jon: jenna and i will be back in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> i'm andrea tantaros. harris faulkner, sandra smith, jedediah beale lou, today's #oneluckyguy, arthur eye dal lam. officially for the first time, outnumbered. >> rare in a man's life you get surrounded by this degree of greatness. no one is watching show to look at me. that is for sure. >> you're off to a great start. >> flattery gets you everywhere.

>> i learned that in law school when i did have hair. i appreciate being here. hopefully i can add a little something to the conversation. >> you always do, energy and fund. >> we're confident in you. >> right now on the hill, irs commissioner john koskinen back on the hot seat in the irs targeting scandal as lawmakers try to get to the bottom of the agency's ever changing story what happened to lois lerner's crashed hard drive and crashed hard drives of other irs employees. in previous testimony commission koskinen said lerner's email crashed, hard drive had crashed and gone for good and so were all the backup tapes. now an irs official in charge of keeping track of documents telling oversight investigators that those backups may not really be gone after all, and, an i.t. professional told investigators for another committee, house ways and means, lerner's drive was never destroyed in the first place but simply scratched. so which one is it? that is what republicans want to know. >> lois lerner's laptop was a new laptop.

it was not an old one and actually, the probability of her hard drive failing at that time was at the low, according to industry standards, was at the lowest possible time. does that surprise you? >> no. >> but it did you surprise you that her hard drive failed. >> no, i tell you my understanding about it from the industry it is 2 to 5% depending on the computers, will regularly -- >> out of this circle, if you have, if you have 10 times that amount, would you say that's an anomaly? >> question cuts right to the chase. she was on notice there was a problem and suddenly her computer crashes but, it is worse than that. the irs has identified 82 custodians of information that are relevant to the investigation and now we know from mr. kane's testimony last week, up to 20 may have had computer hard drive crashes. so this is way beyond the 3 to 5% the commissioner keeps citing this is approaching 25% of the relevant people that they have

identified have had computer problems and may not be able to get us the documents they need. >> okay. my head is spinning. this agency is supposed to be known of experts in record-keeping. they can't seem, not just to get their stories straight, they can't seem to produce records, not just on the hard drive but main server. arthur, a lot of people are wondering will we have anybody brought to justice? there was clearly a cover-up and they seem to be getting away with it. >> i put my lawyer hat. i actually am a criminal defense attorney f this woman, if lois lerner came to me and she was charged with this crime and this was her defense, andrea, i would say, listen, this isn't going to fly. no one will believe this. i think i'm pretty good with a jury. i'm not going to be able to convince 12 jurors that in your position with the technology at your disposal, the unlimited resources, your computer hard drive just, with this vital information died and you don't have it backed up anywhere? i had my son's pictures backed

up in five places. you don't have this? it is not credible. we can not convince a jury of this. we better brainstorm to come up with another defense because this will not work. >> seems, jedediah, maybe the best way to go about things and lot of lawmakers are weighing in on this, not target lois lerner's, because the top brass pled the fifth and ran away. but mid and lower level staffers seem to giving more information. you remember elizabeth, when d.c. tried to say it was cincinnati office, she said, no, it wasn't. it was washington, d.c. that told me to start looking through tea party records. should they start to get more information from the mid and low level staffers? >> hope that maybe those people would be embarrassed too. amazing to me there is no sense of shame. as you're saying, people carting this story, we're supposed to believe it? we have three different stories. no data that is recoverable. then it is shredded. now scratched. i'm starting to imagine sitting with a key scratching this ink up. this is absolutely absurd.

a lot of americans are asking is this deliberate? and how dumb do you think we really are? this story is absolutely ridiculous. >> i wonder, jedediah, if you say it is deliberate the entire thing or referencing the scratched specifically? because house investigators are questioning whether or not the scratch was an accident or if it was deliberate. that being said, more about this, the data being recoverable. so the in-house irs i.t. experts said that if this is a scratch, that means the data was recoverable, okay? they said that. what they went on to say, that they recommended, to the agency it seven, to bring in outside i.t. experts to then recover data. that fell on deaf ears. doesn't this make the case even stronger against the irs? that they were, they were told, hey, bring somebody else in here, we have to recover the data and didn't do it? >> yes. it is not credible. that is the word we use in my world. is it believable, 12 in my world, new york city jurors,

sanitation, school teachers, that as soon as you find out there's an issue your computer fails? i mean, really? no, you need to suspend reality to believe that is true. take it to the next level. it is not recoverable? was it lost in the ocean in hurricane sandy? >> think of scratching things, in '90s my paula abdul cd. cold-hearted snake could skip and. >> even if they scratched this, we've already been told by legal experts and i'm sure arthur can weigh in on this, they broke the law not having backups first place. it doesn't matter if it was scratched or not. >> six months they were supposed to keep copies. i would never see arthur back away for a fight. he would not take lois lerner's case. >> we would have to find a different way to fight it. that is not the answer. >> the other thing, as a reporter, if i were going to be investigating this for the news, the first thing i would be

looking at now, why is the story changing, right? what is the motive behind the story changing because there always is one? because somebody popped up with these e-mails, is that why? because the story is changing. the needle moved on this. it was destroyed, well, it was damaged. insurance company can replace if it is destroyed but fix it if it is damaged. where are they? the story is changing. i want to know why. >> that would be good thing. so many unanswered questions. new concerns about fraud and obamacare. undercover government investigators testifying on capitol hill today, telling lawmakers they were able to get taxpayer, subsidized health insurance using fake identities. they say it worked 11 out of 18 times they tried to do this. the weak link seemed to be call centers that handled applications for thousands of people who are not able to get through online. this is unbelievable. they tried these, under cover investigators tried online, by

phone. they used fake social security numbers. sometimes no social security number at all, harris. i mean, doesn't this just open the door and paint the picture of fraud, fraud all over this, this health care law? >> so the administration's immediate answer to this, well, in six instances they couldn't get through. that is not number you want to focus on. here were numbers you want to know. there were 18 attempt, 11 were successful to gain access to obamacare when they knew they didn't have a reason to have the subsidies, when there was fraud involved. so 11 out of 18 times. that is very high success rate for the fake guys, right? the other thing you look at here which is interesting too, the response was, well we're going to look into this. why don't we stop doing it until we can figure out what is broken about it? >> because it is pervasive, not just in obamacare. it is excuse me, it is all over the place on all government programs. there is a, there is units within the district attorney's

offices based on welfare fraud, based on workman's compensation fraud. >> that's true. >> so, in anytime, from the beginning of time, when the government is giving you something for free, there are people, unlike us, whose integrity and morals are not up to standards we are, and they lie. whether hurricane sandy relief. whether katrina relief, anything else. people are not good people designated for people that need it and take it for themselves because of greed. those people should be severely punished. >> this is signature legislation. >> i agree. >> you're releasing a law and a website that wasn't ready for prime time, verification process is obviously all messed up, what happens to the people that are getting subsidies that shouldn't get subsidies? this is enormous mess. >> this fault picture and broaden it out to the two court rulings yesterday, one says the government can subsidize health insurance.

the other says we can't. we have dual rulings. your take on that? >> 30 seconds or less what is going to happen is what is going to happen is the court in washington, that ruled it illegal. >> yeah. >> government, obama is going to ask for not three judges but all the judges on the court to rule which could be in his favor because they're mostly democratic judges. if they agree with the richmond court, then the supreme court will not hear this case. if they don't agree to hear the case or don't agree with the richmond court, you will see this case go up to the supreme court and parse three words. it is a system created by the state, quote, unquote, created by the states. do you take that literally has to be created by the states or can it be created by federal government? that is all encompassing and subsidies go into effect. >> something real quick, viewers are panicked what this means. they should be. this is what happens when bills are passed in middle the night -- >> no one reads them. >> we don't know in it. clearly states sandra, in this law, through an exchange

established by the states which only 16 states did. what does that mean? a lot of low income, middle class people will not get their subsidies. you know what they will do, drop their coverage. cheaper for them to do that. >> right back into the emergency rooms. >> who will be in the system? the most vulnerable. the most sick. this is causing chaos in insurance industry, i think death spiral will unravel entire law. >> ahead of open enrollment period in november. more uncertainty. we heard president obama and administration say they didn't know about the va and other scandals until they heard it on the news. mr. obama just told a group of supporters, he doesn't watch the news. what is the truth? literal attack on republicans written into an episode of the vampire drama, "true blood." we have reaction from senator ted cruz, who is at center of it all. right after the show, catch more from the couch on the web, log on to foxnews.com/outnumbered.

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>> welcome back to "outnumbered." hbo vampire hit show, "true blood" is already known for racy and gory content but can also get pretty political. a couple of scenes going after republicans including texas senator ted cruz. vampires invade a fund-raiser thrown at george w. bush library and along with side comments from the characters. >> probably already left the dais. the second i told her that is where mommy and daddy were going, they hung up. she will be there. >> looks like we're going to a gala. >> do you have pictures of your parents? >> you will never get in. you're vampires. security will be tight. and they only invite [bleep]. >> you don't know us, sweetheart we can be [bleep]. >> senator cruz shot back on social mesterday, writing of all the place i never now to be mentioned hbo's "true blood"

vampire show would have been near the top of the list. sunday night they aired misogynous and profanity ridden episode where texas republicans are murdered attending a ted cruz fund-raiser. i'm sorry to lost the vampire vote but astonished and amused hbo suggests that hardcore leftists are blood-sucking fiends. andrea, do you think that response was correct, ted cruz's response? do you think he gave the right response given situation, kind of funny, kind of politcal, what do you think? >> i would have not have suggested he weighed in on it. >> ignore it then in. >> looks petty. looks like republicans are whining. if you don't like hbo, don't subscribe the hhbo. left and hollywood targets conservatives. this makes republicans look good, because the woman was seeking refuge at ted cruz's fund-raiser but attacked by vampires. what i rather speak out about, conservatives say something, call out the hypocrites because the violence in that particular

scene, was egregious. the way they use guns and way they profit off of guns. where are all the celebrities that like to lecture us about gun violence all the time? >> good points. >> remember we've seen this recently, "game of thrones" a couple seasons ago had a head on a spike that closely resembled george w. bush, a series also on the same network that. being said, i agree with you, andrea. there are a few ways for ted cruz to deal with this. i think he could have ignored it. he could have used humor here. i didn't think his response was funny. i think it was down right serious. he tweeted out about it. two hours later tied it to democratic voter fraud. think a little bit out there. i don't know that was a great strategy. >> harris, culture shapes politics. do you think that people viewing this are influenced and their view of republicans becomes more negative as a result? do you think their turned off to politics injected into entertainment all the time? >> in my humble opinion i don't think anybody watching this show

is steeped in politics forefront of their mind watching it. i don't see there is political indoctrination going on. i thought it was interesting, i went to ted cruz's facebook page where he posted it. i wanted to see, sandra, how does that really play out? should he have not said anythings as andrea said. mary brewer, a follower of ted cruz's online. just proves you're reaching more and more people and vampires. so, i think people saw the humor that he was trying to address. >> right. >> one part bit i really took exception to the fact there was violence against a certain party. forget about which party it is. i think that can be insightful. if we live in culture to blame videogames and i think you can blame direct hit on another political party. >> hard to keep your mouth shut when you're called ah twice on television. >> i don't know. we hear it all the time. >> you know, it was, legitimate, gratuitous and disrespectful in my opinion. >> politicians love it. so many of them and they just

love it. >> can not be that thin-skinned. >> they say, what should we say? craft a response. i've been there. i helped them do it. i think he should have said you know what, i have bigger fish to fry. >> how many in the vampire audience actually knew who ted cruz was? >> the hope they will google him and get more enraged. but you can hear more from this, from senator ted cruz himself. he will join our friend sean hannity tonight. tune in 10:00 eastern right here on the fox news channel. i'm sure he has plenty to say. all eyes are on putin's russia as intelligence officials say it created the conditions that led to the downing of the malaysian airliner. with no direct link will russia face any repercussions? in scandal after scandal the obama administration insisted they didn't know about the problems until they heard it on the news. the president is changing his tune, saying he doesn't watch the news because he knows about everything they're reporting on. which one is it, barack obama?

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♪ >> welcome back to "outnumbered" and other round of airstrikes hitting eastern ukraine right now. the defense ministry says two ukrainian military jets, fighter jets have been shot down. fox news can confirm that now. the ukrainian pilots also were elected but it is not yet known if they survived. apparently there is a search party looking for them at this hour. also a short time ago we began seeing first victims of malaysian airlines flight 11 flying into the netherlands. six days ago they were aboard the plane shot out of the sky. forensic specialists will identify some people who died because not everybody has been transported. some bodies are still at the scene. this is developing as well. u.s. intelligence officials are

announcing russia created the conditions which led to the missile that took down that jetliner to do so. they say russian-backed separatist it is likely fired it. we're waiting to learn if any russian operatives were present at the launch. senior intelligence officials say russia is continuing to supply separatists with air defense training, tanks and rocket launchers. meanwhile russian president putin says he wants to see a cease-fire but same time blames ukraine for what is happening. arthur, some developments this morning, our james james rosen e across this, apparently last month ukraine quietly asked the united states and nato for the kind of equipment that would jam radars that russian and anti-aircraft systems use to lock their missiles on to planes. >> and obviously the president, whoever is in charge of that area of the world made a decision not to do so, and when president obama ran, he ran as

transformational president, right? he was going to change america and he did in terms of, my opinion, if george w. bush was around, he would be sending everything over there, he would be involved. he would have us engaged. whether that is right or wrong for smarter people to figure out. but i think president obama has made a decision, we will throw some sanctions at them. we'll use harsh language but we're not going to start getting in middle of this and, of course, no one had a crystal ball all of these children on this plane would be killed and passenger jet was going to go down. but a decision was clearly made last couple weeks, not to provide them with these types of weapons. >> you didn't need a crystal ball to figure out they would shoot something out of the sky. we knew it, two mondays ago they shot down a cargo plane. andrea, i do want to ask what we could be doing at this point? senator dan coates, republican indiana, had a three or four point plan the president should be following. what are your thoughts? >> i think we shouldn't waste time on investigations and put a

lot of weight in these investigations because we'll not get to the bottom of this. the black boxes are sent to a city which is a black box which is moscow. russians are supposedly part of this investigation? like the doj here at home investigating the administration. doesn't make a lot of sense. i would not put a lot of weight on that the president is former community organizer. he should be organizing the international community. it needs to be a strong united west on this. whatever they decide. we need europe and united states on same page. only way you can get putin's attention if you do crushing, crippling sanctions. >> money. you know what one of my friend mentioned to me, i know this is outlandish, fifa. the world cup is in russia four years. billions an billions of dollars. if all the european communities, spain, italy, france, number one teams, germany, champs say we're not going. we're not going. billions of dollars. >> andrea is echoing what senator dan coates of indiana is saying.

ask entire civilized world to join united states to condemn it. >> he can do that but not that they will. that is what barack obama was hoping for. >> why hasn't that happened. >> europe is afraid of stifling their own economy. that is what is wrong. >> oil money, correct. >> they need to target russia's economy is extremely fragile. arthur, you do business in italy. russia's gdp is half of that of italy. we're talk about a very fragile economy. these sanctions jedediah and andrea talk about, they need to target the energy industry and financial industry. go after them where it hurts. guess what we could do, gain more energy independence in the united states. the leverage putin has is natural gas over europe. we could -- >> annex more areas. we saw him cutting off utilities to different areas. now that he is trying to annex this part of ukraine, already taken crimea. >> i think it is clear the talk is sheep, too.

you have to condemn this first. we have condemned it. that is talk. we have already established that talk does not equal diplomacy. talk does not fix these problems. we have to go in now and do something. >> they used to know the u.s. had their back on things with reagan and other presidents. now they think, is obama going to have our back if we take a strong stance? everybody has to be strong with a backbone. >> not sure we all do that. >> there will be sacrifice. >> exactly right. seems scandal after scandal president obama and members of his administration say they didn't know about the problem, well, until they heard it on the news but president obama appeared to contradict himself when he said this on his three-day fund-raising trip out west. quote, whatever they are reporting about, i usually know. well, it does make sense that president and his people should know what is going on. given all the information at their fingertips. but listen to the administration's pass explanations when they learned about all the scandals. >> specific allegations i think

were reported first by your network out of phoenix i believe we learned about them through the reports. >> let me take the irs situation first. i first learned about it from the same news reports i think most people learned about this. i think it was on friday. >> let me just be clear. we don't have any independent knowledge of that. he found out about in in news reports yesterday on the road. >> i think we learned about it after that, from the press accounts that were in the paper, following the irs's notification to the congress. >> ah. >> the irs, va -- >> i get it now. >> on and on. they can't even get their stories straight. >> i get it now. we watch the news now. we didn't used to watch the news, right? >> oh, is that it? >> we use watch the news, and now we don't. it flip-flops. >> i think, i didn't hear what the president said, i don't watch the news, i think maybe what he is saying, 6:30, doesn't say okay, family let's sit around walter cronkite like they

used to and watch news. when breaking news happens, i'm positive they're putting it on the fox news chan they. they want to see what is going on. i think that is what he was trying to say. i'm not really watching the news. also getting so much criticism in the news that he is going to say i don't listen to what they say. i'm doing my own thing anyway. i'm not obsessing. >> isn't that what is happening here? can we make assumption he doesn't get his information from the news pause he has been watching news and we've been talking about him learning everything from the news? >> yes. he has been brutalized because people are saying where is your leadership? the president isn't supposed to have to sit down to watch the sinks news to figure out what is going on. -- 6:00 news. i watch the news. but i already know what happens. >> how inauthentic were the comments when you heard him in the first place and heard jay carney saying we found out about it from the news? ridiculous. >> if you're going to give an excuse, don't give one that makes you look completely incompetent. >> or makes it look like he

thinks we're a bunch of idiots. the president didn't find out about that until 6:00. come on. >> long wait times and deaths happening in va from the news? should somebody have lost their job? nobody loses their job in this administration. >> somebody should know that outside of a news agency, that is somebody's job, right? there is head of va. somebody is supposed to know these things. yes, the president should not be learning those types of things on the news. >> do you believe then, that his comments, that i don't pay attention to the news? >> i don't know which one to believe as i said he told two different stories. it has been i watch the news. i found it out here. i didn't watch the news. i didn't find it out there. but there is something else what he said, and direct response i feel into the other criticism that you hear about the obama administration and that is the i didn't know defense. he says, he already knows. he had to hit a two-fer there. not only do i not watch the news but i already knows. they can't really use the

defense now per the nsa, va, all the other investigations that are growing on, "fast & furious," just to kick it old school with the scandals. i mean, you know. >> every time they are doing cleanup, i think from pr perspective it makes it worse. now if he is saying i already know everything, i knew all this, he chose inaction, shows not to speak up about the va scandal, chose not to do anything about the irs and he already knew? this thing gets messier more lies you tell. >> i can hear arthur say, back of my mind, did you know it then or know it now? >> if you were cross-examining him on it, would be mincemeat and shredded. he is probably making offhanded comment in fund-raiser in very comfortable place. everyone in that room is giving him 10,000s to say hello. probably saying i don't care what he is saying anyway. i will do what is my own thing. i don't even listen to them. which obviously is not accurate. >> he has to know people are

expecting leadership. even if he doesn't know they expect him to know. he better start pretending what he knows is going on and somebody in that administration knows what is going on. we're watching. >> wish he would stand you, who do you think knows what is going on? >> great question. >> favorite tv shows, this is according to the telegraph, number six on the list is sports center. that is news. >> that is news. >> watching sports center. >> new violence in graz is a. neither side appears to be backing down. the latest on conflict. a new grading system in one school district ditching a, b, c for a bunch of different letters. we'll look whether the system is helpful or just plain confusing. after the show head to foxnews.com/outnumbered. click overtime tab. send us your questions or comments what you want to hear about. twitter us, facebook, email, we're all there.

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>> this is a fox news alert. we have just learned that the faa has extended its warning and prohibition for american flights in and ought of tel aviv in israel. this started because of conflict between happen mass and israel. the fact a missile was fired inside of israel about a mile from the main international airport there. they made the choice yesterday, and we saw airlines, delta, united, us air, voluntarily pulling their planes down and we'll not fly them back and forth in and out of tel aviv. the faa is not going to per american airlines. they're extending that for mother 24 hours to assess the

danger. i do want to mention secretary of state john kerry did go against this faa ban and was able to land inside of israel as he is trying to get a cease-fire there. as news warrants we'll bring you updates. jedediah. >> school is out for the summer. for first time one d.c. district handed out report cards with different grading system. a, b, c, are gone. of the they are p for proefficient, i for in progress and n for little or no progress. the school wanted to change to standards based grading system with more detail system of children's progress. parents say it is confusing. harris, if your kid came home with a bunch ps proficient across the board, would you know what that meant? >> i'm taking notes as you say this my first-grader, going into second grade is going through this, they're changing the grading system. in progress, would that be all

of us? we're all in progress of something. you know what think it does? takes identification of comparing children one to the next away. takes away some of the competition. i don't have a problem with competition. i think an a should still have what it means. it should, i don't know if p for proficient really, that is like, e or eefficient or s, for sufficient. it doesn't have the same meaning. >> what could p be? 80%, 90%, 98%? those are three very different levels of assessment and earning. when kid comes home with 80, they need improvement. when they come home with 98, my kid is on point. >> if i came home with the 80s, my mother would make pasta. good jobs. 80s is great. i was like anything to get a "c." that is all i needed. i already live in the world with my eight-year-old going into third grade. he lives, i don't know what it is it is not a, b or c. again i'm going to defer to educators who i hope have

studied this i hope have put some thought into this. >> educator, former educator. >> my mom was a teacher for 40 years. i don't know if i would adhere to this for high school but i believe we're talking about, first, second, third, fourth, fifth grade. this i think teaches, gives parents a little more insight what their children are up to. proficient means they know how to read or exceptionally standard, they're reading real well. what is next one, in progress? >> in progress. >> they need a little help from the teacher. i'm already accustomed to this. i've been dealing with this for three years. i don't think it is the worst thing in the world. >> you have to school me on it. >> no problem. >> i am like you, arthur was an exceptional student. >> still is. >> but, seriously, in my school we did not have a, b, c, d, f. grade school, up to the fifth grade. sixth grade -- >> did you have this. >> something similar. i was going to call home to get somebody look at my report card. but i think it was something

like above average. average, below average. >> mine was excellent. it was excellent, good, fair, and u was unsatisfactory. i got one u, show self-control. couldn't watch "starsky & hutch" tv for two weeks. it was horrible. >> i'm sure your mother was amazing discipline. >> my father was the disciplinarian. my mother was the cook. >> agree with you, harris, in competitive atmosphere i think is necessary. elementary school is different environment. i will defer to educator. former principal, jedediah i do think that is age, need to encourage people to show up and read and learn and find what your interests are, not so much hold them to grade scale. >> you are grading them. >> the way you do this successfully have comment section where teaches are forced to explain what that means per course, so when the parents get that, don't just get a letter, they get comment. >> i like this. it gives more detail. >> i'm outnumbered. >> i remember, i would cram for

a test and if i got an a, the teacher knew that maybe i wasn't getting best grades she would say i'm in progress on this, i'm not doing exceptional. >> i find that hard to believe, andrea. >> that's what i did. actually liked this. >> parents, ask questions, if you're unsure what these letters mean go up to the school and ask. >> they could change it. a for awesome. >> dealing with massive humanitarian crisis at southern border what the u.s. could learn for how other countries handle the same problem. big changes with kids and tackle football. the new limits on practice in one state that could catch on in other communities. is the nanny state going too far? ♪

>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first to jon scott what is happening in second hour of "happening now." hey, jon. jon: sandra, president obama in three-day fund-raising events in california. plenty of criticism about this trip when world events deteriorate of the is it fair?

we'll ask jonah goldberg into. >> wildfires in eastern washington burned hundreds of square miles and destroyed 150 homes. the president has declared an emergency in washington state. at least 47 dead, 11 injured after a plane crashed during an emergency landing off taiwan. the plane went down in severe weather, crashed into a neighborhood. we'll have a live report. that is all ahead "happening now." >> thanks, jon, we'll be watching. jon: thanks, sandra. >> i'm clearly outnumbered here but now it is my turn with this story in what could be the nanny state once again thinking it knows best. california governor jerry brown signing into a law a bill that limits the number of full-contact football practices for teenagers. the new rules limit practices for middle school and high school teams to two per week during the regular season but also prohibits team from holding full contact practices during the off-season of the law adds new guidelines how to medically treat a teenager with a concussion. so, are we like, is this going

into the category of wussification of america? too much, too involved. >> this is spot on. >> sandra, you are the athlete. you're, actually everyone here is more athletic than i am. go with the lady in red. very intimidating wearing red. we'll get to that in a moment. >> hold back. i actually talked to the head of the nfl hall of fame yesterday and he alluded to the fact that all sports evolve over time and there are medical professionals that have come out in full force saying that there are lasting effects of these concussions. i have a lot of nephews who play football. i'm concerned about it all the time. he says the nfl is better than before. look at ratings and taken dance prove that. should they be implementing these measures to keep people more safe? yes, i think so. i know there are -- >> harris, i know what you will say. >> i think this is spot on. i have a lot of friend who played in the nfl. we had terry bradshaw on this couch.

>> who suffered a lot of concussions. >> back then the equipment was nowhere near as good. >> what they say it is cumulative effect. >> yep. >> if you can start this as earlier age, i don't know if high school is where you want to do it. >> or middle school. >> applies to both. >> i could see it in the earlier years but if this save as child from growing up to be an adult who plays a sport and who has all of the problems with, i think it is great idea. >> terry bradshaw said, i signed up for this and knew what i was get to and made a lot of money. these are middle schoolkids and high schoolkids. i think it is stupid use of legislative time in california to do this i'm not a coach. so i don't know if full practice or two-contact practice will actually work or not. i think if the kid might have concussion, there is part of this to make sense to not let them play. i'm not a coach. here is my issue. will we have every high school and middle school coach in america consulting a lawyer

about their practices? you know what will happen, like everything else. making so many laws it will be ones with the most money and most access to the best lawyer like you, arthur aidala, then them figure out how to get through. >> get to education. >> leaving it to the school. >> or coach. >> i don't know that the state should be dictating this kind of thing. i'm just curious. i'm not a football girl. lot about football, but how do you have non-full contact practice. >> that is like a football game in. >> does that actually work? >> i spoke to lawrence taylor, greatest defensive player ever, he said it is a good idea. got to go with lt. >> i agree with andrea. you can't have rich kid hiring attorneys. this can't be ones. >> lawyers in football now? become everything -- >> we need the work. we need the work. need the work. andrea. don't take it away. >> boys will have no other choice but sit on the couch. >> hold it. everybody listen to the lady in

red, please. >> well-done. >> women who want to befriend other women, you may want to leave that red dress at home. i'm not listening. how her fellow women, how they see the lady in red? what do you guys think? >> i'm thinking it is all good. all good in the hood. ♪ ... ... ... ... ... ...

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♪ >> if you are a woman wearing red, you are likely being judged. i didn't think this as a sexual threat. a new study finds that that is how women view each other when they are dressed in red and prompts them to fiercely guard their man. researchers say if you want to make friends with other women you have to wear something other than red. >> hey, listen, by the way they did the study with women. they showed pictures of who looked the most threatening. using white. and green and red. red is a color of fire and blood. >> and there i go. this is all about men, right in protecting your man. you walk in a room, that is where your eye goes.

if you look at a bunch of cars, >> the red car gets the most tickets. >> yes. i don't want their insurance to go up. >> who cares about making friends with other women? let it out. >> women don't care. women want to attract men's attention. i think you look awesome sandra. >> would you introduce your guy to a woman like. that >> she is a married woman. of course. if i can't introduce a guy to a woman in the red dress, i am not with the right guy. >> do you think a woman dressed in red is trying to get attention? >> absolutely. it exudes confidence. and that gives you bomb. >> we love having you here. and wo the live chat right now, what you mean by bomb. we'll stay right here with

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