hello, everyone. this is "the five." now whenever a comedian dies tragically, the headline always reads sad clown. it's the cliche, laughter is born from suffering. but comics are like construction workers. once in awhile a great one falls, like last night. remember when you first saw him. >> remember me? you once called me the nutso from outer space.

>> i mean, of course, i'm dreaming. that's why mary never heard of me. >> sorry, real thing. i had to zap your mind to make you forget. >> when the lovable commit suicide, platitudes will flow. people say, he had had so much going for him and he was so funny as if both prevent suicide. but clinical depression creates a layer of self-loathing. you have all your parts, yet inside, you're broken. he was known for his demons. a label for addiction. alcohol and drugs are the nonstigmatized remedy for depression. the life of the party if you drink, but unstable seeing a shrink. while it's better to be rich than poor, money doesn't buffer you from affliction. so what does? ask a happy person and the answer is never i'm happy because i'm a comedian. that's the rub with williams. the job was translating them for

us day in and day out and that's really hard. waxing sentimentalist is fine, but follow mork's example instead. williams often performed for a troops. they were not sad clowns and will never trend on twitter. williams understood that. we should too. so there are so many entry points to his career that your age dictates the robin williams that you know. at 49, it was mork. >> i remember mork and mindy. and their house was supposedly in boulder, colorado. i grew up in denver and i believed their house was in boulder. i thought it was cool we were all from colorado. that's when i first knew him. seeing that clip with the fonz, i remember that too. i remember watching that on tv. >> he started on "happy days" and blew up from there. >> i don't remember the "happy

days." mork and mindy, but some of the phenomenal movies he's been. what an actor. so many characters. he had 50 different characters in aladin. my favorite is cage. but for me the best robin williams was at his best when he was sitting with jay leno or johnny carson or david letterman and just vamping. it was phenomenal. it was so much fun to watch. >> speaking of the films, let's throw a montage and i'll get to the pair over here. >> good morning, vietnam! >> hello! oh, i'm sorry to frighten you, dear. i must look like a yetty in this getup. >> excuse me? are you looking at me? did you rub my lamp?

did you wake me up? did you bring me here and you're walking out on me, i u don't think so. >> you do marshal graham or michael kid, michael kid or madonna. >> look at me, son. it's not your fault. >> what was your robin williams favorite? >> i'm with eric on "the birdcage." i think he was so funny. it didn't make it as big as the others, but his role was hilarious. mork and mindy because i had older siblings that watched the show. but "good will hunting" when he gives advice about love, it's one of the best scenes from any movie. it's very sad, but your monologue was really good. he didn't just show up and have to act. he had to show up in the face of

mental illness and make people laugh, which is really hard to make feel laugh regardless, but he did it battling depression. if there was one silver lining, it's that people are talking more about depression and it has become something more not mainstream, but before it was very stigmatizing. people can have conversations about getting help and spotting the warning signs. maybe the real reasons why people do this. one of my best. friends, her mom committed suicide and people said that's a selfish act committing suicide. people don't understand they are dealing with a lot of mental health issues. they see it as a relief and sparing other people because they don't think they are worth st staying around. >> bob, bringing up the depression aspect and also the fact that he had drug issues, which were well known. so well known i made fun of him about it last week. do you suspect that the drugs lead to depression or that depression leads to drugs as a

form of self-medication? >> the latter. i thought your monologue was excellent. my favorite was "good morning, vietnam yes, it vietnam." when he fell in love, robin williams was a sad man. you could see the depression in him. people who are depressed, of the people who commit suicide, 40,000 a year, 20%, 25% are alcoholics or addicts. generally the reason for that is alcohol and drugs take the pain away. i mean it's the way that they can deal with it. he decided some years ago to go cold turkey, which i find amazing. very few people can do that. i can only imagine the depression to come back and n and not have access to alcohol and drugs. but he was haunted. which made him, in many ways,

that's where his talent comes from. >> we all heard about this like everybody else last night. conan o'brien informed his audience at the time and here's the reaction to this. >> this is unusual and upsetting, but we got some news during the show that robin williams has passed away. it's absolutely shocking and horrifying and so upsetting on every level. >> so usually when something like this happens shs you immediately think it's a hoax. it always shows up somewhere on twitter. >> we have to double check to make sure, but that's terrible news to hear any way. i'm sure they knew each other and were good friends. it's very difficult news to deliver to the audience. what's interesting is what you saw in the media outpouring whether social media or on

television like now, we value people who can make us laugh. and we mourn them because we think, now we're going to miss them so much because of all they did for us. it's interesting in hollywood how many people just this year when we talked about philip seymour hoffman, whether it's the drugs or the depression that drives one another, seemingly outside of hollywood, you think, gosh, these people have everything they could ever want in life. yet somehow they are extremely lonely and so vulnerable they decide to take their own lives. >> is it possible that not having everything you want prevents you from thinking too much about the suffering? >> you talk about having everything, but this is a disease. you have so much how come you have cancer. how dare you have cancer. here's my question to you. people who are that funny and tap into that sense of humor, the aggregate, is there a dark

side? is it because they have a dark side? >> i mean the comedians, i deal with a lot of them on red eye. to come up with material, they have to think about dark things. it's the weird absurd parts of life that turn into material. and he went pretty far into the darker parts of his life and his world. and that might take a toll. >> he went deep diving into those intricacies of people, of humanity. that was what was so funny. woe he would say, ha ha, look at this. >> he tried to help himself. he checked into rehab to get clean. hazelton has an excellent program for depression and alcoholism and drug addiction. he went there for two months and then came back out. but then the problem is he took on a lot of work. and it's like lindsay lohan.

you can't come off these things and go right back into a whole lot of work. people are going to expect you to do well. >> people seem to think performers are more likely to commit suicide. i looked this up. they actually u do. musicians, authors, artists and comics tend to. what beats them are dentists. could you blink depression or a suicidal thought with performing? >> i don't know. dr. brad is always in a charming mood when i'm around. i don't know if it's the laughing gas, i haven't had a cavity in forever. i think fame has a lot to do with it too. again, when you're in the public eye, you enjoy the public eye for the most part. maybe he didn't. but you're looking to get awards and accolades and do what you love. if you're making people laugh, you get your feedback by making

them laugh or delivering a great performance. there's always the pleasure to please these more so than regular folks that aren't famous. celebrities have the same issues as everybody else. it's just heightened because everything they do is under a microscope. i think it's pretty incredible that robin williams didn't have a negative headline surrounding him. a lot of them have negative headlines. he never did that. he kind of got ahead of the people that may have said something negative about his aaddiction by putting it out there. then no one can criticize him. he even joked about going back to e rehab for a tune-up. i think it's really hard if you're mentally ill, period, but to be in the public eye and the pressure to make people laugh, it could have been the reason. >> very few of those comedians who stand up there, you think about movies. you have the ability to have another take. they can do ten takes.

a comedian has to stand up there with a brick wall behind him and microphone in hand and perform right away. they are going to laugh or not going to laugh. a lot of them did go out there stoned because it was a way to kind of deal -- i think in a funny way, they are dark. they are also not really like people people. we went down to a comedy club and had a chance to talk to some of the comedians afterwards. two of whom were alcoholics. one guy from australia struggled with his demons. he said that's the way it is in this business. >> i want to get to this before we go. this is a tape of the officials discussing the cause of death. it's kind of grim. >> the personal assistant was able to gain access to mr. williams' bedroom and entered to find him clothed in a seated

position unresponsive with a belt r secured around his neck with the other end of the belt nudged between the closet door and the door frame. the preliminary results of the forensic examination revealed supporting physical signs that mr. williams' life ended with asphyxia due to hanging. >> listen to a press conference, when do we reach it's the none of our business threshold? >> i think they crossed a line. i don't know why that couldn't -- anything that reporters are looking for for their stories could have been done in a press release or in a statement from the coroner. they made it very clear. i don't see the need to have a press conference like that for that kind of detail. >> i guess maybe because there's so many reporters there. >> i guess, it's a huge appetite for it. tv ratings, everything spiked when the news broke. people wanted to know.

i'm for more information. i wasn't bothered by it. there's some indication of maybe a cut to a wrist and possibly some sort of note. i would like to know. i want to know more. >> thousands of people try to kill themselves in america. try, but they go to emergency rooms. this goes down very much the impact, at least from our standpoint, of john lennon and princess dianna, i put them all on the same level. >> it's interesting the different angles the day after. so "the washington post" took issue with the academy for tweeting out a picture of his character saying you're free. there's been an editorial asking the question, is the suicide contagion? are we glorifying suicide? i think in the days to come, i find it interesting to see where the editorial angle gos on this and people start to look at the issues. it is a pretty good question to ask. with a cartoon, are we

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by e me, that was made by the iraqi government. what i find interesting is the degree to which this issue keeps oncoming up as if this was my decision. in order for us to maintain troops in iraq, we needed the inti invitation of the iraqi government. >> did obama end the war or did the iraqis do it for him? we'll discuss it here. is it unfair to say that the disaster in iraq that president obama talked about over the last several days is a direct consequence of his decisions? is that fair or unfair? >> i'm going to say president obama has a very, very short memory. let's talk about this. put this in context for one minute. president obama just said i can't figure out why they are blaming me for this. he's the one that announced the pullout. in 2010, the head of isis was

released as part of the pulling out of iraq decision. he was a prisoner for four years and then he was released. he's now the one rampaging through iraq. so all of president obama's decisions that he's made are me it's a sizing themselves right now. we made a mistake and we're going to deal with it accordingly. instead he's like, no, i didn't say it. we have it on tape. i think you were generous. you only used three or four of the times. >> we could have gone on, but we have to save time for bob's block at the end. do they think we don't have fap tape of the president? >> e he menlt ending the u.s. involvement. i don't think anyone thought this war was going to go away.

it never should have started. >> okay, fair enough, i understand the never should have started point. but president obama ran for reelection on that point. he doesn't want credit for that? >> i think he's walking a fine line here. let me just say one thing in response to this vj thing. these guys are jv. they are the most worst, horrible murders, but they are only between 2007. if the iraqi military had stood their ground -- >> are they winning? >> they dropped their guns. >> is isis winning? are they taking cities? >> kurds are taking two back. >> of all the things you defend, you're going to defend the jv comment. >> if you had a decent military to stand up, you could have stopped these guys.

>> we have a decent military. one of the things that the pentagon said on friday is that they are frustrated with the limited goals that have been set out because the pentagon's own words, we are not making a dent in the problem. so how does a president expect america to support what he's saying now? i think eric is right. if he would show a little humility, we could say, okay, we're behind you, let's go get him now and we can discuss the fallout and the blame later on. >> the best would be to show a little ownership. i think he would have more people behind him if he would stand up and say, yes, i'm responsible for getting the troops out. i don't believe in military involvement in iraq. however, this problem has escalated so i'm not going to put resources on the ground. so i'm going to be consistent. this is what i'm going to do. but i do take ownership of ending that war in iraq. i think a lot of people would

support him. i listened to him give that speech on the airstrikes. there was a lot of it i agree with. i agree with it that. when you look at the missiles they are looking, people used the word pinprick operation. if this is is in the united states interest, do it all. but don't do the little things to look good. be either 100% in it or out of it. >> they are trying to keep them away. >> you could comment on anything, but let me try to put this question to you. if we do not elect military deal with the actual disease, are we going to basically have symptoms that crop up over and over? and not just in iraq, but all over the world. >> if you say no boolts on the ground to boots that are r already on the ground, they rejoice. they know you don't have the will to fight. he's changing his tune. the reason why president obama is changing his tune is because he refuses to take any blame.

he passes more bucks than an atm. he will never accept victory -- i'm sorry, he will never accept responsibility because to him withdrawal was always more important than victory. victory in iraq was america's victory. withdrawal -- >> what victory? >> we won that war, bob. let me finish. i'm sorry. victory in iraq was america's victory, but withdrawal was his victory. so e he put his own political victory over america's. >> let me just say to you that the idea to say that war was won -- >> joe biden said that. >> fine, joe biden says a lot of things. the point is you put mahmoud la i can in there and say now we won the war, we didn't win that war. >> just saying what the vice president said. >> a lot of troops.

>> they did -- i'll say this. they gave them a chance. the troops gave it a chance and built a lousy government and lousy military. it didn't work. >> surge, baby. hillary clinton has started to distance herself from president obama on foreign policy. one of his strongest supporters got testy about it. we'll tell you what happened, next. for over a decade, doctors have been prescribing nexium to patients just like you.

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yesterday we told you about the war of words being waged between the obama and clinton camps. hillary took issue with president obama's foreign policy failure saying, don't do stupid stuff isn't exactly foreign policy. obama didn't take that down in his golf cart. he had a meeting with lawmakers and alleged criticism.

they used the word they won't let me say. the war of words going on and then hillary clinton providing criticism apologizes or trying to make amends. >> did you bring the popcorn? we knew this was coming. we knew this was coming. we have seen people from the clinton camp. president obama with the question to sort of trap him. we have heard the chattering class, start to criticize the president. this is the shot over the bow from hillary clinton's camp directly. it's going to be really fun to watch. it's brilliant strategy by the clintons. they do this it better than anybody else. i think the obamas don't trust them. she's out of the administration, she's going to start to launch attacks at them and put disstance. she has to do that.

she's going to take heat from the progressives on this, the far left. the more she goes after, the more she'll take. but the strategy is, forget them. they have nowhere else to go. i'm going to be the anointed one. good luck finding somebody else. >>. hang in there, i have a nice sound byte to tee you up. >> what this does, it makes it harder for republican candidates to tie hillary to president obama as a dangerous lefty who puts nus harm's way. she's now essentially john mccain in a pantsuit and getting heat from progressives helps her with undecided and independents who are worried about crazies. so she looks less crazy. that's my theory. >> your thoughts on whether it was good strategy or not and also axelrod pushing back? >> she's trying to be the goldy locks of foreign policy.

maybe she wants to thread the needle. but i also think that president obama, they are in for a very long two years if they decide to take a swipe back every time a democrat tries to distance themselves between now and the election. it's going to happen. it has to come from the top, an instruction to the team that says let the democrats have it out. it's better for us if you keep quiet about it. it's time that president obama stops campaigning. he won, now he's in the second term. he doesn't have to worry about it so much anymore. >> president obama said if you disagree with his policy, it's horse you know what. listen to a few people who also disagreed with the way he handled the situation. >> could we have done more in term its of both overt and covert assistance, i think the answer is most certainly yes. >> did you support the recommendation by secretary of state -- then secretary of state clinton and head of cia general

petraeus that we provide weapons to the resistance in syria. >> did you support that? >> we did. >> so two secretaries of defense, one secretary of state, a general all disagreed. are they full of horse? >> there's a legitimate debate going on. the thing about hillary clinton, if she runs, most cannot move to the center until they get through the base. she's such a strong front runner, she can roll right over there and go to the center before republicans find what's happening to him. she will be a centrist candidate by the spring. >> can i throw this out here. does anyone see a similarity to the first time she ran where she kind of stepped on herself a few times and president obama saw the opening and ran right through it? anyone that can take that opening that she's providing, a far left progressive? elizabeth warren, joe biden, i

don't think he's far enough left? >> erbe seems to be clinging o to warren. the interesting thing that i find, it's obama's argument against arming the moderate syrian rebels or that they were doctors, farmers and pharmacists. did he forget something that assad is an ophthalmologist and that didn't stop him from killing thousands of people. >> i think it could come down to for independents a matter of character, so the repeated pattern that i see is let something go forward and criticize it later, but when she was in a position to have said something at the time, she goes quiet. maybe she was being a loyal soldier. the real hillary clinton please stand up. >> give her some credit here. a lot of people opposed that decision by obama, but as part of the cabinet, you either had to sit there behind it or get out. >> that's what i'm saying it's a matter of character. >> she was there though when she was making these decisions. she was secretary of state.

where was she? >> she was arguing. >> raise your hand and say something. >> she's going to say she did. it's his word against her word. his credibility is not doing very well. do i think someone can outflank her on the left, maybe. . but she's pretty big. she has the media in her camp. she has her husband to help her out. what will hurt her is if she takes too many positions that are anti-democratic party. remember on immigration and said they are taking jobs away from white americans? if she does those things to go where the polling is going, she may risk something in her own party. next the police shooting in mi riots. the naacp has condemned the violence. will other leaders follow suit? that's coming up next. [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking.

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for the second night in a row, protests in missouri where

a police officer fatally shot an unarmed black teen turned violent. the president of the naacp is calling for calm to honor the slain michael brown. >> we are here to remember a young man. he was nonviolent. he never got into a fight. if you want to honor his memory, honor his memory by seeking justice, nonviolently. >> brown's parents are also calling for an end to the violence. >> i don't want no violence. we don't want no violence. >> michael wouldn't have wanted no violence. >> do it the right way. we need justice for our son. >> ferguson police chief had originally planned on releasing the name of the officer involved in the shooting, but a mid-the threats of violence, he chose to withhold the name. before we get to the withholding of the name, the comments from the naacp president seemed to be

right on point. >> he got out there before sharpton did. >> sharpton has condemned the violence. >> al has a way of condemning things. >> did he condemn the violence he caused years ago in new york? >> good point. i think it's a very good message that the naacp gave and the kid's parents. there's a lot of unanswered questions here, but the last thing they need is to have pictures of rioting in the streets. it feeds into the stereotype of people in the ghetto. i think that's a sad thing. >> eric, the police department made an effort the first night not to go out actively and take on the protesters. they went out last night and used tear gas. they tried to minimize the violence. do you think they have handled this well by hold iing the cop' name and pulling back a little

initially as not to maybe escalate or get another casualty? >> i don't know. i think had they gone in with the heat of the first night and the animosity, the anger that was going on, they probably would have caused more. that said, the poor business owner, what was he involved? what did he do? his store was looted, windows broken, the violence was forced upon him. hats off to the family, the parents who in a couple days came out and said, everyone, calm our heads and prevail. completely agree. they are fantastic. regarding the al sharpton, how about for once he stays out of it? why do we need him to condemn it or for it? his presence alone is citing violence. >> i want to ask about the media coverage of this. august is known as a slow news cycle. do you fear this could end upturning into another trayvon martin case where people just

use it for political gain, the al sharptons of the world and pit people against each other instead of getting to the facts? >> it doesn't feel that way to me based on mr. brooks' comments, then the parents. the police force in response to this has tried to be as responsible as possible. so i think that i'm going to trust the adults here. they are doing the right thing. the media has not been short of any news to cover this month on other fronts, foreign policy wise, i don't think it will escalate to anything more. >> an investigation has been launched and maybe rightfully so, we don't know yet. it's not enough, people say. the president has weighed in on this as well. it's really sad though. it's a tragedy. it's a huge tragedy. >> the naacp is a great example of leadership of who can learn from this. any group dealing with conflicts or extremism in their midst like

muslim groups condemn and preach against the vile acts of radical islam. the problem when you come out with this statement is that protesters listen, but looters don't. you have to make the distinction that looters are opportunistic criminals. they look for crimes in periods in which law enforcement is vulnerable because they are dealing with other things. they aren't actually enraged. they are opportunistic. >> they also are a minority. i would bet you they could care less about this kid. they took an opportunity here and broke into stores. u i would venture to say the vast majority of the people in the black community did not go into the stores. but what are the pictures you see? >> that's news. and looters generally loot where they live. so they don't really care if they are destroying their own community. >> i think remember two years ago was the flash mobs taking

place in a few of the cities and it was hot in the summertime. that violence was sparked by an event. this actually seems like there's a legitimate grievance and the parents are asking for the way to get justice in the right way. >> the l.a. riots knew what happened and rioted because of what they perceived. no one really knows what happened. they are just, as you point out, opportunistically looting for their own benefit. >> you can use a lesson. >> next, if you had to pick the cool e coolest city in america, which one would it be? new york perhaps? you might be surprised to hear which city landed at the top of forbes list. it will surprise you, up next. n. we've created tax free zones throughout the state. and startup ny companies will be investing hundreds of millions of dollars in jobs and infrastructure. thanks to startup ny, businesses can operate tax free for 10 years.

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this is a liberal block so it's short. a list of the coolest cities in america and guess what, a lot of people don't like washington, d.c., but it was on top of the list. it's my hometown because they took into account age, restaurants, a lot of different

things. and washington, by far, i think is a superior city. go ahead, eric. >> it was cool, it wasn't superior. washington happens to be one of my favorite cities in the united states. i wouldn't call it the coolest city though. >> why? >> you have miami, l.a., new york, pretty hip and trendy city when is it comes to cool. listen, one day i hope to live in washington. >> getting closer. >> stay tuned for bowling for senate. god help us. greg, what do you think? >> the reason why u they said washington, d.c. is cool is because it is the home of captain cool, which is president obama. you have a lot of young people flocking there for government jobs, which we pay for. so we're paying for their cool. coolest cities are cities that aren't that showy u.

dusty, dirty towns like road houses. tucson, some place that you end up in a tumble weeds, cheap hotel with a bottle of scotch. >> i really think that might with oun of the one of the first i heard on tv. >> you want to say anything about cool washington is? >> you're really making history, bob. >> i do that every day. >> i lived in washington for five years. i like it and appreciate it more now that i have left. there were some cool aspects to it. there's the 930 club. >> i got thrown out of there. >> you can get good music if you want it. i do take issue with it being the coolest. >> they talk about the suburbs. they include the suburbs. new york, you got jersey. come on. we have bethesda. >>. you knock on jersey so much. >> i happen to think it's a

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find more real possibilities at aarp.org/possibilities. time for one more thing. >> of all things robin williams has done, this is my favorite. 2007 kuwait troops on the way to iraq, watch. >> i come here for you. [ applause ] it's good to be a n a room, i just got out of rehab, that's a good choice. i was violating my standards quicker than i could lower them. uh-oh. i'm not going to forget that. i've never had an audience go, forget you. >> what we didn't see was all

the troops turn and respected the flag. that's cool. >> bob? >> depression was the cause of robin williams' suicide. there are a lot of young people who try and do commit suicide every year. if you're a mother or father who has a child with depression, almost certainly they are going to turn to addiction. you need to interseed as early as possible. there's a great organization suicide prevention hot line. i think we have the number here. if you think your kids are depressed and think they are using alcohol or drugs, please call and do yourself a favor. it's at the bottom. make the call, it's worth it. >> that is sad. what i'm going to talk about is happy. it's happy for everybody but bob and greg. it's jasper's great weekend down in south carolina. this is jasper in a side car. i was sitting behind him.

wearing those glasses? >> i need to put goggles on. >> we almost got through the show without the name of that dog. >> do you have a giraffe and a forklift? >> how did you know? that was my weekend. so to speak. i just proved my point just now. my one more thing is that men say u and men say um. i didn't because i said uh. i thought it was interesting because people use um when they are trying to decide what to say, and uh when trying to decide how to say it. >> that's good information. >> as people get older, they don't use because they know what they think and don't care. >> real quick, my favorite invention has a bottom lor. it comes to your hotel room and

delivers items like toothbrushes and drinks and stuff. i love this because i don't like to tip those people. >> that's what happens with minimum wage. >> it's not sexy. >> "special report" is up next. as the military drops bombs on and fires missiles at isis insurgents in iraq, terrorists take cover and use human shields. this is "special report." good evening, more american military personnel could soon be on the way u to iraq. targeted airstrikes continue against isis militants in the north. hitting those targets could get more complicated. kp complicated is an understatement for the internal iraqi politics that have led to another