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we feel obligated to give you all sides of this. it is a big concern. we'll follow it tonight at 8:00 p.m. on fbn. hello everybody i'm greg gutfeld along with andrea tantaros, dana per no, bob beckel and eric bolling. this is "the five." it's time for my die-hard theory. in the file as in life there are three key characters. the hero saves the day through cunning bravery, john mcclain then those who help him out like officer powell. then that one jerk who screams we're all going to die and nearly ruins everybody like bumbling their escape. you don't want to be that guy
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especially when talk about ebola. first of all homework shows you're not at risk unless you swap spit or other bodily fluids. diseases like these are hygienically borne and terminated by isolation. if that american doctor a hero who put other's lives before his honey can't come here for treatment than where? he didn't go to canada or england which says much about our private health care and little about their socialized alternative. of course you should always stress precaution. that's helpful. especially if you're in the media. when you suggest, however that chaos reigns in a hospital where there might be an ebola patient you're not helping. you may get more attention or eyeballs but you're a creep. cover the kardashian instead at least you won't hurt anybody and it might stop the hysteria.
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the person being tested means nothing. they have to isolate you. the guy is doing fine. no chance he has the virus. so why the reactionary response, dana? >> because it is a deadly disease and there is concern. i think what you're referring to -- are you referring to the front page of the "new york post" that there was a guy who might have a ebola. >> it's shark bite story of 2014. usually every summer there's the story of shark bites and you have to be worried if you're near the shore. there's reason to be concerned that there are people that are coming, possibly coming in to the country who are infected but don't know it. and then, you know, could be additional problems. you have to be educated about how it is spread. it's not like sars. remember when there was the sars
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epidemic in southeast asia and it started spreading. that was a little bit more worrisome because it was spread through, if i can be talking to bob and he could end up with sars. >> he already has sars. >> and he survived. >> bob has ebola and sars -- >> i'm fine. designee gets healthier. >> you could get something else just from talking to bob. i should be in a hazmat suit. >> that's true. >> let's go to dr. siegel. >> you told me that you can use the same kind of quarantine they use for stars. and the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases the most prominent infectious disease expert in the country he said there's a small chance it would spread here. neither of these experts were worried about spread here. >> should we be worried? >> i think there's cause for concern. i mean you have 190,000 flights
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coming in to jfk alone, 21 million people a year. a lot of them coming from this region of the world. i will say this. in places like new york city they do practice alternative medicine. so you could have somebody come from one of these countries, go visit a family member and go see a nontraditional doctor. this is not unheard of if he comes with a family member. if somebody gets sick on a flight from jfk because it's passed through bodily fluids. there shouldn't be hysteria. if you get it you have a 90% chance of dying. people who are caring these people are in hazmat suits. so if somebody has the ebola virus and are blocks away you probably won't get it but those who are caring for them are the ones in danger. i think it's cause for concern and if this does start to
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spread, it will hurt our economy and it will hurt our health care system. no question. now us a mentioned, greg, we're testing to make sure someone with symptoms, anyone who goes into a hospital with flu-like symptoms has to be tested to make sure it's not a false positive. >> it's costly. the point you make and it's a good point you have to actually come in to contact. if you're worried about ebola don't come in to contact. don't go to west africa. >> i love you, brother, but i think it's dangerous, dangerous to say let's calm the rhetoric down because we don't know. >> yes, we do know. >> no, we don't know. >> yes, we do. >> so far 900 people died in africa and could be more. >> why did they die? we do know how they died. from retropractices. they wash their practices.
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>> i'm glad they grounded their flights. it was foolish to bring two people with known ebola virus infection. >> you turn down a doctor who risked his life to save other people's lives, you would turn him down. how sick is that? >> bring the cdc there. >> emory is a private institution that can treat them. >> if people want to go there -- listen i think it's fantastic what he did as a christian. he was christian-like -- >> let him die over there. that's what you said. >> let me put it this way. it's my opinion. this is a debate show. as wrong as my opinion, according to you is, i think we need to know more. i think we need to know exactly if it is only transferred through bodily fluids and we're not exactly positive. it has 90% mortality rate. >> 60%.
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>> up to 90. >> 60%. >> upwards of 90. >> here's how it's spread contact of secretion of the sick or corpses. there are in west africa the reason why it's a large increase is because it started in rural areas which can be localize and isolated. >> i do like listening to the facts. i want to inject my opinion. >> opinion needs to be based on fact. >> i'm done. >> bob? >> go to my twitter. >> part of the problem here is that this san african disease and we had aids out of africa, a number of diseases in west africa. there are no borders. talk about borders people back and forth. the fact of the matter is when you start something like this and you start to ratchet it up too high whether you know it or don't know it you have to take into account siegel and others who understand these things the
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guy is safe. he went to emory but being treated by government doctors of the cdc. i had to burst your bubble on something. i think tuberculosis is a bigger problem than this is. i can understand eric's point. we don't have all facts but we have enough to say here's a guy that did the right thing and get the right treatment here and i think everything will be fine. i don't think anybody ought to spread it beyond that. >> but can we agree we're in unchartered territory here. there's no question, i think, that people are -- they are freaking out and they want facts and they want information and that's why we're covering this because it's important and some people are asking the question and that's why we're debating it why can't they people be treated offshore. is there an opening for a military hospital. should they be brought here. there's cause for concern. my concern was these international flights, 21 international passengers that
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may not seek medical treatment or throw up on a plane, there may be an incident like that. i don't want it to be pushed to the side completely because we don't know. frankly i don't trust people who are in charge particularly here in new york city and the white house to get this thing under control. >> let me bring dana in here. we say we don't understand this. ebola has been around for 40 years. there have been outbreaks that end by using the tactics ever isolation and medical practices. the reason why this is different you're dealing with a culture that is superstitious of medical practice. is there a reason why people is freaking out because the media is filling up space of hwith
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hysteria. >> it's possible that through them coming back, they basically have given their lives to take care of these people. they got sick. came back. because of the research being done on them we might get even closer to find a cure that would help people all over the world and that's something that still in america we might disagree about exceptionalism and our military but when it comes to medical diplomacy we're still the best at it in the world. >> remember that movie they had the african village and flew in a big bomb and blew the thing in. somehow it got into california, the town in california and it spread. it was called ebola, i think. i bet every network will put that on the air now because it's hot. >> eric, last word, how does panic help. >> i'm not saying panic. be careful. be smart. wait until you have all the
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facts indiscriminately to bring these patients to the united states. let me finish this one thought and i'll shut up. >> you're not making sense. we brought two people back. government-sponsored. it was controlled. you're talking about two separate things. the concern is that people that are coming we don't know if they are sick. >> that's my point. >> you've been mixing the two which is why everybody is so frustrated. >> really? >> i don't think we have enough information. it's not smart to willingly bring two people who have it back to the united states. before you go ahead and say it's okay and sound the all clear, you do things -- british airways is very smart. they are not going to lose a ton of money. >> british airways would not have turned down a british doctor who was trying to save lives. next on the five, a rise in
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products of the conflict of israel and hamas is the trends of anti-semiism throughout the world especially in europe. protests have rocketed throughout the world in cities. precedent show world leaders should be more forceful in their condemnation of these acts. >> our world leaders in many cases have not stood up and told the truth as they know it to be. they have been pandering too top of the minority communities sometimes in their country ty s sometimes. many think you can appease your way out. going back to the 1930s when there was huge appeasement of hitler. it's moral cowardice. >> i spoke to a contact at the national holocaust museum and he said consensus is anti-semiism is worse now than it has been since world war ii. i want to start, greg with you, you said something the other day.
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the governments of these countries the official word from these countries is that they condemn such protests, they are trying to get information be more, i guess, asking them not to be anti-semitic. the problem is it's gone from government into the culture and how do you get it back out? >> anti-semiism arises as practitioners are tolerating the abhers. the person screaming kill the jews remains quiet about islamic mysogny and homophobia. you couple that with educated young adults infected on campus by professors who are also anti-israel, that's basically ebola spread by a pony tail. the amazing irony you have more hate going on the campus than you do in military industrial complex where people get along. most of this hate -- i mean it's cowardice because these critics
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think it's brave to criticize israel. they know israel won't behead them on the street. they don't go after radical islam. none of the pop stars in england go after radical islam, they just rag on israel because they know they won't get killed. >> there was a band you can't support any more -- >> white family. great band. but they went after israel and it's like, you know what? that's not brave that's stupid. >> bob, jimmy carter today said that he believes that israel needs to recognize hamas as a legitimate political actor. this is a former president that doesn't seem too worried about his legacy in america but maybe around the world because -- >> i'm surprised you direct this question at me. >> give us some insight as to what he's thinking. >> i think what he's thinking is -- first of all, can i comment on the anti-semiism in
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europe. >> certainly. >> this is not a new phenomenon. it's been growing in germany and france. these right-wing moments even before this all happened. when you couple that with fact that these countries that refuse stand up and say something about this are the same ones that allowed muslim residents to move into their country, france and germany and england and of course they are going to be worried about it. you can't just sort of bow down to these people and allow anti-semiism happen. whoever these kids were that did it on the church shouldn't have been hung but put away in jail for a long time. now on carter, you have to say this. i think what he's thinking there was an election in gaza, a number of people from hamas who were elected. now we mentioned on this show there should be another election. i think that's a good point. but they are in that sense, quote, a legitimate political force in gaza. they are terrorists. they are murderers. now i don't know of another
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political force outside the nazis that would reach that conclusion, even the nazis were not elected fairly. but the hamas people were. so i think that's what he was thinking. i don't think the timing is the best -- >> probably not. let me ask, eric, when you have this phenomenon that's growing and you have a former president of the united states kind of giving credibility to their arguments, how do you as culturally try to turn back the tide? >> very interesting what's going on. right? historically jews in america have voted democrat. they lean left and vote democrat. what's going on now with the conflict seems the conservatives, the republicans are backing israel in the conflict and pushing away from the left. if you watch msnbc and the other networks are more sympathetic to hamas or the gaza side and it's very interesting. george soros big left wing nut
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job invested everything he had that had israel connection. why is this? why is the left now choosing to side with hamas and gaza. i can't figure it out. >> remember i think it was two weeks ago when we were talking about christians and women and children being killed in mosul, iraqi christians and the state department said it was concerned. yesterday, it said it was appalled by actions by hamas. the language is different. >> it is different. hamas is occupying gaza. israel has said, look, it's not that israel is saying there can't be a two state solution. but hamas' mission is to obliterate israel. they don't believe they should exist. why our position on terrorist organizations have changed. one thing if you want to have a debate about the palestinians and israelis. this is different because we're talking about a terrorist organization. on jimmy carter bob says i don't
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know what he was thinking. he wasn't thinking. jimmy carter doesn't think. he said terrorism is a legitimate form of political expression. if we say that we have to say isis, al qaeda, hezbollah is a legitimate political actor. and introducing a bill in congress is just like what they are doing establish their political goals. i do want to say that this spread of anti-semiism, i lived in paris for a long period of time and i saw this bubbling up of this northern african immigration that happened in the 1960s, it happened in england, france and germany. bob is absolutely right. now you have this culture where they are rising up. i do think that it is something to be deeply concerned about. look at "newsweek" this week. >> take it out of my block. i got to say one thing. >> i have to toss it to -- >> come on. >> i do. we'll get right back. an update on the sad news of the day.
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fox news confirmed the general killed in afghanistan was major general harold green. his next of kin have been notified. highest ranking american to die in action for our nation since the vietnam war. the pentagon officials say a man believed to an afghan soldier opened fire on a training camp near kabul this morning, as many as 15 people wounded. about half of the injured were americans and general green was killed. as for him, he's a native of upstate new york, received his commission as an engineer officer following his graduation in 1980. he holds a ph.d. from the university of southern california in material science. his military education includes army war college. his awards include legion of merit with three oak leaf clusters, the meritorious service medal, army commendation medal, the army achievement medal and the army superior unit award. according to the reporting of the "the washington post"
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♪ welcome back to the fastest seven minutes in news. three compelling stories, seven minutes, one host. first up washington redskins owner dan snyder has vowed not to cave to activist pressure to change the name of his football team. he makes a valid case that the media is more concerned about creating controversy than addressing the real problems within the native american community. listen. >> it's sort of fun to talk about the name of our football team because it gets some attention for some of the people
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that write it that need clicks or what have you. but the reality is nobody talks about what's going on reservations that they have high unemployment rates, health care issues, education issues. environmental issues, lack of water, lack of electricity. no one wants to talk about that stuff, because it's not -- it's not a cocktail chitchat talk. >> is about it the name or just the clicks of the eyeballs. >> he's partially right. i think the media is distracting and making this a pc issue. when you make comments like that and feed the beast you're not helping the cause. if snyder keeps making these comments he has to change the name. that could be taken out of context. he should just focus on sports and not feed the story. there's a great point name it the washington reagans or gives.
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>> that would make the liberals even more mad. >> you're a skins fan. >> yes. >> is this controversy good for the team? >> i don't know if it's good. it's got on every year i've lived there. it's gone on 37 years. >> since the civil war? >> what. >> since the civil war. >> we got started just before the civil war. they had to shut down during the war and started right after. i think snyder -- andrea is right. all things he put out there are real problems on the reservation. lot of reasons why people who don't like the name redskins don't like him. it's kind of like, i don't get it. the people who are concerned about these should you name it redskins he should say absolutely not. >> would you advise him to go that route? >> when it comes took a professional pr person he makes a very good owner of a football team and stick that. however, look, here's the thing about him. we tried to put ourselves in his
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shoes but we can't fit in his shoes. his shoes are so big. only his head is bigger than his shoes. some doesn't care what the media thinks. the interviewer should have said and what how far done address any of the things you just talked about. there's absolutely -- i don't know of anything that dan snyder has done regarding those reservations. >> he says he has done a lot and that's where he was leading the interviewer. >> well maybe i should have listened to more. >> is the media wrong in highlighting the fact that the native americans are upset about the redskin name? >> i think both sides can be wrong. he might not be able to control the conversation any more. whenever he's interviewed they will ask him. he always has to address this. 99% of the heat generated off this story is media generated. it's a hysteria machine. somebody asks the question and he answers it. it doesn't stop.
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i still think the name is goofy. i can agree with it. it's got to be great if that's are you on lie problem. that's what i don't understand. he's making the point you got all these other issues and you're to discussion on this. not just him but the media is. you got to have a great life. >> they have a good team this year? >> pretty good. >> they do have a lot of media attention. the name is every where. >> if they lose a bunch of games it's going to put them in a hard position. >> put two bad boy fighters on the stage, cameras rolling, look what will tend to happen. >> and just afterward here's how the two guys saw it. >> i walked right up to me, he walked up to me, i put my chin down. i figured a great photo op.
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i did not expect to get hit in the throat. i got hit in the throat right away. i reacted. >> there's not a man walking this earth that will get into my face, put his head on me and push me forward without me actually reacting. >> so, we report, you decide. greg emotional reaction or publicity stunt? >> happy ending is they both got married in a tasteful ceremony. why are you giving the milk away for free. now you don't have to see the fight. >> you'll tune in to watch the fight. that's the point. >> i stand corrected. >> i think it's fake. >> publicity stunt? >> do you >> this is from the mma. i thought this was the beginning of our show between you and greg. no? >> they will get married afterwards. >> i don't think that's going to happen. >> live together. >> this makes me now want to watch the fight. who would put your chin -- i wouldn't go anywhere near these two guys. that's instigation.
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>> i consider ultimate fighting the worst sport. >> do you like boxing. >> do i. >> how do you like boxing and not that. >> it used be with boxes before don king came along -- i better be careful here. >> have you literally sat and watched a full night of mma. >> i have. it's the most ridiculous, disgusting thing for a bunch of people who couldn't make it into the boxing ring. >> you better get somebody to start your car. >> how about this one? you know what the fastest way to a viewer's heart is puppies. you know the second fastest route, soft dad commercials. >> my name is dad and i'm proud of it. kids think we're awesome. we get our hands messy. we tell funny jokes. we never say no to dress up. we do the best sports.
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we work, work and do homework. we lead by example. we're the enforcement. buddy it's garbage day. when a heart is broken we're the reinforcement. we wouldn't have it any other way. acdad is awesome. >> go ahead, your thoughts >> first of all, i don't think puppies are the fastest way to anybody's hearts. waste of time. if that's a typical dad, come on. doesn't happen that way. what's that commercial for? >> there's the problem. you can't figure out what the commercial is for. >> maybe it doesn't matter because they got national media attention. do i think the ad is good but doesn't quite match the product. i don't know if michele obama would approve of the sugary offended the. >> i'm deeply offended. why does dad have to be a guy.
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it's a refreshing because most dads are viewed as knuckle heads or falling over hitting a rake. it's nice to see a dad that's being appreciated. >> finally the dad is not a doofus. but i did think it's an interesting cultural commentary if you look the wife is in the back work on the computer and the dad is taking on more of the mom duties which is the trend that's happening in our culture. fascinating to see that. >> i didn't say anything. >> love the dad on "family guy." >> walk of shame when women and men make the trip back to their men make the trip back to their dorm or home, nine west
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♪ so can shoes help women find a husband? nine west is claiming that its shoes can as part of a new controversial ad campaign. one ad reads, start your husband hunting. shows a women in leopard pumps holding an arrow. this one to sell bags titled anticipatory walk of shame. in case you don't know what a walk of shame is or you haven't left bob beckel's apartment at 7:00 a.m. it's leaving someone's apartment after a one nightstand. nine west says we have to change the way we talk about occasions because women are modern and shop for a different reason. does the modern women need a shoe company's help to go husband hunting. i disagree with this. do i not pick my shoes based on an occasion. i'm not buying them oh, i'm going wear shoes like this.
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because i want to do a walk of shame or find -- i buy it because it's hot. yes? >> i've been married for 16 years so the shoes i wear are a little more comfortable at this point. arch support, little lower heel. but they are going after the women who watch the bachelorette. >> that was good of you dana. >> what's the other one? "girls." that's their market. i don't blame them forgoing after it because our culture not just the ad company, the ad company followed pop culture which took the lead. see what i mean. >> i guess i don't understand -- someone who has a black belt in shoe buying i don't buy shoes and go look this will look amazing when i'm walking home from a guy's -- >> you bring up the most important point about this campaign and what feminists seem to miss, the myth that women buy shoes for men or the myth that
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women buy purses for men. they buy them for other women. it's like no man, no man who likes a woman will go, i hope she wears those $1,200 shoes tonight. he doesn't care if you're wearing $10 moccassins. but there will be feminist outrage how dare you admit a fundamental truth that millions of women would like to find a guy and marry them or have a child because that's part of the ad that is offensive. >> i also thought too wasn't the goal to find a husband and get married and stay married. they are saying a starter husband. they are glorifing the divorce. divorce is painful. >> can you help me out. they are saying the occasion is the walk of shame the next morning. >> correct. >> wear your shoe. >> you want to look cute on your walk of shame. >> you want to buy a shoe to highlight the walk of shame.
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and what's the secretary of state husband thing. >> they are telling girls, preparing them to be married once, maybe twice, maybe three times. i thought the goal was to get married one time and to stay married. also you don't glorify the one nightstand. >> i will say this, greg says men don't care about women in heels. i disagree. they don't care about the price. i buy it because it looks nice on my leg. >> they do at a stripper club. here's the thing. this thing looks like a good pair of shoes with measles. i've never heard of nine west before. i never have. i swear to god. >> you told me you thought it was kanye's kid. >> yeah. that was your jock.
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♪ it's been a decade since scrabble's dictionary was last updated. faithful players now have 5,000 new words they can put on the board. among them chillax. selfie. bromance. that's really weird. bling. did you ever play this ridiculous game? i can't spell so i don't play it. >> really? >> i like it. >> do you play it? >> i never played it in my life. my favorite game was called "the da dateing game. we played it with the ouija
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board so we could talk to ghosts. >> that wasn't the question. my favorite one growing up -- >> what's your favorite game? >> hungry hippos, operation. i loved pictionary. i loved to play it when i was a kid and i love to plate now. >> used to jog on candyland. >> that's my favorite game. >> you have to be careful who you play scrabble with. people cheat. if you path word out, there i'll look up your word and see if it's legit and you see four letters down looking at their next word -- so keep your eye on the cheaters. my favorite game of all time monopoly. i learned a life lesson while playing monopoly. i'm playing with my dad, i'm killing him, crushing him. he has a few properties. he says can you give me some money. i gave him $500 bill in
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monopoly. he came back and beat me. dad can i get the 500 back and he said no, but learn. i swear to god, i swear on my son that's an absolute true story. >> i loved clue as well. >> how about you >> first i want to know can i borrow $500? i like candyland. i don't still play it but when i was younger. and i'm like dana i loved board games when i was little. what was some other ones. >> connect four. >> those were so good. >> risk. anybody play risk. >> i never understood it. >> chess players here? >> no. >> can you tell? >> i play checkers. my favorite game is clue. i liked clue. it was great. >> did you have one. >> you can cheat on that one
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? ♪ all right. one more thing. i'll start it off. this probably happened to you. you come the home your farm and can't find your cows. they are all over the place and you have no way to get your cows back. what's his name. farmer der rick klindingberger has a solution. he serenades with his trombone and here's what happens. ♪ [ cows mooing ]
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♪ >> at the end all the cattle eat him alive because of that irritating trombone. dana? >> i was going share with you something that happened to me this morning. i had a dream that i think might give us a clue on whether or not hillary clinton is going to run for president. in my dream i was having dinner with hillary clinton, my husband peter and donna brazil who is a democratic strategist and my friend and we were all talking and hillary is being very coy. i said al gore might run for president. she said is that so. i saw a woman who used to live in my neighborhood and i said do you think hillary clinton will run and she gave me a wink and today hollywood life reports that hillary clinton leased office space in new york city, now taking my dream and that clue we might be closer to an
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answer. >> you need a psychiatrist for that one. >> that's exciting. >> all right. enough. andrea. >> i had a dream we're going on a flight to north korea but we couldn't find you bolling. anyway it was the president's birthday yesterday he turned 53 and jimmy kimmel as always had some fun with it sending out his live eyewitness news. >> what did you think when you saw president obama give that famous press conference saying it's my birthday and i'll mess with congress if i want to. >> i was shocked. >> what did you do while you watched the president birthday parade. >> was it irresponsible that congress spent $500,000 on trick
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candles. >> oh, god. i love kimmel. the whole video is genius. >> eric. >> some kids are born to play baseball. some kids are born to be like a doctor or lawyer. this kid is definitely born to be on tv. watch. >> i've never been on live television before. but sometimes i don't watch the news because i'm a kid and. apparently grandpa gives me the remote to watch the powerball. >> apparently. >> that was noah. stay with us. you have a future. >> he's little beckel. >> i'm going to change my one more thing because i think in fairness to my former boss jimmy carter who took a little bit of a hit i didn't get a chance to
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say anything about it. i want to remind people it was jimmy carder who went to camp david and got israel to have the only two countries in the region to be their allies that was egypt and jordan. that which israel would have suffered a number of wars since then. so with all the heat that carter has taken about what he said about hamas he's the only person that we've had that actually brought israel peace in their time. >> there's not even enough time to rebut that. you always do that at the end of the show. >> i have to do that. >> he got cut off. >> i did. >> don't forget to set your dvr so you never miss an >> it is wednesday august 6th. trouble plans as the growing ebola fear spreads across the country. hoy airlines are changing
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course. >> he is the highest ranking military officer killed since the vietnam war. harold green the victim of an insider attack in afghanistan. the reaction leaves many scratching their heads. >> the force that mother nature forced this home off its foundation. "fox & friends first" starts right now. >> good morning to you. great song. you are watching "fox & friends first". i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. thank you for starting yooir day off with us. fear of ebola outbreak
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intensifies as airports step up their screenings to stop the spread of the deadly disease. good morning, kelly. >> good morning ainsley and heather. >> new cases of the disease are showing up in nigeria. >> it is out of control and in many respects it is catastrophic. >> they are working hard to stop the spread of the disease. they are becoming the first line of defense at the airports. the centers of disease control are looking out for any one with symptoms of ebola. people showing signs can be held in isolation indefinitely. they are trying to reassure worried public. president obama expressing it to african leaders who are gathering for the summit. >> let me welcome you from sere
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