jenna: i will look into your your advice. jon: you have to come back for that. jenna: we will see you back here in an hour. "outnumbered" starts right now. ♪ >> this is "outnumbered." i am sandra smith and here is harris faulkner, andrea, jedediah and today's hashtag one lucky guy, the "o'reilly factor" jesse watters. he joins us and he is outnumbered. >> i missed you so much, i had to come back. you pointed out so nicely, thank you so much. >> i'm flattered you left the beach at martha's vineyard. we saw you, coming to sit next with us. >> i thought this was a nude show.

>> great to have you back because we have a lot to get to. the major shift in u.s. operation in iraq, the operation for tens of thousands of minorities trapped in the country's northern mountains could soon turn into a rescue mission. senior pentagon officials telling fox news u.s. has now sent for than 100 military advisors who could help plan an escape route for the people as they face death for torture at the hands of the jihadist militants. this comes as a administration under increasing fire for acting solely to protect iraq religious minorities including christians whose towns have been overrun by isis militant spirit here is tony perkins of the family research council. >> hearing from our own administration about this. we saw the president this last weekend authorize the airstrikes making reference as a potential case of genocide.

the president still can't bring himself to say christians in this region of the world dating back to most contagiou continges of the world are being killed. >> jennifer griffin is at the pentagon with the very latest on this, what do you have? >> 129 marine and military advisors now on the ground are armed and doing a pre-deployment site survey where sources tommy could lead to more american boots on the ground despite administration assurances combat troops will not return to iraq. >> combat boots on the ground operation, we will not have that kind of an operation. >> he military and air drops as well as strikes to ensure they are not threatening that population, but we have to figure out how to move the population to a safe space and give them the military and

assistance. >> they don't know how many are still on the mountains, it could be thousands or tens of thousands coming down from the mountains forced into isis territory with no clear route to a safe haven. planners do not know how the u.s. can do what it needs to do to stop isis without putting boots on the ground. in a surprise a statement after visiting baghdad, french foreign minister shamed european leaders and others to wake up to the isis threat. i know it is period in western countries but when people are dying you must come back from vacation. we have learned there are approximately four osprey aircraft and some rotary aircraft staying in the area. they brought advisors in and will remain on the ground. there are a total of 864 u.s. military personnel in iraq, all

of them armed of the 130 or so advisors in northern iraq, more than 80 are marines. jenna: we are monitoring the white house briefing going on right now we're getting word the deputy press secretary has been repeating the advisors you are talking about, 103 advisors sent over by the pentagon are not in a combat role. repeating that message. is that the idea if we send over 130 advisors not in a combat role, they would need protection of that of the u.s. marines? >> they are splitting hairs. these advisors are marines. not a single one of the u.s. military personnel in iraq are unarmed, they are all armed, there are already boots on the ground. are they discharging their weapons? not as of yet according to the

spokesperson. they are splitting hairs, but according to my sources, the 130 advisors if you want to call them that will have just arrived by osprey yesterday, they are a pre-deployment security team, meaning they are looking at how they're going to carry out this military and airlift if it has to be an airlift, if it needs a car door. in looking at targets of opportunity. he also has special forces military advisors who were embedded weeks ago with iraqi military armed, they'r their ouh the military, so the administration continues to fixate on this notion of we are not sending boots on the ground, but there are already boots on the ground. >> i am told the general got his advice on what really we are talking about with this mission, and he mentioned something i

want to ask you about. the only way to really do this in his estimation, he is an expert on it, to do this with c130s. i am wondering, they don't carry very many people. are you hearing we would kind of shift to that sort of a campaign where we can give our people cover, get big c130 in and cut down on the evacuation it would take? >> don't forget, c-130 need air strips. they are looking at how would you do this. yes, you would need more airlift. yesterday we were told if you start to airlift thousands off the mountain, you're talking about at least 10 days of roundtrips air support, air operations.

they have to be there to figure out how to latest if we. the decision still rests with the president. the president could still decide the iraqis and kurds are going to handle the movement and will find once they get there, many have left. many are coming down the other side. they are dissipating to some degree, but again until we know how many people are up there, that is why these advisors are their come you cannot decide militarily what is the best way to get them out. >> if you could give us a little bit behind the scenes on this, the pentagon and the white house, are they in full agreement on this? taking the fight to these terrorists, the white house is slow walking the operation, it is pinprick. is everybody on the same page?

>> they are not. many sources tell me there is a great deal of tension between the white house and the state department on one side and the pentagon on the other. the pentagon saying we have been authorized with 18 or so airstrikes carried out far to pitch some targets around the area to protect u.s. consulate. also those focusing, but that is not the complete threat. they are carrying out suicide bombings in baghdad, on the move and on the march toward baghdad. they have taken the rivers and n all the towns along the route. what all the officials from the pentagon side who i am talking to, have all been in the mix, what they need is a strategy from the president to deal with isis. this is simply authorization to help with the humanitarian situation. that is not going to deal with

the isis threat. you heard that from the pentagon yesterday. >> that is national security correspondent jennifer griffin with us from the pentagon. thank you. i want to continue the discussion on the couch. we have gotten another update from the white house press briefing going on right now saying no decision has been made on exactly how to rescue them. 130 advisors, based on everything you have just heard, what is your reaction? >> i am not surprised, to me this is based on the news cycle. president obama is trying to avoid a headline, and that headline is "obama fiddles while women and children died at the hands of isis. as jennifer pointed out, there are two separate issues here. the humanitarian issue, and eradicating isis.

i don't think the white house has a clear strategy on both. if the mission is to save christians, we are a little late on that. even when the u.s. army was in iraq under the bush administration and the obama administration, which i think is a pretty disgraceful legacy. it is not going to make a big difference when you listen to the ethnic cleansing that has already happened. we need to go in, we need to flatten them with a serious air war because it will be difficult for boot on the ground, but this is not going to accomplish either goal of the military and. >> this leads into a soundbite we have from john brennan. indicating this administration underestimated the power and the abilities of isis. here's what he said back in 2011. >> our strategy is shaped by al qaeda's goals, strategies and tactics. i'm not talking about a kind of

global domination through violent islamic taliban, it is absurd and we're not going to organize policies against a delusion that is never going to happen. we are not going to elevate these dogs and murderous aspirations into something larger than they are. >> too little too late? >> i don't think they underestimated it, i think i didn't want to be involved. the president made a political decision and did not want to upset his political base deciding he would not be proactive on this issue and now he'she is facing a big dilemma because their peers to be no choice. there are boots on the ground, they will be in a combat role. the situation is going to escalate and every day we wake up and we are more involved with no long-term strategy and no endgame. we are increasingly getting involved, this is a problem for the president right now.

>> is the president finally admitting without saying it that isis is a powerful group that has to be recognized and something has to be done finally? >> i think he is very narcissistic and will not play into a strategy. the strategy of the obama holy doctrine is don't do anything stupid, don't do stupid things. i think it is stupid to let terrorists take over iraq. now so bad refugees are fleeing iraq to syria because syria is safer than iraq. the president has squandered the surge and boxed himself and politically because he says if he ended the iraq war for the last six years, but the war is not over. it is still going on, so i really think he is trying to spin this new operation of humanitarian, these guys are not boots on the ground, they are advisors. the truth is it is a mess and a

tragedy. >> on the ground with weapons, they will not have a choice. >> considering what the enemy is doing while we're focused on the mountain, they can still hit six, seven different sites and towns throughout iraq, syria and now sites in europe and the united states. they are promising to do that, promising to come here. i have no doubt they mean it. >> the white house briefing continues, we will keep monitoring that for you. advisor ben rhodes speaking at that, we will continue to monitor and bring you developments from that. hillary clinton backtracking after slamming president obama's foreign policy. she now says she wasn't attacking him, but is the damage already done from those words, or will they plu hug it out at martha's vineyard?

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like any two friends had to deal with the public eye, she looks forward to hugging it out when they see each other tomorrow night. i would love to be a fly on the wall. when they reportedly hug it out. there's no way she made a mistake and no way president obama believes she d did. >> that sounded so corny. it is so clumsy by hillary clinton, she didn't need to say this, she didn't need another gasp. first that comment self-inflicted, now this. she didn't need to say this. nobody is asking your opinion about the obama doctrine. the walk back is so clumsy, everybody knows, she is a woman trying to overcompensate by

acting like a hawk. she is a female running to be the commander-in-chief, trying to be very hawkish. >> that is why she wanted to dennis and its armed service committee because women running for office risk looking weak as a woman so she does do that. >> i think she has to start the clock ticking between where she stands o her where she says she stands now. starting the clock early to say i am distancing myself from the

president. the biggest job right now making those comments because every time opening the mouth coming back behind her setting up hug it out mode. >> anytime president obama classic clinton. visited genius? >> what voters is she trying to attract? people don't support that. they will not like the rest of the policies or from the left because they don't want to be more hawkish. who did she win over? >> the only people. >> you think moderate republicans will look at the rest of her policy and say we will jump in for hillary clinton?

>> they have no prayer of distancing themselves. >> these words were not the way to go. >> the base has nowhere else to go, right now thinking nobody is on my coattails bid she figures i'm going to move to the middle. not after a warmonger. trying to circle that square. it is working. >> honestly some sort of a gaffe to make sure she seems disloyal, looking like a liar. part of the strategy to hug it out at this party. the end of the day having to separate herself from what is a

very unpopular president and unpopular foreign policy. >> i don't think hillary and obama have a very good relationship. she does not like the president that much. if you look at the foreign-policy resume, on her watch benghazi, the russian reset, christian holocaust going on, iraq, genocide, syria, her husband got bin laden, she has to go into election season defending her, president obama and putting forth a positive is ivision to the future. >> want you to respond to this. maureen dowd writes this saying her comments vote against president obama will backfire. when the finesse of a wrecking ball given interview jeffrey

goldberg, channeling john mccain taking a cheap shot at president obama when the approval rating for foreign-policy drops to 36% calling him a wimp just as he was preparing airstrikes against isis. saying this is not going to wo work. >> it depends on who runs on the right, depending if she had a challengechallenge on the left. i think it was ridiculous, she was part of this administration. all the things we look at, a foreign-policy nightmare but part of the administration she is criticizing. people will say hold on a second, weren't you part of this administration? people will have a lot of questions she's going to have a really hard time working her way around. >> hillary can say i was in the room and tried to warn him.

president obama's credibility is not that great, it depends on who they believe. >> in 2016 the world will be even more of a mess probably be at >> four more years, of course not. she needs obama's money. i would be careful. >> she may be able to set up something i talked about a little bit when we were talking about iraq. she starts to distance herself from him on foreign policy now. in 2016 when quite argue be there, he boots on the ground inside of iraq officially. she will have some time remember two years ago i said we were nothing alike and i have said that all along and now look. >> how interesting would it be if she runs against a rand paul style republican, more of a non-interventionist.

more standoffish. >> watch in the back-and-forth between the clinton's and obama's. why bring those to go in your administration? why would you do that? >> let's bring in the popcorn. >> it is going to be fun. >> president obama saying america's a lot stronger than when he first took office in 2009, so what about the economic fears americans have not to rder and foreign hotspots? has the president made the united states stronger? that when we come backp,ç ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. ugh. heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and are proven to taste better

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our military working overtime all over the place and the addition of this. president obama on vacation today in martha's vineyard, planning a big party a shindig, saying we're doing better than ever as a nation. telling supporters at a democrat fund-raiser this week, quoted, in all sorts of ways we're now just, not just stronger than we were, when i first came into office, it is fair to say that america has the best cards when you look at other countries around the world. there is no other country you would rather be than the united states. nobody can compete with us when we're making the right decisions, end quote. you know what? i took a look, counted up some of the days. this president had far fewer days than previous presidents on vacation. >> true. jesse why with re talking about where he is at on martha's vineyard tonight. >> people don't like optics of it, launch airstrikes playing golf with a maude rashad and ray

allen. first day at vineyard, you're flying off to do a fund-raiser. it doesn't look that great. the president doesn't care that much. he is a lame duck at this point. he hasn't accomplished that much since 2010. the other day he actually put out a release commemorating robin williams. he hasn't even really said about the general that was killed in afghanistan. his priorities seem to be a little off. >> sandra, is it fair to criticize the president for taking personal time? is it fair to say that he doesn't care as jesse just sid? i think the president can take personal time. it is on i can its of it. it is timing of it. i don't think any president should compare, he had more vacations than i did. i think it is all about the time. we're in a wartime right now. we do expect our president to be leading us through this. it is difficult to picture him at a party on martha's vineyard, harris. that being said, him touting the economy, touting things he has accomplished during his presidency, let's also keep in

mind he is preaching to the choir here. he is talking to democrats at a democratic fund-raiser to people who paid a lot of money to eat and attend this thing, harris. that being said, i want to point out americans are not feeling this wonderful situation that he says he that he created. time and time again we're seeing polls, that are touting the anxiety level of the american people right now at record highs. you have a real unemployment rate in this country that is nearly 20%. things aren't great and people are telling us that they don't feel good. they're not confident their children will have a better life than they have. >> in fact we're putting up some polling now, recent polling that shows some of that. the direction of the united states wrong track, 66%. we've seen that number tick up. this is rasmussen. also dana milbank wrote for "the washington post," take a look at this. even presidents need down time and president obama can handle his commander-in-chief duties wherever he is but the decision to proceed with this getaway 36

hours after announcing military action in iraq risks fueling impression that he is detached as the world burns. andrea? >> a little late for me to take people at "washington post" criticizing the president on a bad visual. a little too late for me to take that seriously. where was the media all the times he stayed in hawaii when a man tried to light his underpants on fire. remember that one. took days to respond to the bp oil spill. there was border crisis but he thought it would be better to hobnob with anna wintour this is pattern of this president. i don't begrudge him of a vacation but now the media is on board, we have these stories every time president obama goes on vacation but this time serious issue in the middle east. if he will not ditch vacation, harris, when there is domestic crises, he will not ditch them when there is something happening in middle east.

>> if he tells you things are doing better, that you are going to believe it, you might be out of work, struggling to look for second job. the labor force participation rate might be at lowest level in a long time. if he assures you it is better that you will believe him. >> what about this? i do want to get this in. during the martha's vineyard vacation the president is planning to come back for two days of meetings. his people argue he can multitask. he can run his duties wherever he is. what about perception of critics if he doesn't know what he is doing with foreign policy, maybe the rest of the world is better off if he is on vacation. >> i agree with 100%. >> he is still commander-in-chief. still bothers me is at a party. >> i don't want to see him riding bicycle with the mom jeans and helmet. >> i don't want to see that anymore. >> that is better than mucking up a situation in the

middle east. eat shaved ice at martha's vineyard. stay out of the situations unless you will go all-in, then just stay out. >> we have a hug it out fest between hillary clinton and the president tonight while the world is burning so to speak. we'll be watching all of it. we're awaiting a news conference on one of the two american aid workers being treated for ebola, ebola virus at the atlanta hospital they were flown to. nancy writebol's husband will give us an update on her condition at the top of the hour. we'll cover that. one group of atheists is winning a battle over the bible. while our sailors may not be able to skim through the skip ture onshore leave. might be a good time to pray. time to head for "outnumbered overtime"! i love it. foxnews.com. click on the overtime tab. us, with no commercials and no rules. you have to love that. send us what you want to talk

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♪ >> all right. well the u.s. navy forced to pull bibles from every room in its navy lodges on its bases around the world but chaplains and military members are fighting back against the order which came after an eight theist group sent a formal complaint to remove those books. the freedom religion foundation saying in its complaint quote, providing bibles to guests in navy-run hotels amounts to a government endorsement of that religious text, including bibles sends message to non-christian and non-religious guests that they should read the bible. such a practice alienates non-christian guests whose religious beliefs are inconsistent with the message promoted by bibles, including 20% of the u.s. population that is non-religious.

jesse, is that reason enough to, to not have a bible around for those christians, for those believers when they want one. >> absolutely not. if i would do i want the navy, atheists you're on your own. check yourself. we'll tick these guys over here, you guys don't deserve it. would atheists sue the navy if they gave out the koran? i just think it is bible specific. they hate christianity and they don't want any religion. i don't understand why the navy is so afraid of these atheists. navy stands up to terrorists, chinese, everybody oversees but they gave to atheists? >> they think christians will not fight back. you know what i don't want the trouble. christians don't cause a lot of trouble? that is ridiculous. they're not forcing anyone sandra, to pray. >> aren't they forces christians to not have accessibility and not read the bible, andrea. >> excellent observation, sandra. the establishment clause was designed to prevent people from

trying to get people to read certain religious texts. the atheists are acting almost form of a religion, a godless religion, like religious zealots trying to eradicate any religious text that references god or christiane think at this they could be in violation of the establishment clause i see as a sword. that is exactly what the first amendment was not signed do. look these bibles were donated. let them have the bibles. military is under attack bit pc police under this administration. that is why i think they're caving. >> face it, this is not being pushed in anybody's face. bible in hotel room or whenever you find a bible, in a drawer, talked away. not out exposed in your face. >> i find it conflicting messages though that are being put out because when something happens to you in the military they send in a chaplain to pray for you. >> thank god. >> what you're telling our men and women who are serving and putting their lives on the line,

if something happens to you can have someone pray over you but you can't read material to tell you what all about they're saying over you. >> the question will that become a problem then? is there slippery slope argument if atheists get away with this, i don't understand the logic. you don't want to read a bible? don't read it. you don't want to pray? don't pray. let everybody else do what they want to do. how is a bible in the drawer affecting you by not reading. >> if someone prays over you know what they're saying and know the reading of it and dire nature how is that hurting? >> using the first amendment against the exact opposite what was intended. they are trying to create their own religion, that is one religion. >> no religion, they don't believe in anything. if you open up the drawer and there is nothing, the navy is endorsing atheism. >> that is exactly right. one thing for sure the chaplains and military members are fighting back on that one.

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>> more "outnumbered" in just a moment. let's go to jenna lee with more what is coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> hey, harris. we're awaiting a news conference from the husband of one of the americans treated for ebola in emory university medical center. so far no long-term deal in effect. the sides appear to be far apart. rick leventhal with a live report from the ground. we're talking normally about heat waves. severe storm warnings are in effect for much of the east. we have picktures from long island, new york. historic flooding. severe flooding shutting down

roads, stranding drivers, closing beefs from the midwest to the east. we'll have more next hour. >> see you then, jenna, thank you. >> i may be "outnumbered" but there is my turn for this story. pet names like dear, honey, babe, those names could be harmful depending on setting and context. using pet names could come across as condescending or informal as some sort of a weird power play. let's propose a truce here, ladies, okay? you guys can call me pet names, hey there, tiger, hey there, stallion. i could call you guys pet names s that okay? are you okay with that. >> stallion? thought of that one on your own for yourself. sandra, i use darling all the time. hey darling. i use it for women and for men. i don't think it is offensive. wouldn't offend me if you said honey or offend you sandra that i do that. >> not at all. i guess i understand, that in certain contexts that it could

be rather informal for someone to walk into a board meeting hey, sweetie. >> yeah. >> i get it. but i think we need to try to be a society not offended all the time. >> that's true. reality, old guys get away with this. handsome guys get away with it. if you're not good-looking it is kind of creepy. sometimes to be honest, we forget your name. hey, babe or hon. >> i think that is true, jesse. for me personally, i don't mind it from women but when a guy gives me pet names and i don't have that sort of, like, rapport it really does bother me. i think it is condescending. if someone says hey, sweetie, i expect them to say, go get me coffee. i'm happy to do that if i'm offering, but if i don't have the rapport with somebody -- >> every man in the build something thinking, what do i call harris? >> harris is good. >> don't worth with beckel every day. >> been called crazy names like bob beckel.

>> he calls me sweet i. >> every day i see him, sitting outside smoking, hey bob. he will go, hey, baby. every single day. that is our little thing. certain people can get away with it. bob and i are very close. women can get away with it. >> we like it. >> handsome men can get away with it, absolutely right. other than that it feels a little strange. i'm not going to run to hr if someone says, hey, babe. >> these are stories i read about. it scares me to death. i will not make eye contact. not put a smiley face on emails. not compliment your dress. we overreact. >> you do the bill o'reilly and call me by my last name. >> tantaros. >> that's right. >> that is about using good judgment. know your audience. >> there is difference between hey, darling and hey, darling. watch the tone. >> all right, sugar. >> thank you. >> forget punishing diets and

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it we have to live life. but there is a very, very fine line between that and promoting the obsessitty problem. >> i don't think they are promoting obbicity. and i am on that and i am almost 510 or bigger or smaller than i want to be and why stay in the house when you can get out and be proud of what you have. that will motivate you to change what you do have. we'll not all look the same and be a size two. i don't wear a fatkini. >> but i have stuff going on. >> i want to know. and men make really nasty comments about women when they are overweight. and what do the guys think about this? >> i am personally pro fatkini. >> all right. and any time a bikini is

involved it has my support. i think women should let it all hang out. i think confidence is sexy and the more, more free to love. and i don't have a problem with it and i don't tell a woman what to wear. that's how you get in big trouble. >> more questions for it. >> i am not going to go there. >> anyway. what do you think? >> skinny doesn't automatically mean healthy. they may be super stressed out. >> so they look great in the bikini and someone who's heavier and 20 or 30 pounds over weight and doesn't smoke and in better health. we don't know upon what the health is really like sitting on the couch. and there is someone for everyone. there are people out there going to say wow, it is beautiful. >> that is awesome. >> oh, thank you.

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