>> i'll pose with you. >> we're back. we're actually back now. >> you're just as pumped up today as you were when you were playing with this band? you will have to wait for that. protest in the west bank with gunfire erupting again. palestini palestinians burning tires in protest of the conflict and secretary of state john carry is pushing for the seize fire. we will talk live with the ambassador on his take. stay tuned. that is moments away. first, there is mystery surrounding the crash of a

passenger jet with more than a hundred on board. the french military is securing the scene of wreckage in northern africa. one black box has been recovered and now the question why did the plane go down. welcome to "america's newsroom." i am bill hemmer. >> good morning, everybody. i am martha maccallum. they are saying essentially that bad weather is believed to be blamed but they cannot rule out the possibility of terrorism. >> amy kellog is live. what do we know? >> reporter: the reason terrorism can't be ruled out is it appears a fire began on the plane before it crashed so the debris needs to be tested for explosives. the plane broke into pieces upon impact. so it didn't explode in the air and there is no indication it was shot down so for those

reasons investigators are tending toward the theory of bad weather but nothing can be ruled out at this point. the plane was an air algeria flight to algeria. it was travelling when asked to changing course due to bad weather and disappeared in the morning hours over molly that is an area that is populated by islamic militants. it was a drone that spotted the plane after a tip bomb the burkina faso. the french didn't confirm until this morning because they wanted to make sure it was the wreckage and they revised the number to 118 from 116. >> thank you for leading the coverage on that. and new video backing up

claims that russia is firing artillery into the ukraine from its own territory. this amateur video was shot on the 16th of july and shows the attack coming from a russian border town on the other side. this is a new development in terms of where it is generating from. steve crane is live. the state department has prove of heavy artillery firing into the ukraine from inside the lines of russia. >> martha, this is a new development. on multiple occasions during the fourth month rebellion the ukrainian government has made the charge that the russian military has been firing within the military force and now something different. it is u.s. officials making that

charge. >> we have evidence the russian is delivering more powerful rocket launches to the separatist in ukraine and they are firing artillery to attack ukrainian military positions. >> no further details on what that intelligence is. u.s. officials saying it is human intelligence but not going any further. >> that remains to be seen. it is a big development as you say. any progress in the malaysia airline crash in terms of the investigation and where those were fired from? >> there is no signs of progress on the ground. it is a quite scene. all of the security has been taken away. but there are some european investigators on the scene still finding body parts but the investigators are stuck long the way. the dutch, who are supposed to be in the lead, haven't made it to the crash sight.

dutch police are being talked about securing the scene but those are just plans and the scene is lying naked with body parts still being discovered today. >> awful situation. to the white house where it is realizing it has been a tough week for the president and calling in veterans of the clinton white house for advice. ed henry reporting that josh earnest called the meeting and chris sty wall is here. who is coming in and what does it mean, chris? >> they brought in josh ernest who is new on the job and didn't have a great launch getting busted over using anonymous briefers. and veterans of the clinton team

particularly mike mccurry about how to talk to reporters and it was a nice, maybe symbolic, but perhaps helpful moment. >> the president talks about getting the message out there. is he blaming someone for not getting it out there or blaming himself? >> no matter how good the communication department for the titanic was it still would have sink. and i think this president is unwilling to criticize or talk about how to deal with his policies differently. they have been struggling with obamacare, the economy, deficit, and debt for a long time. and foreign policy was a strong point and issues related to

border and immigration and now they have gone upside down in those places and it has to do with people disapproving of the president's policy. we are just not communicating the story the right way, when you say that, you foreclose the idea of making a policy change in order to connect. >> this is what white houses do. they defend the policy and insist the message isn't being received. it is the policy or the message when you look at polling and how americans are reacting to these big issues. >> all administration do exactly what you are describing including team clinton. but team clinton dramatically changed policies in order to favor the electorate.

the clinton white house knew how to find positions that were appealing to moderate voters, steal issues from the republicans and get back on the page. this administration refuses to engage on policy points but instead talks differently and people are tuning it out because it doesn't matter what you say as long as you don't change what you doing. >> thank you, chris. martha at nine minutes past. the obamacare fines that were promised are now on the way. it could cost you almost $2500 if you don't sign up and more than four times that if you have a family at home. and remember the court now says many people might not get the subsidy they were expecting.

>> and secretary of state john kerry has a new idea to bring peace to the middle east. >> the president headed west this week but should he have been home watching over the crisis? or does it matter to him? >> whether it is fair or not that is public opinion and i further don't think he much cares about his poll numbers or these things. these things.

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the u.s. is pushing for a seize fire with the conflict between israel and gaza. secretary john kerry is calling for a seize fire so they can talk about issues. our guest is here and good morning to you. first on the possibility of a seize fire overnight. a seven-day pause. will that happen? >> i don't think. i know the secretary is working hard to get people line up behind the egyptian proposal. israel agreed ten accept the seize fire proposal the egyptian put forward and

accepted by the arab league but hamas said no and continues to fire rockets. they are firing about a hundred rockets every day and we have 2/3rds of our population running for bombshellters. the prime minister says the goal of the operation is sustained quite for the people of israeli and we want to achieve that militarily or diplomatically. israel has also accepted all of the seize fire proposals. not just the egyptian one. there was a u.n.one we accepted. there was another proposal by the red cross and we accepted it. every time there has been a seize fire israel steps forward. >> so if that is the case you

will go with this one? >> i don't know if there is a specific new proposal being offered. but if past is prologued you can be certain israel will do what week to de-escalate the situation but hamas keeps escalated. >> there is a debate on if john kerry is being helpful and wanted. is he helping? >> yes, he is helping and we appreciate his efforts and the strong statements he and the president had made for israel to protect itself. they are made throughout the world with many prime ministers backing israel's right to defend itself. you cannot live with a situation where 2/3rds of the country has to run to bomb shelters 3-5 times a day.

>> 16 dead on the school hit yesterday and israel said hamas uses the schools as a shield. does israel believe this was one of the shields? >> i don't know the specifics. let me make a correction. israel doesn't say that. the u.n.schools admitted that two of their schools were used as weapon depots. the secretary general of the un two days ago said it was outrageous the schools were being used and it puts civilians and innocent people in harm's way. israel provided a window to e c evacuate people from 10-2 and unfortunately they didn't take it. i don't know if our troops were fired at or the school was hit by a hamas rocket. we have had over 2,000 rockets

fired at israel and they end up landing in gaza. this school might have been hit by their own fire. >> based on reports you are right about that. warnings going back to the school on monday of this week so that takes us back four days. did they think hamas was retreating there and that was why it was a target? >> i don't know. our soldiers are fighting in dense, urban areas. so i don't know if a tank was fired at israeli soldiers. i don't know. i don't know the facts but we will get the facts. and everybody who is judging israel just like they did in the past we will prove they are all false. the ones responsible for the death of innocent civilians in gaza are only hamas for using their civilians as human shields.

turning mosques into weapon depots and placing rockets into schools. this is sick and the world should be outraged but not against israel for defending itself but hamas for putting their people in harms way. >> topic three. the planes not being allowed to fly over israel. the leader came out and declared victory over the hamas air space. what did you you think about the decision? >> official were helpful trying to get the faa ban changed. a rocket fell within a mile radius of ben green airport which is one of the safest airports in the world, if not the safest. we put a lot of effort into insuring safety. a rocket fell a mile from the

perimeter and that set off alarm bells in the faa and suspended things for 24 hours. i was immediately in touch with the administration officials who put our professionals in touch with their professionals and there was hope the ban would be removed within 24 hours but it ended up being 36. >> you are saying it is safe? >> the airport is safe. >> and i understand the point you are making and the aircraft carriers continue to go in there carrying people from all over the world including the united states. >> and let me also thank mayor bloomberg because he got on a commercial plane. it is safe to fly to israel. >> with regard to the current administration, how are they dealing with the israeli prime

minister? how would you characterize the relationship? >> i think it is very good. i think the president backed israeli's right to defend itself. i saw the support we were getting from the obama administration and the support of the administration has been very good. we appreciate both their backing of our right to defend ourselves and the strong backing for iron dome. we have asked the administration for additional funding for iron dome and they backed it right away. we are pleased with the support from the president and the secretary. >> thank you, mr. ambassador. martha? is the super power magnet shifting to this man? to vladimer putin? does president putin have the upper hand as the west stands idle? >> a tornado ripping through this camp ground with little

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police in new york are looking for five men they thank you scaled the brooklyn bridge and replaced the flags. residents woke up to white flags blowing. they have nicknames of the suspects and dna found. and a $5,000 reward is being

offered by one resident in brooklyn. the irs releasing figures for the obamacare fines that are about to start coming. if you haven't bought your coverage this is what you are looking at. $2,048. and families with four or more members could be looking at $12,000 if they haven't signed up. there is a lot of growing confusion because the subsidies that the court laid out decisions on may mean you don't get a tax credit or subsidy if you are in a state without an exchange. stuart varney is here. we are talked about the fines for a long time and now things will be arriving in the mail. >> we got the firm dollar number

about the maximum fine you could pay. it is a very big number and you could say scary. 2400 for individual and 12,000 for a family of five. there is a deal of confusion about who pays it, when and how it will be paid. let's list the areas of confusion. number one, there is confusion over who is covered. a lot of people in limbo. number two, there is confusion over the future subsidies because of the court rulings. if you don't get the subsidy can you afford health care? if you can't afford it, you don't get it and pay the fine. the fine, if levied is supposed to be paid out of tax refund. suppose you don't get a tax refund? you still pay the fine? and there is growing anger because the irs is policing the fines and obamacare and they

don't exactly have a great reputation at the moment. you add it up. you have chaos, on fusion, resentiment a resentiment. >> some people may have to pay out and it will be laughable because the government said we don't have a way to verify income. so if you can't verify how much someone is making how do you know if they are below or above the numbers and people don't know if they are getting subsidies. it would be shocking if after all of the mistakes in the plan is the one thing they get right is sending the fines. >> i agree with you. i think if we walked on to the streets in new york and said do you understand the situation with obamacare, are you covered,

how much are you covered, i don't think you can find 1-100 with a firm answer. >> people say it all of the time. i don't get it. i don't know what i am supposed to do. you might get fines. >> my last words are this: it is a mess, martha. >> that is your parting thoughts. we will have t-shirts made up next time. >> you want that on your tom stone? >> it is a mess. a shooter going on a rampage at a hospital and a doctor uses his own gun to stop the violence. >> the critics say the president is physically and emotionally withdrawn from the events unfolding on the world stage in ukraine, syria, and iraq. critics asking where is our

president? we will have a fair and balance blansed debate on this huge issue. >> i think there is a general perception the world has gone to hell and the president is out there playing golf. there is a disconnect. in the nation, it's not always pretty. add brand new belongings from nationwide insurance... ...and we'll replace destroyed or stolen items with brand-new versions. we put members first. join the nation. ♪ nationwide is on your side ♪

9:32 in new york. the crisis on the border is front and center today. president obama is meeting with the central american leaders. will they find a way to end the flood of tens of thousands of illegal minors crossing our southern borders? congress has one more week to address a law to pass that before the summer recess. president obama is home now but getting major flack for heading to the west coast earlier this week for a bunch of fundraisers. he made the party quite a bit of money. he said he can take on crisis wherever he is. the white house has said the

office travels with the president. but crad hammer says he thinks he checked out on the world. >> there is a general perception the world has gone to hell and the president is out there playing golf. it doesn't mean people want to go to war in ukraine so i am not at all surprised people don't want to be involved. you have a president who is not going out there and making the case for it. why would anyone get involved? >> juan williams and mary catherine -- mary katharine is here. charles says the jobs of the leader is to shorten that ark

and be an active participant in the process and influence world events. what do you say to this? >> there is a ton of partisanship exposed here and i think the idea is that somehow because the president goes off with fundraising or playing golf he is not engaged in the world or detached from major events that are shaping the world. and that is why we have the perception of the world going to hell. >> juan, are you okay -- it is almost like he is responding -- everyone on the streets says what is going on in the world and people are unsettled and the president isn't reflecting that in his own demeanor? >> you are talking about demeanor. what i look at is reality and what he is doing. if i look at what he is doing in ukraine in terms of helping the

ukrainians and putting sanctions in place and rallying the europeans to act with urgency i say he is engaged. if i look at the middle east and the peace talk attempts between the israelis and palestinian but you cannot say it didn't work. i look at syria and iran and negotiations are iran are ongoing. >> the president stood at the podium a month ago and said were sending millions to help the rebels who were the good guys. i haven't heard about that. let's listen to this. >> whether it is fair or not that is public opinion. and i don't think he much cares. >> i agree with you. >> i don't think he cares about his poll numbers. >> he doesn't seem to. he is fundraising again. >> they said he doesn't care what people think. >> i think that is part of it.

to juan's point this isn't just about him golfing here being else where. yes, he can be briefed on things while he is doing that. but the question is when you have planes, civilian airliners coming down and he has three things, the burger outing and the speech in delaware and the fundraisers -- he didn't take a vote and adjust histone so normal citizens were saying what is happening. it is more than an optics issue. it is about people saying how is he reacting to this and the other thing i think charles is talking about and it will not surprise be but i think what he is getting at is there is a disconnect between president

obama declaring something should happen and the path to finding a way to make it happen. that has been the case always whether it is health care or these sticky issues around the world and juan's examples of the palestinian-israeli discussions, the iran's discussion, syria where they thought they wanted to go to war for three weeks and botched pitching that, i think those are examples of him not knowing how to walk a path and convince people. and i don't think he is convincing europe now and that is the disconnect. >> juan, there is two things here as mary katharine lays it out. there is the action. and you believe the president is taking these actions. how do you think that is going? >> obviously, if you look at what is going on in the middle east, they are not ready to make a deal and we cannot force them.

in ukraine, we had great reactions in the elections. in terms of rallying european opinion against the russians, the problem is the europeans look like feckless and weak in the knees and afraid of their own economic consequences whether than seeing the threat that putin poses. there was a fox news poll saying 60% of americans don't want us to be further engaged in the ukraine. >> none the less, juan, there is a job to being president of the united states and that is trying to use the power of the united states to influence for the best outcome for the united states the events happening on the ground and that is not the signal being sent. whether you can work on the road is one thing but the outward impression that people have when

you watch the president reacting to this. >> you are coming back to impressions, demeanor, optics -- >> doesn't that matter? how much the president cares? >> i think it is what it is now is ammunition for people that never liked him, don't like him, and wish he had never been elected. >> it is strawman to say this has to be about boots on the ground or military intervention and that is what the is president uses to get rid of the critics. what is required from the president is proactivity where you could have convinced putin if you were more clear about what you were saying that he should not have proxies shooting at suzil -- civilian airliners.

>> i think it is the president's job to say where we stand, his vision for the where the world needs to be and we have not heard a lot of that from the president and perhaps that would be helpful. >> i agree with you on that point. >> thank you, juan and mary katharine. i knew you would get it out of him eventually. well done, juan. a deadly tornado ripping through a camp ground on virginia's eastern show. rv's flipped like toys. two people killed, dozens injured, the virginia governor is going there today as the camper near the chesapeake bay had very little warning. >> everything was down. i didn't realize that campers flip until i went down my road and you just saw them. it was horrible. i felt so bad for those people. >> i just called my sons because i was so scared. i thought i was calm but i am

not calm now. it was scary to see people lose camers -- campers and lives. >> we have live from the weather center. what is next? >> i want to show you the radar picture yesterday this happened between 8:30-9:00 eastern time. the storm moved on shore and within a couple minutes that storm system is already gone and that is around the time we started to receive report of damage of injuries and just stab stating in cherry stone in east virginia. there is a chance of isolated weather with storms that could produce gusty winds and isolated hail in the southeast and midwest. but organized severe weather risk isn't expected today but

tomorrow we have a storm system across the midwest from missouri to indiana and interior portions in the northeast could produce storms that could bring down tornados. it is an isolated risk but we are looking at a chance tomorrow across the midwest were the storms. we'll be in contact. and vladimer putin fueling a second cold war. kt mcfarland is here with thoughts on that. >> meet the man who put a stop to this wild chase. >> there wasn't a lot of thought involved. it was reaction. i drow drew down and got my weapon pointed at him.

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a deputy who brought a wild police chase to an end is speaking out.

armed guy, carjacking suspect, went out on the busy highway and ran into fred hagget who brought him down. >> i was just reacting to the circumstances. if he had done anything other than he did it would have been shots fired. >> he has a long wrap sheet and he is being held on $1 billion bond. they say he created six different crime scenes during the get away so he has a long wrap sheet. 25 years ago this fall the berlin wall came down and the cold war declared over. many are wondering if it is back? time magazine calling it cold war two. the former cia director says we are getting close to that. >> it is an arguable that the

russian federation has decided to use its armed forces to overturn the post-cold war security architecture in europe. that is a big deal. >> kt mcfarland, national security analyst and former deputy assistance of secretary defense for ronald reagan. good morning to you. we are in a new cold war, you say, but it took a long time for folks to realize it, including you. >> putin has been trying to do this for 20 years. i thought it was because they wanted russian support or secure borders but i think it is more than that. they want revenge. he wants to bring down nato and show the united states to no longer be a super power. >> when we ask the question are we there yet you are saying yes

and how does the united states respond when we know europe is weak in the knees? >> we won the first time around by targeting the russian economy and repairing the relationship with europeans who don't want to lead and stand up to the russians or soviet union. the french are selling warships to the russian and we can buy them for a billion and a half. or the germans saying we have our trade, we need their russian natural gas, if we accelerating our own production we could accelerate them. >> you are saying we are playing a lousy hand with terrific cards. >> putin is running on fumes. why is the russian economy doing well? because of the price of oil and

natural gas. what have the russian not done since the first cold war was one? they haven't developed their economy. the only thing they have is oil and natural gas. natural gas gives them political blackmail and oil gives them revenue. if you push down oil to $80-$90 a barrel they don't make payroll. >> here is hilary clinton on npr about the whole russian reset deal from 2009. >> the reset worked. it was an effort to try to obtain russian cooperation on key objectives while met was president and putin still pulled the strings but he gave the president is certain amount of leeway to negotiate. >> nice try, secretary clinton.

but it didn't work because the russians are the one enabling iran's nuclear program. what do you have now? the supreme leader of iran who speaks to god says we don't have enough enrichment facilities now. >> that will by the way will come up if she runs for the white house. march 2009, the reset, spelled wrong and used the wrong word. here is martha with more. a frightening shooting broke out at a hospital ended only when a doctor took a gun and returned fire. that incident is turning a gun control argument on its head.

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how about this story? a shootout at a pennsylvania center leaves one person dead and two others wounded. a patient shot and killed the case worker who came with him to the security and his doctor pulled out his own gun and shot the patient. what a seen of tragedy this was. johnathan hunt is downstairs in the newsroom. how did this happen? >> the patient-turned shooter richard plots met the case worker to attend an appointment in that doctor's office. workers nearby heard the

arguing, one opened the door and saw him pointing a gun and that worker shot the door and called the cops. before the police arrived, shots were fired, the case worker was shot in the face and killed and a bullet grazed the doctor's head. he pulled his own gun and shot him in the torso and arm. and two coworkers busted into the office and held him down and took away the weapon. >> any time you have an incident like this it is horendious. we train for an active shooter but hope we never have to use it. >> the man is in the hospital critical but stable. the doctor's injuries were not serious. >> any charges likely against the doctor? >> at this stage neither the

cops or da believe that is likely. i just got off the phone with the police chief who hailed dr. silverman and said he was a hero and believes he was acting in self defense. the doctor didn't need a permit to have the gun in his office but would have needed if he was transporting it in public. the hospital has a policy of not allowing anyone to carry a gun anywhere on their property so there is the possibility of administration action against the doctor from the hospital. but the chief seemed convinced telling me without a doubt he believes the doctor saved lives. >> a great example of what can happen if someone has a gun and can stop the shooting in cases like that's. it will fuel the entire gun

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martha: all right. everybody, we are back and we have a fox news alert for you because we just received the first video of the plane wreckage from the air algerie crash site in northern mali. we're getting word that french soldiers did located black box at the scene of this horrible crash that took the lives of over 100 people. officials are not at this point, because they're beginning the investigation ruling out terrorism. as you heard from amy kellogg, there were reports of a fire started on the plane but they say the plane broke apart on impact. weather was also a factor yesterday. in that crash 116 people were killed. it was own rout from burkina faso to algeria. france is sending that team to continue to investigate what

happened. back to this big story for us once again today as hamas is firing more rockets at tel aviv, as israeli aircraft strike dozens of targets in the gaza strip. the obama administration delivering a new proposal for a temporary cease-fire. so will they get anywhere with that? welcome everybody to a brand new hour of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. good morning. intense battles underway between israeli ground troops and am hamas gunmen. israel military hits 45 sites in gaza as washington pushes for a possible week-long cease-fire. israel's top u.s. diplomat telling us last hour, making the case that hamas is using civilians as heem shields in gaza. >> the ones who are responsible for the death of innocent civilians in gaza are only hamas for using their civilians as human shields. by making military command centers in hospitals, by turning mosques into weapons depots and

placing rockets in u.n. schools. this is sick, and grotesque and the world should be outraged. the outrage should not be against israel for defending itself but for hamas placeplacing their own civilians in harm's way. martha: bret baier, anchor of "special report." good morning to you. what is the latest on the potential of a week-long truce they're trying to broker right now? >> we're expecting secretary kerry come out in hour 1/2 to kind of lay this out. he has been told by the state department in round-the-clock negotiations and talks with prime minister netanyahu and representatives from qatar and turkey. they are as we know go-betweens with hamas. the hope is you start with this one week cease-fire and then that leads to negotiations on a broader scale, that takes it beyond that. the big issue here is whether hamas will agree to be disarmed in gaza. and, whether israel can belief

that those rockets will stop. remember, that israel did sign on to another cease-fire about a week 1/2 ago, that was not answered. martha: i mean clearly hamas has been the side of this equation that has not felt any kind of truce is to their benefit in any of this. i mean, you know, bill asked the ambassador, the israeli ambassador a little while ago, if he felt that the united states had been instrumental so far in this process. john kerry, he said absolutely. he believes that the u.s. is playing a pivotal role perhaps in all of this. is that, you know, according to the reporting that we have in washington, is that the feeling on the ground, that we are making any difference and having an impact in this? >> yeah. i mean listen, there is, both sides of the aisle acknowledge that secretary kerry hustles and he talks to a lot of people. whether they're making headway, to hear the israeli ambassador say that you sense that they are. we'll see what happens with the

development today and the cease-fire. i think a lynchpin has been these countries of qatar and turkey which have not been very helpful in getting this cease-fire going forward. they are supporters of hamas and, as you know, hamas is listed as a terrorist organization. martha: you know, the other huge issue here is the sort of perception of israel in the world and whether or not the u.s. has done everything it could to prevent israel's case as one of our strongest allies. you know, we heard from the ambassador talking about how the u.n. has said that hamas is putting these rockets in u.n. schools and places like that, creating human shields of their own children in this country. you know, do you think, what about that? what about how well we have stood up for our ally in this situation given the troublesome backdrop of the netanyahu obama relationship in the past? >> i mean publicly the administration has kind of been on the line, that israel has the

right to defend itself and that it should do so, but as also called for restraint. so they have kind of been walking the line on their public statements out of the white house and administration. that said, as more and more images of, you know, children and the dead on the ground in gaza circulate, no matter if they're shields or not, the images are out there and they have an effect and the israelis acknowledge that as well. martha: indeed they do. bret, thank you very much. we'll see you tonight. bill: no sign the fighting is letting up. israeli air force hitting dozens of targets inside gaza, killing a terrorist leader from hamas and hamas continues to fire rockets in return at israel. john huddy live at border today. john what are you seeing so far. >> reporter: we're seeing rockets intercepted throughout the day, bill. we're seeing mortar fire from

israeli forces at gaza close to our location. you have seen and heard airstrikes, and there is artillery blast, possibly heavy artillery or cannon fire, not sure which. as fighting continues overnight. there was a great deal of fighting in northern gaza and southern gaza as well as air strikes continued on hamas militant locations, going as you mentioned after hamas commanders and islamic jihad in gaza. ground troops continue on the border. we hear fire in the background, they continue to try to root out hamas's network, extensive network of tunnels some which lead into israel. we've seen hamas ambush israeli soldiers in 18th day of operation protective edge. the cease-fire talks continue we expect to hear from secretary of state john kerry later about the continued talks and in particular the possibility of a

week-long cease-fire to start on sunday. we're waiting for more updates on that, bill, as really pressure continues to mount for some kind of a resolution to all the fighting, bill. bill: john, thank you. john huddy between the border and israel and gaza. martha: past couple weeks there are new developments today in the border crisis. the administration is now considering refugee status for hundreds of honduran children while they're still at home in their country, something that the white house officials believe could be done without congressional approval. senior white house correspondent wendell goler joins us live. wendell, what is the logic behind this potential program? >> reporter: martha, president obama is under pressure is under pressure from the presidents of honduras, guatemala and el salavador who blame america's appetite for illegal drugs for fueling cartels and street gangs the kids are running from. aides say one of the things being considered letting a limited number of honduran young

people apply for refugee status so they don't endure the abuse of coyotes they are enduring to get to the u.s.-mexico border. the kids are abused and often raped and dumped on america's doorstep. if they got visas and could travel legally and presumably safely by bus or train. officials say there are ways to make a decision. they stress the plan may not pan out. it will certainly drawn criticism since it will be done by executive order. officials say past presidents acted on their own, own authority when faced with a crisis in haiti for example. martha? martha: wendell, thank you very much. a lot of discussion what a refugee is. and that definition we'll talk about that a bit more coming up in the show. thank you, wendell. bill: negotiations over a bill to reform the department of veterans affairs hitting a brick wall. democrats across republicans dragging their feet. house speaker john boehner

firing right back. >> bipartisan, bicameral negotiations were making good progress until the white house began demanding more money with no accountability and no strings attached. i will be clear, there will be no blank check for the president and his allies. some in washington may view every new crisis as opportunity to deman more taxpayer dollars but the american people don't see it that way. they want solutions. bill: house and senate lawmakers trying to hammer out a bill before they go on a five-week recess, that starts next week. martha: so the white house pointing the finger at kremlin as russian artillery reporting pounding targets in the ukraine and these images show it coming from other side, inside of russia. this is a big deal. is there anything the united states can do to quell the russian aggression? bill: president obama saying the economy is doing far better now compared to when he took office in january 2009. do you feel the same?

we'll show you the latest numbers on that. martha: a real story for you right now. a not so special delivery. some families a bit creeped out when these mysterious porcelain dolls showed up on their doorstep looking like their own small children. what the police discovered the case of the whacky weird dolls. ♪but this... ♪takes my breath away

bill: ohio state university dealing with a sex scandal rocking its famous marching

band, one of the most celebrated in the world. the school firing the band's director after an investigation find he knew about and then ignored what is being called a sexualized culture of riddals. rid always. that is great band. the band director has been there for years. allegations students were forced to march in their underwear. martha: what? bill: heavens forbid. jonathan waters led the band since 2012. his halftime shows drawn millions of viewers on youtube. he does great work. he denies all the allegations but that is all they're talking about there. martha: all right, so the ukraine is reporting that there are new attacks along the russian border and u.s. is pointing the finger at moscow directly. the obama administration is blasting russia orfor escalating the violence. amateur video shows russian

artillery at the border but inside the russian border. that is key to the discussion. we can not independently confirm that. the statement department said, said it in her briefing that russia plans to give rebels a boost by sending deadlier weapons and heavier and more powerful rocket launchers. this is ratcheting up to say the very least. former u.s. navy captain chuck nash is a fox news military analyst and he joins me now. captain, good to see you this morning. what do you make of this new development coming from inside of russia? >> i think the russians dropped any pretense this is a local homegrown dissatisfaction in eastern ukraine about separating. this is essentially a new way of taking over a part of a country. you just move your special operations forces in. you foment rebellion, and then you support them from right across the border. now with multiple ways of verifying that, we're seeing that this is occurring and we no longer have to take the russian's word forfeit we ever

did. martha: when you look back, the thinking was that we would send mres, essentially, on german trucks. >> yes. martha: that would be how we would help the ukrainian people because, you know, it was just internal strife and wasn't really our problem. russia although they would like to see outcome go a certain way wasn't directly involved. there is really no pretense of believing that anymore, is there? >> no and mr. putin has seen our reaction to his initial foray and realized he has got an open field. so all he has to do is meter this how he wants it because he knows europe is paralyzed because of energy dependence on russia. the united states has shown nothing but weakness. we've been withdrawing from the world's stage for the last six years. so, he sees he has an open field to run and he is running this in russia's best interests as we would expect him to do, given the opportunity that he has been presented. martha: all right. so, you know, i mean the cat's

out of the bag in a very big way here. >> yeah. martha: if you were advising the president militarily, what would you advise? how do you quell this or stop it or slow it down? >> well there is some military things that need to be done but first and foremost you need the political will to do them and that's part of the problem. looking a the president's poll numbers he does not have the confidence of american people right now especially in foreign policy issues. it would be very difficult for him to do what i am about to suggest. what i am about to suggest is, first off, he needs to get on national television, ask for time and talk to the american people to explain the dangers, we've seen this movie before. it is called world war ii. what happened was, hitler, went in, nobody stopped him for years after the war, they said why didn't you stop him then when he went into the sudat land, it was hard. it guess what, will only get harder from here too. he needs to explain that. we need to reopen the

negotiations with the czech republic and polls hosting the missile shield. we need to stop any withdrawal others out efforts out of europe and rebuild defenses with european countries that want to do so, fine, you're out of the fold and work with country who is do want to defend themselves. this only going to get worse, martha. if we don't do it, and i'm not saying ratchet it up slowly, sequentially. no, no. you need to be powerful and need to push back right now. if he does, if we don't, if we just meter this out, he will counter foray with all that so, or parry i should say. he will work that around and continue to frustrate us. martha: captain nash, thank you very much. >> you bet, martha. >> 18 past now. are democrats playing a game of chicken with middle east peace and israel's ability to defend itself? why emergency funding for the iron dome missile defense system could be dead on arrival in the u.s. senate.

we'll look at that. martha: plus a bizarre adventure in the outfield making big leagues look like little league. we'll show what you we mean. we'll be right back. ♪

martha: here is video of the day, folks. current leader of the tour de france coming shoulder to shoulder with oblivious fan on her cell phone. oh. you have to be careful when you're leading the race. martha: what happens when you're in bikini talking on cell phone in the middle of tour de france. that is when he cut into a curve and bumped her elbow. she is picking up the phone.

he remains fine. he is picking up on track to overall race. put the phones down. bill: he gave her the elbow. martha: good for him. hanging out in the middle of tour de france talking on her -- bill: i thought it was kind of low. martha: in the middle of the course, hanging out in the middle of the course. she needs to be nudged and pushed back off the course. no. totally disagree. bill: right by there. not made "america's newsroom." martha: no. i think it was well-done. bill: right on. there is a debate elsewhere over a funding bill that could have a direct impact on israel's ability to defend itself? money for israel's iron dome missile defense system could end up dieing in the u.s. senate after democrats attach it to the president's immigration prann? -- plan? leland vittert with the story. what is going on, leland. >> reporter: they say all politics is local and a case

where republicans say politics is affecting foreign policy. for the past few weeks we've been talking about iron dome, the israel rocket defense system that intercepted a vast majority of hamas rockets and saved countless lives in israel. essentially a joint israel project with the u.s. providing a lot of the funding this is video of iron dome working. those interceptor missiles that go off cost tens of thousands of dollars a pop. israel used a lot of them in the conflict with hamas. they asked u.s. for $200 million in emergency funding to make and buy more interceptors. in the senate, they tied funding to the controversial border bill. >> border bill that harry reid teed up is designed to be voted down. he knows it will be voted down. they attached iron dome funding to it because they want to play partisan politics, pretend republicans will not solve a border bill that will not solve the problem are opposed to

funding for iron dome. >> reporter: now democratic senator who made the move, senator barbara mikulski of maryland. gave impression passioned speech on senate floor need for iron dome and funding. we asked her interview or statement. ask very simple question, if fund something so important to defend ally why tie to it controversial bill. she refused interview. the spokesman said saw fitting tie funding of number of emergencies including wildfires together. mean israel keeps using up supply of very expensive interceptor rockets. bill: we'll watch that debate. leland vittert live in washington that. martha. martha: here is question always gets asked around election time, are you satisfied with the current direction of economy. president obama says he has the country back on track now. do you agree with that? results of latest "fox news poll" coming up. bill: the all-american tradition doesn't get any better than that.

martha: this awesome. bill: dream of winning the big soapbox derby in akron. martha: take the pink one. color of my dress. bill: i will take the blue one. we'll see who wins. martha: professional-looking. bill: we're going to akron today. martha: wow.

martha: we are back. we're just getting a first look at brand new video come in from the wreckage site from the algeri crash that happened in northern mali. ithappened on its way to burkina faso. they found the black box in this crash. questions whether weather brought the plane down or something nor nefarious. it went down in a area where al qaeda is known to be in northern mali. as we get more information, we'll bring to you. bill: 10:30 now, and president obama is saying america is

better off than it was when he was elected in 2009. according to "fox news poll," not many americans share that view. majority, 60% are not satisfied with the direction of the country and only 40% say things are okay. despite the widespread unease, president obama said in televised interview just yesterday, that the economic numbers back up his rosy outlook. listen. >> i'm always bullish about america over the long term. and if you think about where we were, steve, when i came into office and where we are now, it is pretty hard to find an economic measure we're not significantly better off. bill: so that answer was met with a little disapproval. we'll talk about this, byron rork, chief political correspondent, fox news contributor. melissa francis host of "money" with melissa francis on the fox business network. >> i love that. bill: good morning to you. byron, start with you. let's start with money. that answer was followed up by a question that said what?

>> yeah, no, steve liesman is liberal as he is was going to hold the president's feet to the fire, say, tell you one measure, median income. if you look at median household income that has fallen since the president has been in office by almost 6%. that is the money that regular folks are making out there. you can't say they're better by that standard. the president pointed to the stock market i for one to see him finally take credit for run-up in the stock market because that has enriched top 1%. he is right. policies out of the washington and federal reserve ginned up the stock market. that only made those lucky enough to be in the market make more money. only helped 1%. the income gap is wider. bill: to your point, look at screen on bottom line, what are you 56,000? you're down to 53,000, from may 2014. >> right. bill: you're off six percentage points since january 2009. however, you have got the slowest recovery in history, don't you? >> absolutely. bill: that's what you're dealing

with. that is reflected in the polling. do you see any signs economy started to turn the corner? 55% say no. >> no. people who had jobs. they had full-time jobs. now they have part-time jobs. look at wage growth. it has been completely stagnant. everybody as home knows that. the money you're making now if you're lucky enough to have a job, is less than what you were making before the president came into office. he knows that and data supports it. bill: they don't feel net worth is growing. especially middle class. >> only, divide only gotten wider. bill: politics of his economic message, to byron, to you on that. the message was what? why is he talking about this now and well, trying to make a case? did he do it? >> the president did that interview after a series of fund-raisers and this is classic obama fund-raiser talk. if you listen to him at these events he always talks about how bad things were when he took office. how much better they are today but all the good things done but

still work left to do. that is classic obama fund-raiser talk. he is trying to do that, if you remember that was kind of theme of his 2012 campaign with 2004 elections coming up, he is trying to say the same thing of the problem it is hard to talk up the economy because people know their own economic situations. and, you know, you could add to what you were just discussing with melissa, unemployment rate which has gone down while the president has been in office. we know a significant part of that is because so many discouraged workers, unemployed, have quit looking for work all together. they know their situation and that 55% number that you gave, that people who have seen no signs that the economy turn ad corner. that is a huge number for the president and democrats. bill: they don't believe message is case you're making, byron? >> no. people don't believe message. they have their own experience to judge by. you can say about any particular thing, other people are suffering. this or that has happened to them. but when you're talking about the economy, people know they're

their own situation. are they feeling more confident than they felt a few years ago? has their household income gone up? melissa is completely right. it has been going down. they know their own situation. >> no, absolutely. it is about the numbers. it is not about opinion. it is not about politics. if you look at numbers out of the government, median income has fallen. wages are stagnant. that is real money people take home. it is worth, only thing better is stock market and 1% and wealthy people lucky enough to own stocks and market, they are better off as a result of the administration. bill: a lot of criticism from him yesterday was about the american companies taking their act overseas and taking advantage of the american market and getting a better tax deal in return. >> money goes where money is treated best. bill: always will. like water in a pond. will always go somewhere. corporate tax rates, was that suggested at all. >> there was talk about corporate tax rates and overhaul tax code in general. that is one of those red

herrings thrown out there. there are proposals brought by republicans on table. it has never been discussed and taken seriously. that was never taken up and would be shocked if it got traction here in washington. bill: do that point, byron, do you see this getting any traction now? >> no, i just don't. we should say, that the increase in the stock market is real. it restored some wealth for a lot of people. but if you look at that fox poll. they always ask, do you approve the president's handling of this or that or this issue? his best numbers are health care and economy. meaning with obamacare and economy. those are his best numbers because his numbers fallen so much on issues like immigration and foreign policy. he is not doing better in economic issues. just that confidence in him has fallen in so many other things across the board. >> it is so true. why do you go on financial network right now? because you are trying to deflect from what is going on in the rest of the world.

you're trying to deflect the debacle in foreign policy that you created. you try to change the narrative. sadly to the economy which is terrible. so if that is your strong suit, wow, really says a lot. bill: has the worst been over? 55% say no. thank you, melissa. see you at 2:00? >> absolutely. "money," fox business. don't miss it. bill: thanks to both of you. martha: so real pitcher's dual last night between the indians and royals had bit of an odd outcome. a bloop to the left fielder. he can not come up with the ball. oh, gets right away from him. then throws it back and it went to the outfield. the runner kept going, eventually, look at that, looks like some little league games i went. so close catching it. royals won 2-1. what do you think, bill? you're pretty much a baseball expert. bill: uh-huh.

martha: what do you think? bill: he bet he regrets that. i saw a pitch recently. i saw a first pitch recently, boom, right there. martha: really. bill: yeah. martha: who did that? bill: oh. martha: there it is. who knew. bill: we got to find the video. martha: yeah, that is all we had. it was a still. you said it was a strike. no real evidence. bill: correction. i have shown you video on computer. i'm not allowed to put it on tv because violation of policy. martha: seriously? you should have had that written into your contract you were allowed to show it over and over again on our show. so, well-done, hemmer. bill: thank you. martha: can't get enough of that picture. i know you can't either. bill: show it every day. obama administration weighing several options on handling an influx of illegals. one possibility that gives special status to hundreds of honduran children. fair and balanced debate on the controversy behind all this in a

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bill: now we have a mystery solved. investigators in orange county, california, they figured out who is responsible for leaving pores lane dolls on dolls on doorsteps of eight hopes in california. even more disturbing, the some family say the dolls are look like their own daughters. >> creepy. bill: indeed. sheriff said it was act much goodwill by woman living nearby. she goes to same church as many of the families. she says she simply wanted to gift dolls away. >> next time, suggest put a note, from your friend at church

back to this story now. the obama administration is considering a new plan to relief the border crisis, by possibly granting refugee status to honduran children while still in honduras before making a trek across mexico which is so dangerous for many of these children. federal official was screen thousands of children back in honduras to figure out whether or not they are eligible to come to this country this is done with executive action with no input from congress if the administration makes the change. let's see what our folks on the panel think today. guy benson, townhall.com, fox news contributor and jessica ehrlich. former congressional candidate. good to have both of you here today. >> hi, martha. martha: guy, start with you, what do you think of that plan, that idea? >> martha in my heart you think, yeah, help the kids. they're caught up in terrible

gang violence. they're desperate to improve the situation. we're america, generous compassionate people. this is way to mitigate some much treachery as you called it, passing through mexico to come here illegally, i have to point out. my head gets involved in the conversation. hold your hours here. we'll recrude refugees in country that is neither war-torn or suffering from national disaster? what about christians in iraq? what about schoolgirls in afghanistan. they have to be terrified what awaits them after withdrawal. what about syria? more than 100,000 cash all thes, in that war. we can't recruit refugees all over the world. we have to prioritize it. i'm into the sure if this needs to be priority. martha: that is interesting point. jessica, what do you think about it? >> i think this is sort of a good first step looking for solutions for the problem, particularly because this particular solution would mean

that people would be getting processed still in their home country. they would then have a legal status to come to the u.s. so, that is at least, you know, one sort of way to deal with the issue. martha: what do you think about guy's point? there are children, sadly, tragically, all over the world who would love to have u.s. plane come pick them up to bring them to this country? what about them? talk to people in chicago who say, what about our kids? where do you draw the line? why honduras, particularly, jessica? >> the original bill that caused this whole issue, really the william wilberforce act of 2008 is one that deals particularly with issue of trafficking with children and gang violence and issues they're dealing with in honduras, el salavador and guatemala. we know there is crisis down there. we deal with different immigrants coming whether

from refugees or as aisleees, whether they have legal status to come into the country and legal stat to us remain. that is good part what is recommended here. we would be able to have documented, these children, and other people from that country, are fleeing gang violence and other things where they're being threatened. it deals with a humanitarian issue. which is why supposedly everyone is coming and we're having this huge crisis an influx on our borders. martha: the president of honduras says it is partly our fault. we should share in the blame and share in the solution. here he is last night talking to greta. >> translator: , we presidents of gaut haul ma and el salavador and myself will ask president obama and the congress to accept this is problem should be shared. humanitarian crisis for these children is responsibility for central america and also the united states. martha: so it is our fault too,

guy, because we have created a huge customer for the illegal drug trade. what do you make of that statement? >> i would suggest that these central american leaders clean up acts in their own country first before they start casting blame and stones. that being said, there is another side of this. not just children's caping violence but families her resume mores of potential amnesty getting under the wire. administration says this is does not apply to you, not true. those rumors percolated for months. this is why we have tens of thousands of kids showing up we need some sort of a method to go through tens of thousands people already here and figure out which are legitimate refugees and which of them are not. unfortunately need to be sent back home for the rule of law. martha: we are now learning that the administration knew that we were going to get this flood of

children, 60,000, they estimated, back in january? then there was this, you know, sort of public profession that it was, sort of a surprise and, oh, my gosh we have to go to congress to get millions of dollars to help deal with the situation which we weren't expecting. that is a little disingenuous, is it not, jessica. >> i'm not privy exactly when they knew this would be happening. this has been an ongoing problem. certainly we need to deal wit now. hopefully that will be achieved. this is one of many proposals brought about and discussed by various federal agencies handling the situation. i hope we come to a solution. privately what we're dealing with also, is, you know, what is the future looking like for the united states. how will we deal with our border issues? we need to address it. we have ongoing issue. we not only need to help refugees and asyleees. these girls coming before

whether they are in afghanistan or africa, people dealing with crisis and we need to help people come to this country to have our economy grow. we need to have common sense, comprehensive plan and that is not happening. there is all this sort of infighting. >> maybe the administration will talk to the presidents of these three countries, you need to make it really clear we're not an open border and perhaps then deal with the people who are already here and take care of these children who understandably -- >> has to be multipronged. martha: thank you very much. thanks, jessica. thanks, guy. see you next time. >> thank you, martha. >> sounds like summer, martha. gravity powered speed demons. the all american soapbox derby is underway. did you know? we'll take you behind the big race. martha: so cool. ♪ [ female announcer ] there's a gap out there.

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>> eight minutes away on "happening now." president obama set to meet with several central american leaders at the white house. there are reports that the u.s. is considering refugee status for some illegal immigrants from honduras. might go there to set up processing center. is that a good idea? the politics of immigration ahead. plus new polling what americans think about this surge of illegal immigrants coming across the border. also americans views on the economy, and a new senate map for the midterms. larry sabato here with his crystal ball and his november predictions, all ahead, "happening now." martha: we'll see you at top of the hour. meantime police responding to a call at the seattle space needle yesterday as visitors spot ad drone buzzing around the iconic landmark. visitors say the small aircraft was hovering over the observation deck before returning to window of nearby hotel.

that is weird. they found owner of device just bought it at hobby shop. they advised him not to fly around the space needle in the future. i can't believe he got it that far without crashing through the window and falling to the ground. bill: at a local hotel. boys and girls start your engines or is it ready to roll? 77th all american soapbox derby getting underway this weekend, akron ohio. 500 racers from all over the world descending on akron for the big race tomorrow morning. with me the international soapbox derby president and ceo. emily fox a world champion three years ago, at the old age of 13. she is now 16 now. good day to both of you. hey, joe, take us through it. i think a lot of folks who are not really aware of this race in akron, ohio, have no idea these are all homemade soapbox derby racers. they have no engines. they work on graphty. it is kids working with the

parents to put together a winning combination. >> absolutely, bill. this is a great family event. there are 600 races that happen around the world that all culminate to tomorrow. the world championship of gravity racing. we've got over 6,000 participants worldwide. they come in from germany, japan, new zealand, canada and all across the u.s. to compete in tomorrow's world championship. bill: just wouldn't be summer without it, would it, joe? such a tradition that goes back 77 years now. >> strong, rich, tradition here at the iconic derby downs in akron, ohio. we are just ecstatic to be bringing this race, and continuing this tradition here in akron, ohio. bill: no engines, right? build it on your own and fly down the hill. emily, that is what you did three years ago. what was your big strategy for

success? how did you win it? >> well, i think my winning all because of the connection that i had with my family and working with my car and dedication i put forth in my car. i raised all the money to buy my car and paint it. i painted my car like a pickle and named it steve. so steve the pickle and, i had a really close bond with my car which i think is the reason that i won, because i put so much time into my car. bill: that's sweet. why a pickle? and why, who is steve? >> well, since i was a little girl i always loved pickles. when i watched my first soapbox derby race i realized that the super stock car kind of looked like a pickle. rounded at the top. and steve, i don't know. it was my first local race and a girl is like, did you name your car? no, i don't think people do

that. they're like, why don't you just name it steve. i'm like, sound good. bill: nice. well-done. good luck to steve. joe, final word? >> great family event. you can watch us on aasbd.org. that our website. there is live webcast starts tomorrow at 8:30 in the morning. rolls through about 3:30 in the afternoon. we'll crown six world champions. bill: starting 8:00 a.m. tomorrow. joe and emily. out of axe cron, ohio, tell steve we said hello. thanks to both of you. enjoy the weekend. >> thanks, bill. martha: good luck to them. back to the hard news of the day and it is crunch time and decisions that will be made about the middle east. israel and hamas weighing a u.s. cease-fire proposal on the table right now as deadly fighting rages on. the latest in this crisis and what's to come when we come back.

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pitch you threw out? i would love to see the video again. >> how much time do you have? >> have a great weekend, everybody. see you on monday. president obama getting set for a white house meeting with key central american leaders pressing them to do more to stop the young people from flooding across our southern border. hello and a happy friday to you i am jon scott. >> and i am in for jenna lee. the administration is considering a pilot program allowing young people to apply for refugee status without making the dangerous trip across the border. but critics say it will only increase the flee