from las vegas. a russian commander now accused of being behind the horrific malaysia airlines flight 17 shoot down. and this comes as there are new calls for an international investigation into this disaster. secretary of state john kerry expressing his concern to his russian counterpart over reports ukrainian rebels are tampering with the crash environment all as international observers say that they're being restricted from the area of the wreckage and that human remains from the airliner carrying 298 people who were shot down by that missile are now grimly scattered throughout the landscape. this is a brand-new hour of america's news headquarters. i'm eric shaun. >> i'm patti ann brown.

ukraine says dozens of bodies have been taken and these actions are preventing investigators from determining the exact circumstances of the disaster. steve harrigan is streaming live in ukraine with the very latest. hi, steve. >> reporter: criticism continues to mount from world leaders pointed at russia in the aftermath of this tragedy. prime minister of ukraine saying experts from that nation in eastern ukraine were actually prevented from carrying out their research by russian-backed guerrilla fighters, threatened with being kidnapped. one of the ministers of malaysia says the scene has been tampered with and the russians failed to secure it. the most emotional outpour from the netherlands, they lost more than 180 people in that crash. more than 180 dutch killed and the prime minister of the netherlands saying putin has one last chance to get this right, saying the bodies have been

treated with gross disrespect by russian-backed guerrillas on the ground. there is still some confusion about the removal of bodies after two days in the sun, many of them were rather briskly packed up in plastic bags. some taken to morgues. some by the side of the road. it's not clear whether this this area or ukrainian held territory the real question will be access for those international ex merits who want to carry out an independence investigation. it is still a hot zone around the crash site and even getting there through checkpoints on each side, through some roads and bridges that have been destroyed in the fighting will be no easy task. eric and patti ann, back to you. >> steve harrigan, thanks. meanwhile, who did it? u.s. officials now point the finger at a russian commander from moscow. the ukrainian government says works for the russian intelligence. they claim he oversaw the shoot down and is responsible for this carnage. a senior u.s. official confirming that the rocket was fired, they say, from a

rebel-held town in eastern ukraine. jennifer griffin is live in washington with the very latest on who exactly may have been behind this attack. hi, jennifer. >> reporter: hi. senior western intelligence officials tell me they believe this video shows the actual missile launcher used to bring down the malaysian plane. it is missing two of its four missiles and shows the missile launcher heading toward the russian border at dawn yesterday. u.s. officials now believe they have pinpointed the launch site for the missile that brought down the plane inside ukraine in a town near the border with russia. they believe the missile was brought across the border from russia in recent weeks and since the malaysian plane went down, russian-backed separatists have been frantically trying to hide it. u.s. officials now believe the launcher is likely back across the border in russia. further u.s. intelligence analysts now think they have evidence that this former

russian military intelligence colonel, who was leading the separatist movement, oversaw the strike just 20 minutes after the plane went down, one of his lieutenants is overheard talking to another russian military intelligence officer in phone intercepts released by the ukraine government. u.s. officials are conducting voice recognition and believe the audio to be authentic. >> we have just shot down a plane. that was minor's group. it fell down outside. >> pilots? >> are are the piets? >> set off to search for the shot down plane and take pictures of it. a plume of smoke is visible. >> how many minutes ago? >> about 30 minutes ago. to come fromrvice to air russia. the training provided to operate that surface to air missile system most likely came from

russia. >> reporter: that was u.s. defense secretary chuck hagel last night. as one well placed western intelligence source put it to me, we are building a case and it's pretty near bullet proof at this point. eric? >> it seems devastating so far. thank you so much. adding to the tension between the two nations, russia is banning a u.s. congressmen and 12 other americans in connection with guantanamo bay and abu grad. the democrat from virginia is not allowed to step foot in russia. it's in response to the u.s. ban of a russian parliament member. the other 12 include guantanamo bay's commander and a former soldier convicted of abuse at abu grad. russia says the ban is a reaction tot sur adding 12 names over human rights accusations. the death toll is climbing in iraq. at least 27 people are dead following a series of bombs that ripped through back dad. investigators say a homicide car bomber slammed into a police checkpoint, killing at least

nine people and wounding nearly two dozen more. four other car bombs hit mostly shiite muslim areas of the capitol killing more than a dozen others. no immediate claims of responsibilities for the attack so far. israeli bulldozers destroying dozens of underground tunnels as they try to eliminate the pathways connecting gaza and israel. all this as israel says gunmen from gaza disguised in israeli uniforms used those very same tunnels to kill two of its soldiers. john huddy joins us live from gaza city with the latest. hi, john. >> reporter: yeah. yeah, two of those, two militants crossed into israel through these tunnels dressed as israeli soldiers and got into a fire fight. they were killed and then a third militant who was also killed, was found with handcuffs and also tranquilizers on him, indicating to forces that he was most likely trying to abduct

israelis. as you mentioned, israeli ground troops have been on the offensive for the last two days. we're going now to the third day of the ground offensive and they've been really rooting out these tunnels that hamas militants have been using that stretch, snake throughout gaza, used for the transport and storage of rockets. they go in between the various rocket launch sites and that's also they're stretching into israel. that's where a lot of the fighting has been going on and the bulldozers will be rooting those tunnels out. this as the air strikes continued through the overnight hours into the early morning hours here. there were numerous air strikes in and around our location as the israeli air force continues to target hamas rocket launch sites and tunnel locations as well. this evening has been quiet and a big reason is we understand, according to the ids, israeli defense force, a main border crossing between israel and gaza was open earlier this evening, around 10:00 p.m. local time, so

that five heavy truck loads of medical supplies could be brought into gaza. one of the things we've seen on the ground here at the main hospital in gaza city has been a dire shortage of supplies. medicine, every kind of medical supply. the doctors have been overwhelmed because of the influx of the dead and wounded. so far more than 350 palestinian s have been killed in operation protective edge since it started now 13 days ago. more than 1600 have been injured. so things have been quiet, but just a little while ago right before we went live, we heard what sounded like heavy artillery cannon fire offshore. so we're expecting things to start to escalate within the next couple hours. we'll keep you posted. back to you. >> all right. john huddy live in gaza city. thanks. back here at home, three people are dead after the crash of a small airplane in the adirondack mounts in upstate new york. that single engeneral plane went

down this morning right near lake placid, new york. that was not far from the airport. they say it crashed on a farm and then burst into flames. investigators are not yet sure exactly what caused this accident. witnesses say they did hear the crash, but they could do nothing to help those passengers. police in kansas arrested the man accused of abducting five-year-old cadeen paris after a violent shootout. the suspect reportedly crashed his vehicle at a construction site before exchanging gun fire with two police officers. investigators are looking to see if the child was shot and killed by the suspect or by police during the shootout. out west it's hot and windy in northern washington state. that's pushed a massive wildfire into new directions. communities are devastated in the scenic area northeast of seattle. so far at least 100 homes have been destroyed by this fire. now we're being told even more residents could be forced to

evacuate. dominic denatale has more on what's been going on. hi. >> hey there. indeed. it's remarkable stuff taken by a drone flying over the town of pateros. it shows the damage inflicted on 100 homes over the past couple of days. really quite incredible stuff. you could see house after house, lot after lot has been completely floored. the only thing standing is the chimney there, really quite extraordinary stuff. so 100 homes affected. not a single neighborhood in that small community that hasn't seen some form of damage. the town of malis, nearby, 500 people have been evacuated from that town there. you can see the scorched earth there and the forest line. there is one of those houses with the chimney breast standing

out. the area engulfed, according to one resident. >> we watched the whole town burning. it looked like the whole town was on fire at night 'cause it was just -- all you could see was fire everywhere. >> reporter: the name of the fire that consumed the town is called the qualitien complex fire. it is some 200,000-acres in size and growing very, very fast. in fact, collectively, it's as big as the city of seattle. that of tacoma and also bellevue. it's that absolutely massive. of course, the government very concerned of just how much this is going to affect people in saying that people are still in harm's way. >> we've got a lot of work to do and there is still extreme danger here. the one message i hope people understand, this is a very dangerous fire. it's moving at the pace of a freight train and if you hear an evacuation order, please heed

it. there is no time to fight this fire with garden hoses. >> reporter: here is why the fire is so fierce. that's because of the 105 degrees temperatures there. you can see where they are. 4 1/2 hours -- 3 1/2 hours drive from seattle. low humidity in the area. winds gusting up to 30 miles an hour. very, very easily pushes those flames. it's been burning an entire week, this particular fire. it's one of 50 in the state and 7,000 firefighters have been fighting the flames since then. the authorities saying look, this is not multiple days, continuous that we're going to face going forward. it will be weeks before we can get all these fires under control at long last. astonishing that it's happening so early in the season. it doesn't bode well for the typical high point of the season, which is late august, into september. back to you. >> dominic, the video from those drone, absolutely astounding. almost looks unreal, like a

movie. sadly real. thank you. thousands of young illegal immigrants stream over the border, the question remains what to do with the children once they're here. one governor is offering a to temporarily house some of them. elizabeth prann has more from washington. >> reporter: reactions erupting from both sides after massachusetts governor agreed to allow 1,000 children crossing the border illegally to find a safe haven in his state at the request of the president. local supporters such as senator elizabeth warren say the kids are at real risk and every state that could help should. patrick says it's personal. >> my state teaches that if a stranger dwells with you in your land, you shall not mistreat him. but rather love him as yourself. for you were strangers in the land of egypt. >> reporter: there is a growing group of critics exemplified by hundreds of protests planned across the country.

a recent poll shows americans' interest in immigration reform tripled in only a month. in june, 5% of those polled say immigration is one of the nation's top problems. this month it's 17%. one of the country's top issues. one texas law maker is proposing a bill allowing local communities 90 days to evaluate federal requests to house unaccompanied children. >> health and human services that they have to tell the mayors that yes, we are looking at a place within your city and then stop and give them 90 days to assess the impact on their communities. >> reporter: while the president has not visited the border, he is scheduled to meet with the leaders of honduras, el salvador and guatemala on friday. in washington, elizabeth prann, fox news. thank you. patti ann, the shoot down of flight 17, the dutch prime minister has vladimir putin has one last chance to see he's

sincere. putin denies responsibility. will the international condemnation and horror of what you are seeing right there change putin support for the pro-russian rebels or will putin remain defiant? >> and we'll tell you what car gm is adding to its growing list of recalls. there are more than 500,000 of them in the united states. >> the deadline was tomorrow, but now those nuclear negotiations with iran have been extended. what needs to be resolved to stop iran from potentially building a nuclear bomb woooo.

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time for a quick check of the headlines. the roof of a prison collapsed in eastern texas today sending 19 inmates to the hospital. officials are still trying to figure out exactly how it happened. a flight carrying nearly five dozen illegal immigrants, mostly women and children, arrived in honduras from new mexico today. it's the second group of migrants to be taken back to central america. and gm is ordering dealers to stop selling cadillacs. last june certain models were recalled and the maker says it does not have a fix for a major issue that can cause that car to shut off. back to malaysia airline

flight 17, a russian commander now being accused of masterminding that horrific shoot down. apparently thinking that his rebel forces had hit a ukrainian military jet. this as ukraine is accusing moscow of helping separatist fighters destroy evidence at the crash site. that russian missile launcher quickly across the russian border to hide it. all this as vladimir putin continues to blame ukraine, ignoring the outcry from world leaders who say he has the passengers' blood on his hands. will putin change? marvin cab is a fox news contributor, former diplomatic correspondent. first question. is putin back down or double down? >> i think it's more in the other direction. he's going to double down rather than back down. putin is a very skilled, cunning negotiator. he has certain cards to play, many options to play. and the world is saying right

now, let's have a fair and open investigation of what happened. putin says fine. but you have to include the insurgents running the eastern half of ukraine. the people who run the government of ukraine consider those insurgents to be terrorists. therefore, they don't want to have anything to do with them. putin wants the terrorists to be part of the negotiation and he may end up with that happening. >> talking about -- what they call the terrorists, one man being accused of being the mastermind. he was born in moscow. his biography they claim he is a retired intelligence officer. there he is right there. he's been leading the rebels in that part of the eastern ukraine. but the ukrainian government says that no, he's not retired. he's actually still part of the gru, intelligence. do you think that's possible? do you think he carried this out even if it was a mistake on behalf of putin's government and do you think that he's

controlled potentially by putin? >> well, there are a lot of questions in there, eric. i'm not sure i'm the guy who has the answers to that. i think this man clearly is playing a role there. is he on his own? is he an independent uprooter? is he being paid by moscow? is he taking moscow's orders directly? all of these things play into the complexity of the problem because who in fact is in charge of the insurgents who are running much of eastern ukraine? and we're not sure of that and putin wants to have an extra player in the negotiation and from the very beginning, he has said if you want anything to work here, you've got to talk to these people. he says you've got to have the russians, the ukrainians, and the insurgents in any negotiation. add a western country such as germany or france and you have the component parts of a

negotiation that may be able to. but will the ukrainians accept the insurgents at the table when they consider them to be terrorists and the likelihood at this point is no. >> apparently they're blocking some access to the point. the dutch prime minister had a very intense conversation with putin, giving him one last chance. >> yes. >> take a look at this blunt editorial today that's called putin's wrong, negative record. putin says he grew up a thug. those words came into hard relief with the depraved cruelty of the airline shoot down. this may be the only way to understand his act and the litany of global thuggery. russia has been iran's top ally. playing godfather to syria. that record is no surprise he would treat 295 dead bodies as insignificant if not for the west outrage. the outrage should continue and lead to a better understanding of this thug's legacy. they call him a thug. what is his legacy and how does this malaysian shoot down play into that? >> i think that the shootdown is

going to play a big role in it. there are a number of people already feel that it's so important that it may be the beginning of the end of the crisis in ukraine. i don't believe that. i think that it's going to be looked upon by putin as an opportunity to achieve some of the ends that he's wanted to achieve from the very beginning. this is a man who has been raised in the kgb. he is a kgb operator. the word thug is a bit heavy, i think. but nevertheless, putin is a tough guy and he's going to try to get what he wants. at this particular point, what he wants is the continuing uneasiness, sort of destablization of ukraine so that it can never become the site of a pro-western, perhaps even a nato force that could be too much of an attraction to the people who live in russia. >> finally, do you think he'll get that?

>> no. i don't think he will, but i think he's going to make an enormously tough, hard headed effort to achieve it. >> marvin, always good to see you. we thank you so much for your analysis. >> thank you. as israel continues to push deeper into gaza, the obama administration is calling on both sides to restrain themselves. governor mike huckabee talked to a member of israel's security cabinet who says some of what the white house is asking for is not reasonable. >> we offered one cease fire. we offered another cease fire. keep in mind where we are. we're well less than half a percent, our land represents well less than half a percent of the entire islamic world. we're about 6 million jews in israel covered by 300 million muslims. >> you can catch that whole interview on "huckabee" tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern time on fox

news. our coverage of the malaysia airlines plane shootdown continues tomorrow. don't miss chris wallace' interview with secretary of state john kerry on fox news sunday. mr. kerry will discuss the latest on the downing of flight 17, the israeli gaza conflict, and the extension of the nuclear talks with iran. check your local listing. president obama taking new tact to try and stem the flood of illegal immigrants in central america, planning a big meeting. when he has that meeting, he will be sitting down with leaders of those countries from where these immigrants are coming. meantime, congress prepared to act on the emergency funding request before they wrap up for the summer. our political panel will weigh in on what we can expect on the continuing immigration crisis. plus, he went on a journey of a lifetime. tragically it took a deadly turn for this new york stockbroker. we will fill you in when we come back. ji9

the bottom of the hour. time for the top of the news. the remains of an american man has been found in two trash bags in mexico. he quit his finance job to ride his motorcycle throughout latin america. six months ago they say he sent a text to his girlfriend saying he was in a dangerous area. his remains and the motorcycle have been discovered in southwest mexico. a powerful typhoon slamming southern china, killing at least eight people and injuring more. that was the same one that claimed nearly 80 lives in the philippines. trumpet player passed away, two days after his 103rd birthday. he played at every new orleans jazz and heritage festival until just last year when he was known as the oldest jazz musician in that great city. 103, i would think so. president obama is getting set to host the leaders of

several central american nations at the white house next week. he'll talk about stemming the tide of illegal immigrant children with the presidents of el salvador, honduras and guatemala. we're waiting for congress to act on the president's $3.7 billion emergency funding request. there are two weeks left in the session and some lawmakers want substantial policy strings attached. let's bring in brad blakeman, former deputy assistant to george w. bush, and a professor of public policy, politics and international affairs at georgetown university, and jehmu green, former president of the women's media center, fox news contributor and co-founder of define american, a campaign to elevate the immigration conversation. thank you for joining us. brad, you say president obama is neglecting to include a key country in these meetings, mexico. >> absolutely. but for mexico letting these child migrants come across their border, they would have never gotten to our border and had our border been secure, they never would have been let in and we've

been sending humanitarian aid to mexico. if mexico is not in the room with guatemala and honduras and el salvador where the kids are coming from, then this is another photo op for the president. mexico must be in the room ask held accountable because they never would have got here unless they traversed through mexico. >> you say we're obligated to respond to this crisis. but critics say that we're creating an incentive for illegals to cross and that's creating a crisis here at home. >> are we so blinded by politics that we can't even see a humanitarian crisis at our doorstep? this increase started before some of the changes that we saw the white house enact through deferred action to help undocumented young people in this country get an education, find their way, contribute to our economy. this has nothing to do with those changes and everything to

do with families trying to save their children from violence. when you look at countries like mexico, costa rica, belize, for years they have seen a 700% increase in these children coming to their country. this is happening because they are fleeing the violence that is killing more people -- >> brad -- >> real -- >> no, no, let's let brad back n. you had a long time there. >> brad? >> there are kids all over the world, as horrible as it is, that are being exploited by people of their own countries. america would love to solve everybody's problem, but we can't even solve our own. what we should be doing is helping to solve the problem where these kids come from. they can't come unsupervised, their families -- that's not what the president is doing. let me tell you what the president is doing. >> he is going to sit down and talk to them -- >> let brad finish and jehmu,

you can get in. >> let me tell you what a president should do. a president of the united states should prevent crisis. not respond to crises or cause a crisis. this president knew these kids were coming here. he knew we didn't have a secure border, although he told us in 2012 the border was secure. this is the president's own mal feesance. >> jehmu? >> he created this crisis. >> there are some people who will find any issue to point fingers at the president. but the reality is that these kids are fleeing the violence that is being caused by narco terrorists in their countries. by the president sitting down with the leaders of guatemala, honduras, el salvador and addressing those issues, that is one step. >> where is mexico? >> we do not turn our back on children or kids under stress. >> brad, we mentioned the $3.7 billion funding request, what do you say about that? >> the democrats want a $3.7 billion free ride. they don't want any conditions

attached. harry reid says i want a, quote, unquote, a clean bill. you're not going to get one. we have to stop this illegal migration from coming across our borders and exploiting these children and putting them in a worst position than they would have been in their own countries if we would have been giving the aid. so they're not going to get a clean bill out of this congress. >> jehmu, last word? >> congress wants to politicize this. ted cruz is trying to politicize this. the border is secure. these kids are being apprehended. they're not coming n. they're being apprehended when they get to america. this is about a humanitarian crisis and as the pope has said and if we remember our christian values, we need to welcome them as brothers and sisters. >> jehmu green, brad blakeman, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. those iran nuclear talks that face a deadline of tomorrow, they've been extended of the it's been pushed to late november. secretary of state john kerry says those talks between iran, the u.s. and five other world

powers are, he says, making progress. the goal is to try and stop iran from building a possible nuclear bomb. iran still wants to enrich more uranium. you know that's in violation of six city council resolutions. molly henneberg has the details on what happened from washington. >> reporter: that's really the main sticking point what you were just talking about, enriching you're cranium. they want to enrich more uranium than the suffer believes is necessary. sec says he made it crystal clear who said they wanted to have 190,000 spinning centrifuges. the u.s. believes 10,000 would be too many. while kerry says there have been, quote, tangible progress in some areas of negotiation, he also said, quote, there are very real gaps on issues such as enrichment facilities. this issue is an absolutely critical component of any potential comprehensive

agreement. we have much more work to do in this area and in others as well. since iran is staying at the negotiating table and has taken some steps for limiting its nuclear program, officials say iran will get $2.8 billion in assets that had previously been frozen under u.s. sanctions. that's in addition to more than 6 billion in assets already made available to iran. the top republican on the foreign relations committee, bob corker, pressed the obama administration not to allow these negotiations to go on indefinitely. he said, quote, i urge the administration to make it clear there will be no more extension, which would only further diminish our leverage. republican congressman ed royse, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee, says congress should increase economic pressure on iran right now, but he says the obama administration opposes additional sanctions while the negotiations continue.

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time for a quick check of the headlines. police in paris clashing with thousands of pro-palestinian protesters. this despite a ban on the marches. protesters throwing rocks at police and burning an israeli flag. police responding with tear gas. in detroit, protesters are angry over shut offs by the water department. more than 1,000 people marched past city hall. the utility company says the shut-offs were necessary to collect past due accounts. the rate of hiv infections fell by a third over the past decade. experts are not sure why it's happening, but they're hopeful that the epidemic is on the decline. president obama's dealing with several major foreign crises all at the same time. there is the shootdown of malaysia flight 17, the continued hamas rocket attacks against israel and the israeli response in the gaza, and now the delayed deadline in the nuclear talks with iran. there has been growing criticism of his foreign policy, which he has defended. is this all fair?

susan estridge, usc professor of law and a fox news contributor joins us now. this week the president said -- it's a quote -- we live in a complex and challenging time. he says there are no quick or easy solutions. susan, americans are looking to him, some blaming him for the chaos in the world. >> sure. it's understandable, eric. it is a terrifying world right now. i sit there, i look around at what's going on in israel, ukraine. you showed the pictures of demonstrations in paris and the burning of an israeli flag, which i have to tell you tugs at my heart. and it is a complicated, frightening world. i think people understandably -- these antings this that you or i individually can do anything about, so people look to the president for leadership. i think people are frustrated as they look around the world and see these problems that we can't solve, and the big obstacle is i

don't hear too many of the complainers come up with a solution. if i knew what the president could do to deal with the israeli-palestinian problem or russia and ukraine, much less iran nuclear power, you know, there aren't easy solutions and there may not be any solutions at all, which is a terrifying thing for most american. >> a lot of the critics say he needs to be stronger. they look to president reagan and some of his responses on the international stage, speaking out, being more blunt. look, his u.n. secretary, our ambassador at the u.n., had this amazing speech in front of the security council. when the president came out, the critics say it was a much more tepid response to what happened with the malaysia flight. >> the problem is if he speaks really strongly, right, and he goes out there and, you know, puts oh, u.s. prestige on the

line, and then things don't go well, it's worse. i think as much as i hear people everywhere o'clock, and you do, too, say we want strikes, we want to be strong. we want to be proud, you say oh, does that mean boots on the ground in ukraine? and people look at you and say, well, of course not. do you want boots on the ground in israel and -- no. right? you want iran to get nuclear power and then israel to have to deal with it somehow op its own? no. so we want him to be tough and to be strong and we want him to speak out and yet if he does so and we don't back it up, we look even weaker. i'm not happy. i don't know anybody is happy with what we're seeing now. but i think simply saying he needs to be stronger, we got to back strikes. reagan was dealing with a very different time. we knew who the enemy was. it was the soviet union. it was the cold war. not to take any credit away from

him, but the problems obama faces are so different and in some ways more complicated. >> we got a minute left. i'm going to ask you to solve the problems of the world. what happens in 2016? we went from jimmy cart tore right hand reagan. obama to who and how do we fix this? >> well, i think if people are very frustrated with obama, which they may be, then they'll be looking -- i remember that election. they went from carter to reagan because they were tired of the united states being humiliated. you had the iran hostages. and reagan offered a fresh breath and a promise of strength in dealing with the soviet union. i don't know who else is going to do it. it might be hillary who stands up and says i've got the experience. but generally americans vote on domestic policies. so what happens in 2016 is more likely to have to do with the price of bread than what's going on in gaza.

>> all right. the economy is stupid -- >> so we've said. >> thank you so much for your insight. >> have a good weekend. >> everyone, you can go right to the newspaper, there is a syndicated column that susan has in newspapers across the country every wednesday and friday to get more of her. investigators are on the ground in eastern ukraine trying to get to that downed malaysian jet liner as pro-russian separatists continue to control the scene. so what is next for theat y investigation?

there are new reports that the black boxes belonging to malaysia airline flight 17 are on the way to moscow. what is next for the investigation. robert mark publisher of "jet whine.comprosecutes. >> there is eight mile crash site and secretary kerry spoke to the russian foreign minister and the secretary stressed the international call for

investigators to receive full access to the site. germany's merkel made the same demand. dow expect compliance from russia? >> not really. they are in a clear violation of a international civil aviation treaty to allow the country of occurrence which is ukraine to handle the investigation. and if they possess the black boxes, what does the secretary of state and merkel think they are going to do to compel vladimar putin to hand them over. >> reports say that the black boxes are in the hands of pro russian separatist and floun to moscow. in a case where the plane is blown up by a missile, are the black boxes helpful? >> they are always helpful. you will find out what happened

in the last now moments of the airplane flight. was it destroyed in 33,000 feet? did it come apart lower and what was the crew trying to do and what do you think happen? we just don't know. and again, without those boxes, saying that it was blown out of the sky, we are pretty sure of that. but we'll never figure out what happened and confirm everything without the boxes. not to mention the fact that if an accident site is contaminated. we don't know if rebels might have carried off pieces of the futlage that incriminates the weapon. >> 38 bodies have been removed and money and jewel row have been lotted and they are concerned that part of the plane and missile might have been removed or tampered with the and the state department said that

kerry in the talk with russia foreign minister, the united states is concerned that the second day in a row oa c investigators were denied proper access to the site. and concerned about the remains of the victims and debris from the site are tampered with and inappropriately removed. expressing concern is fine but can the international community back that up with consequences? >> that is an interesting point to consider bridgeit or mary, the international civilian facility is the aviation arm of the united nations. i am not familiar enough with this kind of a problem because it never really has happen before. we don't know what kind of sanctions the un may try to carry out against the russians if this is indeed the case.

it is pretty unprecedented. >> yeah, you mention iko, this is an international organization that might be in charge of the commission to follow-through on the investigation. it remains to be scene whether or not we'll so compliance and unfortunately we'll have to leave it there. pubbisher of jet line.com. thank you for joining us. >> i will be back tomorrow morning on sunday morning futures. and again with the news at 12 noon. jowly bandaras is up with the fox report. have a great weekend.

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fox news urgent. connecting the dots in the malaysian airline tragedy. hello, everyone. i am julie bandaras. newly released video could be key in determining who shot down flight mh 17. the u.s. intelligence analyst believe that a russian commander over saw the missile strike on the passenger jet. international monitor struggle to secower the site and separatist are limiting the access. russia is helping the separatist destroy evidence at the crash si