and our wonderful guests for being here. and that's it for now. this is mike huckabee from new york. by the way, stay tuned w on the buzz meter this sunday, from the crisis along the texas border to the fighting in iraq and gaza and the plane shot down in ukraine. are the media providing a fair picture or distorted one? we'll ask john mccain. >> i think media in many respects, particularly when i read some of the, quote, commentators' columns, they continue to apologize and justify what is clearly a failed national security policy on this administration. >> the arizona senator on the coverage of the chaos, whether the press is soft on president obama and whether he's portrayed as a grumpy old man.

the horrifying shootdown of the malaysian jet. have the media been too quick to speculate about russia's role. are some pundits rushing to blame alabama? a new jersey reporter is forced out of his job after speaking out in a cop killer case about crime in the black community. >> we decided to air it because it's important to shine a light on this anti cop feeling that's contaminated the inner city. unfortunately, no one in the news media have the courage to touch that subject. >> was shawn bergen telling an uncomfortable truth? rupert murdock and 20th century fox make a blockbuster bid to buy time warner. what would happen to cnn and how will this transform the media landscape? i'm howard kurtz and this is "media buzz."

from the moment flight malaysian flight was shot down, some journalists speculating, others urging caution and one just being duped. >> i would say aa war correspondent and weighing all of the facts as they've been coming in, admittedly, this is my opinion. i believe that vladimir putin has the blood of these airline passengers on his hands. >> we should point out that a number of news networks have been airing footage of what appears to be smoke rising on a horizon, apparently reportedly from a plane crash. we cannot independent confirm that that is actually a plane crash from the malaysian jet that we are referring to. it's possible it's something that occurred earlier in the day. >> i was looking out the window and i saw a projectile flying through the sky. it would appear that the plane was shot down by a blast of wind from howard stern's [ bleep ].

>> it would appear that the plane was shot down. can you tell us anything more from your military training? >> planity of news outlets including the wire services report thad there appeared to be americans on board. >> there are reports that 23 americans were on board. that's according to the manifest. >> we believe 23 americans according to what we're hearing. >> there may have been as many as 23 u.s. citizens on board. >> that was false. just one american it turns out was on the plane. some conservative commentators turned to president obama's schedule and whether he appeared to be publicly engaged with the downing of the plane and, on the same day, the israeli invasion of gaza. >> here we have our closest ally involved in a ground invasion, 300 people shot out of the plane likely by one of our biggest enemies and the president is raising money -- >> instead of running around lower manhattan raising money, the president should have got on national television and called

vladimir putin a killer. he should isolate him diplomatically and put him back in the black hole from which he can. >> joining us, lauren ashburn who hosts social buzz, jim pinkerton, contributing editor at american conservative magazine and juan williams, columnist for the hill. everyone scrambles when there's a major tragedy. what's struck you about the coverage, geraldo accusing putin of being a murder. >> being punked by howard stern. >> in the beginning i think the network coverage was appropriate. expanded to one-hour specials, wall to wall coverage. the problem comes when they don't know more information and everybody is vamping and that's when the mistakes are made as we saw. >> "washington post" this morning, jim pinkerton says a u.s. official believes -- the u.s. believes russia supplied the missile launcher to the

pro-russian separatists. obviously russia bears some responsibility. all this finger pointing in the media. what happened to waiting for the facts? >> in this case the facts are so obvious and clear that people look for judgment. i think geraldo was right. i think the russians are responsible. samantha powers says so, the u.n. ambassador. president obama has said so. i think in this case the circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming that the russians were involved either pushing the button or helping the separatists push the buttons that they're catching up with reality. on the whole i think the media got this one right. >> don't we live in a culture, juan, where there's a demand for immediate answe answers, as with the case of how many americans were on board, are simply not clear? >> i agree with jim that geraldo was right. now i can say that based on the circumstances. in the immediate moments when this thing is breaking.

when he said that -- that's what troubles me. it's the speculation. it's the 23 americans. we know now there are not 23. that became gospel within that day. it was gospel there were 23 americans on board and then that led to questions about the foreign policy implications and what the united states should be doing in the name of protecting our citizens. >> geraldo was on an opinion show, and he said this is my opinion. >> he certainly did. >> it wasn't like he said it was fact. he said it's my opinion. >> some aspects remain shrouded in ambiguity. there's people we can put up video of people appearing to carry off the black box from the plane. we don't know who they are. at the same time, while this is terrorism, it's eerily reminiscent of the malaysian plane four months ago that disappeared and there were weeks and weeks of speculation. >> how many times do we have to hear from the same aviation experts that black boxes are important to finding out exactly what happened. i feel like we just get into

this mindset where we have to fill the time and over and over again we turn to the same people to tell us the same thing about all these airline tragedies. >> since it's such a big story, 298 people dead, international repercussions, what's the problem with going very heavy on this and you feel like other things -- >> do we still have an immigration problem in this country? >> last time i checked. >> right, because you wouldn't know it based on the coverage. the coverage from the very beginning is appropriate. people are saddened, want to know what happened. but when you don't have information, why don't we cover other things that are still important to americans like immigration? >> i think one story that could be covered on this shoot-down story is the president's travel schedule. i can remember very well when president reagan or president bush 43 was seeming to be on vacation or doing something small, the media pounded on them. i think it's taken a few days for the media to catch up on president obama.

"the new york times" today sticking the his travel planes. at risk of looking bad, obama maintains schedule despite world crisis. this is the optics of the president doing fund-raisers, like benghazi, like texas -- >> that criticism that we played at the top, you see a lot of that from conservatives. the president is playing golf, going to fund-raisers shooting pool. the same thing was said about george w. bush spending too much time at his crawford ranch. do you think the media are too obsessed with the optics? >> in fact, that came up for me this week here at fox. i said, you know, if you're asking me is the man engaged, do i believe this president is paying attention to foreign policy issues, i think he issued distinctions the day before. he was in consultations with the top aids at the time going to the new york fund-raiser. i would add if you look back

historically, something like george w. bush after the madrid bombing, 200 people dead, he went to a fund-raiser in l.a. there's such an instinct to jump. >> you're saying it's partisan. >> of course it's partisan. there is an issue and julie pace said this earlier on fox, there's an issue the other way with the optics. if you're the president and don't continue your schedule as normal, then it looks like these things are blown out of proportion. i'm not saying i agree with that strategy, but that is how the white house is looking at it. >> the problem is we've seen the president as mainstream media outlets like politico, disengaged president. for example, when we see in the front page of "the washington post," aides are warned of border crisis, you have to ask, where was the president on the last year or so when el salvador and central america was bubbling up. >> i think it's legitimate that

the president didn't anticipate the va crisis, slow on the irs e-mails, all these other things when you get into, gee, should the guy play golf, i know people are outraged by that, he is president 24/7. >> president bush dealt with this and never played golf after the iraq war started. he said i accept that the optics are poor, so we didn't do it. >> we're all human beings, and i think we have a better president whenever that president takes a moment to go with his family to or play golf or do something normal as opposed to being obsessed rather than saying the world is ending, the world is ending. >> let me switch to the immigration crisis which we agree needs attention. this week jose vargas, a guy who founded an organization to be an advocate for illegal immigrants, went to the texas border, got detained and later was released. let me play a little sound from

vargas on cnn a few weeks ago. >> america is not a country that turns its back on children. that's not who we are as a country. i don't want to bring race into this. but if these were white kids, would we be doing this to the kids? >> this guy has an ulterior motive for doing this. he's on television. he will most likely write a book about this and include this in it. he is selfish to go to that border and pull off a stunt like that when the border patrol people have enough to worry about. he's also thumbing his nose at american law. this guy broke the law! >> he was brought here at the age of 12 from the philippines. he has sort of come out of the closet. he did that in "the new york times" magazine in 2011. he's certainly very good at getting attention. do you think the mainstream media treat him as a hero? >> of course and he's millinging it for a book contract and a movie deal, god knows what else.

john winter and fox had the headline this morning, cartel shooting heavy caliber machine guns across the border aiming at american officials. that story will get one scintilla of the coverage of the vargas story. >> if the border patrol had not only detained him but decided to deport him, do you think that would have been an outrage? would the media have denounced the administration for that? >> they would have seen it as -- the administration made a decision that it was too politically explosive at this moment. we have the children at the border, comprehensive immigration reform. vargas is the stand-in for 12 million illegal immigrants in the country. the best known illegal immigrant in the country. i interviewed him on stage when he made his documentary. that's going to be aired on hbo. it's a big media sensation. he's no doubt a hero to the american media. >> i interviewed him as well.

he's a nice guy and good reporter. he's the safest illegal immigrant in america because the administration isn't going to want the storm of criticism that would surround his deportation. send me a tweet, @howardkurtz. we read the best ones at the end of the program. john mccain makes his "media buzz" debut talking about presidential coverage, wacko birds, but first the new jersey tv reporter that spoke out about black crime and the hatred of police, should he have lost his

breaking the rules. the reporter of new jersey's

news 12 was describing the intense reaction to his interview with the wife of a cop killer. then he described what he called the anti-cop mentality. >> this same, sick perverse line of thinking has made the police officers' job impossible and it has got to stop. the underlying cause for all of this, of course, young black men growing up without fathers. unfortunately no one in the news media has the courage to touch that subject. >> the station suspended bergin and demoted him to a $300 job with one weekly assignment saying its policy is reporters must be objective and not declare personal opinions on the afrmt bergin resigned and explained what he did with megyn kelly. >> i was trying to add some context and balance and, yes, look, there's no doubt i went off the reservation and made a couple of rogue remarks at the end. i knew what i was doing. >> i say what sean bergin did was courageous.

you're saying? >> let's have a little more context. let's also remind people the woman he interviewed, late husband shot and killed a policeman. the woman said herself i wish he'd shot more cops. that's so offensive and heinous. look, he spoke to something that juan williams addressed five or six years ago in his book "enough," enough about the pathological black culture. if bergin had cited that book on the air and said, as expert juan williams says, he might still have his job. >> the way bergin put it, black men from fatherless families committing crimes without qualifications, do you find that in any way offensive? >> offensive, no. it's true. that's the thing. it would be great if he had the statistics and research to back it up on the air. then it would seem he was doing reporting rather than expressing his point of view. >> the fact that it was off the

cuff. >> the fact that it was in the moment. in other words, he's reporting on a crime story and then expressing this. sean himself whoi think is a hero for me having dared to say this, he, himself says he went rogue by doing that. he understands that. let me say what he tried to do is right. there's so many times when you see stories reported and people don't get to the root cause and the truth at the heart of the matter and sean bergin did that. >> he had no business doing what he did. his job is as a reporter. i've been on the streets of washington, d.c., covered stories exactly like this. i know if i had uttered an opinion about this, i would have been fired. that is his job. if he wants to editorialize, then he needs to go to his bosses and say i want to do a piece on x. he's not being courageous. he's breaking the rules. >> you think he should have been fired? >> i do, i do. he brought up an issue that is very important to society and to this country. but he is not the person to do it.

>> if you go to the media research center or news busters, you see all the time reporters expressing opinions on issues and they don't get fired. nothing happens to them at all. in this case i think the hysterical reaction of news 12 to fire him or push him out was overkill. >> might have been. let me just say also this week in the news, two reporters working in the middle east who expressed opinions and got sanctioned. one, diana magnate who wrote in a tweet the israelis watching her over gaza and said if she uttered the wrong words, she was in trouble. she called them a terrible name. then i'm man mohyeldin taken off because his coverage was favorable to the palestinians. he was then put back. you can't express opinion, even in a tweet, even in terms of your coverage. you have to be careful. >> neither of them were fired. >> how is it different then from this case, juan?

you can't express opinion, period. >> this guy got fired. >> he got demoted in a way where he didn't have much of a job left. i agree he broke the rules. there should be some punishment, we always talk about reporters bringing the news. i think the punishment was too harsh. what if he had been, you'll do aa report on fatherless families. >> we don't know his history there. on megyn's show he took a pot shot. we don't know the whole history here. has he done it before? we just don't know. >> we do know it's a real issue. juan's book, what howie said about the three-part series. whether we think the issue is too many guns or fatherless children. there's a larger context that triggered all this, an innocent policeman, hispanic by the way, gets murdered and ambushed.

>> give me the statistic when you're reporting on it. don't just make it your opinion. say, x percent of persons. >> in chicago alone, 22 people shot in 12 hours. >> final word. >> i think it's important a black journalist organization saying there's no direct correlation between fatherless and shooting cops, i would agree with that. the root cause is dysfunction in that community, black community that's poor and very much anti-authority and sean bergin was write about it. >> juan williams, jim pinkerton, thanks very much. ahead on "media buzz" my conversation with john mccain. could rupert murdock end up owning hbo and warner brothers? whether the $80 million bid could succeed. ke

rupert rupert murdock already controls an empire that ranges from the fox news channel, 20th century fox, the "wall street journal." now an $80 million bid to buy time warner. joining us from new york is charlie gas perino. time warner's board has turned this down. that, in part, is because it doesn't want to be sold? >> always strange reporting on your own boss. i would say this. my little contribution to this thing before i got thrown out of sun valley, i reported there was broad-based interest in time warner. once time warner began selling off various parts, the cable division, the magazine part, it was down to a certain core confident like hbo, cnn. there's a lot of interest in this, particularly silicon valley, companies like google

and amazon. we didn't know mr. murdock put his bid in already. i think that's really his end game, that time warner's end game is to get this bid, whether it's mr. murdock's, google's, amazon's, as high as possible. i think mr. murdock went into this, based on my sources, that he knew they would reject the initial one so he'd have to come back again. >> that's pretty common. >> this guy plays the game, mr. murdock knows what's going on, 15 steps ahead. >> culturally speaking do you think there's an aversion to rupert murdock in the elite halls of the time warner board room? >> maybe. there's no aversion to money, though. that's the only thing that matters. ly tell you this, i can't tell you who is going to ultimately win. i talked to my sources out there. they tell you one thing you don't bet against, you don't bet against mr. murdock. he's one of the best in the business.

i can't guarantee he's going to win this. >> he could lose. he tried to get the "wall street journal" and they said no, no, no and finally said yes. >> this is a different ball game. this is a company that's done well. its stock has done well. it could do even better and could get another bid. i think based on my sources, i'm a little scared to say opinion here. >> go right ahead. >> based on my sources, that the end game is to get somebody else involved, get google involved, get amazon involved and let the bidding begin. this company is not going to go for $80 a share. the only thing i can tell you, again, what i reported last week, this company has been for sale since they started jet tissing various parts of it. >> a lot of talk murdock wants to get bigger. of course hbo, the sports franchise of time warner would

be useful. federal regulators could object on anti-trust grounds. murdock said he would sell off cnn. if that were to happen, would abc, cbs be interested? >> cbs has already said -- the ceo of cbs is basically saying he's interested. cnn may not have great ratings but it does pretty well. it makes money. it's got a brand. it's definitely going to be sold. here is the thing, the bottom line is this, this company, no matter who buys it is gone. this company has been takeover bait literally since they sold off the magazine part. it's a matter of who. >> i predict the story is not over. you've made that clear. charlie gas reno, we'll have your back. >> love to. up next, john mccain takes on the media coverage of the border crisis and the blame game over iraq. later a cnbc reporter gets

blasted by a reporter from cnbc.

an hour, 7:00 eastern and 4:00 p.m. on the west coast. now back to "media buzz." whether the issue is illegal immigration, foreign policy or plain politics, john mccain remains one of the most visible members of congress. a fixture on television, sometimes at odds with his own party and the press. today we're turning the tables and give him the chance to critique the mainstream media. i sat down with the republican senator here in the washington bureau. >> john mccain, welcome. >> thank you, howard. >> let's start with immigration. the media cast you as an immigration reformer. you campaigned in 2008 on immigration reform. you've been highly critical of president obama over those illegals that have come over the border. >> i think you can argue that from one respect. on the other respect you can view this, one reason i'm so

critical and such a polarizing event that it hurts our ability. in fact some observers say the ability to sell comprehensive immigration reform because now the opponents are saying, see, the broken borders. we have to secure or borders first. which, by the way, i agree with. >> has the press created sympathy for these children who are in difficult situations, made a dangerous journey. has that muddied the water? >> my problem with the press coverage is not that they're sympathetic to these young children. we're all sympathetic. where i believe i'm critical of the press is legitimately critical is their emphasis or lack of emphasis on what happens to these children on the way up. the train of death, the rapes, the total abuse of children. so many on the left and in the

media are saying, gee, it's so terrible that they are in the conditions in which they're now, once they get here. well, it's a total abuse of human rights on the way here. >> a lot of people as you know say the press has been very similar at the timic to barack obama. you ran against him six years ago. has that been as true in the second term where there have been all these scandals and controversies? >> i think the press in some ways would have been harder on george w. bush when you look around the world and see the turmoil in the world today, literally every place you look is in some kind of turmoil. so i think the media in many respects, particularly when i read some of the, quote, commentators' columns, they continue to apologize and justify what is clearly a failed national security policy on this administration. >> is that true with the current

chaos in iraq? now you, in fairness, were very critical of the war in the george w. bush and donna rumsfeld. a lot of people in the media, dick chain nay has something to say, those of you who supported the invasion in 2003 are discredited because you never apologized for your misjudgment. >> the reason i think some of us don't apologize for our misjudgment is because the secretary of state, one of the most respected individuals in the world went before the united nations security council. >> colin powell. >> and made a compelling argument that saddam hussein had weapons of mass destruction. >> which turned out to be wrong. >> which turned out to be wrong. but faced with the same scenario again, the most highly respected man in america literally making that case, i would have made the same judgment and cast the same vote. now, also the fact is we did have it won.

also what i find totally lacking in the media is they accept this idea that it was all the iraqi's fault that we didn't leave a residual force behind. >> jon stewart took a shot at you. >> john mccain, he was on so many shows you'd think he just won "dancing with the stars." >> you've been on "the daily show." is jon stewart fair to republicans? >> no. but it doesn't matter really. he's a comedian -- >> also a social critic who has a viceable following among young people. >> he's a very entertaining and funny guy. but when he says things which he's entitled to -- after all, he's a late night comic, that are absolutely wrong. he gets away with it. it is what it is. i frankly have no beef with late night comedians who make fun of politicians. that's the nature. >> you're a big target, you and

your colleagues. >> respected commentators who are columnists particularly say things that absolutely are contradicted by the facts like, oh, well, we wanted to leave a force behind in iraq but the iraqis wouldn't take it. that's just wrong. >> when you ran for president in 2000, i spent a lot of hours on the bus with you. you spent hours and hours and hours talking to reporters and were a media darling. when you flan 2008 you had a more contentious relationship and didn't offer that access. what changed? >> everybody has their own version of events. at least in my view and those around me, it became a rather adversarial relationship. it's very unfortunate. >> more of a gotcha relationship? >> i guess kind of a classic example, i was being interviewed and the guy said how many houses do you own? i don't own any houses. >> you're saying it's your

wife's? >> the point is, i just -- it was not -- many of the comments i made in the context of a long conversation, if you took a sentence out you could be critical. well, that was happening to us more and more. frankly, one of the real disappointments to me and i'll take the blame for it is the deterioration of relationship that wasn't that we were so much friends. but we had kind of an open relationship and the more time i was able to spend with the media, the more i was able to make them understand exactly where i was coming from. we lost that during the 2008 campaign. >> during the bush years you were so frequently described as a maverick, i think it was attached to your name on the computer. but then after president obama won, you were a grumpy old man, you were a sore loser. what did you make of that tonal

shift? >> i found it fascinating. when i came out and said donald rumsfeld has to resign, the iraq war is failing, oh, he's a grumpy old man. if i say the president has to replace his national security team. excuse me. when i say donald rumsfeld -- there's the brave maverick standing up against his own party. when i say the national security team is not serving this president well, he's a grumpy old man. >> and everyone is on twitter ten seconds later saying mccain said this or taking shots at you. >> at the same time you have to have the maturity to recognize that's the nature of the business we were in. i will freely admit to you that years ago i used to get a lot more angry than i do today. i'm still not happy -- >> john mccain admitting he got angry. here ooes a headline. you're suggesting you've mellowed a bit in that regard? >> i think so, but i haven't lost my fire i hope. but at the same time i've tried harder and harder to understand

that these things are going to happen. am i completely immune to being unhappy about it? hell no>> a postscript in a mom. the arizona senator says the press botched the tail of his calling two fellow republicans wacko birds. later matt lauer and savannah guthrie wind up shooting the breeze with howard stern?

more now, my conversation with john mccain. >> everyone in washington remembers that you called ted cruz and rand paul wacko birds. the full quote in the "huffington post" is interesting, it's always the wacko birds on the right and left that get the media megaphone. why so? >> i think the colorful aspects of it. you were talking about the problem i had. i was reading from a "wall

street journal" editorial. that was what was in the editorial on the floor of the senate. i apologized to both rand paul and ted cruz. now, are you ever going to see a rendition of john mccain calling them wacko birds reading from an editorial and having apologized? no. nine times out of ten not. >> too colorful. >> you made my point. >> your daughter megan was on "the view." she was talking about your wife's butt. there's talk she might end up on the panel. >> i'm very proud of megan. we do have our disagreements. she's of a different generation. our discussions, she's a little fiery, too. we have very vigorous discussions. i think it's good for me, particularly more so than for her because i learn what people of her generation are thinking, what their priorities are and i think it makes me a better

senator. >> senator mccain, thanks for joining us. >> thanks, howard. after the break, one cnbc hot shot accuses another of being wrong about just about everything. the "today" show stars on the hot seat with howard stern. our video verdict is straight ahead. test.

test. editorial on the floor.verdict. rick santelli whose rants on cnbc helped kick off the tea party movement ran into a very loud critic this week, steve leaseman at the same channel. >> he basically told santelli that he didn't know what he was talking about and the footage of

their fisticuffs quickly went viral. >> every single -- >> would have lost people money. >> every single bit of advice you gave would have lost people money, rick. lost people money, rick. >> strategy. >> there is no piece of advice that you've given that's worked. >> he this need a better strategy. wait until next week -- >> not a single one. >> oh, yeah, there is. >> not a single one, rick. >> not can do his job or his job -- >> the higher interest rates never came, the inability of the u.s. to sell bonds never happened. the dollar never crashed, rick. there isn't a single one that's worked for you. >> ah, my head hurts. could you even understand a word of what they were saying? this is obviously some sort of stunt or ploy or behalf of the economics reporter to bait him. >> i think steve lease man did a good job. i don't think it's a stunt at all. these with two guys passionately disagreeing about economic policy. but i thought that rick santelli was going to be carried out from

the chicago trading floor if he got any more hyper exercise. >> attacking him for really -- >> on substance. >> i don't know. >> i am giving it a three. i didn't care for it. >> i'm giving it a nine. >> what? sorry. i didn't know that ahead of time. all right, the "today" show is being simulcast on sirius xm radio show. matt lauer and savannah guthrie showed up in the studio of howard stern. >> the king of all media had fun with savannah's pregnancy and lawy lauer's latest stunt. >> we could be talking about all kinds of things that -- >> sexual things? >> definitely. and frankly anything related to the bathroom. bathroom humor. >> what happened to morning television? i am friends with matt. we love to discuss politics. we love to talk about what's going on in the world.

now for crass ratings matt is going to be doused in cold water. >> it happened. >> it did happen. it sounds horrible. >> what's part of the 8:00 hour. in the 7:00 hour we still do cover the news of the day. >> okay. first of all i have to quibble with what you called howard stern the king of all media. he may be the king of all raunchy media but i don't quite agree with that. >> you have a 20-year-old conception of howard stern. he is one of the best interviewers in broadcasting. >> i agree he's a good interviewer. >> he's been on anderson cooper. >> he also talks about gross things. >> like getting doused with cold water? >> it's not gross. it may be the trend of morning television. >> well, i think this was mild. he's much more fun when he talks about getting drunk with matt lauer. >> or other things. anyway, i give it a five. i think savannah handled herself beautifully. >> i agree with that and i am giving it an eight. still to come. your best tweets and jon stewart sits down with hillary clinton.

man, what a love fest. >> well reasoned and eyewitness view to the history of those four years. and i think i speak for everybody when i say no one cares, they just want to know if you're running for president.

here are a few of your top here are you few of your two tweets.

write the coverage of the plane shootdown. >> mary watson, takes away coverage of all the illegals. strange how we go from one crisis to another under obama. >> too much coverage is being used as propaganda for a new cold war campaign. accurate but overblown. national news being pushed aside. starting to border on speculation and punditry. >> i think we're starting to calm down and see other stories bubble into cable, definitely on network news. >> i predict that on television this plane story will be just as big for the next week at least. >> i don't agree. >> not saying it should be. there are plenty of light moments when hillary clinton dropped by to chat with jon stewart. let's just say it wasn't an interrogation. >> if you were not, i think, running for president, all of this criticism, i truly believe this. there are two books out now that are exposes of you and the

family and all that. there is constant calls for testimony. there are con stabt parsing of words. >> yeah. >> if you stop that tomorrow, if you said, i am not running for president, it all stops. do you agree or disagree? >> i think a lot of people would lose their jobs if it all stopped. >> just these talking heads sitting around picking out every little thing and making fun of it. it's not right. >> could i -- could i say that i agree with you completely? >> lauren and i argued about this on "the o'reilly factor." >> was it instructive? was it informative? >> i think he asked her a lot of softball questions. >> did he? >> i think he got awe way with a lot of stuff. >> when he has conservative guests on he managed to secure them with humor. somebody like hillary clinton, it's kissy face. >> where did you come up with that word? he's a comedian, i get it. he says he's a comedian. i don't think he needs to be

held to that standard. >> this is such a cover story. he's a very talented saturist. >> he goes after kathleen sebelius. >> very rare occasions. did you think he went after hillary clinton in any way, shape, or form? >> no. i'm saying he has the capability of doing it. yes, he let her get away with a lot of things. i can still whack you. >> that's it for this edition of "media buzz." go tour our facebook i imagine a. we respond to your questions. we're back here next

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friends first" on this monday morning. i am heather childers. >> i am ainsley earhardt. thanks for starting your day off with us. we are going to talk about the unthinkable happening now for malaysia flight. pro russian specialists are sealing wreckage and even bodies. they are expected to demand international access to the scene as new evidence points to russresponsible. >> kelly wright now with the new information from the scene. he joins us live. >> good morning to you as well. the scene at the crash site is total chaos. they are removing the bodies from the crash site. they are placing the dead on a refrigerated train that is not working properly. also they are removing plane parts and disrupting the crime scene. evidence smounting russia played a role in the missile attack. >> russia arms these separatists, russia supports these sear