brian and i have been talking about. why don't they have those for guys? sounds like the spanx will be about 150 bucks. >> you chose spanx as your one for the road. >> we spanx you for it. >> thanks, everybody. >> christmas gifts not too early, is really war planes hitting targets in gaza overnight, watch this. >> those flares turning the sky orange. hamas government complex hit, fuel tanks they look like they're exploding into flames. another strike hitting in gaza city where fox news staff is saying this is how those

happened. the bar raja coming after benjamin netanyahu reminding of the campaign against hamas. there is talk of a cease-fire not confirmed as of this moment. a live report from the region as it gets hotter by the day. another fox news alert, vladimir putin is at it again, a landmark arms control treaty, a senior american officials say moscow tested a band cruise missile. a lot of headlines yet again today. welcome to america's news. >> i am martha mccallum. word that perot russian rebels are still keeping investigators from securing the crash site of the malaysian airline shot down earlier this month. steve harrington is live on the ground in kiev. is there any sign we are getting any closer to getting in there

in this investigation? >> zero sign of progress around the crash site. for the third day in a row international investigators turned around despite the fact they are traveling with armed security. the fight continues between ukrainian forces and russian backed rebels. the investigators vowed to bring back all human remains from that crash site. most haven't even seen the crash site. they have been sitting around trying to get there for more than a week. plating is often with unguided rockets. both sides have them so it is a terror for civilians in the area. 200,000 civilians on the run in eastern ukraine trying to get away from that. >> it looks like there is international pressure that is mounting on russia when it comes to this question. is it going to get anywhere? >> we could see some new facts on the ground by the end of the day not just from the u.s. but

the european union. new targets which could hit russia's economy, not just top individuals but new sanctions from the u.s. and europe that could target the banking economy and its ability to buy weapons all possible increase of pressure on russia and not just in results of the downing of that civilian airline the russian action since the plane went down, the fact russia is massing troops along the border and continues to supply large amounts of heavy weaponry to those rebels in an effort to destabilize ukraine. >> the accident seems to have emboldened russia in this fight. thank you very much. >> how will the white house response? what will the president to? by ring york of the washington examiner, good morning. what do we do about this? >> the russians have violated

this arms treaty agreement between united states and soviet union and now russia. coming after the war in ukraine, shoot down a malaysian airlines, russians shielding ed snowden from american prosecution, this is creating a real crisis atmosphere and it has been building for a while. we are hearing about the arms control problem right now but it has been building behind-the-scenes. >> this is the foundation for arms control that goes back, predates russia. this was soviet union time, this was 1987, reagan/gorbachev. how serious is this? or is this the only hand we have to play right now? >> it is serious. it is the intermediate range nuclear forces treaty and it bans testing from ground-based cruise missiles that can go anywhere from 300 to 3400 miles. not intercontinental missiles but missiles that could threaten

areas in europe for examples of this is the foundation, we thought these missiles had been destroyed. apparently american officials have known for a few years the russians were testing a new ground-based cruise missile, complete violation of this treaty. they told members of congress on a classified basis, members of congress have been pushing the obama administration to do something about this for more than a year and nothing has happened. now the administration is coming out saying this violation is occurring. what is going to happen now? apparently more diplomacy. this has been a hallmark of the united states, the soviet union and with russia the continuing arms control talks which have always gone on. remember in 1983 we talk about this, the shootdown of the korean air lines, ronald reagan gave an increase speech about the soviet union, denounced in

the strongest terms but at the end of the speech said our arms control agreement talks that are going on right now are so important that we won't call the law even because of this. i did look for talks to continue. >> you have the malaysian shoot down. if you don't react to that would be reacting? the matter of ukraine as we mentioned, ed snowden still hiding out in moscow. we will see whether or we have some type of hand to play against moscow. >> you have to increase sanctions. we have words that the europeans may be coming on board to line up with the united states, increasing sanctions on the russian economy not just on an individual company but whole sectors of the economy to make it hurt. that has to be done in response to all but sealed provocations we have had. >> a big maybe at the end of that one. good to have you here.

to our viewers watching now, how does the u.s. get the upper hand on vladimir putin? take your pick. send us a tweet, we will share your ideas throughout the next two hours of our broadcast today. a big list there. >> get you on board for those sanctions and we will see what happens with that. in the meantime back here at home a rare tornado hits just outside boston, hitting nearby revere yesterday. look that this damage. it ripped apart homes and businesses, toward freeze out of the ground. the national weather service says it is the first confirmed tornado here in more than 60 years. >> release strong, strong wind. i didn't have a chance to get nervous. it happened all of a sudden. >> matter of seconds. >> material stuff is material stuff but people are people.

>> that story doesn't happen very often in the northeast. >> this was the only twister ever recorded in massachusetts when officials began keeping records. hurricane force winds developed very quickly. the powerful tornado trashing the town five miles north of boston after 9:30 in the morning terrifying many of the 50,000 residents and chewing through the heart of revere knocking down trees and signs in the auto repair shop and damage 100 homes coughing up have roughly two miles long, nearly a half mile wide and most say they had little or no warning was coming. >> where can i go that is safe? there was a mechanic in the day trying to dodge flying stuff. >> i went into the garage after i saw it in the back. it is time to step back and hope for the best. >> one guy said his house shook

and trees uprooted from his yard and in ten seconds the storm was gone. >> what about injuries? >> the most remarkable part of this story there are reports the baby was cut by glass, there are no official deaths or injuries even though the tornado warning wasn't issued until ten minutes after the storm made landfall. there were reports of gas leaks and thousands left without power but most utilities have been restored. the business district had recently been revitalized. >> we took a walk down broadway to look at some of the investments that had been made and will be made to lift this neighborhood and encourage more business development and to see the damage write-down this very corridor from this tornado, i will say it is a blessing no one was hurt. >> the cleanup continues today.

>> thank you very much. >> so bizarre, mass.. more dangerous weather, two twister's touching down outside of denver. this is a storm system that moved through the city's airport. no one injured, no damage reported. flash flood warning remained in effect for that area. >> some streets are under water following a huge down for flooding five feet in some areas. the rain just came. >> it really started pouring. no one was ready for it last year but the fact that it has happened twice, there is so much more debris. >> minor damage to several homes mostly due to down power lines but once again someone watching over all these things, no one was hurt in that situation.

>> congress goes on long vacation, will they do anything about the immigration crisis on the southern border? karl rove reacts to that and reacts to the ability to govern in america today. don't miss that coming up. >> ed deadly shootout in a famous manhattan neighborhood. what sparked the gunbattle yesterday afternoon. >> secretary john kerry has taken heat for this bill, is he up to the challenge in the middle east? >> i don't think john kerry is malevolent. i don't think he is evil. he is too small a man for this job.

>> two u.s. marshals and a new york city police officer are recovering after a shootout in greenwich village. happened to the manhattan smoke shop where the officers are trying to arrest the wife and child sex offender who was running away from them. police say the suspect opened fire on the officers and that sparked the gun battle. >> these two marshals and the nypd detective is exhibited extraordinary bravery. they have to deal with a difficult situation. we all feel such gratitude, such appreciation for their bravery. >> they tried to revive the suspect on the scene but he was

killed in that shootout. >> a five week recess happens every august. with no movement on slowing the flood of illegal immigrants crossing the border, now some critics including at least one border agent say lawmakers should stay in session until the crisis is solved. listen. >> border patrol agents will be on duty. we don't take five weeks off. we will be here doing our jobs and that includes rescuing people especially kids who don't know survival skills and going through a very difficult period trying to get into the u.s.. >> karl rove, deputy chief of staff for george bush and fox news contributor, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> we will be on duty, we don't take five weeks off. four days ago, will this get done? >> before the end of the four days? no. the progress could be made. two bills, when in the senate

and one in the house. what happened this each chamber passes its own bill and they then send it to conference. the conferees meet during august and if they come to an agreement congress could come back during august in order to vote on the measure that has been negotiated between house and senate but there are big differences between the two bodies and no guarantee either house will pass the bill, the house of representatives likely to pass the bill before it leaves washington but no guarantee both of them will and no guarantee even if they do that it will go to conference and negotiate. >> the president won $3.7 billion and the house was 1.5 billion. these guys are going to go home, women as well, men and women from congress will go home and meet with constituents and get an earful about a number of topics. how does illegal immigration fit into this category when you are

a few months from the midterm election? >> there is a new poll showing 60% of the people believe that this is extremely import or very important to do something about and only 14% believe it is not too import for not important all, 22% are in the middle. the members had better be prepared to say this is what i believe in and here is what we have done. the house is likely to pass this measure and probably the senate too. the question is do they get anything done? money is only one of the two problems. the other problem is policy. what do you do? do you treat people from central america like we treat people from canada and mexico so you can move out of the country easier and faster? >> a daily log, reacting now in this statement to a poll put out by cnn about the number of americans who believe the president could effectively govern a series of the events, the va a scandal, the border

crisis in ukraine, the nsa spying program badly and the money idea that obama can effectively manage the government's, the border crisis in at least as well, 57% do not believe they have the confidence he can effectively govern. is that a reflection of fund-raising? is that a reflection of what vladimir putin is doing on a daily basis? is that a reflection of not being present in the white house when these big things are happening? you are playing golf for raising money but there's a sense of absence. is that what you see reflected in this number, 57%? >> it is a whole toxic stew. decisions, crisis on the border, what is happening internationally, concerns about obamacare, reaction to the constant fund-raising, a believe the president is disconnected and the most important point was look at the electorate that is likely to turn out this year,

57% of all americans feel that way but among seniors to make up a disproportionate share of midterm elections 62% among independents who decide elections 66% among white voters who will make up a larger percentage of the electorate this year than they do in presidential election years 70%. chris's point was it is worse than it looks, 57% is the bad number. if you look at the electric -- the electorate is even worse because his numbers are worse. >> he concludes saying if the president is a major topic of conversation in early november that is a bad thing for democrats. 15 seconds quickly. >> it will be a bad year for democrats because you can bet every republican candidate for the senate, house and many gubernatorial candidate will be bringing on the president come early october and making a steady drumbeat for the final election. this is a chance for the american people to send a message to the president saying we approve what you're doing and vote for democrats or to say mr. president, you can do better, we

will do the other party. >> we will see in the end if that is the case. live in austin. >> only two years until social security disability fund goes broke, folks. this is the latest estimate we are getting from the government so what will happen after that? >> a teenager is back, after going missing from months. there was an arrest in this case and since the new details on where she was all that time away from home. >> it blew my mind, it was on the street. [ crickets chirping ] but did you know that the lack of saliva can also lead to tooth decay and bad breath? [ exhales deeply ] [ male announcer ] well there is biotene. specially formulated with moisturizers and lubricants, biotene can provide soothing relief and it helps keep your mouth healthy, too. [ applause ]

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>> the castaways' aback this morning, whale watchers returning to boston after they were stranded at sea overnight,

160 people spend the night on the boat after it propeller was the kennel lobster crack 15 miles of salmon bound. divers free-abusing specially clement earlier today and perhaps not a surprise the company says passengers get a refund. >> the social security disability fund, the 11 million americans receive some sort of social security disability benefits at a cost of $140 billion a year so we are at 11 million. look at this number. that number of people who receive disability benefits is up 321% since 1970. why would that be? the fund is expected to run dry in a couple years. is being captain cousteau heavily.

this is something that has been going on for a while. it is extraordinary the ballooning of the number of people who are getting disability benefits. the work place is supposed to have gone safer and safer over the last 30 or 40 years. >> that is entirely true. what happened is a lot of people using social security disability instead of unemployment benefits. it has come to that. expanded the range of ailments under which you can claim disability and there are very few people checking on fraud. result, an explosion to roughly 11 million people saw taking social security disability. if you look at the financing of this is costing $140 billion a year. much more than the trust fund is able to bear so we will run out of the ability to pay those benefits in full in late 2016. >> right around the corner. >> treasury secretary jack lew

wants to take money from the retiree portion of social security, put it into the disability portion, jack of the disability fund and be able to pay it out longer in full. >> the retirees -- >> the retiree fund runs out of money year or two earlier as opposed to -- >> to pay essentially. >> absolutely correct. >> why is there no effort to rein in these disability numbers? no one in this country doesn't want someone who is genuinely disabled to receive the benefit. obviously there is a ton of abuse in the system. >> yes there is. do you mean it in? if you do rain it in what happens to your vote? there is a suggestion that president obama does not want to rein it in. he wants to buy votes with taxpayer money. that is an opinion i am voicing an opinion, not a fact, but that is the way many people look at

it. you extend unemployment benefits, food stamps, with taxpayer money. somewhat similar with disability. you don't rain in the fraud, don't rain in the number of claimantss because that would annoy the voting bloc. this is the negative viewpoint, it is a biased viewpoint. >> we were wrong in the way we looked at this group bent a lot of people deserve this benefit, we were going to make sure anyone who needs it is covered and it never goes away. >> it does not. once you are on, you are on and the number of people who drop off is something like less than 1/2%. it is a benefit for life just about. >> thank you very much. >> the white house accused russia of violating an armed street signs in the reagan administration in 1987. the chair of the house armed

services committee will talk about the growing problem between vladimir putin in washington. stay tuned for that. >> some israelis are complaining vociferously about secretary of state john kerry and how he has attempted to broker some kind of deal. is he helping or hurting? >> by the way the state department still thinks it is 1963 in the middle east. they don't understand the entire region is in turmoil. the order is breaking down. mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals. 9 grams of protein... with 30% less sugars than before. ensure, your #1 dr. recommended brand now introduces ensure active. muscle health. clear protein drink and high protein. targeted nutrition to feed your active life. ensure. take life in.

>> 9:32 from new york, in gaza a close of the of the missiles right near the fox news bureau working out of gaza. that is a hundred yards away. 70 more air strikes left, hitting targets including the power plant, the only power plant operating in gaza. prime minister benjamin

netanyahu saying israelis should be ready for a prolonged campaign. there was talk of a ceasefire earlier today and apparently that talk is just that. john huddy live on the border today. how much have you seen for yourself? >> there has been a lot of intense action including right now in the distance. there is a tremendous amount of smoke. to look left of the camera away from that there have been by my count may be four heavy air strikes including within the last five minutes before we went live. as you were talking we heard another two air strikes over is there. an intense amount of action, artillery fire and in gaza conlan as you mentioned we had some action earlier as well. take a look. this is a rocket that just landed, came over our heads, we

saw it, we heard it screaming over and it landed in this open fields right on the other side of the road and pass that road is that neighborhood. it didn't cause any damage or injuries but was one of 38 rockets fired from gaza at israel adding to the 2600 rockets fired at israel the past 22 days. in gaza fox news caught this explosion on camera next to the crew's location and earlier today artillery fire struck a fuel tank at the largest, causing a massive fire. >> you see the smoke in the distance, massive air strikes including the couple's that happened a short time ago. this is the fresher continues to grow for a cease-fire because of the growing death toll in gaza. 100 people were killed today. 1200 have been killed so far.

6200 have been injured and in israel 62 people have been killed, three civilians and 53 soldiers. again we are seeing a lot of intense action. as you see in the distance behind us. >> there was a call for a humanitarian cease-fire for three days. unconfirmed, a leader and hamas has rejected that. we will see what the truth is. john huddy back on the border with israel and gaza. >> is real steps up its war on hamas, there is growing criticism of john kerry's effort in all of this to broker some kind of cease-fire which he says is what he thinks needs to happen. ambassador john bolton, former ambassador to the u.n. and fox news contributor joins us now. there has been a ton of criticism for john kerry from the israeli newspapers and elsewhere. what do you think of that? >> it is justified. is a mistake to broker a

cease-fire at this point but it is a reflection of a year-and-a-half of misplaced priorities by the administration to cut a deal between israel and the palestinians. as long as hamas is determined to destroy israel there isn't any deal to be cut. no room for negotiation. what is the compromise position between hamas who wants to destroy israel and israel? hamas gets to destroy a little bit of this row? think about it for a minute. that is why there has never been a role for diplomacy in the current circumstances and there isn't today looking at a cease-fire. >> i understand what you are saying. i was speaking to k. t. mcfarland about it. in order to get a real cease-fire each side has to feel like they got something and in that case israel wants to shut down the tunnels and demilitarize gaza. doesn't look like we are anywhere near that kind of resolution.

how far would you allow israel to go in this? how far would you encourage them to go if you were in john kerry's position? how would you be doing things differently? >> i would not be trying to broker a cease-fire. i would be encouraging israel to do what it needs to do to eliminate the hamas for at. when you are attacked the right of self-defense doesn't mean simply responding for a little while. includes up to destroying the adversary that has attacked you and i must say the attacks on the tunnel's the israelis have carried out, the infiltration tunnels into israel are obviously important to protect the civilian population but that is not the main threat. people have to stop focusing on the infiltration tunnels. the real issues the longer-range missiles that iran has supplied. they have the capability to range almost all of israel and when you combine what hamas has,

its capability was with hezbollah's capabilities in lebanon you can see the threat that israel faces of retaliation by iran if israel ever went after iran's nuclear-weapons programs. that is the real strategic threat and so far israel has barely scratched the surface of hamas's capabilities. >> it is easy to see a near-term future where all these forces are combined against israel. don't know where we are headed here, but it feels pretty ugly and like it is going to go on for a long time. >> that is right and as long as iran continues to pursue nuclear-weapons and the administration has utterly failed to slow down their nuclear weapons program through diplomacy you are going to have a worse situation. there are some things diplomacy can't solve. not because john kerry isn't a good secretary of state although he is not, you could combine the

height of their diplomatic powers, they are not going to bring a solution where one side wants the destruction of israel. >> what should president obama be doing right now? >> i think he should be aiding the israelis in their efforts to counter hamas and hezbollah and i think he should be working with them to destroy iran's nuclear weapons program. if you can't stop iran from getting nuclear weapons, others in the region will get nuclear-weapons too, the saudis, the egyptian some of the turks and others, people have to focus on the big picture. the threat to israel, the united states and whatever minimal stability there is in the world when nuclear proliferation succeeds as it did in north korea and as it is doing in iran. >> big changes on the way and as you point out this is the very heart of it and it goes to a wider circle in the regions that could be very problematic for

us. thank you very much. >> the federal appeals court ruling of the steel cross constructed on display at ground zero museum will remain part of the world trade center memorial. intersecting steel beams found in the rubble days after the collapse of the twin towers a group of atheists sued to take it down saying it violated separation of church and state. a federal judge rejecting their appeal agreeing with the original ruling that the historical importance of the cross out ways any of those potential concerns. that was a big concern on behalf of the museum, they wanted the cross in their. they were in the torch for a couple years and so far they continue to win. >> it is a piece of the structure of the world trade center as it fell on that day and a lot of people rallied around that cross and is a huge decisions they decided they will keep it and leave it there.

a stunning museum to be part of. there is some amazing video that has been captured by an observation camera and it shows exactly what happens when of volcano erupts. >> you don't see that everyday. more attention between the u.s. and russia, the white house accusing vladimir putin of violating a landmark arms treaty. how can united states manage?

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>> hawaii's most-active volcano erupting on camera. that is what it looks like when it is actually happening. looks like a school science project but it is the real deal. excluding at the hawaii volcanoes national park, followed by ashes. it happened after a piece of the crater wall collapsed in a surrounding lava lake. that will trigger such thing as. >> i see mccallum making that. white house officials accusing

russia of violating a landmark nuclear arms treaty. after the u.s. a russia test fired a band cruise missile. republican congressman, chairman of the house armed services committee, good morning. this hole vladimir putin mess, what do we do? >> we have known about this. it has taken two years for the president to admit that russia was cheating and when it was obvious to most of the world, what it should have done is shown some leadership and that would have probably caused vladimir putin to take a second look at what he was doing because he wasn't called up, he has a feeling he can do whatever you wants and beat us into a second cold war. >> when you look at flight 17 and ed snowden and iran and syria and the sanctions and the tough talk, is this the best card we have to play right now?

>> we don't have a very good card to play. we put ourselves behind the eightball. the president because he wanted to lead from behind hasn't shown the leadership, he hasn't stood up and vladimir putin feels he can push us around and that is what he was doing. >> they launched a cruise missile. 2011 just to get the dates right, september of 2009 when our commander-in-chief canceled the missile defense shield in eastern europe. remembers that. >> i do remember that and said to our allies in the area. they look to us for leadership and help and haven't gotten it and it put the matter real quandary. the world is burning and nero is fiddling. in our case the world is burning and the president is playing

golf. >> also a claim of russian rockets being fired into ukraine, video to prove it. this is -- another case where you -- you get to the question what do you do about it? doesn't seem we are playing a very strong hand right now or if we do have a strong hand as katie mcfarland would say we're playing some bad cards. >> we cut $1 trillion out of the national defence starting a couple years ago and going forward the next we years. people in the world see that we are not having the forces we have had, cutting the navy back to world war i, cutting the army back to the smallest has been since before world war ii, the air force the smallest it has been since it was created. people of the world's watch this and i have leaders coming into my office almost -- on a daily basis in washington from around world asking me where is america? what are you going to do?

and when you cut back your ability to respond it is very difficult. we better get rid of sequestration, we better pay attention to what is happening around world and do the things to keep the military the strongest and most capable. reagan had the philosophy of peace through strength and eisenhower said you need to be so strong that nobody dares attack you. when you are weak, when you pull back, try to lead from behind you invite oppression and we're seeing the fruits of that now. >> there is news on the taliban side. would you getting ready to do with regard to this issue? >> the problems that we have, one of the problems we have is the president is selective in what laws you wants to enforce. >> was a couple years ago and wanted to release the five taliban, we passed a law because

of concerns, bipartisan concerns that he would do that so we pass a law that says you need to come to congress 30 days before you release anybody out of guantanamo. they didn't do is that. they didn't tell us. they broke the law. scott ridge has done a lot of work, has a bipartisan bill we are going to be marking up today that will hold this president and future presidents hopefully to following the law. >> does this have anything to do with the talk of impeachment as well? >> no. no. we are not talking impeachment. democrats talking about impeachment in order to gen up their base. i was here when we did impeachment. we are not going down the road. there is something we're going to vote on tomorrow. the ability to lead the speaker stand up for the congress, to force the law, to be obeyed by

the president. that is not between john boehner and the president, it is not between congress and white house, it is standing for the constitution, standing up for the constitution. we have three branches of government and they are coequal and this president is ignoring that constitution and the congress. >> thank you for your time from the hill. >> the teenage girl who has been missing for months, rumors were flying about her whereabouts but now she is back home, leaving plenty of unanswered questions. >> giving -- freedom of speech is one thing. the constitution, should undocumented immigrants the allowed to pick outside the white house without any fear of consequence? >> interesting question.

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kirby with felony did napping and he goes to court this afternoon. kidnapping. molly line in new hampshire. a lot of questions in this case. molly, what are which learning? >> reporter: martha as you say there are a lot of unanswered questions. we expect to get further insight when the suspect is arraigned on felony kidnapping charge of after missing for nine months, 15-year-old abigail hernandez appeared in her conway new hampshire home, reuniting with her family last sunday. they revealed little where she has been since disappearing after school last october. shortly yesterday afternoon, 34-year-old nathaniel kibby was taken in custody about 40 miles north of here. charged with condition count of felony kidnapping, knowingly confining abigail american hernandez with the perp to commit an offense against her. the new hampshire attorney

general's office said in release the teenager provided police with details of the kidnapping sufficient to warrant today's arrest. that arrest taking place yesterday. kibby has a long criminal history. we managed to get our hands on the criminal history. goes back into the late '90s. simple assault charge. one incident detailed the conway daily sun, citing records from 1998 that he grabbed a 16-year-old girl. he pled guilty recently to marijuana charge and something related to entirely different case he was told to refrain from possessing firearm. he was fighting that. trying to get his pistol back. martha. martha: family must be unbelievably overjoyed to have her back. molly, we'll see where this goes. thank you very much. bill: less than 100 days to midterm elections. president help or hurt critical races across america and across the country? we'll tell you what the numbers tell us at the moment. martha: the president considering his own plan to

solve the border crisis. what is in a bill under discussion that is quite controversial in washington? we'll talk about that when we come back. take 6 tylenol in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. onward!

martha: urgent call for action on the very hot issue of immigration right now. lawmakers are considering a security bill that they would fix the border crisis. meanwhile back at white house the president has his own plan to grant work per puts to millions of immigrants already here in this country illegally. so that on the table for immigration. welcome, everybody, brand new hour starting now of "america's newsroom." i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. right now we're about to hear from the brand new director of the u.s. citizenship and immigration services. he appears before the house judiciary committee there on the hill. chairman bob goodlatte saying president obama could end the crisis immediately telling those in central america they will be stopped at the boarder and sent back home. louisiana congressman steve scalise is the house majority whip. he says the president and his

immigration policy, that is to blame for much of the problem. here is scalise on that. >> we'll bring legislation to deal with and solve the crisis at the border. clearly the president has the ability to solve this and refuses to even acknowledge that it's a crisis. won't even go see the border. but meantime we're going to act. martha: chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is live on capitol hill. mike, different versions of this on both side. so where does this stand? >> reporter: well, martha, house republicans have been hearing from speaker john boehner and the republican leadership team about the details of the house gop plan we're hearing in is in the range of $600 million. we should get more details later what we understand it will emphasize border security. it would tweak a 2008 law to help expedite sending some of these children back to hair home countries more quickly. bottom line we don't expect that the house gop plan would get a whole lot of democratic support because we would expect democrats want more money for

border crisis. so house republican leaders need to figure out if there is path to 218 votes in the house of representatives for their measure. if so we expect them to bring it up later this week and dare harry reid and senate to act, martha. martha: that brings us to the senate. what do we expect over there? >> reporter: the senate has a plan of its own. barbara mikulski, senate appropriations chair, has $2.7 billion funding plan. she calls it strictly a funding bill. it does not change the 2008 law. it does not do much in terms of changing enforcement at the border and so critdicks are calling it a blank check. it won't likely get 60 votes in the united states senate. so the question is then, what is harry reid's next play? we'll expect to get speeches on senate floor today in favor of the mikulski plan, against the mikulski plan and critics note president obama is not weighing in. not playing active role what he

wants. he is traveling to kansas city later today to talk about something else, martha. martha: very interesting. mike, we'll see where it goes. thank you. >> reporter: thank you. bill: meanwhile the middle east crisis continues today. this as there is new friction between the white house and israel today. the administration defending secretary of state john kerry after harsh criticism in the israeli media of his efforts to broker a cease-fire with hamas. this is the latest sign of a strained relationship between the administration and benjamin netanyahu's government there. >> let me say this about secretary kerry. israel has no better friend, no stronger defender. no one has done more to help israel achieve a secure and lasting peace. he has been tireless in his efforts and i think that israel and many countries and friends around the world recognize exactly that. bill: senior white house foreign affairs correspondent wendell goler live at white house. good morning to you. some of the video overnight is

stunning as strikes continue in the middle east there. the administration bristled at criticism on behalf of israel, did they not? >> reporter: they did, bill, there is concern, perhaps frustration here that the fighting continues but folks flatly deny secretary of state john kerry push ad peace plan that favored hamas. deputy national security advisor tony hawkeen who we heard from, said who country should endure rockets rein raining down on its people. israel has the right to defend himself. with thousands of palestinians dead, most of them civilians, the israelis have a obligation too limit their own standard of limiting civilian casualties. the cease-fire proposal didn't come from the u.s. >> it was discussion paper based on original egyptian initiative. virtually every element unidentified sources complained about was in the initial egyptian proposal and agreed to by israel 10 days before.

>> reporter: blanken says the leaks come from people who were either misinformed or trying to misinform. bill? bill: what do republicans say? are they on board with this or not? do they disagree? >> reporter: they disagree with the obama administration's handling. house speaker john boehner should be support for israel and not peace mediation. there should be not vague on one hand and on the other hand statements. michigan pub mike rogers president obama's past criticism of israeli settlements and talk of a peace plan based around 1967 borders made israel leaders reluctant to trust him. >> israel is fighting for its existence here and they need space on the security front and i think there are things hamas want that can be worked into some agreement but you can't do that if you start to take side early on in this. >> reporter: some critics say the obama administration's

mistake was negotiating with hamas instead of the palestinian authority, even toe it is hamas that controls gaza. bill? bill: wendell, thank you. martha has more. martha: we're on this very sticky political wicket for the president and for john kerry. bob cusack, newly named editor-in-chief of "the hill." congratulations to you, bob. >> good mornings, martha. martha: this goes way back. we've been reporting icy meetings with prime minister benjamin netanyahu and president since beginning of administration. john kerry thought he could jet in there and thought about said on last round was not really invited. this isn't going well. >> no it is not. you think back to when john kerry came in, he had big plans of brokering a peace deal in the middle east and talking about cease-fires that will probably not happen anytime soon of the administration, there are no easy answers here. but whether it is putin trying to get back off obama wants that. that is not happening.

administration is not powerful handling with this issue. now they have to push back on reports there is a riff. there is clearly tension whether on the iran deal that the administration is trying to strike. israel is not fond of that. they are not fond of how kerry handled this. and that is why there are these leaks suggest there is clear tension between the countries. martha: we just heard mike rogers saying you can't really help in a negotiation if you appear to be leaning toward one side. here is speaker john boehner with his thoughts on all of this. let's watch. >> i think america must send this clear public and united message. israel is our friend and israel's enemies are our enemies. and as long -- [applause] and as long as i'm speaker of the house i give you my word, this will be our cause. martha: politically this has become very problematic for the

president in terms of his action or lack of action on the two fronts that you mentioned, in the middle east and in russia. how is all this playing in the beltway? >> well certainly republicans are going to pounce on this and john boehner, mike rogers, criticizing, they have an open avenue to criticize the president. i think person to watch in the coming months on this issue because not going away anytime soon is hillary clinton. there are at love democratic donors who have not been pleased with the administration's handling and relations with israel. so i think she's the one to watch in the coming months and distancing herself from the administration's handling of israel. martha: bob, that could get tricky for her. she was secretary of state. >> yes. martha: all through the early years of the obama presidency. so when it comes to iran and nuclear proliferation and the relationship with israel. >> yes. martha: that is going to be a tough line for her to walk. >> it is. she will have to thread the needle. she has done a little bit already where she said she is

skeptical that an iran deal can be struck. recently they extended the deadline. that did not set well with some democrats that want to mover ran sanctions as well as republicans. that is bipartisan bill. you will start to see her do more of that. martha: the most interesting person to watch over the next half year. bob, thank you very much. >> see you, martha. bill: so will washington finally fix the broken va health care system? the plan will spend billions of dollars to hire more doctors and staff and open new facilities in several states. it will also allow other options for vets living more than 40 miles away from a va center or those waiting a long time for an appointment. all of this to address big problems and improve veterans access to medical care. >> i don't believe there will be a flight of all of the veterans out of the system but we don't know unless we start this program. >> we hope that with more doctors and nurses and space coming in, the va system itself

will be able to accommodate more veterans in a timely manner. bill: we'll see whether or not they can come together on this it appears they're very close. both the house and senate vote to approve this plan very soon. they leave out of washington for five-week recess in about four days so. martha: staring at bottom of that screen, it said congress reaches bipartisan deal, which is not something we have to type into our lower third graphics very often. that is pretty interesting. we'll see where they go, how far they get. so the midterms are fast approaching. we're inside the 100 day mark for the midterms and the president will likely play a key role in november's outcome. how do his poll numbers stack up? who wants him, who doesn't want him on the campaign trail? plus this. >> we believe pastors have constitutional right to speak freely from the pulpit. the irs should not be the pulpit police. bill: what is going on here? is the taxman going after america's churches. why the irs may soon put houses

of worship under the microscope? is that true? we'll talk about it. martha: here is a mystery. a mother of two vanished without a trace. the growing efforts to find her and bring her home. >> she was wonderful with her children. they, from what we can see they had a wonderful relationship. and it's, it's incredibly uncharacteristic for something like this to happen. vo: this is the summer.

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bill: detectives in oregon pouring over surveillance video for any signs of a missing mother two of young boys. jennifer houston was last seen at a gas station on thursday only miles from her home. since then no sign of her, no credit card use and cell phone she used had been turned off. she was driving a dark green lexus suv like this one with oregon tags. her husband says she would not just run off and abandon her sons. >> she's a devoted mother. she is, she is just a very good person and, for her to, for her to do something like this is completely out of the norm. all of her friend would agree, and i appreciate the support. bill: family and friends set up facebook page dedicated to that search in the state of oregon. martha: well, believe it or not we're in the middle of the summer but we're just four months away from the big midterm

elections that we'll be so focused on in the coming months and we have some brand new polls that show, first of all, this is the first one, if the election were held today, 43% say they would vote for democratic candidate compared to 41% say they would vote for republican. when asked only most interested voters here is how that stacked up, 47% saying they would vote for the republican. interested voters mean a lot in this election as bob beckel knows because a lot of people don't show up for midterms but interested voters do. seems like a lot of interest on the republican side. >> sure there is. we've known this for a long time. you look at turnout in republican primaries, they are much higher than they were in years past. so i suspect there will be a very big turnout. now the democrats are going to have to be frightened and so far they're not really frightened. which is why i think obama is one of the few people who can do

that. he can stir a base. and that is, i know talk about people don't want to campaign with obama and rest of it, but i consider that one of those campaign myths. martha: we've seen it. we've seen it to a certain extent. a number of candidates weren't available when the president came to visit. i want to pull up another one because we're talking about it. pull up another one because we're talking about it. would you want president obama campaign for you. 41% said yes. 50% say no. back in 2010 those numbers were very different. you still think he can help them? >> oh, sure, a president, look, people who decide to vote against a democratic candidate whether for house or senate because of obama already made up their mind about that. that's done of the republicans will turn out in large numbers and they will vote against the democratic candidates. so really gets down to independent voters and can you get enough democrats out to vote? and if there is anybody who is very good at drawing contrasts between democrats and republicans is obama. obama may not do a lot of things well in the white house but he

is excellent campaigner. he is not afraid to take republicans on. not afraid to take on specific republican candidates. there are three states i would not go into. i would not go into louisiana. i would no-go into georgia and not go into north carolina. but rest of them i think senate races, here is what it boils down to. the house will stay democrat, or republican depending how many votes. seats they sick up are six. they took most of you could get in 2010. the real play for the senate. in that case we've got some vulnerable democrats but i think that obama can help them in many ways by drawing contrast and by taking on, doing negatives on their opponent. martha: how much do you think, when you look at the deterioration in his numbers, he is around 42, 43% in approval numbers which is very weak and also these numbers that chris pointed out this morning basically said he is not capable of managing the job. that's a basic sort of

incompetence number that chris writing for "the washington post" says is actually worse than people realize. what do you think is the major factor for this hit? >> well, let's keep in mind that the sixth year of incumbent president of two terms are always bad. the numbers for bush, for clinton were terrible in their sixth year. very much like obama. i think part of the reason is that obama had expectations set so high and he was such a good campaigner and people really believed that things were going to change fundamentally, i think obama did. when you look at reality of what politics is all about, let's remember, only nine years ago this guy was in the illinois state legislature. martha: we watched yesterday, 10th anniversary of the speech in boston, we're not a black america, we're not a white america. he looked 20 years younger as all presidents can do. i look at the foreign policy aspect. i think that has been the biggest -- i think people were very forgiving of the president in terms of domestic policy except when it comes to health

care perhaps which is obviously the biggest issue for him. but when you look at the for return policy issues or inaction or perceived inaction, i think that has deteriorated his numbers tremendously. >> i think that's right except here's the problem, when you pose the question, when he gets attacked about that, you ask the question what would you do? this is not a clear war there used to be cold war and either on united states side or on russians side or ussr side. now very complicated. now you're into ethnic nation-building all kind of things going on. martha: how, i saw the most disturbing pictures from mh17, of people who fell out of that plane and were still in their seat when they landed in the grass. how the united states of america does not respond to that is shocking. >> what would they respond doing what? martha: taking down a passenger plane? >> no i understand how bad it is. martha: people strapped in their seats and just pretending like

russia had nothing to do with it? not even a forceful, not even a look, that was the act but now you need to back off and let us get in there and investigate and protect those bodies? that to me, is the most reprehensible, i don't understand it. >> again, you know, you could say that we should go in there, be able to go in there. the remember the plane was surrounded by pro-russian militants. do we really want to put u.s. soldiers on the ground to fight our way to -- the idea somehow obama is responsible for that is crazy one. martha: not responsible for it. talking about reaction tonight. putin's worst nightmare in the way. really is. they thought it was cargo plane. turned out to be parenting plane. martha: doesn't seem time pack his behavior one iota. >> he is, basically a third world nation with nuclear weapons we'll go and talk about again. bob, thank you very much. >> pleasure. bill: white house may go it alone on immigration. could the president be leaning toward another executive order? lou dobbs in a moment on that to

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americans think that illegal immigrant should be, these illegal immigrants should be returned home. this is a president who chosen the wrong side of history. he is a man who is obsessed with being on the right side of history. he is seldom there. and this time he has completely crossed that line. >> let me show our viewers some numbers. >> sure. bill: these are big numbers too, all right? you have 3.8 million illegal immigrants parents of u.s. citizens, okay? you also have the parents of as you termed it correctly, deferred action childhood arrivals could be between half a million to million. put two numbers together just

shy of five million. five million. >> again. these are estimates. we hear bandied about, 11 million illegal immigrants in this country. let's be honest, no one knows because you're not allowed if you work for the government in any capacity to ask immigration status. and that is the result of what has been a decade of wrangling, games playing and just sheer bald upside-down politics by both political parties. this is issue could have been resolved a decade ago but neither party is willing to deal in the interests of both the nation and illegal immigrant. we have a host of activists groups that are working on their behalf, not on that of illegal immigrant. we have the chamber of commerce, business roundtable, acting in their interest, not the interest of the nation nor our middle class and those who aspire to it. we have, think about this, bill. we have two parties that aren't even asking the real questions which are, why are we putting up

with this? why in the world do we want to have another 12 million unskilled, uneducated people within our borders? what is the national purpose? and who should be paying for it? bill: we talked to karl rove about this last hour. the house could pass its idea. senate would pass its idea but you would not go into conference to merge two bills together until after the august recess. even they the president could take executive action after august. to summarize, you believe if he does this his party will pay a big price? >> absolutely. the republican party can actually snatch disaster from the jaws of victory by passing legislation that would lead them to conference as karl rove would i think prefer in fact, with the senate. because that is nothing more than a game perpetrated on the american people to permit amnesty and open borders. bill: we'll see what they do. thank you. be an interesting month, won't it? >> they are of late, aren't they? good to see you. bill: martha, what is next?

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martha: got a fast-moving wildfire that is threatening to spiral out of control in one of the most beautiful spots in the country. yosemite national park. william la jeunesse live in los angeles. so, william, what is the latest on this fire? >> reporter: well, martha the park is open but visitors are not going to see much. yosemite gets about four million tourists a year, most in summer. right now the areas most people come to see are invisible because of smoke, the main road and several campgrounds are closed. it's a shame for families spent months planning to visit cliffs,

waterfalls and giant ceo -- sequoias yosemite is known for and enough bone dry fuel to burn for days because the drought. martha, back to you. we'll try to get this under control. of course the weather remains rather hot. martha: william, thank you. bill: israel stepping up its assault on hamas overnight. watch here. [explosions] israeli forces taking out the lone power plant in gaza. dire warning about one potential outcome of the fighting between israel and hamas in gaza. lt. general michael flynn, outgoing head of defense intelligence agency saying quote, if hamas is destroyed and gone we would probably end up with something much worse. really? retired four-star general jack keane, chairman of study of war and fox news military analyst.

general, good morning to you. >> good morning, bill. bill: thinking isis or some version of that. what do you think of that comment? >> i don't know what is much worse than what we're dealing with right now. hamas is obviously terrorist organization. it focuses on destroying and killing israeli people. obviously idf soldiers when it can kill or capture them. it is on the high list of terrorist organizations. it manifests all the evil characteristics that you would want in a terrorist organization. so i don't i don't think it is even realistic to be replaced by something else. bill: is clear that hamas is not going away either. we should make that clear now. you think the root of this war exposes something the world is now seeing and that is the strong hand of iran reaching deep into the middle east and reaching deep into gaza and allowing hamas to continue this rocket fire into israel? >> yeah, there's no doubt about that. i mean the iranians strategic

objective when it comes toys rail is to destroy the state of israel. and they use state-sponsored terrorism, proxies to accomplish that objective. we saw that significantly in 2006 with the hezbollah, who we were using, thousands of rockets and missiles and we saw also an invasion into lebanon to deal with the hezbollah. and the israelis did have quite a challenge dealing with that. now we see it, here again, repeatedly by hamas in gaza, doing very same thing. neither one of these countries, neither one of these terrorist organization has the capability to manufacture a single rocket or missile. despite that they have thousands of them. their sponsor is iran and also when it comes to hezbollah, syria has assisted them. they provide them with the rockets. they provide them with the training. they provide them with the technology. and there are thousands of them in that country. and this, this is a crime against humanity and, for some

reason, the united states does not speak out against iran and their state sponsored terrorism at all or at least in any significance. here we are in the discussion with them over nuclear weapons. i guaranty you it is never going to be brought up. bill: what, hezbollah and hamas are never brought up in those talks you don't think? >> no. they're not brought up in those talks because we're seeking a deal and narrowly focused on nuclear weapons and as soon as we bring something like that up, the iranians would say that is not on the table. that is not subject for discussion. and we're going to comply with that request and we have complied with it. we won't speak out about it. bill: that is failure of leadership then if you're not tackling that. >> it absolutely is. it is a failure of leadership in the international community to not speak out against what is truly going on here and who is, this, this conglomerate of the

terrorists in lebanon, hezbollah and also hamas in gaza. and iranians. this collusion that they have is the real issue that israel is facing. and, bill, israel going to continue to face this. they can not destroy this organization in gaza. because they are the people of gaza. they can accomplish some limited military objectives which i believe they will be able to do here. but that's it. bill: jack keane, thank you. >> you're welcome, bill. bill: talk again. martha: irs back in the news. reaching a so-called secret agreement with atheists to target churchings and -- churches and religious groups to investigate their political activity of the as you might have guessed that stirred a bit of political controversy. shannon bream live in washington. how did this so-called secret agreement come to be, shannon? >> reporter: martha, the freedom from religion foundation sued the irs saying it wasn't doing its job making sure that churches that have tax-exempt

status weren't engaging in political activity. i talked with the copresident of that group, dan barker. he says they have reached a deal with the irs underwhich he says he has been assured the irs is going to do more in this arena. he told me churches and pastors have been getting away with too much. >> if churches can get away with that, they become a political action committee that is not accountable. people can start pouring money into churches for political reasons to mobilize the vote. that is just not what the non-profit irs law was intended to do. >> reporter: under this agreement the atheist group can reinstitute the lawsuit against the irs if it believes the agency isn't doing enough to crack down on churches as they have agreed. martha? martha: so do we have any details what the irs is planning when it comes to how they would keep an eye on these churches? would they go into the congregation and listen to what is being said? >> reporter: that is the tricky

part here because the details of this deal are not available to the public. that is why attorneys with alliance defending freedom have filed a freedom of information act request. they say its outrageous that the irs could ramp up some new enforcement plan specifically against churches but the churches can not get any information what is going on. here is the attorney, eric stanley. >> every american ought to fear when the federal government sets up bureaucrats to censor what their pastor can and can not say from the pulpit. pastors in churches might disagree whether they talk about candidates or elections from the pulpit but we all at least can agree it is not the job of the irs to tell them that they can not. let each church make that decision for themselves. >> reporter: we reached out to the irs and they simply told us they can't comment on pending litigation. martha? martha: fascinating. shannon, thank you. bill: so, maybe we're not in command of our golf came -- game, are he, martha.

martha: perhaps not. bill: over the weekened the president obama played congressional country club in maryland. it is supposed to be a terrific course. one of the golfers found one of president's golf balls in the woods. took instagram evidence. tell you what though. been there. done that. you might find a few balls over there with them. martha: never want my golf balls to be identifiable because they would be in the woods all the time. that is pretty good little momento, right? bill: good souvenir. martha: show-and-tell at school in the fall. bill: sure. martha: there is outrage over a protest that happened in washington. [shouting] martha: illegal immigrants, according to the reports, outside of the white house, protesting and there are no repercussions apparently. fair and balanced debate whether or not that should be allowed to happen straight ahead. bill: a popular dating website

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bill: breaking news now. relevant to benghazi. in interview with fox news and catherine herridge moments ago, the chairman of the select committee, trey gowdy, anticipates a first opening hearing will take place in september. asked whether he or not he will call hillary clinton among others gowdy, with anticipation he it to be contacted by the committee expect they will be contacted. breaking news will be updated throughout the day. martha: protests outside of the white house which of course are not unusual but this particular one, kind of was.

[shouting] >> downtown, with deportation. up, with liberation. martha: this is protest of illegal immigrants, demonstrating just outside of the gates of the white house with no repercussions and no fear they might be taken back to where they came from. here now, david webb, host of the david webb show on siriusxm patriot channel and fox news contributor. emily sussman, campaign director of americans for progress action fund. emily, are you okay with this. >> absolutely. they want to be american and there is nothing more american than criticizing the government and asking them to take action. look, president obama gave speaker boehner and asked president obama for two years for congress to take action on comprehensive immigration reform. the senate passed bipartisan bill and president gave speaker boehner two years. i will not act on executive actions to give congress the time to pass serious immigration

reform. now it is clear that immigration is dead through congress, activists turned their attention toward the president saying it is time to act. martha: david, i, i don't know, you know, i mean i think, if you're living in this country illegally, you might be nervous about being so forward and protesting in front of the white house for fear that you could potentially be arrested? that you could be sent back? i mean, i think that would be expected, would it not? >> not with this administration, martha. but before i get to that in a second, let's listen to what emily just said. they said it. they want to be americans. they're illegal aliens protesting in front of the white house. martha: right. >> by the way she is wrong about something. president obama had congress in his first term. he had the nancy pelosi congress. they passed obamacare. they could have voted in immigration reform and the republicans could not have done anything about it. what we have now is a lawless administration when it comes to enforcing federal law.

eric holder and doj who will not do it of the we have sank airy cities. actually we have refuge cities like oakland, new york and other major cities, that are losing their budgets, that are losing their economic security also because of this much. and they won't enforce federal law. by the way, when they give us the false excuse of resources. fact since bush presidency with training and program started heavily in the early 2000 years they could train local law enforcement who are trained and would work with i.c.e. and dhs as agents with the federal government. so the failure is all around on this. martha: take a look at this. "the washington times" reports that one of the things that they're protesting about is that these illegal immigrants want immigration groups to boycott any administration meeting that does not include illegal immigrants to come in and sit at the table to help negotiate our immigration policies. we also know, emily, one of the

things they want is you know, we allowed kids who had been brought here under the age of 16 to stay. they want parents who brought them here to also be allowed to stay. what do you think? >> yeah. look they want to be at table. they want to be part of the conversation. these kid in particular have come here at young age. all they know is the u.s. they grew up here. only country they know. they want to be part of a discussion in a comprehensive immigration package. look, we should be looking at every aspect of this. it is not like border security is not part of the conversation. it is part of the conversation. but when legislation is dead, like when it is no longer moving through congress, you can't just ignore these people are here. we do have to take action and do it in a way that acknowledges their humanity. the program that -- >> this is about law not humanity. come on. >> absolutely. >> so many people would love to get into this country legally going through proper channels because they want to do it correctly and these folks are

just flouting that in their face by standing in front of the white house and protesting with absolutely no fear that there will be any repercussion. david, will give you one final thought. i'm already late. >> it is ridiculous. would you invite the person who squats in your house to stay on meeting whether they could stay or not? no you deal with it in a lawful manner. five million matters here. the state department says there are five million people in the pipeline to come lear legally. henry gutierrez, congressman gutierrez says yesterday, that with the president's actions we could legalize five million illegal aliens. five million people waiting legally. five million people they want to do it. this is what emmill supports and left supports. martha: thanks for being with us today. >> good to see you, martha. >> all right. take a good look at this picture. can you guess where this was taken? red dirt, spacesuits? that looks like something under the christmas tree. looks like the surface of mars right? but it is not. martha: shake it up with snow in

there? bill: might. earth bound experiment that could lead us to mars. martha: i like that. want to go to the red planet. bill: off we go. ♪

bill: not a galaxy far, far away but it is hawaii. six volunteer crewmembers of the mars habitat wrapping up a month of research in mock mars base. they were in there four months on the slopes on the big island of volcano. dr. ronald williams was one of volunteers at mock base. doctor, how are you? i want to start with you. you're in there a month. you got sick for a little bit. you left but went back again. what did you learn?

what did you experience? what do you want us to understand about that experience? >> well i was there for the first month of the mission and because of some health reasons that arose it was wisest for me to leave. i went back, basically to welcome the crew back to earth so to speak and to join up with them again. a lot of things were learned. i kept in contact with the crew while i was back home, back on earth. and, learned a lot of things. one of the crewmembers, the commander, commander stedman, continued the research that i had started there, my individual research on psychological adjustment in confinement like this. bill: hmmm. i read a quote here from one of those inside. i haven't seen a tree or smelled the rain or heard a bird or felt wind on my skin in four months. did you get that sensation in i guess we're wondering here, how close to a mars experience can you get on a volcano in hawaii

at 8,000 feet? >> well, i'll tell you what, the terrain around there is very marchs-like. and -- mars-like. i think it was very good analog simulation. probably closest thing we can come to mars on this planet. i think these kind of analog simulations are absolutely essential for space exploration. we need to simulate things before we go into the more dangerous environment of space itself. bill: i could see that, doctor. you're right about that. to cory powell in sued yo how real to mars could that experience do you believe? >> there was similar training experience that went on with apollo. apollo was much shorter time scale. this was four-month mission. this will be follow-up hi-seas mission, which is duration of entire trip to mars. for better or worse we're still so far away from the real actual nasa mission to mars we have a lot of time to train. it is great we're learning all the extra things. i think there is sort of anxiety, okay, we're learning a

lot. now we would like to go and do it. bill: it looks cool but you're a long way away, right? >> well, let's be clear, this is a very tough mission. nine months in confined space. just on this test mission they had power interruptions. they had communications interruptions. here is guy with serious health issue. that happens on a mars mission, there is no way to go away too. bill: excellent point about apollo. didn't know that. cory, thanks for copping in. dr. ronald williams. thank you, sir. congratulations to you and other team members out of fort wayne, indiana. martha, to you. martha: with fighting raging in eastern ukraine, new accusations that russia violated landmark arms control treaty using the conflict to launch a crews missile from the ground. what happens now and how will president obama react?

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martha: telling some people they were a good match even if they weren't. turns out people were likely to exchange messages if they were compatible regardless if their personality profile. some were probably not okay. they like each other. bill: we have to run everybody. have a great day. jenna: we start off today fighting intensifies in eastern ukraine with deadly shelling in the main rebel strongholds. hello, hope you're off to a great day, i'm jenna lee. jon: good to have you back. jenna: thank you. jon: i'm jon scott. as the european union weighs tougher sanctions against russia which could restrict access to financial markets. there is more bloodshed in ukraine. death to rising as rebels hit an old age home, a school and apartment building, with unconfirmed reports that pro-russian separatist it is fighters are using children as human shields. heavy fighting sprea