read. before we go, a happy 29th birthday to major general bob scales. see you monday at 7:00 p.m. good night from washington, d.c. go to gretawire. tonight, over 100 miles from baghdad. and what's the president doing? taking a nap. >> republicans angry that iraq is falling apart and it does look like the obama administration was caught by surprise again. we'll have "no spin" analysis. >> when was the president first made aware about these problems? >> we learned about them through the reports. >> once again, president obama learns about a scandal through the news media. are things getting out of control? senators will weigh in.

illegal immigration and the children who are suffering because of it is not a laughing matter. new polling says americans are outraged. we'll tell you who they are blaming. caution, you are entering the "no spin zone." "the factor" begins right now. hi, i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. back in the 19th century, there was an american political group known as the no-nothings because they were secretive and pretty much ineffective. today we have a do-nothing government in washington. our elected officials generally sit around and say, they'll get to the bottom of it. they'll get to the bottom of everything, claiming their working around the clock.

when putin invaded, america was caught by surprise. when the va scandal broke in arizona, the administration was caught by surprise. when thousands of childrens started illegally walking across the southern border, there was surprise in washington. now with iraq on the verge of collapse, guess what? they're caught by surprise. >> my team is working around the clock to identify how we can provide the most effective assistance to them. i don't rule out anything. >> critics of the president say he has known for months that iraq was in danger. >> it's not like we haven't seen this problem coming for over a year. and it hasn't -- it's not like we haven't seen over the last five or six months these terrorists moving in, taking

control of western iraq. they are 100 miles from baghdad. what's the president doing? taking a nap. >> even though that's a partisan statement, president obama does appear disengaged from vital problems all over the world. seems like american voters are starting to understand that. does president obama manage government effectively? 34% say yes. let me put that number into perspective for you. 34% of americans will approve of whatever barack obama does. it doesn't matter to them. they just like him and that's that. he's getting a no confidence vote from every other person in the country. that's amazing. talking points has been very

consistent over the past 18 years. i don't care about party politics. i want problem solvers in washington and in our state capitals. i want honest people who will think about creative solutions to vexing situations. i have nothing personally against barack obama. he's helped us raise a lot of money for wounded warriors. i support some of his programs like mentoring poor children. but there is no point in history that president obama is not effectively running the country. obama needs to fire his crew and get some experienced people to advise him on vital issues. again, 65% of american adults believe the president is not an effective problem-solver. boy, do we have problems. now for our top story tonight. am i being too harsh on the

president? >> a little bit. he's not responsible for every single thing that's gone bad. iraq, you know, yes. he probably should have been on top of this sooner. i'll give you one quick example. from day one of this administration, the president handed the iraq account to vice president biden. who made the call? not the president of the united states. it was vice president biden. >> you said that i'm being too harsh. >> because you're painting this picture that everything he's touched has just fallen apart. >> did i not back it up? va scandal, caught by surprise? >> va officials now about it. he didn't. >> where am i being too harsh? everything i've said is true.

>> it's not like he's sitting in washington doing nothing. >> these are major issues. these are big, big issues. i'm saying he hasn't done anything on any of them. you agree and then you say i'm being too harsh. >> he could probably do more, but you're painting a picture he's done absolutely nothing. >> what has he done on those issues? >> on the va scandal, yes. after the fact, he started cleaning house. this has been building for years and years. >> on iraq? >> the prime minister has been letting the sectarian violence build out of control. >> he informs the american people this is going south. he might use air power. that's possible. he doesn't know what to do. why doesn't he know? henry, let me ask you this. this is what a leader does. this is what a leader does.

leader anticipates problems and then when they happen, has a plan immediately that he can go to. if they don't happen, he doesn't have to go to them. that's what george washington did, abraham lincoln did, fdr did. they anticipate things happen. they are warned they could happen. obama was warned iraq could go south. what's his plan? >> could he have done more? absolutely. what are you going to do with putin? are you going to go to war with russia? >> i told you what to do with putin. i'm going to educate you again. he's a young guy, henry. what i said is what they should have done. visa, mastercard, american express, do not accept receipts from russia. you do it again, that's what's

going to happen again. that's a solution to a problem. iraq, i don't know whether i would use air power, but i probably would. if i'm sitting in the oval offic office, i have that plan already in effect. >> the pentagon does have these plans. you're making it like the president has no idea what to do. he has these plans. my question is he decisive enough. >> in syria, you have an example where he didn't move forward. you've been to iraq, right? >> i have not been to iraq. >> i have. you have your planes up. your bombing the hell out of them before they come into mosul. you're saying to the iraqi army, hey, we'll help you. >> did you see the iraqi army running for their lives? >> you know why?

because they know they have no support from anyone. >> what are they going to do? >> i don't know. is there anything wrong killing with these al qaedas? >> no. >> you can see them. our drones know where they are. send them in from kuwait and sa saudi arabia and knock them out. >> if you want to talk about more serious military intervention -- >> kill as many of these al qaedans that you can kill. that's the plan that should have been there, but it isn't. you know why? because it's not there. >> he said give him a few days. we'll see. >> i know it's your job to have a rapport.

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now we have nearly 50,000 children who have entered the country illegally in the last five months. >> does this demonstrate some sort of loophole? young minors arriving in the u.s. >> they are going through the immigration process to determine how to return them to their home countries or to otherwise handle their immigration status. >> here now to comment is mr. dobbs. this is almost like for you shooting ducks in a little baby

pool. it's not even fair. >> thank you for setting me up. >> first of all, were you aware of this entry by tens of thousands of children? did you know it was happening? >> i'm embarrassed to say that i may have known about it before the president. no one is being sent back. and each of those children, most of whom are 12 years or younger unaccompanied by adults, they are being sent off to three military bases that are being set up to accommodate them. 90-some odd other centers that are going to be handling them. this year somewhere around 90,000 unaccompanied children. next year, the number is likely to rise in total to a quarter of a million. >> in central america, the media is telling the folks if they come to the united states now, because of the dream act and some of the other things that have been proposed, they'll be able to stay.

the people smugglers, the human smugglers, which take the children out of their villages and shepherd them through mexico, they're making a ton of money. >> we have to be careful here. this is not simply the cartels and human smugglers. the administration has been accused of orchestrating this. >> why would they want this to happen? >> what is happening is this is taking u.s. border patrol agents, moving them from -- >> away from the border into -- >> even a reduced rate. they're now nursing children. >> administrative tasks. but listen --

>> the cartels are in control of our border. >> i understand. let's get back to your statement the obama administration wants this to happen. this wipes out any immigration reform that the president wants to have. you really believe the president wants all these children to come in here. >> i believe there is an absolute league amongst the governments of el salvador, guatema guatemala, and honduras. we're talking about children who are being moved from 1800 miles away all the way up through the center of mexico to our southern border. if we were concerned about a humanitarian crisis, why aren't we shipping aide down there to these people? >> because it would be stolen.

it's very provocative. america's outrage over the border. >> it is long past time for washington to secure the border. we've been lied to for years and both parties are responsible. the main culprit for the disaster is president obama. it is up to him to fix the problem. >> later, senator marco rubio has a solution. >> i never would have signed an executive order granting a deferred action for those in the country illegally. >> we'll be right back. and this is the best time for big savings at bass pro shops' fall hunting classic. check out our free hunting university this weekend. plus all the latest gear at the season's lowest prices. ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning.

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well, the initial data is in. more than a thousand adults have been asked this question. what do you think is the most important problem facing this country today? 17% say immigration/illegal aliens. second is dissatisfaction with government. third, the economy. fourth, unemployment/jobs. and fifth, health care. on that issue, two other polls are out. just 28% of americans approve of the way president obama is handling the border. 56% disapprove. washington post has it 33 approving. 58% disapproving. only 23% say congress is doing a good job solving the immigration mess. a whopping 66% say they are not.

it is long past time for washington to secure the southern border. the latest culprit for the humanitarian disaster is president obama and he needs to solve the problem. 219 of them say the primary reason that people from central america are coming here illegally is they believe they can stay. as we documented yesterday, the border chaos is directly effecting all parts of the usa. some governors are condemning the administration for not informing them before moving illegal aliens into their states. that's atrocious.

>> what are you going to do if these children can't find their parents? are you going to keep them imprisoned in this compound? no answers. >> there's very little leadership coming out of the white house or congress on almost every issue. because of that, america is now drifting into a very dangerous territory. a war may break out in the middle east at any moment. terrorism is on the rise and hundreds of thousands of illegal aliens continue to flow into the country without any consequences. americans have got to make their disenchantment loud and clear by directly senators and representatives and by voting in november. let's throw the bums out. karl rove, no president in our lifetime has been able to secure the southern border.

why not? >> it's tough. some of them have tried. reagan signed a bill that thought it would bring an end to the problem and it didn't. it made things worse. for example, in 2008, there were 4,000 unaccompanied minor children apprehended at the border but there were 8,000 returned back across the border because bush was working on the backlog of people already here. there were nearly 21,000 unaccompanied minors at the border and we returned 9100. it is a tough and thorny problem that requires consistent presidential leadership. >> i know every president, every one since lbj, accountable for not securing that border. >> you have to go back even further than that. john kennedy was the person who put in place the principal in

our immigration laws called family reunification, driven by people in the catholic church for good reason. they put it immigration law. if you have a cousin here or a distant aunt or uncle here, get yourself to the united states and claim family reunification. >> 15% of the entire honduran population lives in the united states. okay. krauthammer on this program said if you built a border fence like they did in east germany -- did you ever see the east german fence? >> i was there for the east german fence. >> nobody could get through that fence. nobody. it was a formidable obstacle.

the israelis have done the same thing to keep terrorists out there. we haven't done that. that's mistake number one. mistake number two is in this current situation in the rio grande valley, you would put national guard there to stop the madness just as you stopped the madness in the rodney king riots and other things. i believe it is political that obama didn't do it. the elder bush didn't do it, the younger didn't do it. clinton didn't do it. >> we put 6,000 national guard on the border. >> temporarily. >> for two years. >> that's true. >> while we added in the process, 6,000 additional border patrol. we didn't take them off until we replaced them. >> that's true. wait, wait. let the folks digest this.

the guard stopped it in other sectors where it was out of control. don't give me this the guard won't work business. where's the wall? >> the guard didn't work then by putting them on the border. >> back up. >> not even that. you put them in the back room so when you brought in somebody and they had to be held in a pin, it wasn't a border patrol guarding them. it was the national guard. >> why isn't there a wall down there? >> the wall in the city of berlin -- >> they have the wall everywhere. >> they had barbed wire. you don't need a wall. >> the wall isn't there because there's no will to put it there by all these presidents. >> we don't necessarily need a wall. we need people on there.

>> we need a wall. >> we need a way to stop them from coming. >> last question. do you believe the republicans will capitalize on this? will this hurt the democrats in november? >> the failure of the president's leadership on this will hurt them. the economy is not good. the president's leadership on the border is appalling. >> karl rove everybody. coming up, is president obama losing his grip? kirsten powers has some thoughts. >> i don't think obama is stepping up with various crises coming up. when i had my first migraine, i was lucky. that sounds crazy, i know. but my mom got migraines, so she knew this would help. excedrin migraine starts to relieve my pain in 30 minutes.

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is president obama losing his grip? that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. according to the washington times, the obama administration was told in 2008 there was big problems with the va.

that was 5 1/2 years ago. now the va scandal has broken big. >> when was the president first made aware of these problems, these fraudulent lists being kept to hide the wait times? >> i believe out of phoenix we learned about them through the reports. >> that's troubling. the republican party put out an e-mail today listing all the time a president has learned of important events through the media. president obama learned of the irs targeting conservative groups through news reports. president didn't know about fast and furious until he saw it in the media. mr. obama did not know the nsa was spying on german leader m k

murkel. seems the president and his advisers are the last to know about major problems. this va thing is huge. my pal jon stewart put it this way. >> here's what disgusts me. somehow we as a country were able to shift 300,000 troops half way across the world in just a few months to fight a war that cost us $2 trillion, yet for some reason it takes longer than that to get someone hurt in that war needed medical care on reimbursement all while we profess undying love for their service. >> the problem is not "we." it's with the obama administration. so the question then becomes, is the president even paying attention?

surely he keeps kathleen sebelius and shinseki in their positions far too long. and the american people have not been given clear answers to the benghazi and the irs scandal. there's an erosion of confidence in the federal government. the president and congress are getting low markets from folks. the american people believe competecom competency of the federal government is sinking. >> i don't think obama is stepping up in these various crises coming up.

the obamacare website, inexcusable. the fact they had information about this given to their transition team in 2008 and mrs. obama and mrs. biden made veterans their sort of signature issue. it seems like something that would have gotten the attention of the president who also, i think, has said, or talked the talk, on how important veterans are to him. >> he's helped me help the veterans. i think he's genuinely interested. is it your opinion the president is not paying attention? is he distracted? does he not like his job? is he bored? the evident is overwhelming. we didn't know about it. we didn't know about it. we didn't know about it. what's going on? what's really happening? >> he seems disengaged, i think, would be fair to say. but it's clear that he is disengaged. i think if you go back to the

obamacare website -- if he's not interested in that, he's not interested in anything. this is his signature accomplishment, his legacy. and he really shows almost no curiosity about whether the website was going to function. so i think that he is very disengaged and he doesn't seem to be a hands-on kind of manager. the fact that there was this information on the va -- there was a letter that was sent to him. there were people raising red flags. there were people saying there were problems. i'm sorry? >> good people. credible people. you voted for barack obama twice. are you profoundly disappointed in him now? >> yes,yes i am. i voted for him once. i didn't vote in the last election because i really was so und und

underwhelmed with my options. >> you could have written in my name. >> gosh, why didn't i think of that? >> i know. come on. >> there would be a lot of people writing in bill o'reilly. >> sure there would. >> i am extremely disappointed in him, as a lot of people are who voted for him. next up, america growi inin angrier at the federal. and later, senator marco rubio has a solution to the border crisis. ♪ don't miss a step...

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illegal immigrant children into the usa. thousands of illegal aliens are being sent to other communities around the country. more than 100 illegal aliens were sent to settle there. it did not happen. >> as soon as the buses arrived, protesters took to the middle of the streets, refusing to move out of the way. >> go back. >> for about 45 minutes, police tried to control the crowd, but no one would budge. >> usa. usa. >> that confrontation got nasty. not what america is supposed to be, but the fault lies mainly with the federal government and the president in particular. as an editorial makes clear, president obama knew for years the southern border was not secure.

to bring tens of thousands of foreign nationals into the u.s. aided by mexico, that's a problem mr. obama should have dealt with years ago. he did not. now we have mass chaos, a humanitarian disaster, and anger that may erupt into violence. most americans have had enough. about 1500 registered voters nationwide are asked if the country would be better off if mitt romney beat president obama? 54% say the obama administration is not competent and 55% disapprove of his handling of the economy. just 40% say the president is doing a good job there. that poll is a disaster for president obama. most americans believe our foreign policy is in tatters.

the economy is bad. on every single issue, the president has not shown leadership, but the federal government has an obligation to enforce the law and protect the borders of this country and for decades, they have not fulfilled that obligation. an awful display took place. >> a popular mexican singer showed up to give his support to the peopleon the bus. >> he's here to work and make this country better. if they don't want to accept it, it's because we built the united states of america. >> instantly the crowds turn to rivera, one man spitting in his face. >> that should never happen in america. again, the incompetence of the federal government is driving that. and that's a memo. a new poll asks do you often

feel proud to be an american. 56% say yes. 44% no, or they don't say anything. join us now for new orleans fox's contributor a democrat from washington and a republican. what do you think is behind the poll? >> i'm not very surprised by it. this effort to pit americans one against another, if you're opposed to the health care mandate then you must hate women, all that ties into it. you have to realize this started decades ago with the liberal takeover of the college campuses. this is a mentality deeply ingrained in our american citizens. >> 20% of americans define themselves as liberal. 44% say they are not proud of their country.

there is a lot of conservatives in that crew. what do you think is behind that? >> it's odd that the banks blowing up the world had nothing to do with it. look, we have been through the sixth year of a very difficult recovery. >> do you think it is economically driven? >> i think some of it is. the republican party is horrifically more unpopular than the democratic party. president obama is significantly more popular than congress is. >> that's pretty damning, you know? >> i'm looking at the pew poll. >> you don't really know what's driving that. you think it is something about the economy? >> for six years, we haven't had

real income growth from old people in this country. >> i have a problem with that. >> a disastrous war in iraq and afghanistan. >> when you ask a question like that, they react emotionally. it's not like, well, the banking industry so i don't like america. it's the feeling in the air and the feeling is a very, very strong dislike of president obama by many, many americans. extremely strong. i'm not saying he doesn't have his supporters. he does. >> all right. >> but the ones who don't like him, really don't like him. it was almost like bush. >> i'll agree with you on that. >> the ones that didn't like bush really didn't like him. >> i don't disagree with that. >> i think that's what driving the poll. how should we the people handle the growing threats against us? where bacteria can multiply.

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threshold state, meaning it will be six months, eight months away from a bomb. and that i think is the biggest of all threats because terror at the conventional level will give us 9/11. but terror at the nuclear level will give us unbelievable destruction that we cannot imagine. and that would be coming. >> okay. now, kirsten powers puts forth that, hey, it's always been this way in the world and it's unfair to lay all this on president obama and to call him weak and anything else. that he's doing just as well as reagan did. >> look, it's true that it's always this way. there's always been instability. there have always been bad actors. and sometimes it's been worse when the bad actors were the heads of germany and japan, that was a lot worse. nonetheless there is a difference now. and that is that before with reagan, with clinton i would say, with bush, senior,

particularly with the gulf war, the challenge of the fall of the berl lin wall. we have had american leadership. we have a president who says russia's on the wrong side of history. as if history's going to work stuff out without the united states. and that -- that's probably a belief of his. it's an ideological belief of his. but what it means is our allies are unsure if there's anybody to back them up. and our enemies are thinking we now have a free reign to do what we want because the sheriff has gone home. >> now, let's shift it back into the domestic arena. the economy is still nowhere. it is a struggle for the folks. so how do americans caught in this vise, what are the survival skills or advice you can give them? >> it is rather simple. you take the neck, the boot of the government off the american economy. let the vital spirits, the vital energies of the american economy, which are enormous and

unmatched in the world, the skill, the technology, the risk taking. let that loose. if we get in a new administration -- unfortunately we're going to have to wait two years. that's why we've had a slow recovery since the second world war. you allow the u.s. economy to have less regulation, less taxation, less of the epa trying to hold back the boom in energy, which is what has pulled us to whatever extent it has out of our recession. you allow all that to happen, the american economy is going to go gang busters. >> need leadership in washington as you said. you may not have that. >> we're going to have to survive two and a half more years. >> but i'm not sure that the folks who voted in barack obama twice are going to admit their mistake and see it your way. >> your theory is, and it's one that it could be true, you know, every once in a while you get it right. is that there are fundamental changes in the country that means it ops it will choose

dependency. i happen to believe that that tipping point is reachable. i do think the majority of the unemployed would love to have a job. they don't want to be on the doll and food stamps. if you have the right leadership, and you have a republican conservative who makes the case for a free society when people's energy and enterprise will allow them to succeed, you'll win the political argument. you'll win the white house. and you can have an economy that can actually work. >> "the factor" moves along this evening. senator marco rubio will be here to talk about the immigration mes, how he would solve it. >> the first step in this process needs to be an all-out effort to put to rest the illegal immigration problem in america. avo: waves don't care what age you are. take them on the way you always have. live healthy and take one a day men's 50+.

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hammered. a vast majority of americans think he's doing terrible job there. however, just 23% of americans believe the republicans in congress of which you are one, are doing a good job. 23%. so you guys are getting a blasted as well. so my question to you is, if you were the president of the united states, how would you stop this humanitarian disaster down there? >> well, first of all, it wouldn't have happened because i never would have signed an executive order granting deferred action to those in this country illegally. shown a tremendous amount of compassion, but that was not the right way to do it. it sent a message to invite people to come. you see what's followed. i would say the second thing in this process neetds to be an all-out effort to put to rest the illegal immigration problem in america. this involves the strategic fencing and deployment of ground sensors and cameras and drones and so forth to secure the southern border with mexico.

it involves an e-verify program that requires employers to check the people they're hiring are here. an exit tracking at our airports. people enter the country legally and overstay visas. that would be the first step in this process. you have to do every single aspect of it. and only after you do that can you move to step two which is reforming the legal immigration -- >> i agree with you 100%. you've got to stop the madness first. but let's deal with the kids now because this is the humanitarian crisis the whole world is watching. number one, you have no fence in these hot sectors. you say we should. and i agree. number two, governor perry of texas is asking and has asked for years the national guard to go down and help the border patrol. do you favor that? >> i do. again, that has to do with manpower and part of any effort to secure the border. you put the national guard down there --

>> you show the world pictures of our military on the border. right away just those pictures would de-incentivize the people paying these terrible cartels to human smuggle. so you would have a solution. all right, now, why do you think the folks are holding it against the republicans? are they believing president obama when he's trying to blame you guys for the border madness? >> i think it's an indictment of all of washington, of the failure for more than a decade to deal with the problem we know exists. unless you are in favor of the status quo, unless you looked at what's happening now and say i think this is working for america, you have to be in favor of fixing it. that's not really the debate. the debate is how you fix it. in my mind the first step in fixing this is to stop the growth and the problem we have right now with illegal immigration. and then to begin to erode that number, to lower it, so you can move to step two which is reforming the legal immigration process towards one that is based on merit and works for our

country in the 21st century. >> okay. senator, we appreciate your time tonight. thank you. again, thanks for watching us tonight. i'm bill o'reilly. please always remember that the spin stops right here. we're definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, 90 minutes into a tenuous cease-fire in gaza peace was shattered once again as u.s. officials say hamas broke the truce killing more israelis before the ink was even dry on the truce deal. welcome to "the kelly file," i'm megyn kelly. tanks and air strikes pummel gaza between our ally, israel, and a group, hamas, we recognize as terrorists. the battle ramping back up hours ago after the cease-fire was violated by a surprise hamas terrorist attack. two israeli soldiers were killed and a 23-year-old second lieutenant is now missing. israel is investigating whether he was