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. busy night tonight on "the kelly file." i'm shannon breen in for megyn kelly on "the kelly file." welcome to "hannity" as day four of our coverage on the ground in israel. we're in tel aviv tonight and four days after heavy violence between israel and hamas, benjamin netanyahu addressed reporters yesterday to not only express deep regret for every civilian casualty but also to defend his country's response to the hamas terror attacks. i sat down for a one-on-one interview with the minister. let's take a look. >> mr. prime minister, great to see you again. >> good to see you, sean. welcome to israel. >> it's been a rough five weeks
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for you. >> for everybody. >> everyone. >> every interview that you have given and yesterday in your press conference you challenged the world to put themselves in israel's position. what would you do if your country were attacked by 3500 rockets? what would you do if tunnels of terrorists were built to attack your citizens? i want you to expand on that. >> well, i think we're in a terrible conflict with a terrible enemy and we regret -- i personally regret and the people of israel regret every civilian casualty that we have. israel does not target civilians. it targets the terrorists. but here's what the terrorists are doing. terrorists like al qaeda and hezbollah and like isis and like boko haram, hamas is no different. they have absolutely no regard for civilians. so the first thing they do is target our civilians. they fired 3500 rockets into our
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city where 85% of our population is. just imagine, 250 million americans will have to be on alert to get into bomb shelters against incoming rockets into american cities. you have 90 seconds at most to go into a bomb shelter. that's the first thing they do. they target civilians. then they dig terror tunnels to kill our citizens, our children, and kidnap our people. imagine that. so what would you do in the united states or in any country, for that matter? what would you say to your governor? >> i would say get to them. protect us. >> protect us. the government's first obligation is to protect its people. now, here comes problem number two. what if they not only target your civilians so criminally and indiscriminately, what if they hide behind civilians? what if those terror rockets are
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being fired from schools, from hospitals, from motels, and private homes? what would you do them? what if the terror tunnels are dug into your nurseries, your schools, and kindergartens from homes, private homes on their side? would you give immunity to these rocketeers and terrorists and death squads? because the point of origin of the attack is deliberately embedded in civilians. obviously, you wouldn't. you would say to the government, no, act against them. try to minimize casualties but go against these terrorists because we need to protect ourselves. this is what israel has been doing. i think when people say you shouldn't take action, you have to understand that what they are saying is that the terrorists will enjoy this immunity. you will give them essentially immunity and they'll continue to do this. i think when the middle east is swept by this volatile mix, it's now almost a brush fire of
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terrorist organizations using this tactic targeting civilians while hiding behind civilians and we are left absolutely defenseless and we say you cannot act, i think that will ensure that the brush fire spreads throughout the middle east, throughout north africa and i say eventually around the globe. >> let me ask you this. israel went to great pains. we saw leaflets being dropped warning them to get out. explain the pains of the -- the methods you would use to warn civilians, text messages, i understand, phone calls were made? >> first of all, leaflets, phone calls, you call into a building that is used as a terrorist head quarters and you say to all of the people there, look, this is -- you're in a military target. please leave. okay? and if they don't leave, you do
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a demonstration that is not explosive. and then they leave. and when you see them leave, you attack it. that's basically the procedure from the air. now the -- and i don't know of any country that does that. i don't know of any army that does that. certainly no one does it more than that. i don't know of an army that does more than an israeli army does. >> you're a student of churchill. during the bombing of britain, not only did he walk amongst the people but secondarily, how did he deal with germany? >> how did he do it? >> he carpet bombed cities. >> well, i don't want to speak about churchill. >> his modern warfare changed. >> well, i think we don't use carpet bombing. and we don't use deliberate targeting of a single civilian. we are targeting military targets and sometimes civilians are accidently killed. you talk about world war ii, i'll give you another example of
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world war ii. 1944, the royal air force, the british air force, goes out to bomb the gustavo headquarters in copeland. except the british pilots miss and they hit a children's hospital nearby and 87 children are horribly killed. that's not a war crime. that's a legitimate act of war against a legitimate target that has incidental and unintended casualties. that accompanies every war. that's what israel is facing and israel is encountering, giving warnings, trying not to any any way harm civilians but sometimes civilians that are put in harm's way deliberately by hamas. in the case of the terrorists, every rocket that they sent here, they were deliberately intended to hit our civilians and only our civilians. every terror tunnel that is dug is directed into our civilian
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area. so they are deliberately targeting civilians while deliberately hiding behind civilians using them as a human shield. that's a double war crime. now, who in the international community are accusing them of war crimes? israel. to take the defensive action that any government would have to do, any democracy would have to do under lessor circumstances and many have done that. and i think we shouldn't let the terrorists get away with this. >> you challenge the international community on this issue of war crimes because they have fired 3500 rockets into your country and built tunnels into your country and yet they want to attack israel and the united nations. what's your reaction to that? >> i think it endangers the whole structure of the laws of war. if i had to reduce all of the laws of war into a single sentence, it is this. you divide the world into two.
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combatants and noncombatants. you can attack deliberately combatants but not deliberately noncombatants. casualties happen but they are nonintentional israel acts that way. in the case of the terrorists, it's the act opposite. they intentionally and deliberately attack noncombatants. this equation is turned over on its head because that means that the ability of democracy, to respect the laws of war and respect human rights and civilian lives and try to minimize civilian lives, they are responsible for the civilian deaths caused horribly and tragically. they sacrifice their own people deliberately. the more civilian deaths, the better, from their point of view. >> during your press conference
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yesterday, you have video evidence of hamas firing these weapons in these heavily populated area from mosques and schools and one of the press outlets -- and you were challenging the press now that they are not under the intimidation of their videos but you were asked specifically not to show videos that you have for fear -- >> i showed a few of these press footage of people who either got out of gaza or had the courage to show the truth. because just about every one of those 3500 rockets that were fired at us were fired from densely populated areas and from schools with children around them. so -- and we showed two such examples. one fired from a hospital and one fired from another civilian
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population. please don't show this in your press conference, my life is going to be at risk. is anyone going to intimidate you from israel? of course not. hamas -- they cannot show how hamas is firing from civilian areas, how it's embedded children into its rocket launching sites, how it uses u.n. installations and uses them as military targets, not only to store rockets or to fire rockets from. it doesn't show combatant deaths it tries to hide number of combatants that have died in order to kick up the so-called proportion. so all of that -- it's hard for correspondents who fear for their lives but i expect them when they come out of gaza to
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report this, to report the truth. because among other things, we're not only fighting a battle here for justice and for moral clarity, we're fighting a battle for the truth, for the facts. the facts are that hamas are responsible for these human deaths and uses its human people for a human shield. coming up, more of my exclusive interview with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu right after the break and i asked the prime minister if the united states should cut off funding if they are funding terror. please stay with us. [ female announcer ] we help make secure financial tomorrows a reality
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operations and humanitarian aid dropped by isis terrorists. the president has authorized airstrikes if necessary. hello again, ed. >> reporter: hello, brett. the president heard the message coming from here at the white house, hundreds of protesters all day gathered outside the white house demanding action all the way to iraq where a woman who represents some 40,000 people who gave testimony saying it's time to act the the president made it clear from the state dining room he heard that message. >> when we face a situation like we do on that mountain with innocent people facing the prospect of violence on a horrific scale, when we have a mandate to help, in this case, a request from the iraqi government, and when we have the
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unique capabilities to help avert a massacre, then i believe the united states of america cannot turn a blind eye. >> reporter: he did not say what he'll do to stop isis long term, not just in iraq but syria. >> thanks, ed. now back to sean hannity. >> welcome back to "hannity," we're on the ground in israel and we continue with part 2 of my exclusive interview with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> i spent two days on the israeli/gaza border in between an israeli town, city and i spent time with the mayor and time with the police. the two things that really stood out, number one, is the geography, how close the enemies of israel are to you. it is how close? >> a mile. less than a mile. >> a mile is good.
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>> the other thing is, i was in one of the tunnels. the level of sophistication, it was reinforced concrete. >> right. >> it was engineered at a very sophisticated level. those two things stood out in my trip here. >> right. israel is -- the vulnerability of israel and the need to defend itself -- it's a tiny country. >> about the size of new jersey. >> i think it's smaller than new jersey. it's a tiny court. imagine if new jersey was hit by almost 4,000 rockets. what would you do? you'd have to act. the second thing is, you're right. they've taken all of the international support and aid, all of that cement -- >> israeli cement. >> israeli cement and sometimes provided by foreigners to build a life above ground, and they've
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built an underground terror city, plunging into israel for kidnap and murder and massacre, that's what they did. we have to make sure that that doesn't happen again. but you should know that when we talk about the civilian casualties, sean, every one of them, every one of them is a tragedy. every child loss is a tragedy. tragedy that could have been avoided, a, if hamas didn't use them as human shields but also if hamas accepted the cease-fire, the egyptian cease-fire, which we accepted -- >> weeks ago. >> weeks ago. 90% of the casualties would have been avoided if they had accepted the cease-fire that they accepted two days ago. >> in many ways do you -- >> so it all could have been avoided. we accepted it. hamas -- we did then. >> the question in my mind -- >> they refused, they rejected and six, seven cease-fires subsequently we accepted.
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>> they accepted it now but they lost 40 of the tunnels which i assume took years and years to build and millions of millions of dollars. do you think this is because, in that sense, israel won this battle? >> i'm not sure the battle is over. we've degraded their ability significantly. we've taken out the tunnels that we know about. there may be some that we don't know about. it took them years to build. and i think you have to take into account the possibility that they will continue to respond. and we are organized -- it really depends on whether they want to continue this battle. i think we have to find a peaceful solution if we can. we have nothing against the people of gaz sa. in fact, we want to help the people of gaza that are suffering under this tyranny. people come out, you know, when you had lulls, gazan people come
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out, palestinians come out in gaza and they began to protest and they said to hamas, what have you done to us? what have you done to us? and you know what hamas' response has been? they execute them on the spot. so this is a terror tyranny not only directed at us, our people, but directed against its own people and the reason they are doing this is they think they can get away with it in the international press. that's really why they are doing it. >> it's a moral issue for the united states and i'm not going to drag you into political battles within my country but when mohammed morsi became the president egypt, our country gave him money and weapons. with hamas, they g -- if that i government that is elected by
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the people of these countries, morally speaking, is it right that we give them, considering israel is our closest ally here, to give them money or arms? >> i think the support as given to our neighbors should be -- is premised on the assumption that they keep the peace, that they do not violate the peace. and i think that premise should be maintained. >> you do believe it? >> i believe it should be maintained. >> even though it's violated? >> i think you should insist on it. you should insist that people do not receive the assistance that was given, for example, for egypt was given under the -- >> well, what you want to make sure is that the peace treaty between israel and egypt is maintained and that's the premise of the american assistance to egypt. >> right.
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i understand. >> the american assistance to the palestinian authority is that they move towards peace with israel. and these are valid premises that should be kept. coming up, more of my exclusive one-on-one with the sitdown with benjamin netanyahu. plus, i'll ask him about the hamas charter and what it stands for. that's right after the break from tel aviv. to the staples associates. with guaranteed low prices on laptops, you'll flip out! now go tell your friends. staples. make more happen for less. if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity, powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. ducolax provides gentle overnight relief, unlike miralax that can take up to 3 days. dulcolax, for relief you can count on. dulcolax, for relief you can count on.
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you have to -- you have no choice. you have to understand radical islam. do you think the world, even in a post- 9/11 world, i wonder if people know the extent of the threat of radical islam. >> i hope they do. the evidence is abundant. what you have is isis taking swaths of iraq and syria. it's now pushing into close to lebanon and perhaps into jordan. that's very, very dangerous. and isis is basically a sister movement of al qaeda. you have hezbollah, radical shiites fighting radical sunnis and you have africa and north africa -- >> it's on the rise. >> islamic terrorist groups. they are all fighting among themselves but they all agree
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that once they destroy, vanquish their muslim moderates who don't share their views and behead them and do horrible things to them. >> you always hear wipe israel off the map. >> the radical sh radical shiit backed by iran. one thing they agree on, it's got to be an islamist hill and it's going to be world world dominated by their violent ideology which rejects human rights, rejects -- puts women in a channel. all minorities are eliminated. it's a terrible, terrible world view with these competing sects who want to enforce it on the
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rest of humanity. those of humanity will be left alive. a good portion will be destroyed. now, this is the danger that you have. 21st century weapons with early medieval doctrines here. wedded together. this is a great danger for the world. israel is on the front line facing this terrible force and should be given support and who is the world supporting? is it supporting hamas, this terrorist tyranny of the worst kind that is cruel to us and not only its only people or supporting the democracy that is trying to legitimately defend itself. and i think everyone should ask themselves that question because by supporting israel you're supporting yourself. >> i agree with your analysis. the marriage of radicalism and weapons of mass destruction has got to be viewed as the world's greatest threat. you know, one thing we're
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witnessing, with the rise of radicalism, you talk about the middle east and north africa and different groups and of course we have iran on the side, which i want to ask you about, and then look at -- it is somewhat surprising in this conflict that there was not enough moral clarity on the part of some people, some nations. we saw a rise in anti-seminism in france because hamas' charter is pretty clear. israel will continue to exist until islam obliterates it. they will fight the jews and kills the jews. when they go behind the trees and bushes, they will say, there's a jew behind me. i'm sure you're aware of their charter. so the question is, you see the rise of radicalism, of
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anti-semitism, you read hamas' charter and you hear you've got to have a cease-fire you cannot defend yourself. >> well, i think a lot of people say they support israel's right to exist but in practice refuse to let israel exercise that right. i know that's not the u.s.' position and the u.s. has been very clear about that, no country can tolerate rockets into our city, no country can tolerate terrorist tunnels. but there are others in the international community who, unlike the united states or canada or australia and some people in europe who stood up with israel and elsewhere in the world, there are some who say, well, you have a right of
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self-defense but if they fire at you from a populated and urban kw areas, you really don't have a right to defend yourself because some civilians will be killed. barring the example that i talked about of the british air force in copenhagen, you cannot fight the german area because they are embedded in populated areas. you never would have conquered normandy. and coming up, the last part of my interview with the prime minister of israel benjamin netanyahu. he responds to anti-semitism. that and much more as "hannity" continues from tel aviv tonight.
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welcome back to "hannity." we're on the ground in tel aviv. this is the last part of my interview with prime minister benjamin netanyahu. >> 10,000 rockets, i was told, in ten years. i went to -- >> so,000 rockets? >> 10,000 rockets. >> that's a small town. >> on the border. >> kids can't play outside. they built an indoor play ground for the kids. what would have happened if you didn't have the iron dome and do you not expect those that want the supreme leader constantly saying they want to wipe israel off the map, this is a challenge to stay ahead technologically. >> all the time. all the time. you're absolutely right on that. but i think it's not a technological battle. it's a moral battle of moral
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clarity. we have to recognize who these people are. you know, hamas and gaza danced and cheered when ne9/11 took place. they viewed bin laden as a hero. in israel, everybody grieved, wept with the united states. people say it's an asymmetrical warfare. but it's an asymmetrical adversaries. we believe in human rights. we believe in protecting civilians. we try to do that. they believe in the exact opposite. they want as many civilian deaths on their own side, not only on our side. and i think that's the asymmetry and the challenge for all of us. >> what do you make, based on what you just said, the rise of
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anti-semitism? what do you make of that? where is this coming from considering there is no moral equivalency here. this seems to be up is down and white is black mentality? >> i think in certain parts of the world, especially in western europe, there's islamist anti-semitism and radical, political parties and they say, skip moralities, let's just do away with israel. but for the islamic radical groups, remember, you're ultimately the target. they attack us because they believe that we are you. and that you are us and in one sense of the word, we are you,
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we are a believer of democracy but without fault doing the best that we can to protect ourselves against these vial enemies. and i think most americans understand exactly what i'm saying. >> the polls show that. >> i think it's beyond the polls. i think there's a sensibility is there. it depends on the moral clarity to fight this evil when we see it and now we see it. >> one last, last question, i worry whether or not radical islam is so much bigger than people even imagine, beyond these groups, we're talking about comparing radical islam versus moderate islam, the moderate's awfully quiet, i would argue, out of fear or out
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of agreement? is the number much larger, those that buy into this evil ideology? is it a much bigger part of the pop asi population than one could even imagine? >> even a small percentage of radicalism is a very big number and they certainly terrorize others. there's no question that they do terrorize many, many in the muslim world who don't want to be part of that. i think the greatest injury we face is that these -- these islamist terrorist groups or nations have weapons of mass death. look at the danger that we face when they have rockets and missiles. now imagine what kind of danger we'd have if they can put a nuclear warhead on top of these missiles? that's the dap injunger that isg from iran. with this great battle, one of these militants backed by iran,
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sponsored by iran, if they have a nuclear umbrella, if iran can intimidate the u.s. with intercontinental missiles, carrying nuclear weapons, then we bring history to a different level altogether. some people say, you're just saying it. think about it. this is the danger that i've been pointing to. it's not a spin. it's not a whim. it's a clinical diagnosis of a pathological movement that is sweeping our area but will soon come to a theater near you. it has to be stopped now. the ones who are standing right now in front of this tsunami is israel. support israel. support yourself. >> mr. prime minister, thank you for your time. god speed, too. >> thank you. coming up, the last
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in washington, american warplanes are conducting air drops of humanitarian aid tonight i side iraq. the president has also authorized targeted air strikes against terrorists. this comes on a backdrop of an approaching genocide. ed henry is standing by on the white house lawn. good evening, ed. >> reporter: the president, of course, you'll mention a couple of months ago talked about the growing threat from isis. we haven't heard much from the president about it since then but early this morning went behind closed doors and reviewed those options and moved forward with humanitarian aid. he will, he says, if he needs to protect american interests. bott bottom line, what we did not hear from the president is a strategy moving forward to contain isis which is gobbling up territory not just in iraq but in syria. brett? >> tonight is also primary
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night. tennessee senator lamar alexander easily won in the primary there. alexander defeating joe carr and five others. he's seeking a third term in office. this was the last real chance for the tea party candidates to offset an establishment republican senator. stay with fox news throughout the night. let's head back to sean hannity. welcome back to "hannity." we're on the ground in israel. yesterday i got an extensive tour with israel with dore gold. we continue the third and final installment of my tour of the old city. >> those who think the middle east must be painted with one color, one stripe, they don't tolerate other religions, for them it's very important to say
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that christianity is invalid. how do they do that? when we say here's where the temple was, they say there never was a temple. even president clinton said, you know something, i'm a christian and according to my tradition, jesus went to the temple as part of his jewish faith. so you're not only defying prime minister barack but also the christian world but that whole business of temple denial becmi east. the palestinians tried to spread this vicious lie about our tradition. i don't go into questioning their traditions. >> sure. >> if they have a certain tradition and they believe in a certain faith as long as it doesn't harm me, i will respect that and respect their faith. >> first of all, what an
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incredible sight. what are we looking at? >> the temple mount. when i say the temple mount, it's called mt. mariah. it was flattened and that's where the second temple was built and then remodeled. >> the first temple being solomon. >> solomon. >> and then that temple destroyed and the second temple built about 400 years later? >> yes. and this was the center for jews. they would bring their sacrifices and the pilgrimage festival and passover and this was the heart of jewish national and religious life. now, the temple mount, also
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known as mt. mariah, is about 35 acres in size and had a retaining wall. in fact, it still has a retaining wall going all the way around it. that famous wall right there next to western >> wishes and dreams the temple of mount itself. why is the western world becomes a nag -- magnet for jewish destruction? >> it was intact. those are roman-style stones the other reason is this. the center of the temple was holy of holies. it isn't inside of the holy of
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holies only visited by high priests once per year. we call a foundation stone, is regarded by jews as a place where creation began. what is left is still there. when the muslims conquered jerusalem they built two islamic shrines they built the mosque right there and the dome of the rock. sometimes called the mosque of omar. the khalif led the conflict of jerusalem. under that gold dome is the foundation stone, the center of the holy of holies under that mosque. just in the standpoint of getting along with your neighbors a religious jew
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shouldn't go up in the tefrmel mount. only a purified priest can go up there, once per year. purifie purified. there are those that say you can go to the extremes. but that is the center, the magnet of jewish life. it's over here. and obviously, the temple mount is important for christians and christianity. if you read the new testament you find apostles, who are jewish, went up and gave sacrifices there like any other jewish person. that is why president clinton said to palestinian leader yasser arafat if you say the temple never existed, you're not only defying the jewish faith, but my christian faith.
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>> in that sense you've given a great history of the essence of a lot of the conflict of it. it's yet still today, you have christians and jews and muslims, etc., they come here. like a convergence. >> yes. it's a convergence of three different religions. for christians, the real high point is the church where according to christian tradition, jesus was buried for days until he rose. is in this this tiny area. the church of the hole temple is a ten minute walk from here. >> okay. they have the stations. >> stations of the cross. where jesus carried the cross, stopped, where he walked. >> yes. >> one last thing you wanted to say? >> in light of what's happening in the middle east, isis, threat
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to freedom of religion anywhere. for anyone m in the world to put pressure on the city of israel to redivide the city of jerusalem and pull us out, we're the protectors of jerusalem for great faiths. i hope caring americans and world citizens will fight for jerusalem and keeping the city lighted and free. it's not broken. don't try to fix it. >> great to see you. thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for a great tour. >> coming up, more "hannity" right after the break. as we report from tel aviv. stay with us. your eyes. even 10 miles away. they can see the light of a single candle.
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news reporting live free or die, obamacare in new hampshire. and anchored by our friend, bret baier. thanks for joining us, have a great night. :00 sean hannity has benjamin netanyahu. good night from washington.