is abandoning israel or not? also vote in our poll there. also stephen a. smith's poll full apology is on gretawire. to night on "red eye." >> coming up on "red eye," are senior citizens the most dangerous people on the planet? shocking new evidence suggests the old lady down the street could beat the crap out of you at any moment. plus, how does the vice president really feel about women voting? >> it is outrageous. w45* in the hell are -- what in the hell are we doing? >> this is not chauvinist. i am not being pho -- facicoious jie. and we will look at what the mainstream media hasn't considered. >> and now let's welcome our guests. well she was asked to be the next batch law are the, but

she declined. she has four kinds of hepititis. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky. >> no, i don't. >> and he was asked to be the next bachelor until he realized he would have to leave his apartment and talk to people. and a first time guest, charles cook. and we first met as interns at santa's workshop. he is the host of the new show on vice called, get this, "the jim norton show." yipee. >> thank you. >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> kind of miss that thing that happens now, now that it doesn't happen anymore. oh well. steven is leavin, at least for a week. steven a smith will not appear for a week in the wake of comments he made on friday regarding the two-day

suspension of baltimore raven ray rice for assaulting his girlfriend. while smith made it clear there was no reason for a man on hit a woman, he said women needed to do their part to make sure they were not beaten up. he told female members of his family, quote, let's make sure not to do anything to provoke wrong actions. smith apologized calling it the most egregious error of his career, but it didn't stop "the view"'s whoopi goldburg from fed didding him. >> if you somebody you cannot be sure you will not get hit back. teach women do not live with this idea that men have a chivalry thing with them and don't assume it is still in place. don't be surprised if you hit a man and he hits you back. if you make the choice as a woman who is 4 foot 3 and you decide to hit a guy who is 6 foot tall and you are the last thing he wants to deal with

that day and he hits you back, you cannot be surprised. >> it did the not stop espn from suspending smith saying it does not reflect the company's view point or values. view you you -- viewers at home were just as surprised with her comments. >> don't be surprised if you hit a man and he hits you back. if you make the choice as a woman who is 4 foot 3 and you decide to hit a guy who is 6 foot tall and you are the last thing he wants to deal with that day and he hits you back, you cannot be surprised. >> the poor terrified cat. a two-part question. i am gleeing -- guessing smith should have been suspended. >> absolutely. this is no place for talk like that. >> they don't they'd this stuff. you obviously find this strange that he apologized. >> if it was anyone but espn i would be surprised.

they are the worst -- this guy was trying to say something -- he wasn't saying it in the idea of well hey if you wear a short skirt you deserve it. that's an idiotic thing. what he was saying it is in the tone of whoopi, by provoking it, it is a word that gets people angry, but he didn't mean don't back talk the man. he was saying don't strike somebody who will strike you back. when she was kicking jay-z she was provoking him and kicking him with heels. there is a difference between those things. espn knows difference and they suspend him anyway. >> what about whoopi's comments? i don't think whap pea gives a [bleep] about anything. she is worth $150 million so she says what is on her mind. >> maybe, but she is 100% right. you can't hit somebody and expect them not to hit you back. i like the fact that where are all of the players and the nba players that wouldn't play if donald sterling stayed in the

league? where are all of the players who say ray rice needs to be punished properly. >> welcome to the program first timer. did you think espn had to do this whether they wanted to or not? >> i wish they hadn't done it. it is a horrible mentality. if you say something bad, and we will all do it, especially here. if you say something bad they don't want just want an uh poll scree they want you to pay for it, your job or financially. brendan ike, they didn't want him just to say sorry, but they wanted him fired and to pay money. you look at espn and it would have been a blow for -- if they had not suspended him and said look he apologized, but they weren't going to do that because they have a business to run. >> and there is a lot of people with free time on their hands looking for the scalp of contrition. even if you say i'm sorry and even if they know your intent

was not to encourage harm they have to do it because that is our leisurely activities. joanne, you follow sports closely. do you think smith's apology was sincere and do you think they should have suspended him? and the third part of the question, what about whoopi? i want you to answer those in that order. >> i already forgot. it was a long day. i think smith's apology was sincere. he realized as soon as he did it. he was apologizing because he realized he would be suspended or possibly fired. he said this has been the biggest mistake of my career. that's sincere. i forget the other -- what is nuts to me is people are punished more for the words they say than the actions they do. look a at donald sterling and everything that has happened with him and being forced to sell his team. and then a player who actually hits a woman and knocks her unconscious and has what a lot of people considered to be a

punishment that is not very severe. it is good to have this conversation, but i think we are living in a world where words hurt more and people are more offended by them than actions. >> it goes back to mr. cumio who lost his job for words, although he was hit in the face. >> he got punched and he didn't punch this woman back and didn't draw his weapon, but he said mean things on twitter. >> you can't do that. >> you can't. >> oh please. i was all for it. i called for them to fire him immediately. >> it sucks he lost his job and also that you are dating the woman that now punched him. >> i said go over and say hi to anthony. >> what do you make of this? apply your reasoning values and stuff. >> do i have to? >> no. >> to me the steven a smith suspension is beside the point. ray rice knocked out his girlfriend and physically dragged her unconscious body out of an elevator and got a

two-game suspension from the nl. from the nfl. that's straight up insane. >> what -- i don't know what happened in that elevator. >> i have a friend who is a cop in atlantic city and she texted me this morning and apparently there may booy a videotape of something that happened on the elevator. it might be that maybe he handled it improperly, but not as improperly as you think. >> there may have been a tustle. >> there may have been something that happened. >> care to retract everything you said in. >> not a word. >> i don't know what steven a was trying to say. he might have been saying what you think he was. his apology seemed heart felt, but he was apologizing saying i didn't articulate my position well. he never said what the actual position was. >> he would have had to apologized again. >> i agree with that. >> two-week suspension. >> that's the point. the people who put pressure on those who are don't want them to explain their position.

they don't want to know the position. they want to see them saying they are sorry. it is a midevil, religious right. say they words and you will be saved. they don't want an argument and for him to come around and change a his mind. >> it is like the drowning thing except if you don't admit it you are guilty. if you drowned you are innocent. >> the thing we are not doing is dragging people through the street and setting them on fire. we gang up on twitter. we are still the same that we were 500 years ago. we just don't do it with sticks anymore. >> but it is an improvement. i would rather get yelled at on twitter rather than dragged through the streets. >> espn is saying good for -- steven a apologized and we believe his apology was sincere. then what are you suspending him for? >> why did you bother apologizing? >> it is that or put him in

the stocks. it is the same catharsis. >> and they are worried about losing advertising. there are three things. what you said before, we are all getting suspended. at some point we all will. just get ready for it. it will be about race,sexim and homophobe yaw. >> you can't say anything that allows for interpretation of intent. >> but even if they know the intent it doesn't matter. she said we know what his intent was, but we want him fired anyway. >> how about using the ethnic slur about asians. they got the apology, but still wanted him fired. >> everyone sucks. that's the new title of our show, welcome to everyone sucks. the bachelorette was let to fret thanks to a guy named nick and his can dore. "the bachelorette" season finale aired and andy dorfman

chose josh over nick. an audible gasp was heard around the world or at least in my basement jacuzzi when they dropped this bomb doctoring the after -- during the after show. >> knowing how in love with you i was, if you weren't in love with me -- i am just not sure why -- why you made love with me. >> well first of all i think kind of below the belt and something that should have been kept private. >> kept private even though she was on television. >> did nick get the closure he needed?

we caught up with him back

>> why did you make love to me? that is the woman's line. why is he giving the woman's line. put on cold play and get in the tub and you will be fine. and are you on a reality show. you are looking for a mate on a reality show and you get sad because sex does president -- doesn't equal love on a reality show? what is this? >> the look on her face made the whole show. that was the best part of the entire series was the look of like i can't believe you did that. i believe these matches end in success because you are matching them with one thing in common, the desire for fame. that's what they want. if two people go on that show chances are they will get along. >> you know what would have made this show better? the reaction on her stupid boyfriend's face in the back knowing he kissed her that night. >> that's so true. they screwed up. they should have an after, after show. any other thoughts on this before i move on? >> there are too many. you can move on. they prefer bearing breasts to bearing arms. i speak of topless protesters

who came face to chest with demonstrators at an open carry gun rally. the group, come and take it, texas, filmed with the braless duo who had signs reading "more boobs, less guns" and" only guns bring death." >> my brother and daddy have more than enough sense not to parade them downtown austin. that is my point. >> so it is the mere sight of this? >> we don't need to have it in public. >> did you know one in 10 texans have a handgun on them concealed. >> then that's fine. keep it concealed. >> it is the sight that is -- >> i don't want to argue. >> i am trying to understand your point here. is it the sight? >> more boobs and less guns. >> the blur has done heroic work today. boobs for peace, the slogan we can all get behind. we should mention the female toplessness is legal in the

lone star steat. state. meanwhile, my hobbies continue to be frowned upon. >> burn a lot of calories there. jim, you seem stunned by all of this. >> i was surprised to see truman caw -- capoti topless. i think as a man anytime a woman is topless protesting you have to take her side. i don't care if they are protesting my show. >> it is kind of heroic they would make that -- basically you are strapped and they are strapless. what do you make of this? >> i originally read it so i had two experiences with this. i read it and i thought what threat is that a? do what we want or we will take our tops off and walk around you. most libertarian men are saying okay. i am imagining the charl ton,

south carolina cheerleading squad. and then i watched the video and now i understand the threat. i am a big gun guy. they are both showing off. >> exactly. what do you think, joanne? topless protesting, does it take away from the message you are conveying? >> no. take off the pants as well. why stop at the shirt? you are trying to make a message, then do it. i understand why people like to carry and have it be seen. it is empower meant for a lot of people. but taking off your top leaves you more vulnerable. sunburns, mosquito bite. >> what if you take off your top cnd carry? >> well then there is less options as to hold -- i mean pants, assuming you are wearing them. >> you need a shoulder holster. >> but the chafing. >> a little talc. >> speaking of a little talc, there were only two women so

was that really a protest? >> is it okay if i don't like anyone involved in this story? guys put your guns away and ladies put your boobs away. >> you are slut shaming. >> how about more boobs and fewer guns? more boobs and less grammar i guess. >> thank you. that is the real sin here. >> that's the story. >> all right, coming up, this and that with an emphasis on that. first, a white person teaching cultural studies? why not they steal everyone else's jobs. female announcer: you're on the right track to save big

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that's the opinion of some community leaders in fresno, they have them there. california actually is not happy a middle school chose a white man to teach cultural studies classes. that's right, a white man. peter beck was brought on to teach african-american, latino and southeast asian to the students and that angered reverend crozier who said we didn't fight for a white male or female teacher to educate our babies. a school district spokesman says beck has many years experience teaching this stuff, and a district trusty who is black says he supports the hiring saying, quote, i don't believe colorism trumps qualification. i don't care whether it is white, black, brown or yellow. obviously this is the subject of the special edition of --

>> as always to help out in this discussion we brought in a studio panel audience. thank you for joining us. first a show of hands. how many people find me unbearably attractive? that's great. i usually get half and half. all right, charles, do the community leaders have a point or should it just be the best person for the job? >> who ever they want. you don't have to have the best person. racism is really bad and america has had a racist history so we need to segregate teachers. we didn't fight the civil rights movements to have mixed race schools. i love that the defense was, well he is qualified. what if he wasn't? would that be a case a? we can have a single-race schools providing that people are not good at their job? >> it makes no sense. if you had parachuted into fresno which sometimes you do, how would you solve this problem? >> i applied for this job, greg.

the fact that i dropped out of high school made me a less likely candidate. i think white people should be teaching cultural studies and black people shouldn't teach swimming. sorry, i didn't mean to go over it. >> i don't know what it meant. why go over my head? >> let's talk about the press. i only heard about it here. that's pretty consistant. if you had a white preacher saying we don't want the black teach inert white school i'm sure the media would ignore that. >> aren't the community leaders basically saying the guy has been teaching the subject for years and somehow isn't qualified because of his skin color? isn't that awesome? >> well that's exactly what they just said. >> i just rephrased it as a question. >> it is awesome for them and their point, but not for the children. they said they are doing it for their babies, but babies

don't learn. they don't take cultural classes. these are children. what are you trying to teach these kids that you should deny them their job because of the race? that's a great lesson to teach these kids in the minority communities. i think these protesters are the ones who need the chorus. >> that was sarcasm. >> good, i am kidding. explain why peter beck shouldn't have been hired. >> i have a new book out. can we put that up? i actually discussed situations like this. have i a chapter called black, brown and asian shouldn't listen to the caucasian. they cover situations like this. make sure to buy that when they come out. there is an argument to be made for things like ethnic studies to be taught by whatever ethnicity is being studied. that said, none of these protesters pointed to someone of color who was

similarly qualified as the white dude. also, does anyone else get the sense this is protested by four people? this is four people claiming to speak for a bunch of other people. >> there were a few more off camera. >> topless women were not there. >> i feel like without the media this is not a story. >> the press wasn't going to cover it except fox. they just ignore it. it is odd. they don't take this woman because she is black and saying something the white press does not take her seriously enough to consider her racist. with a white guy they would say he means something, so let's listen to what he has to say and criticize it. >> it is the power relationship as well. if it were a white person doing this they would be wrong because the superior power structure or whatever, whatever you call it. >> it is just white people are uncomfortable to discuss race. they are afraid they will say something that shows they are

racist. >> you don't have that fear. >> not at all. >> i agree with charles. >> i want to be agreed with. >> she said we didn't fight the white man can teach our babies. the whole point was to integrate the schools and having white teachers teaching white kids and black teachers teaching black kids. >> and the idea you only learn from somebody who is like you and that's a weird idea. my kids will be in trouble. the chance of a half british and half italian and irish teacher is rare. >> and where do you find a woman with a beard? >> as long as she is qualified i am fine with it. coming up, a new solution to marriage. i hope it involves funyons. i love funyons. first, a word from our sponsor. tonight's sponsor is the only movie you will see all year. if you see this movie it is

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they have interesting views when it comes to i do's. a new survey, my favorite kind, finds 43% of millenials

would support a marriage involving a two-year trial period at which point it could be formalized or dissolved with no paperwork required. 36% of the 18 to 30 faff-year-old -- 34-year-olds would like to try a real estate approach where marriage licenses would be five, seven, ten or 30-year deals after which the terms would be renegotiated. 21% preferred the presidential method. you lie to your spouse you weren't born in kenya. that was really specific. i want to go to the only mill -- millenial on the panel. charles? he is not really a millenial. are you married by the way? >> i will be in three three. but we have a five-year term. >> what is the apr. >> no, i don't like it, but it is just dating. what cracked me up was the line that said

millenials are not scared of commitment, but we are doing commitment more wisely. no, you are scared. >> i saw that movie. i also read the book. >> this is a generation that wants to trade in when they can trade in and get something better. >> i agree. it should be two hours in time increments. how many people do you need to see get ruined in divorces and be miserable with somebody they hate in 30 years to go, wow, this is a dumb idea? >> i hear somebody applauding. >> it is an obsession with an old idea. it started when men needed virgins virgins and they had vaw -- vernarial disease. everybody hates marriage by the age of 60. nobody is happily married. it is like two tumors.

i never heard anybody say more sex than ever. this rules. >> there are tradeoffs. >> like what? >> i can't think of any. but there are tradeoffs. >> this is where my brain goes dead. joanne, that was romantic. what do you make of this? >> i am never going to date a guy who leases cars. our marriage will be a contract. your marriage is not supposed to be there. find a person you can't live without and marry them. if you can't find that person, don't get married. why would you even want to go into debt with this whole big celebration and like merge the family? it is messy. >> it is very messy. what do you do with the wedding albums? where do all of the wedding albums go? >> revenge porn. they go to poor children in africa. >> not everyone's albums are filled with those photos.

>> wedding albums should be. >> that's why you will never be married. and jim, you are married to yourself. how long will that last? >> 15 minutes at a time. >> probably a longtime. >> i agree. i remember when this was called living together. why don't they call it living together? jim's idea of two hours and i shorten it to one. you take it in increments. >> i have to say who got in a bit of trouble was geraldo. you know what he said? it is not fair to women because two years for a young woman is different than two years for men. >> he is 100% right. >> the most important thing a woman has is youth. say a guy is 27 and a woman is 27 and they do a two-year thing and he is 29 and she is 29. but then there is a guy who is 31 who will be looking at the 25-year-old.

men is status and women is youth. >> you can say i dated women in their 30s and they want to have babies. believe me, they are not looking at me going i have to have his. i am a last resort. the clock is ticking. there is no woman after having sex with me happily. it was like, oh right. >> you have a beautiful way of looking at romance. speaking of, should your ma not go fa? deputy's prime minister thinks a woman's laugh is a gaff. in a speech on monday lashed out at moral corruption is a man should be moral, but a woman should be moral as well. they know what is decent and not be decent. she should not laugh loudly in front of all of the world and should preserve her decency at

all times. she is not a fan of women talking on cell phones saying women give meal recipes. what else is going on? when is the wedding? he made interesting points. you are nodding in agreement. >> he is either the bravest man in the world or the least funny. if she won't laugh nobody will laugh. his opponent in the political realm immediately came out and said he was the pro women laughing candidate which is such a politician thing to do. >> i am for the laughing. jim, wouldn't it be great if women didn't laugh at your shows ? >> i like women to laugh at my shows. men are easy to make laugh as a a whole. >> don't men when they laugh --

>> they do the -- >> they don't make noises. >> women who drink when they laugh, it is annoying. >> if they are drinking and laughing and having fun, it is fine. >> all of this is wrong? drinking, laughing? >> listen, that's what i love about america. i can do all of these things and i take it for granted. the next time i laugh really loud i will say thanks to turkey. people are upset because it is ruling on morality and turkey. there is a separation of government and they see it as government cover stepping their boundaries and religious freedoms are being sacrificed there. >> i think it is a bad thing. i think it is a bad thing he

is saying women can't laugh. a world without women's laughter is not a world he would live in. >> that happens to be the title of my up coming book. there is a chapter called hey girl, give laughter a whirl which covers these issues. they may want to read it. >> but between this guy and you have had head of the country saying they have surpassed what hitler did. this country is disgusting. they should take the time to admit they committed genocide against the armenians. >> they used to be a good country. >> for six weeks. >> it looked like they would be an ally, right? >> i think that is the dictator caprice. israel is worse than the nazis and then everybody sat and staired at him. ban all laughter.

that's done. >> i think the thing with this guy is he tells jokes and nobody laughs. he figures if he bans laughter nobody can tell nobody is laughing at his jokes. >> the paul mccurio of laughter. >> i am big in turkey. >> they do. no alcohol though. how do you go to a comedy show without alcohol? >> i don't drink so i prefer it. >> i guess it is good because they are on a different level. >> alcohol helps, but after the second show it sucks. they are loud and awful. >> i am sitting right here. >> i love it when you go to comedy clubs with your friends, just the girls. >> it is so much fun. and we don't tip anyone. we have to take a break, but don't think of leaving me now. scientists conducting

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admitted to messing with your love life in a blog post called we experiment on human beings. the users are bad matches to highly compatible and test reactions. those lied to were more likely to send an initial message and more likely to continue the conversation. i am already confused. but i guess what they are saying is they pretended you guys got along. the site's founder says, quote, when we tell people they are a good match they act as if they are. even when they are wrong aor each other. it has lead to some backlash on the internet. an internet ethics professor says, quote, they are messing with emotions and communications as if that is wrong. andy, do you write this? >> no. >> can you explain what happened? >> no. >> i won't ask you what happened . >> is what they did wrong? >> i am on ok cupid so it

explains a lot. >> are you really? >> no. it made people look like they are compatible or not. and people who were supposed to be compatible didn't communicate enough and so the whole then was a lie and it sucks. what they are going to do is take a poll after. they say they were compatible. >> i wondered if this was brilliant. they are basically saying it doesn't matter what you say. if you look at a picture, you are -- it doesn't matter -- like compatibility and personality x people are not looking for that. >> they had a high tolerance. there was a funny story of this woman who put a a -- a hot photograph up of a friend. they said can i borrow money? can i hit you? fine. can i push you off a cliff into a shark tank a? fine, let's just meet up. i don't think the people by ok

cupid will be bothered. they just want sex. >> no, no, people want love and meaningful relationships. of course a man would say that. >> joanne have you used dating sites? >> heck no. i don't want people to just want me for sex, come on. i understand why people are upset. no one likes feeling duped and they may have missed out on the love of their life. it told us what we wanted to know. they are told they are compatible. like jim said they maybe could have taken a poll. is this evidence that life is better if you lie? >> no. i think this is deplorable. they keep saying this leads to improvement in the site. that might be true, but you

have people who sign up for this site because they tout their compatibility rankings and they make them up. it sounds like fraud to me. the co-founder said okcupid doesn't know what he is doing. sign me up. they show some of the data and if they rank people it is 90% compatible. their actual compatibility is 20%. again, oh, sign me up. why is anyone on this site? i don't know. maybe they are lonely, andy. think about that. >> that's not it. >> coming up, beautiful people. if you haven't had enough, do you enjoy videos of animals? send them to us. female announcer: right now, at sleep train,

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youngest in a rest home. "the hill" a newspaper and not the raised area of land. it published the list of the 50 most people on capitol hill. among selected, him. white house press expect,oñ josh ernest and this guy. and former "red eye" guest rafi williams and our own brett bier. you know he is on week nights? and this guy, a stoner. some women made the list. jim before we get into this topic when is your next vice show? >> it comes out tomorrow, wednesday. >> it is a delightful show and you do a good job. let me ask you about this. were you surprised by anyone on the list? i knew you followed dc politics. >> i am a tippa o'neil guy. >> he is dead. >> i know he passed away. i am saying he to me is the

befn mark of what a guy is supposed to look like. o'neil looked like a politician. they go to the gym, charles. everyone works out. >> you must have an incredibly low list to be scouring dead guys. o'neil's nose just got bigger and bigger and bigger until it killed him. >> but he had a beautiful face. they go and pump iron for two hours. that's wrong. >> yes. >> what does that mean? >> when they interviewed everyone they did a bio and they put relationship status for each one. for that i would like to say thank you. >> it cut your stocking time in half. >> i can go to twitter and take care of that. >> to the people on this list it matters to them. they will have it in their bag. >> there are maybe seven good

looking people on this list. also men in dc are much better looking than women. >> that's so sexist. >> they i can ped -- they picked the people. i call them as i see them. >> what a bunch of haters. i would love to be on this list. >> i have never been on a list. i have been on that one list. >> i had to move three times. >> i can't do any halloween activity. that's not candy! wire done here -- we are done here. 30 seconds? well let's talk about something else. >> okay. >> let's just stair. >> i like your show with mike tyson and dana white. they are fun. >> i like your co-host. >> bailey j.

>> what a delight she is. >> you can check her out. that does it for me. i'm greg gutfeld. see you next time.

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