this is what we're watching for out of the white house. we've just learned from one of the president's advisers that the president will be coming to the podium, to the microphones there on vacation from martha's vineyard where he is in massachusetts over the next week or so. he's going to be making some sort of a statement. now, we have been led to believe that there are a couple of topics he'll probably touch on. the developments, as you know, in iraq where we have already been striking militants from the air, those isis terrorists from the air and trying to help in a humanitarian way the christians and the religious minorities who are trapped on a mountaintop there and give them some relief, try to help them. that's been part of the mission. we've been led to believe today the white house is backing off that mission, the president may give us some detail on that. and also the situation that's breaking in ferguson, missouri, which is just outside of downtown st. louis. it has been erupting to the point where they had a huge show of police force on the streets

of ferguson last night for a third night in a row. so the president may talk about this, this follows the shooting and the killing of a young man in that community by the police force. that's under investigation. so those are two topics that we expect to hear from the president about. whether or not there's more on the table, we don't know yet. his advisers have not told us. when that happens during this hour, we will bring it to you live. ♪ ♪ >> this is "outnumbered," and i'm kimberly guilfoyle. harris faulkner, sandra smith, kirsten ours and today's hashtag one lucky guy, the weekly standard's steve hayes. steve, we're going to remind you that you are outnumbered -- >> i feel outnumbered already. >> every time you were mean to me on "special report." [laughter] >> so never, really? >> this is going to be an interesting day. as harris just mentioned, we expect the president to address the crisis in iraq.

u.s. troops are on the ground there, addressing a situation that has thousands of non-muslims, including christians, facing a stark choice; run or face slaughter at the hands of islamic extremists. the pentagon saying they have broken the siege in the mountains of northern iraq allowing most of those trapped to leave so a potentially risky rescue operation now on hold. the u.n. declaring its highest level of humanitarian crisis in iraq. ambassador paul bremer under president george w. bush following the u.s.-led invasion in 2003, he worries that the administration may be underestimating the very real threats these radical jihadists pose for the region and for america. >> i don't think we can tolerate very much more time of these guys continuing to move south, continuing to bury people alive, crucify children and behead people. it is a serious threat, particularly since they've said we're going to come after you. in other words, they're planning

to attack the homeland at some point. >> meantime, most americans don't think highly of the way the president is handling iraq. new fox be poll showing that fewer than four in ten approve of what he is doing there. 52% disapprove. i'm going to go straight to you, steve. again, welcome, i'm glad to have you on this busy news day especially given this crisis, humanitarian and, i think, terror that we're facing. do you think the white house has a good grasp of this situation, and what do you think their next step should be? >> no, i don't think so. they haven't had a good grasp of the situation with a wide variety of islamic radicals, i would argue, since the beginning of the administration. but in particular on isis and on the growing threat from jihadists who have come from syria into iraq. the administration's position right now is to contain isis we have to stop then. think about that. these are the most brute algae haddists than we've seen, even more brutal than iraq, and our

strategy right now is to contain them. we're going to fight like-minded jihadists somewhere at some time, and i would argue we should fight them now. >> what is the theory behind this containment, harris? >> you may find it strange, i'm going to yield my time to kirsten, because i have a question for you about this white house. we've seen half-steps, half-measures and minimal action in certain areas of foreign policy. this is one of them. so we were late to the game in iraq to try to help people, particularly christians and those religious minorities in harm's way. we get in, now we're going to have to pass measure. we knew that those people needed some help, right? and now we start to get engaged. we send almost a thousand of our u.s. military in there. we don't want to call it boots on the ground, but a thousand of seize so-called ad vise -- these so-called advisers. what are they going to do, sit and wait?

what's their mission going to be? >> first of all, they haven't helped any christians, so that's been a misnomer here. there have been hundreds of thousands of christians who have been basically on the run at least since mid july, and the administration hasn't dropped anything to them. they have, they have said now they've gotten involved because of the ya sidtys which i think is good, but nothing has been dropped to all these christians who are in kurdistan who are starving, who have no water, who are homeless. so i think the administration habit done anything there -- hasn't done anything there. i also think they could have been involved sooner in terms of arming the kurds. also i agree they're playing games about the boots on the ground, but if you don't want to have boots on the ground, then arm the kurds. >> a half measure is what they're doing because they're going to arm them with some things -- >> but it's a little late. [inaudible conversations] >> they really need, they're not going to give, and they need the training, right?

so we're kind of a half step. >> what we're doing is the bare minimum so that president obama can turn to the country, can turn to the international community and say we're doing something. >> right. >> we don't want to be caught doing nothing, but in effect, we're doing nothing. the only thing we've been doing, i've been talking to people in the intelligence community, we're getting ready to mobilize a big push of intelligence assets into the area, but we only have so many intelligence assets to use, and it's not going to take the place of a real fighting -- >> i just wonder if there's a difference between, you know, this administration having a lack of understanding of what's happening on the ground or this is purposely, this is their strategy based on what they know is happening on the ground, the week publication actually put out an article titled "isis has changed the world: someone tell the president." >> yeah. >> mike baker even this morning was saying he doesn't think that

the administration and the president know how bad the situation is. they've been slow to react, and we are dealing with a real threat to our national security. so i'm wondering if there's a difference of not understanding or understanding and not doing more. >> yeah. i think they don't understand because they've chosen not to understand the nature of the problem. and we can point to two different things that happened this week as evidence of that. one, my colleague, tom joslin at the weekly standard posted part of a speech that john brennan gave back in 2011 in which he said, look, this threat, they talk about a global caliphate, that's crazy, that's delusional, and we're not going to tailor our policies to countering something that's crazy. well, maybe we should have been looking at the words these terrorists were saying as we formulated our response. and second was an interview published late last week with general mike flynn who was the former head of the in which he said, in effect, i've been warning these guys -- >> right. >> the president -- >> in brutal words.

he was not diplomatic at all. >> maybe deservedly so. >> absolutely. >> because what happens here and the genocide, that was something, in my opinion, that could have been prevented by the administration acting based on realtime intelligence that they were receiving. fact of the matter is we did have special op forces and people on the ground that were firsthand witness to what was going on. that's the reality of the situation. now you have the political optics coming into play, people like nancy pelosi and other democrats disfavoring the administration jumping into rescue operation with the ya si dis. that's very disappointing. because they're worried about midterm elections, they're worried about 2016 instead of worrying about saving lives and doing the right thing. >> right. and, look, so much of this goes back to president obama's campaign promises this if 2008. he didn't want to be involved in iraq. he never wanted to be involved this iraq. he doesn't want to be involved now. he would like to put it away, he'd like to separate it. when he was running in 2012, one of the things we heard again and

again and again is we're not going to be engaged in nation building around the world, we're going to turn inward and do nation building at home, was the phrase he used. the world was never going to cooperate with that. >> right. >> look, if americans wanted that -- that's not an option. we can't just tune out -- >> 9/11 -- [inaudible conversations] >> we don't need to do nation building, though, that's the point. arming the kurds is not nation building. >> fair enough. >> so, you know, i think even with his own, in his own paradigm he still had things that he could do, right? he doesn't have -- there isn't -- >> nation building as nation building. the point was -- >> right. not helping us. >> he wanted to be here focused on domestic policy, and it was naive for him to say it. >> do you know what has probably not been missed by people around the world who are pretty nervous about isis -- jordan, kuwait, they're watching -- democrats tried but couldn't get revoked the president's power to go in with force in iraq. that's never been repealed, so it's still there. and you hear people say, well,

congress has to say whether or not he has to move with military. it would be nice, but technically, legally, i don't think they do. i'm wondering, is the president maybe waiting, kirsten? maybe he's got something -- maybe he's going to tell us today when he speaks later this hour that i'm planning to go in there? it's not only the humanitarian mission, as i understand it. you've to the to try -- got to try to stop isis. >> he knows probably more than i do, but he has not identified isis as a real threat to the united states. all of this has been about humanitarian and saving our people. nothing about a real strategy about dealing with isis because they threaten the united states, right? >> the intelligence people have -- >> from him though. yeah. and he also is claiming he's dealt with this humanitarian crisis, but it's going full bore. >> now as we sit here today, there is no border between iraq and syria, that's been opened up by isis, they've done a good job

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♪ ♪ >> fox news alert, we are waiting for the president to step to the podium there on martha's vineyard where he's been vacationing. he is expected to provide an update on iraq as well as the situation in missouri with the unrest and the protests there. we are waiting for those comments, we will bring them to you live. meanwhile, even with the president on vacation, a majority of you still think he's got things covered. fox news polling showing 52% of people say he's on top of things and not checked out just yet. but while a slim majority do think he is engaged, more than half of you disapprove of how he's handling every major issue that the president is facing from the economy to health care to immigration and foreign policy. doesn't look so good for the president here, kirsten. to -- >> so he's on top of things and people don't want him on top of things? yeah, i think this has been the story for a while about the

president. he has not been very popular, and it's been sort of a downhill since he -- >> well -- yeah. what was interesting to me, of all the things he didn't rate well on, he actually -- how do i say this? he rated the least bad on the economy with the american people. [laughter] which i have heard as a major talking point for the upcoming election. steve, what do you make of all this? it just seems across the board people are not approving of the job he's doing. >> no, that's exactly right. if you look at those numbers, the economy, he's upside down eight points. >> bad. >> on the economy. and that's the best. so he's in a bad spot right now. obviously, there are huge implications for the 2014 midterm elections. >> what does it say about the elections? >> well, there's a strong correlation, and sean trendy from real clear politics has done terrific work on this, strong correlation between presidential approval and the performance of the president's party in midterm elections, and the fact that the president not

only has a negative approval rating across the country, but in particular in those states where the most contested battles are being fought right now, i think it's a huge rob. >> obama's invitation got lost in the mail. no need to show up for the fundraiser, in fact, keep the distance. because with numbers like this, you don't want the taint, you don't want the association. you want to stand on your own ground in terms of your constituents. there's times when presidents can be incredibly powerful. bill clinton, people wanted him to show up. he was like the rainmaker, i know, i've utilized him this mayoral elections in san francisco. but now that's not the case. and, unfortunately, it's the president's own fault. show leadership. stand up to your own, you know, senators and congressmen that are putting pressure on you, people like nancy pelosi, and why don't you just do the right thing? that's what bothers me so much about this. rescue the yazidis, why wouldn't

you stand up and do something like that? that's a legacy you can be proud of. >> we're going to look at the overall job performance, job approval rating of the president by the american people in this poll. those that approve, 42%. that's remained steady since july, and it is up four points from the record low back in march. those that disapprove, 49%. that number's actually come down from 52% in july. >> so you want me to find something positive about that? i would say that the messaging that the advisers and staff out of the white house have been pushing for is that the president can multitask is somewhat working. people do believe he's actually doing some work whether he's on vacation or not. but as kirsten pointed out, the polls we previously showed showed they don't necessarily like the job he's doing -- >> right. >> so you are a multitasker like never before. would you stop it? [laughter] i mean, it's like a mixed message. [inaudible conversations] >> well, these, look, these are

fox polls, so so they're the gold standard, but there's other olding from other organizations that suggest the president is either at or near his all-time low in terms of presidential approval and at his high in terms of disapproval. >> this is within the statistical margin of error, has a plus/minus three points so, guess what? >> it could be wrong. >> but what is getting worse is the confidence the american people have in their president. this was the other number we were looking at, those that are confident he can make the right decisions for this country, 52%. that number's come down a couple points. and then those that are not confident has gone up, it's at 47%. >> yeah. i think this is a real problem for the president not only because of the immediate political implications, the implications for 2014, but also because there's nothing that you can see as you look out over the landscape that's likely to really change those numbers. i mean, what is it that the -- >> he's probably not going to talk about immigration, right? >> not immigration. >> the economy dicey, the --

>> but, steve, don't you think that there's, there is going to be -- and he already has started to do it, i mean, he did it recently touting the, that he has dope wonders for -- done wonders for this economy. the energy boom he's taking credit for, the record-breaking stock market we've had the past several months he's taking credit for, the unemployment rate has come down substantially since he's been in office. that's not necessarily the real unemployment rate, i but he's already starting to use these numbers in favor of the democratic party. >> sure. i mean, look, if i was advising the president, you grab what you have. [laughter] what other argument are you going to make? is the world is doing well right now. >> before you said, though, that the president's disapproval numbers correlate almost specifically, spot on with how the democratic party might do in midterms. i'm wondering if you might want to, as a republican, put that in an ad. that's a really interesting thing because the president is not going to make up ground when you have such a huge disapproval

rating between now and october. >> yeah. you've seen republican candidates repeatedly try to tie their opponents to the president in every possible, every conceivable way. the my -- if my memory is correct, i think the analysis provided was in 2010 and 2012 there were 31 competitive senate races, and democrats ran within five points of the president's approval rating in 23 of those 31. and if you look -- >> telling. >> it is. >> and if you look at the states republicans are targeting -- >> great indicator. >> his average approval rating is in the 30 bes. >> the democrats will be depressed -- >> depressed sad or just not coming out? >> both. they're not excited about things because they don't like how things are going with the president. it affects turnout, likely, for the democrats who are running. >> interesting. >> all right. well, we are waiting on the president's comments from martha's vineyard. he's on vacation there, expected to step up onto that podium in

just a few minutes, an update on iraq and also the police shooting in missouri as protests and up rest continue there, something we're going to discuss after we come back from the break. we are monitoring the podium there, we will bring the president's statement to you live as it happens. stay with us.

♪ ♪ >> welcome back, everyone. we are waiting on president obama is to step up to the podium in martha's vineyard, expected to provide an update on the situation in iraq as well as the growing violence in the state of missouri after the shooting death of an unarmed black teen. we will continue to watch that, wring those statements -- bring those statements to you live when it happens. meanwhile, that violence is spilling into the streets outside of st. louis. explosion after explosion of tear gas canisters being

unleashed on protesters in ferguson, missouri. police and in military-grade riot gear move in to try and disperse the rioters. at least ten people were arrested including a washington post reporter. but the people there say the event was meant to be peaceful. >> we just said "hands up, don't shoot." >> that's all you were saying? >> that's all we were saying. >> were you up in the front line? >> yes. and they started shooting. >> demanding answers after an unarmed black teen was shot and killed by a police officer on saturday. the situation is reportedly getting worse there, we're awaiting comments from the president of the united states on this situation. steve, what's your take on this right now? >> part of the reason that the situation has gotten as bad as it is, is we have heard so little from the police. there's always another side of the story, and the police need to tell that side, and they haven't thus far. the other thing, i think, that

we've seen is in these video feeds, these live video feeds, you see the police taking very aggressive action. it's hard to imagine context in which, for instance, the arrest of those reporters was justified. just given what we have seen, what we've known, what we've heard from eyewitnesses. the same, i would say, is true of the video of tear gassing an al-jazeera camera crew and then dismantling their set-up. i mean, it's hard to imagine why if the goal here is isn't to prevent reporters from doing their jobs, it's hard to imagine why they're doing. >> and residents are on edge. it's a great point to, lack of clarity and answers for the residents there leaves a lot of room for speculation when you're not hearing anything from the police. >> right. and i also think what steve's talking about adds to the speculation because when you see police officers acting in such a clearly unacceptable way, taking, you know, erecting -- actually -- arresting actually two reporters for being in a mcdonald's, it makes you

wonder about the police department. i think it just raises more questions of what are their practices here, and why do they have to shoot tear gas at these people? they're peaceful protesters. >> uh-huh. yeah, and, harris, i was just actually telling you guys during the break, i was on the phone for a radio interview with a st. louis radio station this morning, and their point to me sort of was that the entire city's not in flames. they're pointing out that this is a small suburb in north county, st. louis, that a lot of the people or that are coming up to participate in this, in the protests, they're not there particularly for the reason, they're adding to the population of the protests, but they're not helping. they're showing up just to stir up trouble. >> i wouldn't doubt that some of that is true. i would say if it were your town, though, would it matter whether or not a suburb? if it's happening, it's happening. i reached out to governor jay nixon's office this morning and senator claire mccaskill's office because my big question

was why not enact a cuff few? -- curfew? your protection, your freedoms are protected, you can protest during the daytime, peacefully during the daytime, but we're going to establish order at this point. now we're learning that senator mccaskill, claire mccaskill, is in ferguson right now talking directly with constituents. we're learning that through our newsroom, that that's just happening. the other point is as you mentioned the kind of void, the vacuum of leadership. young mayor. i'm sure he's a very bright person, he's calling for calm. we're three nights into violence now, i think you need a little bit stronger call, mayor james noel, than what you've given. he says they have handed over the investigation to the fbi and at the state and county level so there's no more of this impartiality question about whether they're investigating. is that an indication that maybe this police department felt it couldn't handle this? >> well, what happens usually is you have -- because i used to be

on the officer-involved shooting team, so anytime there was a shooting that occurred at the hands of a police officer and an individual died, you have to do -- put it together, interview all the witnesses, go to determine whether or not it was a good shooting, meaning valid and it wasn't something you need manslaughter or homicide charges. so it's always better if you have impartiality, sometimes due to budget constraints. certain cities can't handle their own investigation, but once you have more confidence there a public perception level, if you have someone, an outside agency coming in, doing the questions, asking -- like we did the district attorney's office, i would go and question the police officers involved -- and then you determine. i think that's why they've been quiet so far, but it isn't helping this terms of instilling public confidence that they're on top of it and some of this unrest is going to come to an end. in terms of the camera shots, we're not getting the full 360 image, so there's snippets that can come in -- >> that's true. >> right. >> i don't want to underestimate and second guess the police department, the forces, the tactical units that are on the ground. they know their job best.

having been on both sides of it, you never know. press can be part of the problem if they think it's inciting it, but they have to be careful to respect the ability of public to be able to know and see what's going on there. [inaudible conversations] >> i agree with everything you said. it's hard to see how sitting in mcdonald's trying to file a story -- >> i agree. >> -- was in any way causing a problem. you know -- >> and there may be some overreaction by human beings. >> yeah. >> cops, even if they're in riot gear, there's human beings that are pumped up there the emotion and energy. >> is it normal for it to take so long for there to be -- >> i think the response has been a little bit slow. i think they're very worried and probably a little bit in over their head, including the mayor. >> is it normal for us not to know anything about the offender officer in -- offending officer in the original case, and to fending teenager if, in fact, that was the case? we don't know really that much about what happened in the original shooting, but we also don't have an identification of

the police officer. >> isn't that normal for police not to unveil until they actually know the facts? >> but their not investigating it. >> they're not? >> no. the mayor said they passed this on to the county -- >> definitely have their own reports, their own witness statements, and then they probably handed over everything -- >> that's what the mayor said. >> the investigation over to them to take it from that point so there will be no question as to the results of the findings, especially because there's been so much violence and so much emotion that's come out of this situation. they're better off. this was their determination. we didn't come up with this, we turned everything over. but we do know, but there's a matter of public safety as well, especially for that office. >> absolutely. >> they'd be remiss -- >> well, you now have these outside hacker groups like anonymous putting names out that may or may not be the officer involved. >> oh, and that's dangerous. >> it suggests that the police need to move. they need to give us some kind of an explanation that we haven't gotten beyond a brief statement on saturday. >> thank you for answering that,

because i was curious. >> yeah. and we're waiting on the statement, again, on this, on this situation in missouri. that should be coming up in just moments. >> all right, we're going to move on to a situation that has so many people in our country talking. we wonder whether or not they'll completely talk about it in washington, the illegal immigration crisis expanding from our southern border to the classroom, we are learning. public schools will now be facing a new challenge; integrating and paying for the massive influx of migrant children. they are streaming across the border this year. now, the numbers are down a little bit this summer, we've seen some different -- they were, like, 2,000 a day, illegals coming across, many of them children. now it's about a thousand. that's still a huge number. a fact sheet from the department of education is highlighting the children's right to attend american public schools as they await their trials on possible deportation. so they'll sit, they'll be educated, they'll get what our children get here in america. steve, your thoughts? >> i think the biggest problem that this presents, in my view,

is that there's a reason, i think, that we've seen the numbers go down, we've seen the fewer -- >> what is it? >> -- immigrants come across. in part, it's the stories of shipping planeloads back to countries of origin. and that was something you heard very early, senator jeff flake said early. once unfortunately a few of these planes full of immigrants sent back, illegal immigrants sent back, it'll send a message that they're not going to be welcomed here, and they're not going to be able to stay here. a lot of the migration's been based on the flawed assumption they would all get to stay, these rumors that have been circumstance rating in central america for quite some time -- circulating in central ferc more quite some time. that's why we see fewer people willing to take on the risks in coming to the united states. the concern is if you put these children in american schools, does it send the opposite message? does it undo the progress you've already made? >> i can't wait to hear from kirsten on the immigration issue, because nothing gets her

heated up more on this couch. [laughter] obviously, it's the question should participants be concerned -- parents be concerned about migrant children entering into their children's schools, the answer is yes. they're going to take up additional resources, and it will take more effort on the part of the school systems and the teachers themselves to educate these chirp. at the end of the day, qir ten, i wonder if we're going to hear more from democrats pushing on the president on immigration as we head into the midterm elections. >> i don't know. i think, i mean, they have not been aggressive enough on immigration for my, from where i'm sitting, so i don't have a lot of high hopes they're going to be aggressive on it. look, the supreme court has ruled these children have a right to be educated, so it's decided. there's no, there's really no -- >> let me ask from a mom's perspective, right? because you mentioned the resources and the money and all of that. these kids are coming, and they're not immunized. >> no. >> the way that our kids are. >> no. when they come across the

border, they go into detention centers with are they are immunized, and i've spoken to the -- >> you've been to one of these detention centers. >> no, i've been to where they go after, but i've talked to people who run them like catholic charities, and they say they're all immunized, and the number one disease is dehydration, quite frankly. so they're all immunized, and we don't know how many of their parents are legal and illegal. they're all joining families, the question is whether they're legal or illegal. 90% of them are actually reunited with family member. so, but we don't know whether they're legal or illegal, some percentage are and -- >> kimberly, you're shaking your head. >> that just really bothers me. >> why? >> because i think we are sending the wrong message. i think we're putting children in harm's way to the point where they're coming down with infectious diseases -- no, kirsten. they are. they're coming over here. family members are -- >> the infectious diseases thing. where is that coming from? [inaudible conversations]

>> if i may be allowed to finish just for a moment. >> please do. >> thank you. [laughter] they're being put in a perilous situation, which i strongly disfavor as a child advocate myself, someone who has worked with children of illegal aliens to when they're here, yes, get them in a situation where they can be housed, clothed, fed, but i still think it's sending the wrong message that whoever wants to come over can. that's not fair to all the families and people who have done this the right way, then you're encouraging, and i'm telling sandra who's across the worder go ahead and send your daughter across because america's going to take care of it. i just think the whole infrastructure of it is flawed. i think it's going to be difficult to support, and i think we should be doing even a better job already before we're taking more on of taking care of the children that we have here. having worked as a teacher and been this schools, having children -- they don't have breakfast or anything, and fighting for kids to get a

decent meal before they start the day, kids that aren't seeing a pediatrician, kids that have special needs, that need supplemental education services, it's an incredibly complex, big problem, and this isn't necessarily making a better quality of life for the children and families that are here. >> i don't think it's an either/or situation, and i have talked to people who are taking care of these kids, and they say the infectious disease thing is not true, it is not what they have seen. we have educated children in new york city for, gosh, as long as i worked in new york city under rudy giuliani, you know, he defended it. this is not something that has destroyed new york city. there are problems in the schools, but it's not caused by -- >> for this conversation, i think one of the points i also hear kimberly making isn't whether or not you should provide all this, but how long? and does this maybe present a slippery slope? because the longer you educate -- >> what's -- [inaudible] they've been here the last 15 years. >> why can't we follow the law? >> we ever going to get to the point where they ever get to

that deportation hearing? >> this is following the law. following the law is educating them. >> they're breaking the law by crossing the border. >> no, they're not, it's asylum. >> oh, my gosh, i'm so over this blanket thing of asylum. they congresswoman from the a country -- come from a country with a bad economy -- [inaudible conversations] >> they cite violence, but it's not the children's fault -- >> have due process. >> i agree. >> follow the law. great respect for the law, and i think there's laws in place that people can have a clear understanding of how they can go about doing this. i come from a family of immigrants. i'm all for it. but we also did it the right way, the legal way -- >> kimberly, it is the legal way. it is the legal way. it's a law that was passed by republicans and democrats that when they come to the country, that they can tell a boarder agency want to see a judge, and i'm seeking asylum. that's legal. i mean, that's under the law of the united states.

[inaudible conversations] >> saying that they're coming -- >> you don't want to understand that. but most of them are. >> in terms of the united states -- everybody wants to send -- >> i agree. [inaudible conversations] >> that's what he said originally, and the question is does it create perverse incentives, does it send a message to people saying -- [inaudible] >> no, because they're going to all the countries. there's a 700 increase in the countries in the area -- >> i can promise you we're going to come back to this topic. [laughter] >> kimberly, what i'm seeing now is more discussion than, stephen, i've seen come out of washington in an open forum like this, and i think this is how it needs to be done because we all have thoughts about it. thank you. okay, we'll be right back. stay close.

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martha's vineyard where he's expected to make remarks regarding the situation this iraq and the ongoing crisis in missouri. let's bring in ed henry, our chief white house correspondent to, who joins us now with the very latest. what can we expect from the president today? >> good to see you, kimberly. eric schultz is saying the the president's going to update, as you say, on the situation in iraq, but also for the first time comment on camera about that tense situation all of you have been talking about in ferguson, missouri, the unarmed black teen who was shot and killed saturday afternoon. there's been five nights of protests, the back and forth as you say last night a couple of reporters being jailed or arrested for a while. there's been a lot of confusion about what's really happening on the ground, the president getting a chance to weigh in. guesting, because -- interesting , because when we started putting out there on social media this was going to happen, i got a lot of tweets saying i thought the president and his staff usually say they don't comment onion going

criminal invests, the irs targeting, you'll remember the trayvon martin case, the president spoke out prominently, now here will speak out on this tense situation with the justice department among other entities is investigating right now. and so, obviously, he has to be very careful. i see a notebook, a binder, looks like the two minute warning, be very careful about what he says over what is a tense situation. >> all right. harris, do you have a question for him? >> you know, ed, i hear you and others making comparisons to the trayvon martin situation. the dangerous ground though is that you bring race into this conversation, and this originally was about a crime. and that's what i was saying on the couch before. do we do ourselves any favors by not knowing really the day -- details of the crime? was there a crime? >> right. he was unarmed, and so why was he shot? >> maybe he provoked. we don't know. >> we don't know. and so that's what we need to get, witness testimony. they've got to do the police work but, obviously, the police very much under siege right now

because there are a lot of people that are angry about what happened. so, look, beyond that, obviously, i mentioned the president will be talking about iraq as well. this is the second time he's made a statement on camera about iraq in the last few days on vacation. very if fancy, martha's vineyard, it gives you the idea who has repeatedly has said they're not anxious about the president being on vacation, they're putting a lot of photo ops putting the president on top of that podium, the american flag to show, look, he's on top of this. so i think they are very concerned about the on the toics of this vacation. >> the optics is certainly something we've been discussing on this show, ed. we are also waiting comments that he will make on the situation in iraq. this after it seems he and his administration are pulling back from the humanitarian efforts there. what, what do you think, what do you think specifically he's going to shed light on as he does step away from his vacation to make these comments? >> sure. i think he'll phrase it that they're not pulling back on the

humanitarian efforts, but they're just not going to expand them. they feel like the early efforts have done a good job of saving the lives of thousands of these minorities who were being targeted by isis. but there have been a con fig race to expand the humanitarian program much more dramatically. that could have put u.s. troops in harm's way, in more direct combat potentially with isis, islamic militant fighters. and because there were some u.s. special forces on the ground, they got an idea it was working. >> ed, here's the president of the united states. >> today i'd like to update the american people on two issues that i've been monitoring closely these last several days. first of all, we continue to make progress in carrying out our targeted military operations in iraq. last week i authorized two limited missions; protecting our people and facilities inside of iraq and and a hue handtarian operation to -- humanitarian operation to help save thousands of iraqi civilians stranded on a

mountain. a week ago we assessed that many thousands of yazidi men, women and children had taken refuge in a desperate attempt to avoid slaughter. we also knew that isiing l terrorists were killing and enslaving the civilians in their custody and laying siege to the mountain. without food or water, they faced a terrible choice: starve on the mountain or be slaughtered on the ground. that's when america came to help. other the last -- over the last week, the u.s. military conducted humanitarian air drops every night delivering more than 114,000 meals and 35,000 gallons of fresh water. we were joined in that effort by the united kingdom and other allies who pledged their support. our military was able to successfully strike isil targets around the mountain which improved conditions for civilians to evacuate the mountain safely. yesterday a small team of

americans, military and civilian, completed their review of the conditions on the mountain. they found that food and water had been reaching those in need and that thousands of people had been evacuating safely each and every night. the civilians who remain continue to leave aided by kurdish forces and yazidis who are helping to facilitate the safe passage of their families. so the bottom line is that the situation on the mountain has greatly improved, and americans should be very proud of our efforts. because the skill and professionalism of our military and the generous the i of our people -- generosity of our people, we broke the siege of mount sinjar, we helped vulnerable people reach safety and helped save innocent lives. because of these efforts, we do not expect there to be an additional operation to evacuate people off the mountain, and it's unlikely that we're going to need to continue humanitarian air drops on the mountain. the majority of the military

personnel who conducted the assessment will be leaving iraq in the coming days. and i just want to say that as commander in chief, i could not be prouder of the men and women of our military who carried out this humanitarian operation almost flawlessly. i'm very grateful to them, and i know that those who were trapped on that how mountain are extraordinarily grateful as well. now, the situation remains dire for iraqis subject to isil's terror throughout the country, and this includes minorities like ya sities and iraqi christians, many sunnis, shia and kurds. but we're going to be working with our international partners to provide humanitarian assistance to those who are suffering in northern iraq wherever we have capabilities and we can carry out effective missions like the one we carried out on mount sinjar without committing combat troops on the ground. we obviously feel a great urge to provide some humanitarian

relief to the situation, and i've been very encouraged by the interest of our international partners in helping on these kinds of efforts as well. we will continue airstrikes to protect our people and facilities in iraq. we have increased the delivery of military assistance to iraqi and kurdish forces fighting isil on the front lines, and perhaps most importantly, we are urging iraqis to come together to turn the tide against isil, above all by seizing the enormous opportunity of forming a new, inclusive government under the leadership of prime minister-designate abadi. i had the chance to speak him a few days ago, and he spoke about the need for the kind of inclusive government, a government that speaks to all the people of iraq that is needed right now. he still has a challenging task in putting a government together, but we are mod

deathsly -- modestly hopeful that the iraqi government situation is moving in the right direction. now, second, i want to address something that's been in the news over the last couple of days, and that's the situation in ferguson, missouri. i know that many americans have been deeply disturbed by the images we've seen in the heardland of our country as police -- heartland of our country as police have clashed with people protesting. today i'd like us all to take a step back and think about how we're going to be moving forward. this morning i received a author rough -- thorough update on the situation from attorney general eric holder. i've already tasked the department of justice and the fbi to independently investigate the death of michael brown along with local officials on the ground. the department of justice is also consulting with local authorities about ways that they can maintain public safety without restricting the right of peaceful protest and while avoiding unnecessary escalation. i made clear to the attorney

general that we should do what is necessary to help determine exactly what happened and to see that justice is done. i also just spoke with governor jay nixon of missouri. i expressed my concern over the violent turn that events have taken on the ground and under scored that now's the time for all of us to reflect on what's happened and to find a way to come together going forward. he's going to be traveling to ferguson. he's a good man and a fine governor, and i'm confident that working together he's going to be able to communicate his desire to make sure that justice is done and his desire to headache sure that public safety -- to make sure that lick safety is maintained in an appropriate way. of course, it's important to remember how this started. we lost a young man, michael brown, in heartbreaking and tragic circumstances. he was 18 years old. his family will never hold michael in their arms again.

and when something like this happens, the local authorities -- including the police -- have a responsibility to be open and transparent about how they are investigating that death and how they are protecting the people in their communities. there is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting. there's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights. and here in the united states of america police should not be bullying or arresting moan journalists -- american journalists who are just trying to report what they see on the ground. put simply, we all need to hold ourselves to a high standard, particularly those of us in positions of authority. i know that emotions are raw right now in ferguson, and there are certainly passionate differences about what has

happened. there are going to have different accounts of how this tragedy occurred. there are going to be differences in terms of what needs to happen going forward. that's part of our democracy. but let's remember that we're all part of one american family, we are united in common values, and that includes belief in equality under the law, a basic respect for publicking order and the right -- public order and the light to peaceful public protest, a reverence for the dignity of every single man, woman and child among us and the need for accountability when it comes to our government. so now's the time for healing, now's the time for peace and calm on the streets of ferguson, now's the time for an open and transparent process to see that justice is done, and i've asked that the attorney general and the u.s. attorney on the scene continue to work with local officials to the move that process forward. they will be reporting to me in

the coming days about what's being done to make sure that happens. thanks very much, everybody. [inaudible conversations] >> all right, that was the president speaking at martha's slip yard, giving us -- vineyard, giving us an update on the situation in missouri as well as the situation in iraq. as far as the protests in missouri, speaking specifically about the teenager who was shot, michael brown, 18 years old who died in the shooting, he said now is the time find a way to come together and move forward. and as far as the situation as iraq, and i want to open this up to the couch, he did say that the united states will continue their humanitarian air drops on the mountain, continue airstrikes. the conditions were surveyed by the united states on top of the mountain yesterday. they said, he said food and water are reaching the people that need it, the situation there has greatly improved, and the mission helped save many innocent lives. your reaction to the president's comments, stephen. >> well, i thought on iraq the president just basically described what the united states had done and then gave no way forward, which i thought he

should have done. on the situation in ferguson, he did almost the opposite. he said here's how we need to proceed forward, we need everybody to take a step back. he called on local authorities to be transparent, which i think is something that the president is right to say. but in trying to be reassuring about the department of justice and the fbi investigating, i don't think it's going to have the reassuring effect that the president thinks it might precisely because the department of justice has been so political throughout his time in office. >> right. and everybody's watching. not just americans, but all around the world. we talked a little bit about jordan and kuwait and other countries, lebanon, who are nervous about this. the end game, kirsten, are we learning that there the white house? >> no, i think he's right. i don't think he gave us a way forward, and i also think he might be overstating the situation in terms of how much we've alleviated the humanitarian crisis. >> she's right. >> i think he's downplaying it. >> no, she's right, and i think he knows that, and it's hard. and that's why i encourage him to do the right thing, because

this is one choice here. >> we are staying right here on "outnumbered online." we'll see you back here on tv, noon eastern tomorrow. "happening now". ♪ ♪ >> fox news alert, president obama just speaking out about the progress the u.s. military has made in averting a humanitarian crisis this iraq. he also called for calm, said it's time for healing in the city of ferguson, missouri. welcome to a new hour of "happening now," i'm ed henry in for jon scott. heather: and i'm heather childers, in for jenna lee, and thanks for joining us. the president making his remarks from martha's vineyard where he is vacationing. his comments come one day after pentagon officials announced they successfully broke a siege by islamic militants where thousands of yazidis were trapped or dying from lack of food and water. national security correspondent