own pickup truck into park. he gets run over by his own truck, though he was not seriously hurt. he faces dui charges. karma. jenna: we'll leave it there. see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. >> fox news alert. a plane carrying 116 people that vanished off the radar has likely crashed we're now learning. the french ministry of defense says two of its fighter jets are searching for the wreckage now from the air algiers plane from the nation of mali. it took off in neighboring country on its way to algeria. 50 minutes into the flight the officials say the crew's last message ask air traffic control to change its path due to stormy weather. air algiers says no americans were onboard. more news as we get it. ♪ >> and now "outnumbered."

i'm harris faulkner. here today with sandra smith, kirsten powers. >> kimberly guilfoyle, today's #oneluckyguy, brian kilmeade. outnumbered in a lavender tie. >> is that a problem? >> tells me you're in touch with your feminine side. i find that to be special. >> the femininity handled. i need masculine gene right now. a lot of serious stuff going on in the world. >> let's move to it. we begin in the middle east, a new day of heavy fighting in the gaza strip between the israeli military and hamas militants. secretary of state john kerry is in that region as you may know trying to broker a cease-fire still and so far no clear signs of any progress. israel is saying 2,000 rockets have been fired at the jewish state since july 8th and they are fighting back. meanwhile the faa ban on flights in and out of tel aviv has been lifted as questions are growing whether it was actually politically motivated? texas senator ted cruz is asking

about that today. we'll ask more about that in a moment. first let's go to the ground of the let's bring john huddy live on the israel gaza border. john? >> reporter: harris, we're getting more information about the apparent israeli artillery strike on a u.n.-run school serving as a shelter in an area ben anaon in distance behind knee in the northeastern part of gaza. what we're hearing at this point, the artillery fire hit the school possibly according to witnesses on the ground and witnesses came from tank cannon fire from the israel side of the border. the death toll is at least 15 people were killed. possibly as many as 200 were injured battered in a schoolyard, possibly getting ready to evacuate the school. now is unclear why it was hit but the israeli defense forces released a statement saying quote, the idf is currently in

the mid of combat with hamas areas in the area who are using civilian infrastructure and international symbols as human shields. in the course of the afternoon several rockets launched by hamas from within the gaza strip landed in the ben hanun area. the idf is reviewing the incident. this school is one of 83 have that been serving as shelter for the now more than 140 people who have sought refuge into these shelters as they have been trying to escape the fighting and violence as it is now in day 16 operation protective edge and day six of the ground offensive. back on the ground here, we have seen and heard artillery fire, tank cannon fire, all day. in fact in the distance there was just a massive airstrike as well. so the fighting very much continues here along the israel-gaza border as we wait more information and more details about this apparent israeli strike, artillery strike

on a u.n. run school. as i said it has been serving as a shelter. harris? >> john huddy reporting live from that region. we appreciate the update, john. thank you very much. we'll go back to the controversy i mentioned here at home over the faa travel ban imposed on all american flights to and from israel. it has been lifted but republican senator ted cruz from texas whether the move all together as political way to impose economic pain on israel? he wants answers. >> congress deserves to know and the american people deserve to know was this politics from the white house or was this an airline safety decision? i think the facts strongly suggest it was politics in an effort to strong-arm the nation of israel. >> strong words. the state department responding to those claims with this. >> its ridiculous and offensive quite frankly. the faa takes its responsiblities very seriously. i will speak for them in that

case. they make these decisions based solely on security and safety of americans citizens period for anyone to suggest otherwise is ridiculous. >> politics of it all. brian, your response? >> my response is this, unless you have proof the faa head is playing politics, that is a a heck of a accusation to makes. there seems to be politics from almost every decision from the irs down, when you don't think there is politics down there is. i saw mayor bloomberg from another network opened up on reporter just bought it up as a question, could politics be involved? i thought that was out of line to begin with. bottom line, we'll walk away, hamas learned one thing. if we get close to airports we can shake the economy of the country of israel like no other operation. >> wow. so, we are giving education to the terrorists, kimberly? >> i have a problem with the way this was handled. look how opportunistic it is.

i think question timing and motives. that is intelligent conversation. we don't have direct proof. but it rises to the top of your head is this something that might be politically motivated. >> yes. >> curious timing secretary kerry going in there to work on negotiations a little bit after squeeze play to israel to put pressure on them to end the violence and end this conflict. so i haven't made up my mind bit yet but i'm thinking very strongly bit. >> it becomes part of the conversation because where we've been with this white house though panned nebulous, we won't say treatment but rolling out of its foreign policy of the we can't quite put our thumb on night there is 11 billion-dollar tourism industry that already has a lot of damage done. i agree with you, ted cruz didn't really ask questions, he was accusational from the start. former mayor of new york michael bloomberg's comments on another network which i thought were interesting. kerry made major point flying

into tel aviv an most secure airport you can fly into. he was asked if there was political motivation -- >> he blew up. >> he blew up. i don't get why we can't ask questions anymore? >> exactly. >> to your point, not really a question. it is kind of an accusation and sort of imply people think is what the a administration did with not one shred of evidence. one thing i was thinking about, look, considering what happened, we have a down airliner in a conflict zone in the ukraine. god forbid that had happened to an american plane or any plane flying into israel and then people would have been saying what is wrong with the obama administration? they didn't see what happened over there and didn't get involved in this? >> i see what you're saying, tying two things together. >> they're going to get criticized. we don't know if this was anything other than the faa playing it safe. >> perhaps it is a fair game type of question and get to the question and not be accusational

as question because what is really the relationship between president obama and israel right now? we haven't seen a rye warmth there. >> there isn't, the truth i don't think he has a great relationship with anybody. so he is alienated everyone we need to deal with over there bad relationship with egypt. bad relationship with israel. doesn't have a great relationship with the palestinians either. so nobody really trusts him. >> he is tight with snoop dogg. >> nobody trusts him. unlikely that kerry will be able to accomplish anything. >> ukraine's prime minister announcing he is resigning. the news breaking a short time ago as more victims in the malaysian airline crash arrive in the netherlands. intense fighting continues in eastern ukraine where the plane went down. a re moving to this story? okay. australia announced it will send officers to join a united nations effort to secure the crash site, former defense secretary robert gates says he

is worried about america's image in the world. there is perception of the u.s. disengaging from global affairs. a fox news poll, while most voters agree with the president's plan not to get involved in the conflict, 75% think vladmir putin has the upper hand while just 14% think obama does. that is confusing to me, brian. people don't want to us act more but they think vladmir putin has the upper hand. shouldn't we do something about that. >> talking about 17% of the country said do more and 31% thought president doing enough and 34% said he should doal do even less. >> confusing. make sense of it. >> no doubt about it, vladmir putin has upper hand. i'm surprised 14 p% thinks we have upper hand. until sanctions come across. until france cancels a warship order, until we see a move on our side to have massive push when it comes to energy, oil and gas, i don't see any way in which vladmir putin can be

considered anything else by a winner so far. did something horrific that he supervised directly or indirectly. there is no hell pay. reports are he is reinforcing the border with more russian troops. what lesson did he learn. >> disengagement from robert gates. those are harsh criticism from president obama's administration. stems from the impression of disengagement ending withdrawing from wars in afghanistan and iraq, kirsten. >> senator feinstein was also criticizing the president, making similar criticism of him. so i think, i think, i don't know if i agree with the disengaged. i just don't think he has a clear strategy. i think when you sort of go around the world and started looking, someplaces he has been engaged and doesn't really seem to bear any fruit and other places he has been disengaged. i think his foreign policy all over the map of the i don't think it makes people feel particularly safe. the president is really on top of what is going on in the world. >> i don't think it makes anyone

feel safe. i don't think it makes americans feel safe. i don't think it makes our allies feel safe. i certainly don't see any evidence that it makes our enemies respectful or fearful about the united states because you see vladmir putin, to your point, just marching straight ahead because this is about oil. it is about money. it is about securing the economic future of russia. those are his goals and his priorities. he is not a guy that lays awake at night worrying about what other people. >> absolutely not. >> he has a picture of the black sea above his bed. that's where we're going. i'm going to get the oil. lack at evidence. crimea. now ukraine. to your point directly or indirectly involved with gunning down of the plane. >> kimberly we said on very couch here covering breaking news few days ago, president spoke to the nation straight up said putin has most control in the situation. my goodness gracious, samantha power, our ambassador at u.n., russia you have the deal on this

you must end the control. not only do they think they're in controllings we tell them consistently they're in control. >> everything is reaction. everything is reactive. what will dough do about moscow. what do we do about israel? we have two reports ukraine asked us for high-tech equipment to help us with the russian anti-missile batteries coming out. >> denied. >> we ignored it. on the other hand when iraq a year ago or longer said, isis is building up this we'll need help he was ignored again. you had a chance not to be in reactive forum. you had a chance to do some prevention and you walked away. >> halves the problem of american people being schizophrenic. they criticize him but don't want him involved in anything. >> is it that they don't want him involved or he might not know what to do so why would you want him involved. >> to a certain extent the american people disengaged a little bit. >> to your point, brian, robert gates went on to say that he believes the obama administration is too focused on

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they're reviewing them. now you may remember the irs originally claimed the backup tapes didn't exist anymore, poof, because they were recycled. lerner is a woman at the heart of the targeting scandal that singled out conservative groups for extra irs scrutiny. those backup tapes are considered last resort option for recovering her emails. believe it or not, another episode of ripley ace believe it or not. >> i can't believe this is really happening. oops. i was sitting on them! >> that is what happens, harris. this is ridiculous to me. way back in the day i hire ad firm, deloitte and touche to recover deleted files. >> how did it go? >> amazing. they're winners. my point is somebody hire someone to retrieve the deleted nice. i don't believe this is going on at this point. >> look at rollout of healthcare.gov. >> kimberly is probably

digitally challenged but called in for help. we know on record, irs, professional i.t. experts in the irs we need to call in help. the irs ignored it. >> i wish the healthcare.gov people threw up the flag and -- >> do what you think? come on, kirsten. i find you to be a very reasonable person. don't you think this is very suspicious and unto you ward? we have it, we don't. >> how do you scratch a hard drive? >> i don't even know. >> like a d.j., brian. scratch it like this. >> follow katie pavlich on twitter, you need to know twitter feed today there are guys scratching a hard drive. it will make you cry you will laugh so hard. >> congressman lynch i believe is on ways and means. he is a democrat who asks legitimate questions when he was questions. so far in oversight, i haven't seen any democrats say this bothering me. irs is non-partisan group that is really hated just by their job description. >> yeah.

>> so why doesn't someone say i have a real problem with the way you're acting, pompous, cocky way you're doing it. john koskinen is -- >> koskinen. [laughter]. >> he is the guy, he is the guy who said, who should be, hey, called me in to fix this thing. it's a mess. he would have been the good guy in this. this guy could be writing ticket for rest of his life. instead he is more defensive than anybody else about this. he couldn't possibly be implicated because he is brand new. >> i think claire mccaskill came out and criticized him for his arrow against. >> on his tone. >> on his tone, finally. it is strange, we've been watching the hearings, thinking why are the democrats even seeming to defend the irs? >> or just be silent. >> there is no reason to defend this. there is no -- support this kind of behavior. >> what about a special prosecutor? republicans called for special prosecutor. >> with a switch, midterms are coming up. already july. >> can i say one thing they're

really good at. they might be better than the mob at this, it is loyalty. no matter how bad it destroys your reputation, yep, they do talking points. they obfuscate, whatever it takes to keep the party line. >> that is what democrats say about republicans. >> like spartans. i don't know. >> i saw yesterday, because i was moanly i watched most of it. [laughter]. i thought yesterday -- >> you're lonely? >> i'm very lonely. >> only get 10 hours of tv. >> when i'm watching raw feeds in the office, my things to-do list is very light. congressman jordan is on, just on the radio, we don't even have proof they're actually lost emails. >> we have proof that they're not lost emails. >> trying to buy time. >> no proof at all. we're trying, if it wasn't for judicial watch who jammed the system and -- >> look what we're talking about. talking about a bunch of emails instead of what is at heart of this, there were americans, no matter what they believe in they were targeted because of names

in their groups title. >> awful. >> tea party, and some pro-israel groups. >> yeah. >> we need to be talking about that. we need to have investigation into that. i know the emails are important but let's not lose sight what the deal is. >> you're right. we're talking about this now. what about the core issue, right? >> exactly. >> always end up talking about the cover-up but what about the crime itself? the white house still says it is the most transparent administration in history. but apparently they're the only one who is think that. what do you think? a new "fox news poll" reveals something very different. do you tweet when you fly? beware, harris, someone got tossed off a plane because of something he tweeted. >> i'm going to tweet it. >> it is how you tweet. ♪

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three-day fund-raising trip in los angeles today. he spoke to a group of his biggest donors yesterday and offered up some tough love saying, quote, one of the problems with democrats is we're real good on presidential elections. we get real excited but during midterm elections people don't even know there's an election. we have to step it up in the midterms, not when it is easy, not when it is sexy. not when there are hope posters and singing and it is all cute. you have to got to step up. meanwhile a recent "fox news poll" when showing when asked, has the obama administration been competent and effective managing the if he e federal government. 40% said yes, 58% no. >> wow. >> brian, who is the problem here? is it democrats or maybe the president? >> well, i think there is a couple of things of the president really was sayings, a couple of people walked up to him, why isn't nancy pelosi speaker? you didn't show up to get elected. do they need paint by numbers how government works?

no idea, 2010, they didn't have to till 2012. the president is trying to raise money to get interest. i think it is different. as much as he wants to raise money, when you're working for the party, not the country is a problem when you're president and spent a billion dollars to get that job, the problem is, your message cops off extremely partisan and i think it is matter more, we discussed this in the break, kirsten, it is a matter more wanting applause and being around people that worship him. she is celebrities love him. these people in the audience worship him. that is where bounce in his steps. when he goss back to washington, there is no bounce in his step. >> sandra, he has done this before. he goes and he blames the democratic voters for the problems or for not winning elections or, like, isn't the problem that maybe people are unhappy with the leadership? >> including some much hollywood by the way. if you heard jimmy kimmel's jokes last night, best way to get approval ratings up is not coming to l.a. to get three-hour

traffic jams. they're not happy about that. kirsten, we wouldn't talk about the president giving supporters a tough love talk and trying to rally democratic voters if the track record was there. if we're talking about unemployment at 5% right now and home values in this country were spectacular and things, things in the economy were going great and we didn't have these world crises that were mismanaged, we wouldn't be hearing this from the president because he and his fellow democrats would have so much more to run on. this is a lot of cleanup we're seeing right now. >> sandra, you're right, the best thing the president would do for numbers in midterms, sleeves rolled up about outraged about vladmir putin and mean it. outraged what is going on with israeli situation and mean it. call hamas out and really with consequences behind it. all of sudden other guys and other women do their thing in their own district. >> you're right. that would help! that is going to help but the problem i have with him he is

very quick to pull the rip cord out of d.c., go out in the field and fund raise. it feels good. for him like a take me away. people shower praise and love bubbles all over him and cash, who wouldn't like that. but when you're president you have to do the hard work too. and if he was doing the job better there and people around him, with all due respect, the whole team, then it wouldn't be such a hard sell to the rest of the country because his biggest concern, he wants the whole, senate, period. >> you know where we are right now? we're not even, if you're not going forward or moving you're just going backwards. you can't stand still. i looked at housing numbers today and i got sick to my stomach. no. new home sales are going in the wrong direction. this is the season you're supposed to be able to sell your house. >> because they're renting. >> a viewer we have, doesn't like when i say word, optics. roll up the sleeves. the president needs a samuel

jackson moment, i kill them and kill them again! >> wow. >> needs to get angry what is going on. >> "snakes on a plane"? >> yeah. can't even remember. my point is, that sirral of rolling -- vision all rolling up your sleeves. he could attend them on jumbotron. do interviews by tumblr. >> i don't think it works as well. he likes to go out and get fed. >> feels good. >> why would you want to stay in washington where everybody is criticizing him. >> i will need a couch. why am i more upset than the president. >> to your point the vice president was set down to stop america to stop the children from coming in. he sent the vice president for that. can you send the vice president, to seattle, phoenix and los angeles? he is a little busy. something about cheerful. >> you may remember earlier this month, in fact keep it here, the obama administration was

prieding itself on being the most transparent administration in history. looks like they are the only ones that feel that way. in the latest "fox news poll" 6% said, no, this white house is not the most open and transparent. only 28% said it was. leaveleave it to press secretarh earnest to defend the administration on transparency, in case you missed it. here it is. >> i have a responsibility in this job to try to help the president live up to his commitment to be the most transparent president in history. if you look at some of the steps we've already taken. >> i'm surprised you say that line, most transparent president in history. >> absolutely. >> he has been criticized so many times saying that given prosecution of his shill blowers and other steps. you all still stick by that line. >> absolutely. absolutely. >> people are crying for transparency. i don't even like opaque pant at this hose. i like everything transparent. brian. >> calgon, pant at this hose, we'll get sponsors out of this segments.

absolutely, wish she had a buzz phrase or motto i could tap into. he is getting a lot of people ticked off. he is getting press people, supporters or voters his base, they're asking tougher questions, they were left on the tarmac. they are left thousands of yards away from fund-raising events. they were left out of the gene certain men, buzz aldrin meeting, 45 years since poll low 11 or apollo 13. won't give access to celebrating something like legendary astronauts? he is getting people angry at him from all walks of life at this point because he has given up transparent mode i believe. >> kirsten, you worked with the clinton administration. you're familiar with messaging. what message would you tell the president to speak immediately? >> it is not matter of messaging. it is a matter of changing their behavior. it is not what they're saying, it is what they're doing. they don't provide any access to reporters and they, you know, there has been so much criticism. they have been compared worse than the nixon administration by

mainstream reporters. i think -- >> fair criticism? >> i think in terms of the amount of access that they offer, yeah, i think it is fair criticism. mike mccurrie, clinton's press secretary been on the record he would not even think of doing things they do. didn't occur to him could you get away with treating reporters way they do. >> interesting, the president said about the situation in ukraine and when the pro-russian rebels doing untoward things from the bodies of from the plane crash. why are you removing evidence? do you have something to hide? he is questioning transparency. is it fair we would ask this administration, not that the actions are >> that's why we're speculating. lack of transparency leaves too much room for speculation. you can't blame people from speculating when we don't get any answers from the administration. >> not evenly we don't get answers and access.

for instance, where does the president stand now on immigration? where does he stand now on the bergdahl investigation? where does he stand now on lack of sanctions with russia? where does he stand today what is happening with israel in gaza? things kind of stay out there. so just move on because we never get any answers. >> so many other things happening after that, that is the problem. it is one after the next. like -- >> he benefits from the news cycle. >> absolutely. the problem, why do we have to wonder about the question? they're too busy concealing things. when the information comes out, there you go again. so no surprise. there is reason we're reacting like this. there is reason we're inquestionstive and we're distrustful because they have given us every single reason to do so. >> all right. we'll toggle back now to the breaking news we handled at the top of the hour. a commercial flight headed to algeria with 116 people on board disappeared over radar in mali, that is in west africa. officials say it crash-landed or crashed somehow. the latest on search for all the

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♪ >> a minnesota man is very upset about the way his family was treated on a southwest airlines flight after he tweeted about it. duf watson gets priority boarding. he says when he was walking on to a flight from denver to minneapolis over the weekend a bate agent wouldn't let his children, six an nine years owed, board with him. the agent told watson his children would board later. watson tweeted about his service, saying he wrote something like, wow, rudest agent in denver, kimberly at

gait c-39. not happy at swa. that is southwest twitter handle by the way. soon after family was seated they were asked to get off the plane. watson says the agent wouldn't let them board again until he deleted that tweet. threatening to call the police. southwest apologized to him in an email by the way. i'm going to put ising out there. i know you will come after me on this one. but from a business perspective, this company, southwest, it is an airline and has a duty not only protect its staff, the crewmembers, because they're on board to keep those, you know, keep passengers safe they have an obligation to protect the other passengers. didn't he present sort after hostile environment with that tweet? >> i don't think so. saying somebody is rude? he didn't say, i didn't even sense rage or something like that when i could see that. i think this person should be fired, the person who was going to call the police, threatening to call the police, for what? there is no violation of the law, tweeting you're unhappy

about the behavior of -- >> i don't think the law caught up to twitter. >> this is insane. to take a family off of a plane who paid for a ticket? that is terrible. >> one thing, the southwest is one of the the biggest supportef the military. they're unbelievably supporters, they tend for my humble opinion to be nicest. >> they are. >> in this situation, when you're a guy who has two kids -- >> a person. >> a person, if i was to edit this show, if it wasn't life i would say a person, i didn't know, she does correction. i didn't know we were live. i guess there is live thing on the screen. >> we're live. >> if you're, what was i saying? you got to be get on with your kids. you pay a lot to get the priority seating. >> okay. both sides of the argument. here is what southwest had to say. they did issue a response to the tweeting passenger saying, quote, our decision was not based solely on customer's tweet. following a successful resolution the customer and his family were able to continue on the flight to minneapolis.

we are thoroughly investigating the situation. we have reached out to the customer and offered vouchers as a gesture of goodwill. so maybe, harris, this was, just a bad egg? maybe the, flight attendant maybe was just not acting appropriately. >> i agree. i wouldn't disparage the entire airline. they do a lot of wonderful things. i've gone through my phone trying to delete every tweet of complaint. i do tweet a lot. i would say this though. in terms of boarding a flight with two young ones there are lots of rules and laws about who can sit alone and who can't. i would question that agent. what was he or she thinking? you can't split these kids up because they can't sit alone in a seat. when you go the exit row and ask all the questions they have just as many questions for children flying alone. who did she think was going to sit with the kids on board first, separate from him in all sorts of problems. >> this is free speech. come on, really! >> free tweets.

>> free tweets. >> i like it. >> belter you express yourself, because it keep as company healthy to respond to the market and understand, instant feedback from customers. use it as a great business learning tool and stop being crybabies. nobody like as crybaby in the friendly skies. >> southwest is a great airline the reason this bothers me, i felt airlines have gotten so out of control. you have no recourse. now you can't even tweet a complaint? without them coming after you? >> your flight is late. why? don't know. >> or canceled. >> nobody wants, it is a tough business to be in. >> you're captive up there in the cumulus clouds with nowhere else to go unless you want to parachute and that would be awkward, and illegal. >> you've never been angry at an airline, kimberly? there are concerns that a measles outbreak in one state may be spreading. that has health officials on high alert. a live update ahead. remember getting the birs and bees talk, maybe in your early teens? researchers are suggesting that

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. first let's get to jenna lee with what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." hi, jenna. jenna: sandra, another plane crash. you've been talking about. a passengers jet disappears from radar over mali in west africa. over 110 presumed dead. we'll have a live report. two people are dead in virginia after severe weather tore through some parts of the state. another developing story. we're calling it a luxury tower receiving permission to have lower income residents use a separate side door. is this discrimination or wave of the future? we'll ask your legal panel coming up. >> sandra, thank you. >> i may be outnumbered but it is my turn. when is is it too young to talk to your kids about sex? why do i get these topics. it should come at 10 years old. george town, said children 10 to 14 are critical age of

development t will help re-establish healthy self-esteem and reduce pregnancy and disease. are you buying it, harris? >> i think it probably helps. i don't know there is anything magical like age 10 like researchers said they found. kids mature at different ages. i think it should come from parent. some people say, oh, no. it should come from school. i think it should come from parents. >> i learned about it between classes at school. i don't think i learned at school. i can't recall. kirsten, what do you think? >> i'm trying to think back when i learned the information. i went to a public school and i had sex education in fifth grade, which you're 10 years old. so, i think it didn't harm me. i don't know. maybe i'm wrong. >> i remember i saw a film in 8th grade. >> i think you're well-adjusted. i back that up. i can only grow so far. what about you, kimberly. >> sister jean marie. i wanted to become a nun after she became a talk.

>> georgetown study, i didn't think this would be biography. >> yes. well a little row diggs, he never met a lady he didn't like i had a modified talk. he to know quite a lot. he is seven, and he came home talking to me. you have to read between the lines see if children are ready or getting information somewhere else perhaps you maybe need to supplement and, he seems to know where you come from and what goes on and, how do you make them. >> if we leave kimberly long enough she will explain to us how sex works if we let you go. you're getting that close. >> you could learn a lot. [laughter] >> sandra, before we go any further i will name drop. >> okay. >> dr. ruth, used to be on all the time. she says the minute your kid asks about anything to do with sex, that means they are ready. >> oh, wow. >> who are they asking? their parents. they don't want to go talk to their teachers about it. listen, this should be happening at home.

i remember, like you, kirsten, i remember sitting through this. i was so uncomfortable. i wasn't at the stage. it was gross and hard to sit through and embarrassing. if parents get a better read on their children, harris to your., every kid goes through this at different age whether 10 or 16. and parents need to get together. >> here is the fear. the fear is among parents, when you read about something you want to do something. you read about a magazine you want to go travel. all of sudden you hear about sex, let's go try it. >> not the same thing as going to bali. i grew up in a foster home. my mom was a social worker. so we were a family that would usher in children through her work sometimes. my mom always felt, like having honest and open conversation was really important because we were around teenagers not the beneficiaries of solid homes. >> will you do the same thing. >> i will try to. i don't think i will be as good as shirley. she was a rock star. five seconds i knew everything. >> d a whiteboard or

anything. >> no. she didn't need that. cut to the chase. >> no drawings. >> exciting 10 to 12 years. >> brian, should be the dad or the mom? >> i think it goes gender to gender. >> oh. >> i think should be a same sex talk. but i'm ahead of my time. >> that is interesting. >> now finally i said something interesting. what time is it? first interesting comment i made. okay. >> you finally came out with it. >> finally. a little bit early. tell you what is coming up next. if anything could follow this. dazed and confused. what this four-year-old said to get him banned from one doughnut shop. >> my goodness. ♪

so she did not have a muchkin in her belly. a four-year-old was banned after he asked a customer if she was pregnant. the shop said he was rude and she accepted his apology. >> oh, my goodness. i am sorry and i am embarrassed. she said no problem i get it all of the time with the kids in nursery school. >> rosy asked me, after a heavy

day at chipotle. mom, you have a baby in there. kids are innocent and love babies and love to touch pregnant women. adults make this mistake, harris. and you know. >> you have to tell them. >> and it was an honest mistake. >> go back to dunkin doughnuts. >> a four-year-old banned? >> next day. they thought everything was fine. and they go in and one of the worker ares said you can't go in here, your child is rude. >> that is so mean. >> they know about the story and we are talking about the outnumbered cast. >> if that was happening to me my children would get doughnuts. many people are quick to judge.

there is a new world for me, i can imagine the people who kicked that little boy, out of the dough nut shop thought it was a quick judgment and thought it was best for the shop. >> and it is shame on them. nsomeone needs to read the franchise agreement there. >> seriously. the people who own dunn kin do nuts. i would be mad. >> i oner if the woman was more upset than she appeared to be to the couple and if she complained. >> she was not supposed to she's in a marriage and. >>

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