, yes, the producers have in a job to clear these phone conversations. but doing this for, what, 30 years. >> if crystal had been b listening to what he he said sheehi would have said thanks and made a joke of it and moved on. and, you know, had fun withhan stern because that's what a they do. you can't blame that on her. the stern show has done this seasons.of >> you can forgive a rookie for making mistakes. there is no excuse for a state departmentyou spokesperson for completely fumbling the ball. here is what happenedking yesterday on fox news whene jen sacky started her briefing. >> jen sacky the state department spokesperson live. >> began auditing ballots from the afghan presidential t runoff. the audit is being conductedom in kabul. >> well, this is just highlying inappropriate, i would say. today, a malaysian airlines jet has fallen from the skyprop over a war zone and the

state department is beginning with routine matters. you figure it out. i can't figure that out.nt i jennifer griffen, i can't belief what just happened. >> that's the state department, shep. i'm not surprised. >> we don't have time to t read the tweet. she literally tweeted a cup can pell minutes later out of her state department twitter account about a fashion article. bob, dropped the ball? >> dropped thee ball. dropped on her head. i just -- it's unbelievable to me that -- i mean, who inhe their right behind could walk out with these thingsit's going on and talk about a ballot account which is probably going to be a screwy ballot count in kabul when this is going on and be then talks about fashion. i mean, somebody has got to take this woman -- i mean, she ought to be the press secretary at the the department of mines. >> department of mines? >> what are you talking about? >> you want to put her chief spokesman at the state department on a day she talks ae

vote in kabul. >> i want to givee the whole group pink slips. >> they are all named jen and josh. it's like the set of glee. you can't blame them. they are so cute. >> this is a very -- this is a different situation than the last one we were talking about. >> she is not a serious person. i mean, she is not. she is the queen of construction paper diplomacy. it was her with the sharpy and the magic marker and then the construction paper. i think we have a picture of her. that's how we reached out to ukraine was, i believe jenthe with a picture that's notrain happening. >> we make fun of crystal ball and then. >> wait, there it is, andrea. >> where did she come from. >> she came from the obamab campaign, that's theit, problem. >> she a campaign person and did campaign people can be she snarky. they can do hokie littlele gimmicks and putm. out videos. you know the types. they are not suitable for the state department to be responding to global crises. >> that's like pearl harbor she would have announced of

that someone stubbed their toe in alaska. >> you have to wonder what'sr been going on in the state department. benghazi, hillary. come on, guys, get the state w department together. coming up, we return to thepa crisis in the middle east. if you have been listening to the mainstream media you haven't been getting the ret real truth about israel'sen offensive against hamas in gaza. stick around, you will get it here ♪

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is that merle haggard? is the conflict between israel and hamas intensifies and troops enter the gaza strip. president obama is calling for some measure of restraint. >> the united states and our friends and allies are deeply concerned about the risks of furthest can a legs and the loss of more

innocent life. we are hopeful that israel will continue to approach this process in a way that minimizes civilian casualties. >> but in a rare appearance on the five. charles krauthammer reminds us who really puts innocent lives at risk. >> the u.n. agency had to admit after delay of a day, that it found in one of its schools, 200 hamas rockets hidden. now, this is the length of the depravity of hamas. when even the u.s. -- the u.n. has to admit that it is obviously creating situations, hiding its weaponry among children, in fact, as a way to protect itself. >> what i find amazing here is he egypt calls for a cease-fire, right in the israelis say okay. and hamas says no. we are going to keep going. now, i mean, egypt has been feeding a lot of things to hamas. don't you find that interesting, eric that they would not even listen to the

big power next to israel? >> and because they did that. they are not getting support threat the arab world which is what i was pointing out earlier in the show. hamas is on their own and they are going to completely get -- you they, israel calls it mowing the lawn every few years the lawn gets too high and they mow the lawn and they do. this the problem is people are dying, kids are dying. mostly palestinian arab, hamas kids are dying when they're trying to play soccer. stop, it's your to play soccer. so stop. it's your leader's fault. you need to gree to a cease-fire and this goes away. israel is trying to stop the rockets from coming into israel. that's the issue. end of story. >> how do you think hamas -- obviously they got these rockets from iran and getting them in somehow. it's surrounded, but that's got to be egypt doing some work with them and coming in from the sea, don't you think? >> yeah, they definitely have support. and they could have had a cease-fire, hamas could have if they wanted to. but they don't want to.

they've been fighting for decades and decades and decades. they don't know anything different. i was listening to another news network and they said, oh, the palestinian children, the two boys who died on the beach. what were two palestinian boys playing on a beach when the israelis gave ample heads up, they dropped leaflets, they let everybody know we're going to finally fight back because we have no choice. so evacuate the area. they don't want casualties. but benjamin netanyahu said the best, the difference between us is we're using missile defense to protect our citizens and hamas is using their civilians to protect their missiles. they've been doing that for a while as part of their p.r. campaign to get sympathy. >> greg, the cnn reporter, i think, tweeted or said something about scum, called the israelis scum for sending in their own rockets. >> right. >> what are they thinking? i mean -- >> the interesting thing. if those in the media who took their views -- their vi treelic

views, they would be called racist. but you can get away with it with israel primarily because israel is often a proxy for america it's a suitable punching bag when you can't hit us. so when you're going -- when you're bombing israel it's their way of saying you're next. >> let me ask you something, kimberly. give you an exact quote from diana -- cnn. israelis are on a hill above sderat cheer as bombs land on gaza, threaten to destroy our car if i say a word wrong. take a mentality of a 3-year-old to come up with something like that. >> well, it's reprehensible. she doesn't have a job. what do you want me to tell you? there's no place for that kind of -- by the way, you e kwipt yourself with the fact, again, the israelis go out of their way pain stakingly to make sure there are not civilian casualties. they call everyone phone

registered in the building before they hit it. they drop small kind of warning shot in a building to let everyone know to evacuate. okay, they have every right to protect their country and their people. and hamas murders children and bury them in a shallow grave. it's disgusting. >> did she lose her job? >> off israel beat. >> twitter costs more jobs than obama. >> there you go. one more thing is up next.

it's time now for one more thing. eric, kick it off. >> okay. roll it. the fool of the week was in court this week. jesse ventura is suing chris kyle, the navy s.e.a.l.s. sniper who killed more terrorists than anybody else. kyle risked his life and some say gave his life for america. jesse ventura is suing chris kyl's widow. he became governor of minnesota, he hosted a tv show "blaming the government for 9/11." jesse ventura should be thankful for the men and women in uniform who protect our freedoms, our capitalism and who protect his ability to make a living with so little actual talent. for the week, jesse ventura. >> good for you. because he's taken food out of the mouths of chris kyle's children. >> family, exactly.

>> that's a good one. greg. >> okay. well, you know what? it's starting. i lost my train of thought. my sentence is starting. horrible campaign songs. if you love annoying folk rock, feast your eyes on this, or your ears rather, on this folk son on whatever. thank you for letting me finish. ♪ ♪ run, run, run, we need a president ♪ ♪ we need president -- >> anyway. [ laughter ] >> if your ears aren't throwing up, they will. >> okay, kimberly. >> okay. finally, homeland season four, people. take a look at the pictures. we have no sound. but you can take a look at the pictures. that's claire danes, it's going

to premiere on october 5th. we're just alerting you because the trailer just got released. >> now and october 5th -- >> just released today. >> i -- am i up? >> yep. >> port authority attendant david limb, one of the 16 people who lived through the collapse of the north building, is retiring after 34 years on the police force. he did heroic things that day. congratulations, lieutenant. have a good retirement. you deserve every bit of it. one other quick thing, people from grand rapids, michigan, gave this to me. >> we have to come back at 8:00. >> look at what he did to his hair. he's going to be in hair for an hour. >> don't hit my hair. >> made crystal ball look like walter cronkite. >> that is called a damn-it doll. >> we don't have time for my one more thing, but i'll clarify quickly it's not howard stern's show that does it. it's fans that prank call

people. howard stern does not encourage that kind of behavior. okay. got that clear. that's it for us here. have a great weekend everyone. we'll see you monday. and at 8:00 p.m. tonight. don't miss it.