tv Justice With Judge Jeanine FOX News August 10, 2014 1:00am-2:01am PDT
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>> what a pleasure to have james burton with us. good night, god bless and stay tuned for justice with judge >> breaking news tonight, the united states continues to attack isis in iraq today. conducting humanitarian air strikes. multiple personnel carriers and trucks destroyed. all u.s. aircraft safely exited the area. more on this, but first to my open. >> so the united states is back in iraq, or at least over it, targeting the terror group isis in support of the delivery of humanitarian supplies to tens of thousands of terrified religious refugees. isis now chasing those innocents
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into the mountains where many are dying of thirst, starvation and worse. their mo, ruthless, brutal and barbaric, a group even al qaeda considers too extreme. and they are coming for us. they as much as told us in 2009. al-baghdadi, the now leader of ice sis offered these famous parting words to his jailer, we'll see you in no. and in the interim, isis's ragtag team of 800 has grown to more than 10,000 today. it's without doubt the mes well funded terrorist organization in the world. so why should you dare? >> recently baghdadi flatly stated his intention. our last message is to the americans. we will will be in direct
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confrontation and the sons of islam have prepared for such a day. for we are with you watching. further proof of their hatred for americans. >> when i hear thijs like that, it scares the hell out of me. i'm not going to blame all the problems of the world on barack obama, but the problem is barack obama is too inexperienced, too
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out of touch and too disengaged to protect us. earlier today, as he discussed the limited air strikes in iraq, the become drop was his helicopter on which his bags were packed for yet another vacation. this time in martha's vineyard. so you shouldn't be concerned because the president has reassuringly told us -- >> my team has been vigilant even before isis went into mosul about foreign fighters and jihadists gathering in syria and iraq who might potentially launch attacks outside the region against western targets and u.s. targets. >> against western targets and u.s. targets? so i should feel better? okay, baghdadi says he's watching you and you say you're watching him. my take? if he's been watching you, he knows of your feckless foreign policy. you don't have a clear mission,
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and you don't have a clear strategy. you watch them slaughter in syria and iraq and now you go on vacation. now i'm trying to not be too hard on you, mr. president, but your track record doesn't exactly put the fear of god in any of those terrorists. example -- you were wrong when you scoffed at the idea of a genocide or ethnic cleansing in iraq if u.s. troops were withdrawn. you were wrong when you pool pulled american troops out of iraq saying it would be irresponsible. and today you even blamed george bush. you were wrong when you called isis a vj squad. they're nor callous than anyone could have predicted. they're a well organized
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military operation. savvy on the battlefield, experienced in weaponry maneuvers and war tactics. you were wrok when you dithered on that red line in syria has isis gained strength and military experience in that war. you were wrong leaving an inexperienced iraqi military with our weapons they dropped at the first sign of isis. the same weapons now being used against their victims. and this week, mr. president, you announce a limited humanitarian engagement with supporting air strikes. effective? >> these are pin prick strikes. this is a 600-mile front. isis is an army on the move, very strong and armed now with our weapons, advanced american weapons it captured in mosul. this cannot be done. if you're going to have an air campaign, you're not going to hit an artillery piece there and a truck over there.
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that's preposterous. you either do it seriously or you don't do it at all. >> so no one knows what your mission is. you've done nothing to prevent the rise of this nation-destroying genocide call, radical islamic army. and you say your team has been watching them? yeah, i watch them, too. on television. you didn't try to help the shiites and the christians. one million of them displaced. the humanitarian aid is war rabbited, but now you send help because, quote, america cannot turn a blind eye? now? i guess you had your blinders on the past few months as the bombings and the killings and the beheadings have taken place with grotesque acts of violence committed against women and children because they believe in jesus. whole towns are now devoid of their original christian inhabitants. now our enemies have become
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emboldened because of you. al qaeda believes they won the war in iraq and we lost it. problem? you make political decisions, not military ones. you fail to learn from the past. you failed to assess future danger. and you're reactive, and then even you're not effective. if ever there were a question, the world now sees the consequences of an america with an inexperienced, disengaged president. so what is our foreign policy? because no one knows. i have an idea. your limited air strikes are a joke. they've taken out a handful of weapons and terrorists. what you need to do is you need to ramp it up. you need a strategy and a goal no matter how long it takes. a day, a week, a year or more. and you have to have the stamina to see it through. i told you what to do two months
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ago. my resolution -- air strikes. bomb them, keep bombing them, bomb them again and again. and i don't care how long it takes. just take out isis, take out their convoys and take out those troops. it is true that americans are war weary. too many have had loved ones killed or maimed in iraq. but we were in iraq then for the wrong reasons. there were no weapons of mass destruction. today it's different. this is a reverse crusade. muslim extremists looking to kill christians and jews. yes, today it's different. they are coming for us. and that's my open. with me now brigit i'll start
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with you, are they coming for us? >> yes, they are. they are recruiting on the internet. they are utilizing twitter, youtube, everything they can to recruit. they are evening using translation apps in order to communicate with different languages with werners, english, germ german, french. and they are recruiting. we now know according to u.s. intelligence that there are 12,000 westerners fighting with squall. why would someone want to be recruited into this lunacy. >> this is the most media savvy terrorist group we've ever seen. if you're a troubled young
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individual in the west, someone who's grown up playing violent video games, you're going to be attracted to this. if you're a young muslim who fills disaffected example. what isis is doing, beheading people, putting heads on stakes, judge. this is unprecedented really. what they're doing is so attractive to disaffected muslims in the west. a young muslim in florida, a u.s. citizen went to syria, blew himself up. more and more are going to come back, judge. when they go, they're becoming battle hardened jihadists. they're not going to go to college and get their bachelor's degree. >> what's your reaction to isis saying they're going to raise their flag of allah over the white house? >> they mean it. people ask who should we believe? i say believe those who say they want to kill you. they have a goal, i zi s has a goal and they are going after
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their goal. and first they're going to kill the jews and the christians, and then they're going to come for america. we are the bull's eye. this is not going to stop in the middle east. they have huge plans worldwide. they are recruiting worldwide. i just saw a video where they are holding signs of isis around the world in different cities to show that this movement is spreading worldwide. and their goal is america. and they already said we're coming to the white house. >> and eric how is it that this organization is so well funded, so organized? just a few months ago, there were 800 of them. and then it was like a domino. how is it that they're so powerful? >> what they're doing is when they conquer a town, when they conquered mosul, they're seizing local banks. they've got hundreds of millions of dollars out of the largest bank in mosul. now their worth is like $2 billion. basically what they're doing, judge, when they conquer a town, they conquer a village, they're taking all the spoil, they're
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taking all the money opinion and most importantly, they're taking that u.s. military hardware that was left behind. and why westerners are attracted to this group, it's kind of what that call jihadi cool. these guys are on facebook, twitter. it's all a big joke. they make it seem so cool to go overseas, become part of a caliphate. it's a very dangerous thing. and one more thing to remember, think of benghazi. think of -- it doesn't have to be on the u.s. mainland where isis strikes. it can be a u.s. embassy, a u.s. consulate anywhere around the world. but make no mistake, they're coming for us. >> when the president said this past january that isis was like a jv team, you know, you can't put on a lakers uniform and, you know, make believe you're a big deal. he underestimated or didn't understand what was going on. do you think that he is in a situation or in a position to be able to protect us if he doesn't even know what the threat is? >> no, he is not. he is clueless about the threat. as you very eloquently stated in your opening statement. he just does not know what's going on. we have the community organizer
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right now running our government and does not where to start and where to end. he has underestimated our enemy. isis is nothing more than al qaeda than boka haram. what brings all of these organizations together is their goal of establishing a caliphate where islam reigns supreme above all religions. that's what they believe. they believe islam is supreme and every other religion should submit to islam. that's why they've got their eyes on us. and this president has underestimated them over and over again. and not only them, but al qaeda, all the other radical groups worldwide. >> all right, thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you, judge. all right, and coming up, more on the christian genocide in iraq. next, and sproet in tonight's insta poll. will isis come to america? facebook or tweet me.
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>> tonight, tens of thousands of minorities in iraq face torture and genocide at the hands of isis. all while isis militants say this is only the beginning. christians spearheading the fight to end genocide in iraq. good evening, mark. is this christian genocide? >> the brutality is unprecedented. this is a full blown christian genocide. men are being massacred. women are being raped. children are being beheaded. they're trying to wipe off christianity from the entire middle east. >> and when you say this, how are you familiar with what is going on there? you're actually speaking to people over there? >> sure, every day we're receiving hundreds of phone calls from americans that have
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family members in iraq. and they've woen up with the red death stamp of isis in their home. >> hold on, mark. let's talk about the red death stamp of isis. christians are given an option, either convert or die. and their homes are marked with this. it almost looks like a smiley face. what is that? >> it's reminiscent of the holocaust. the ultimatum is convert, pay a tax or death by the sword. >> all right, and what do they doo? go back to the home and how do they find out what the decision is? >> well, they fled their homes and their families are wanting just a chance to live and they're up north right now. they left with nothing but the clothes on their back. they don't have typers, they don't have food, they don't have water. this is a global humanitarian
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crisis. and 400,000 christians are dying of thirst and hunger. >> are you concerned this will come to the united states? this crazy, insane isis will come to our country.? >> well, i can tell you, the leader of isis, when he was in u.s. custody, he said, like you opened up the show, i will see you in new york. that speaks for itself. >> mark, other than that, do you believe that they are here now? >> well, right now the intelligence that we're receiving in our talks for the white house and state department are basically let's contain them over there. and we want to make sure we do everything we can to make sure they're not here and they don't get here. but we can tell you, isis started as a regional problem. now it's the world's problem. so it is our problem. >> all right. and you say you've been in talks with the white house. my understanding is that you've discussed this as, you know, two
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months ago with people in the white house? >> right. last week i had a meeting at the white house. myself and delegates from michigan for the entire community. >> why hasn't the white house done anything until yesterday? or thursday night? >> well, we've been sounding the alarm two months ago. i'm happy to say they've finally moved but we've lost so many innocent lives. people are being wiped off the face of this earth just because they're christian. >> mark, thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> thank you. >> coming up, the president finally orders air strikes in iraq to fight isis. and actually calls them a success. but is it too little too late? that's. h. h
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more u.s. air strikes in iraq as the president says his operation does not have a timetable. what is his strategy, if you want to call it that? is it too little too late? with me now colonel sheaffer. are these u.s. air strikes enough to stop isis? >> so far, to be honest, it's a joke. look, there's three things you have to do here, judge. first off, you've got to make it clear that we're in this to win it. even without boots on the ground, you've got to be very definitive. there's huge issues at stake here. they took the mosul dam, a huge resource. if they destroy that, they destroy a lot of resources for the people of iraq. secondly, you have to make it very clear you're out to defeat their command and control. this is something that can be done rapidly and frankly may have to go into syria to do it. third, it has to be very, very overwhelming. if it were up to me, i would be
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using b-52s. i was talking to a general on the drive in who said in iran, i felt sorry for the enemy. we're not doing sfishlt work to put the fear of god into isis. >> i'm not sure that's what the president wants to do. i want to go something he said a few seconds ago. you said without boots on the ground. now, a few months ago, the president announced that he had 300 guys there, and i understand the number is now 600. so we do have boots on the ground in iraq, correct? >> we have a clear policy we put out two months ago. the president has to define what our objectives are. objectives should be clearly stated and the military resources should be focused on those. he's not done that yet. more importantly, the pieces of iraq which have been taken, we don't have boots on the ground. our best bet, judge, is the kurds. they're organized, they're christian for the most part,
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they're economically stable and they are our best allies. so we need to basically figure out a way to use boots on the ground, not ours, but theirs. and then combine that with very effective air strikes and a plan. >> but we are not giving them the weaponry that they need, correct? >> no. we're not, no. and that's part of the problem. it goes to your point. >> and the irony is that isis is using our weapons we gave to the iraqis that they dropped. >> we've been trying to convince congress to pass our get our stuff back act of 2014 which allows us to go back and kill any vehicle, tank weapon we isis has with impunity. again, we need to go in and clean this up. we helped create this. a little bit of history. general austin, the current command, central command. president obama overruled him. now general austin should be allowed to do what's militarily necessary to stop isis and begin walking it back. we could do this. we can do this.
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>> does america -- i mean, do americans have the appetite for this now. hey, wait a minute, that's their fight, it's over there. >> the iraqi people no doubt have to sort this for themselves. judge, that's different. we're talking about isis, a terrorist organization. as you point out in your opening it's more effectively trained than any other terrorist organization or planet. we are up against someone who will do what al qaeda tried to do in 2001, but probably do it better and more effective. they're talking about being in your city new york. they're out to do that. i would take them at their word. >> the president interestingly enough said today that his team has known about this. >> let me be very clear, the intelligence on this has been coming in since before january.
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we've seen this over the past year, basically go into the critical mess it is now. judge, as early as january, february, congress was being grieved on this, and yet the administration was friending that everything is just fine. and i do believe it's because there's an interest to not do anything against any muslim group, no matter how extreme they are. which is totally insane based on the intelligence coming in. >> all right, lieutenant colonel tony shafer. >> coming up, chaos around the globe and our commander-in-chief goes on vacation.
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reaction to the president's handling and response to isis up to this point? >> well, i think it's completely inadequa inadequate. and i think it's a further piece of evidence that the president isn't paying attention and hasn't been paying attention. in his remarks announcing u.s. returned to activity in iraq, the president said he had two objectives, one, protect the american personnel in the capital of the kurdish regional authority, and second, to deliver lou man therien assistance. these are very limgted objectives. and they're not being performed adequately, at least as of now. particularly the humanitarian assistance. there's still no evidence that there's people on the ground distributing it once it falls out of the sky. all it guarantees that women, children, elderly, ill people won't get it. but the real point is t doesn't fit into any kind of
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coherent plan, at least not anything the president has announced to deal with the threat that isis poses, first in syria and iraq, but almost certainly in short order thereafter in western europe or the united states. so the reaction so far is certainly better than nothing, but it's completely inadequate. >> as you say, it's certainly better than nothing, but we've been speaking to sources who tell us they haven't seen anything come to them. it has to be haphazardhaphazard. these people are in the mountains. >> we went through this in 1991 after the first persian gulf war when saddam hussein still in power began to persecute the kurds who fled into the mountains in northern iraq and into turkey. tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, no food, no water, no
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and that may be the explanation for why not. >> okay, so let's talk about isis coming to the united states. do you believe that some of them are already here? i mean, we just -- go back, talking about how they are actually recruiting online. they are disaffected american youth who are just used to being on line and say hey why not, i'll join them. >> all over the world it's going on. we have news reports that elements of the al qaeda franchise are beginning to d disaffiliate from al qaeda and take up with the islamic state. and this is another piece of evidence that the threat of terrorism continues to grow. just because it doesn't have a coherent organizational chart like the government or general mo ters doesn't mean that it's not growing. and i think that does mean
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recruitment in the west. and i think it also means as a number of people have observed that veterans of isis or other krift groups can certainly come back to the u.s. or western europe. the real danger eshd be focusing on in iraq is not letting isis control territory for a sustained period of time where it can set up a state, set up a base of operations and conduct terrorist operations, not on a lone wolf or one-off basis, but much more coherently, much more well planned. the danger exists now. if they can get control of a piece of territory, it's only going to get much worse. >> all right. ambassador, thanks so much for being with us this evening. and tonight, outrage over the murder of a 36-year-old off duty border patrol agent. gunned down by two illegal immigrants who repeatedly entered the united states illegally and had repeatedly been deported.
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his parents, his wife, and his two sons witnessed his murder. his father was shot as well. with me now, penal county sheriff. good evening, sheriff. our border is in chaos. a border agent murdered this week. illegals deported two, three, four times end up back in the country. how do you do your job? >> yes, judge. our heart breaks for agent vega and his family. here in my county, penal county, arizona, try 12, 15 times. our deputies are arresting them for state crimes. no one should be scratching their head wondering why they're appearing a 16th time. the president has undermined the law. >> you and i have been in law enforcement for many years. when you identify someone coming
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in, is there a detainer on that person. do does i.c.e. take them? >> we had 123,000, the last figure by the border patrol, just here in the tucson sector. where we can arrest and have force and consequences. when there's a detainer and we turn them back to the border patrol, what essentially happens, there are no consequences when it comes to the immigration. and that's where it really has become a revolving door. for them. okay, let's assume they err from mexico. >> then what? >> they're ready to try the next day. if not only the 123,000, and i would like to connect it to the
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very important issue of isis, if 123,000 illegals that are apprehended here, and god news how many haven't been apprehended, does it stand to reason that others with military training and millions of dollars in resources, what is the likelihood of them sneaking in the border right here in the southwest, creating very dangerous national security threat to our nation. >> you know, you have to wonder, as i sit sit here listening to you, how do you get through the day? you have to feel that you're almost just on a -- one of those things those guinea pigs run around on. >> hampster wheel. it's like a hampster wheel. it's like a nightmare that doesn't end. this is where the states, just like sgovr nor berry did, christine jones wants to do it here. they have to assert the tenth amendment while the federal government and the president has failed at his core
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responsibility to protect our country. forget worrying about everywhere else. i get iraq, i get isis because i served there as an army officer. but what about putting america and our interest firsts what about securing our border, protecting us from this obvious national security threat. >> i am convinced and, you know, who knows, but when we let in these young men who are self-admitted ms-13 gang members who say to us, i killed to get into ms-13 and i'm proud of my gang affiliation, what makes us think we have to take them in? if they're coming here because they're so afraid of the gang violence, why are we letting them? >> you're so right, judge. and i tell you that 2008 law has to be corrected immediately. we should take these unaccompanied juveniles and reunite them with their families. if we don't do this, it's going
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to happen again. there's going to be another 90 now. and anybody who thinks that these kids are going anywhere, think again. we've got act. this republican congress, the house has been doing a good job fighting and stopping bad legislation. so i as one am cheering them on to stop this president from circumventing the congress. we have to stand up and stop the power grab. >> thanks so much for being with us this evening. >> coming up, more on the brutal murder of an offduty border agent and the message the national border patrol council has for the obama administration. stay with us for this one. if you're suffering from constipation or irregularity, powders may take days to work. for gentle overnight relief, try dulcolax laxative tablets. ducolax provides gentle overnight relief, unlike miralax that can take up to 3 days. dulcolax, for relief you can count on.
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>> more reaction tonight of the murder of an off duty border patrol agent by two illegals. take a look at the angry tweet sent out by the national border patrol council this week. quote, border patrol agent murdered by two illegal aliens. victim of lax border enforcement. blood on the hands of congress and the president. with me now, national border patrol council vp shawn moran. good evening, sean. do you agree with that statement? >> yes, ma'am, i do. i wrote it. so it would be kind of disingenuous if i disagreed. >> all right, so why do you
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think blood is on the hands of the president and congress? >> well, it's not just this president. it's not just this congress. we have not had solid border enforce. since president eisenhower. we do not take border enforcement seriously in this country. and until we do, we're going to unfortunately see incidents like this occur. >> but we've never seen it this bad. i mean, i don't remember hearing about, you know, gang bangers coming in and tens of thousands of people. i mean, this is something that we've never seen before. i don't care what president you want to focus on, correct? >> i think that's the problem, judge. i think we don't hear about it and people aren't aware that it's occurring. people know who brian terry is. he was killed because weapons from this country were sent down to mexico. >> fast and furious. >> but people have never heard or very few people have heard of
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agents who have been killed in the line of duty. if this was a border patrol agent killed on the border of israel or iraq, everybody would know about it because it's happening here in america. >> let me ask you this. it's got to be a source of tremendous frustration. i'm reading about this. and i'm a former da. we've got this one guy arrested four times for entering illegally. he gets a fine of $10, a fine of $50, a fine of $100. and then the other guy deported twice. i mean, do you guys feel that what you're doing -- i mean, how -- how do you even get people to be a part of the border patrol if they make arrests and it's just a fleeing door. >> that's a good question, judge. i don't know why anybody would want to be a border patrol agent right now. we're taking a pay cut. we do not have adequate manpower out in the field especially for backup units.
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and we have these handcuffs that have been put onboarder patrol agents in terms of enforcement. we're not allowed to do the job. neither party wants us to be effective. i can't remember the last administration that wanted us to be effective. in my opinion of immigration enforcement that we take has been curtailed by policy and my actions taken by both congress. the border patrol itself, customs border protection and the president. >> but right now, i mean, in terms of what's going on now, i think that would you agree that there is more reluctance to exercise more discretion that isis isn't doing what they were doing 30 years ago? >> judge, the problem is dhs, the border patrol, they have always had a history of backing down in the face of opposition, whether it be from the aclu
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hispanic kriegts groups. we were very effective of making arrests of illegal aliens, using our transportation system. people complained. the government of mexico complained. and what do you and what do you know? the next thing is we cannot go out and go after illegals using the transportation system unless we have actionable intelligence. >> you know that is frustrating, i'm sure. thank you for being with us, this evening. >> thank you, your honor. coming up, the pope finally decides to help the christians in iraq. your responses to last week's show coming up. and it's your last chance to vote. what do you think? will isis come to america? female announcer: sunday's your last chance to save big
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two weeks ago i said pope francis needed to protect christians in the middle east. it is time for the papacy to get out in front of this christian massacre. you can put political pressure on nations. you can provide sanctuary. you have resources for humanitarian aid but it's most of all, you have the power of the pulpit. you have the power to change the world. yesterday, the pope appointed a cardinal as his personal envoy to iraq and called on world leaders to help end the crisis. a lot of you responded to my open on sunday night on israel. robin says the president can be worried about matters on the world stage there are too many golf games to be played so lighten up, judge. and rocco says, give him a
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break. he has to play gulf, fund raise and party with hollywood millionaires. and peggy says he gives more thought to which club to use on a golf shot. but marie says how about walking in his shoes before accusing him constantly. we have a hard time governing our own lives. my response? someone with a strong moral core can generally make decisions without a great amount of difficulty. think washington, lincoln, reagan. i got to tell you, judge, i can't watch you any more. all this does is raise my blood pressure. you offer no solutions. my response? you don't listen with both ears. i always give my two cents. like mr. president, stop lying to us, stop legislating, stop
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welcoming gang members through the border. close the border and when you do those things, put on your big boy pants so everyone knows you're serious. and now for the results of tonight's poll, we ask will isis come to america? beth says everyone is coming to america, why not them to. holly says, isis is probably walzing over the border. they may not do as much damage as in iraq but they will try. and ed says hopefully they won't be allowed to and some people won't still be on vacation if they try to. barbara says some are already hear and more will come. denying this will not make it untrue. and what is to stop them? our borders are wide open and the world knows it. dawn says i strongly suspect they are already here.
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