hear my radio show any time you want. follow me on twitter and facebook as well. that is it for us tonight. thanks for watching. i'm laurain gram and i'm in for the irreplaceable bill o'reilly. and remember, the spin, it stops right here because we're always looking out for you. breaking tonight, the white house has declared a win in the latest battleibo in iraq. but how will they ultimately stop isis? the acknowledged world's most powerful terror group at this point. welcome to "the kelly file," everybody. so the president and the pentagon today addressed the country about the crisis in iraq. this is the sixth day this week that they have had to come before the cameras and do explaining about this issue. and the message that we got, let's just say it was mixed at best. while the white house declared that the air strikes and the food drops had halted the terrorist campaign to hunt down and kill thousands of iraqi christians and others, both the president and the military admitted that the larger

challenge that remains is indeed daunting. >> because the skill and professionalism of our military and the generosity of our people, we broke the isil siege on mt. sinjar, we helped vulnerable reach safety and we helped save many innocent lives. now, the situation remains dire for iraqis sungt to isil easter ror throughout the country. >> while our air strikes and humanitarian aid have had an impact on the situation in northern iraq, there is still no american military solution to the larger crisis in iraq. nobody's doing high-fives here at the pentagon because there are fewer people on the mountain than we thought. and there's no happy dances here because we think the situation is better there on the mountain. we understand that there continues to be human suffering. >> yeah, so how much suffering and how bad is it still there? because we're getting a lot of conflicting reports about how many people are still left on

that mountain. we put together some of the latest statistics on all this and they are frightening. the terror group isis now controls basically what is its own country. they call themselves the islamic state. they've captured everything from major cities to small villages across a section of land that is the size of belgium. just this week they made new gains in syria taking new territory this week. and capturing three more iraqi towns. the group now has between 10,000 and 15,000 armed fighters. and they're actively recruiting across the middle east. they amount to an estimated 10,000 operations in iraq last year alone. and they have driven more than 200,000 christians and other minorities from their homes. there's about 5% of the christians that were in the middle east remain there at this point. that's a pretty big victory for them. they're armed to the teeth. they have more than 1,500 armored humvees, dozens of hall itsers and a couple m-1 tanks and supply of antiaircraft

weapons mostly all american-made and left behind after the war. how did this situation happen, right? they've carried out more than 1,000 public executions including beheadings and crucifying people in town villages. they have buried people alive. they have taken women and children hostage, according to eyewitness accounts, and taken them into slavery. and then they put it all up on social media. so that what's we have to deal with here. they have grabbed iraq's biggest dam, and they control the country's largest oil refinery. they have an estimated $2 billion in assets, yes, that is billion. and they are netting an estimated million dollars a day in the business that they are in, which is selling oil on the black market. it's a pretty lucrative business. so the u.s. has said it is up to iraq to stop them. so the terrorists are living out of osama bin laden's wildest dream at this point really. with just a few minor setbacks. joining me now is lieutenant colonel oliver north. colonel, always a pleasure to

have you with us. this is a very grim picture that we have just laid out. >> yes, it is. and it's all right on the mark. the interesting thing that i found today during the briefings was they described they had to send people up on the mountain to find out how many people were left there and what condition they were in, and we've got something in the neighborhood of 60 isr and attack flights over top of iraq every single day. and so why they couldn't tell by looking at the imagery is a little bit confusing to me, but maybe things have changed since i was a marine. i think what you've got is a very, very difficult circumstance, martha, because all he promised to do today was to "work with our international partners to provide humanitarian assistance to those who are suffering in northern iraq." that was it. he made no other commitments except his usual promise that whatever we do we're going to do it without combat troops on the ground. this is a very difficult thing to understand if we're going to continue to do nothing but parachute food and water to

refugees who've lost everything as they flee for their lives, it makes no sense. isis or isil, islamic state, whatever they're calling themselves this week and what they're going to call themselves tomorrow, aren't militants and rebels are not extremists. they are as you pointed out a 10,000 to 15,000-strong terrorist army. the largest, best equipped, wealthiest and most sang wi nair force on the planet. their ethnic cleansing poses an immediate threat to al abadi in baghdad. and every single christian, yazidi, shiite and secular sunni muslim within their reach. if they consolidate their control over their so-called caliphate, that genocidal fury is going to be cast to us. pope francis was more direct in his comments yesterday than we've heard from our president today. and everyone, i think certainly

in our bureau, has seen the convert or die issues or warnings issued to christians. maybe the pope has a better intelligence service than we do, or maybe he just cares more about human beings. >> we're going to talk about that incredible stance that's been taken by the vatican. a very rare stance in essentially calling for military force. you know, when that's where you're at, it seems to me that it would be fairly easy and logical that you'd be able to mass a large coalition of countries, including the vatican, who are against this group. this is a pretty easy group to hate. so why isn't the president gathering the forces of our allies and saying, look, this is a huge problem. lebanon and jordan as you point out may be the next stop whachlt are we all going to get together and do? that's what he would profess he would do when president was get people together and figure out when necessary. >> one of the only good pieces of news in all of this is that isis or isil or whatever they

call themselves have now captured abandoned u.s. and saddam-era russian material and equipment they are now recruiting and advertising for mechanics and technicians to maintain the armored vehicles. if we don't do more, like get another battle group out there, we've made a serious mistake. >> job's available sounds like. colonel north, great to hear from you. interesting fascinating take on all of this. so the white house has had to deal with the criticism of making these decisions while the president's on vacation in martha's vineyard. ed henry is here with his thoughts on this tonight. they dug in. the president's on vacation. we all understand that. we do know that the white house travels with the president, that there's plenty of sophisticated communication, but it still remains problematic for them. >> oh, sure. on the positive side what we should mention is nouri al maliki announced he's stepping down today. if they can actually get a new government formed, that's still

a big if. also we shouldn't dismiss the fact that the initial part of this operation, if it prevented a genocide of up to 40,000 ethnic and religious minorities, that's important as well obviously. but as colonel north points out, as you've pointed out, we see these pictures, we still don't know how many people are on that mountain, how many have already been killed, how many could be slaughtered in the days ahead. that's a big problem. the pentagon, when you see those statements they're admitting we're slowing isis down but we're not in their own words stopping their momentum. so how does that work? now the optics are interesting because you're right, before the vacation they kept telling us in the white house press corps, look, the white house follows everywhere. it doesn't matter. remember in texas with the border crisis they said photo ops don't matter. look at the photos put out this week. the president with susan rice, two fingers on the temple, he's digging in, getting his briefings, they put out a separate statement on what

happened in missouri tonight. >> these are the pictures they should be putting out. personally has to balance the golf pictures and party pictures from last night which also have come out. >> and to the temple again. he's thinking about this hard, right? that's the message they're trying to send. he's made two statements. sometimes we're back at the white house, we don't hear from the president twice in one week. twice this week, first one there he was in front of a vacation home there and it looked kind of nice. today they changed it up. he was at the school where the press is. they had a blue backdrop, the flags. the point is they realize after saying for days and days and days we don't care about the optics, look at this picture side by side, that they've got to step it up and deal with it. all these are going on while he's vacationing. interesting, afterward went right to the golf course. we didn't get those images. the white house did sort of dismiss this idea there was going to be a problem, they

realize with all the national security crises it's a problem. >> and thank you. let's bring in former presidential campaign manager, presidential campaign veteran. joe, you've been listening to all of this. what do you think about the situation politically at this point for the president? >> look, i think a lot of what happened today was pretty good news for the president. particularly maliki stepping down. because that really is the only chance iraq has of pulling together. there was no way it was going to hold together with him sort of holding on and trying to push -- trying to hold onto power and keep his sort of -- you know, he had done so many policies actually enabled isis to come into iraq because of the way he had treated the sunni. they actually sided with isil because they thought isil would help them take out the central government and maliki. so with him leaving, there really is a chance now -- it's going to be difficult if the optics are not good.

ed's right about that. but i think one -- i have friends in irbil who when i was in iraq, you know, saved me a couple of times. they were terrified a few days ago. they were literally ready to flee. that city was on the verge of real panic. and today they're ready to fight. and so a lot of what the president has done and what the american troops have done and advisors has done is instill some confidence in the kurds, get them some weapons, british and french are doing that now too, and you've got maliki stepping aside. i think there's a real shot here to put this thing -- to now take the frontal position of going after isil. but that is going to have to be a unified iraq, martha. it's not going to be american troops that can keep that country together now. it's kurds and sunni and shia fighting together. united they stand, divided they

fall. i think they figured it out. the one great thing about this crisis is i think it's brought them together. >> let's hope. as you say. some good points from today. and maliki on the way out is the biggest plus of all. the humanitarian situation, i think, a lot that we still need to learn about what's really going on where that's concerned, joe. thank you very much. and thanks to colonel north and ed henry here in the studio tonight as well. so we mentioned a moment ago how the vatican's taking a strong stand against this terror group. that part of the story we will talk about next. and we're also of course watching the situation tonight in ferguson, missouri. live pictures here as the police are hoping to head off a new round of rioting tonight. we're going to show you now who is getting the blame for all of this. that's coming up. huh, fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. everybody knows that.

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front lines. >> reporter: martha, president obama may be the refuge siege is not -- but the job is not done. there are still ethnic yazidis on that mountain. . there are tens of thousands swamping refugee camps away from the mountain. all told there's something like 1.5 million refugees in northern iraq, a few hundred thousands here in irbil alone. obama's also admitted that isis remains a threat to the country. we confirmed that today in a town near here. take a look. this is the town just a couple of days ago was run by isis militants. then the kurdish fought them back. but the residents haven't come back. that's because we are told the militants are just a coupleles . all around the town signs of the battle. u.s. air strikes on an isis convoy are also credited in helping defeat isis in the town. but they remain a threat in the

area. they've cut off water to the place. when we were there a convoy were hit by an isis ied. four soldiers were injured. just an example of the guerilla style approach to these fighters. we talked to a commander. he wants the u.s. to continue air strikes. he wants it to send heavy weapons. as for more u.s. boots on the ground, he says he doesn't need it as long as he gets that fire power. president obama did say there would be more weapons coming to the kurdish fighters here. small comfort to these folks who really have their hands full. martha. >> greg, thank you. so the vatican in a rare move says that it will support the use of air strikes against isis militants. and that breaks a long standing position of disapproving war. they released this statement, military action might be necessary. and "intervention now before it is too late." joining me now is francis

campbell, former british ambassador to the vatican. sir, welcome. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you, martha. >> how significant is this move and this statement by the vatican? >> martha, it's a very significant development. as you know, the vatican and pope john paul ii was firmly against the war in iraq in 2003. this is a very significant development, but it's in line with basic catholic teaching and justice, force may well have to be used. and the words coming out of the vatican over the last 48 hours are indeed very serious. a letter from pope francis to the u.n. secretary general asking the u.n. secretary general and the international community to use all the mechanisms and international law at the u.n.'s disposal to actually help avert this crisis, to help tackle it. that includes perhaps a chapter 7 operation, which would be peace enforcement.

not peace keeping but peace enforcement. >> what does that mean? chapter 7. >> yes, that is correct. what has gone on here and what i think is alarming to the vatican and indeed to a lot of christians to a lot of people worldwide is why this situation has been allowed to reach this stage. isis went into mosul two months ago. on the 18th of july they issued an ultimatum to christians on the 18th of july to either pay a tax, convert or to face the sword. so we do have a crisis at the moment on a mountain, but we also have isis currently in control of major towns in northern iraq where there were or indeed perhaps are significant religious minorities including christians. those christians -- >> i'm sorry. i want to ask you this question. in terms of muslims, there's a

call from the vatican to moderate muslims to rise up against this group as well. is there not? >> that is correct. the vatican's interfaith department issued a statement two days ago basically calling on people in particular muslim leaders to show unity and to step forward and to condemn this. and really on ambiguous terms. and i think that is essential to actually show that interfaith dialogue is alive and well, that isis numbering perhaps 15,000 to 16,000 fighters, some of them coming from europe, but they do not represent islam. they do not represent dialogue between religions. and they need to be roundly condemned by all religious leaders. that's what the vatican's looking for. >> francis campbell, thank you very much. strong words. >> thank you very much, martha. >> very important. so there was a stunning revelation today from the wife of robin williams. just ahead. plus, a dramatic twist in what

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we are back. and developing tonight there are some new worries about a possible russian invasion of ukraine. this hasn't gotten a ton of attention given everything else that's going on, but it's a very big issue. there's a look at the convoy of about 280 trucks reportedly carrying humanitarian aid. and they suddenly took a detour. they went out of their way to avoid an official ukrainian checkpoint where they had gotten the message they probably weren't going to get through. and instead headed to a pro-russian rebel checkpoint to

et into thecan; country that way. what is really going on here? bob sexton is a former cia officer, former nypd intelligence specialist and national security editor for theblaze.com. >> we know at a minimum this is going to do a couple things useful for putin and also helpful to the russian-backed pro-russian separatists. for one, it's going to give them some sense of resupply. they're going to give them food, water, other humanitarian -- there are humanitarian items that are in this convoy to be sure. at a minimum will do that which will help the separatists because they're besieged right now by the ukrainian government. this is going to be useful. what's probably more useful is once the russians do cross the border, assuming they cross the border in this convoy, they'll be able to fan out, essentially create a shield. now the ukrainian government is going to be more careful about how it's going to push back against the separatists. you don't want to create any russian casualties, particularly humanitarian casualties on the

ground. that's going to be a very serious concern i think going forward for them as well. those are the things that will definitely happen. the other component could be weapons essentially. if they actually decide they're going to smuggle in more or use this to bring in some additional weaponry across the border. but they've already been doing that for some time. that's probably not as much of a concern. i think it's more likely they're going to use this to create a buffer, create some distance and relieve some of the pressure on the separatists so the ukrainian government says we're going to step back a little bit. >> it's fascinating to watch putin over this whole period. because crimea was easy. a couple of days and everyone was outraged that he had gone into crimea. and literally within 48 hours people are saying, well, crimea's gone. that's a done deal. so ukraine, taking his time with this one. sort of watching the situation. he's got as you say a military that are in there that's surrounded in donetsk. so what do you think he's thinking in terms of everything else on the world stage and his time sng. >> he has a lot of support domestically. and he's seen that continue on.

i think at a minimum he also gets this sort of pr bounce of being the guy who is sending humanitarian aid via this convoy down into ukraine. but the ukrainian government has surprised a lot of people with how effective they've been at pushing back against the separatists recently. so there's a sense of urgency here as well. putin could essentially lose the whole game here. as i said, there's definitely resupply and concept of creating a shield from the ukrainian government and i think he's going to lose the whole gamble. on top of that there's a possibility of a miscalculation or some kind of flash point that e involves into an armed conflict between ukraine and russia. they're moving troops and vehicles back and forth. it's not hard to imagine there could be some shooting and russia goes in to protect their guys. >> another hot spot to watch closely. buck, thanks so much for being here. coming up, we are going to talk to the single mom now facing ten years for accidentally crossing a state border with her gun that was licensed.

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breaking tonight, we have live pictures from ferguson, missouri at this hour where we are watching and waiting to see if there's a change in command that happened today in ferguson, missouri, is going to make a difference in the situation that has been going on between police and the protesters there. fox news correspondent mike tobin is live on the scene tonight with the latest. good evening, mike. >> reporter: well, everybody's worried about the violence. but if there's going to be violence, it really is in the hands of this crowd.

because as we pan around and get a look at this crowd, they're getting more rowdy as the night goes on. but what you won't see is any police. you'll hear a lot of this chanting, hands up, don't shoot. you'll hear a lot of horns honking. you'll see a lot of young people getting fired up, other people getting fired up, excitement taking on more of the atmosphere of a block party than demonstration. we've seen candle lit vigils. we do see some young men, in fact as we go across the street there, there's some young men with their faces covered up. doesn't mean they're going to start trouble. just means their faces are covered up. that's the kind of thing, it adds a little bit of tension to the mix. what doesn't add friction to the mix is the presence of police. and that seems to be a very conscious decision made by captain ron johnson with the missouri highway state patrol who's taken over the operation here. intentionally removing the police from the scene to eliminate the friction. so now you'll have the people out demonstrating, the message is if you want to demonstrate, you want to express yourself,

you can go all night. you're not going to see the police unless it gets ugly. captain johnson has indicated the police are nearby, they can show up if needed, but if they're not needed, you're not going to see them. this is in contrast to what we saw yesterday. you saw the heavy handed tactics of the police. that put fuel on the fire. there are about 60 demonstrators out, now we see hundreds. >> mike, thank you very much. we'll keep an eye on the live pictures. and president obama addressed this situation saying today there is no excuse for the violence. >> there is never an excuse for violence against police or for those who would use this tragedy as a cover for vandalism or looting. there's also no excuse for police to use excessive force against peaceful protests or to throw protesters in jail for lawfully exercising their first amendment rights. and here in the united states of

america police should not be bullying or arresting journalist who is are just trying to do their jobs. >> that was the president today. and jeffrey mittman joins me now, he's the executive director of the aclu of missouri. the group just filed two lawsuits today against the ferguson police department. jeffrey, welcome. good to have you here tonight. explain to us what you filed today and why. >> martha, thanks so much. appreciate the chance to speak with you. we filed two lawsuits as you said. the first relates to missouri's sunshine law, and that sets forth that an incident report, the who, what, where, why and when of the police contact is a public document. that that belongs to the people. that we need to have information available to us so we know what occurs. the second lawsuit references what you just spoke of what the president spoke of, which is we are americans. the first americans cover our right to peacefully protest against the government. and we want to make sure that whoever's in charge recognizes it and respects the rights of the press, the public and

protesters to the police actions that may or may not occur. >> understood. and i think they're going to have to produce that incident report, as you say, it is a matter of public record. we'll see if that is forthcoming. what about the issue of the name of the police officer? where do you stand on that? >> you know, really what the aclu has said from the beginning is what's important here is the rule of law. you have a community that is concerned about the actions of police that doesn't feel the rule of law protects them. we wanted this investigation to start on the right foot, to be independent and transparent. in that regard we have called on the police to release the public record and to follow the rule of law so they can make a clear statement that they are doing what the law requires. if their particular information that they believe they need to redact, to block out, that's something we can discuss. but the first step is do what you're required to do under our missouri laws. >> and officer is innocent until

proven guilty. he'll need the protection of the law as well, you agree with that, sir? >> absolutely. the aclu doesn't look at any issue from partisan perspective. we look at it from a constitutional perspective. >> thank you very much, jeffrey. good to have you with us tonight. >> thank you. so a lot of people are criticizing the ferguson police for responding to the with rye yat gear, protests and a lot of heavy equipment. but the police chief said his officers have been very unnerved by this situation and that he believes they are indeed in extreme danger. >> last night we started getting -- started getting rocks, bricks, bottles thrown at us and a molotov cocktail and a gun went off. the whole picture is being painted sideways from what's really happening. and it's not military, it's tactical operations. it's s.w.a.t. teams. that's who's out there. police. we're doing this in blue. >> jason riley is a member of

the board. thanks for being with us. new developments, the president spoke out today about all of this. there's also been a change with the highway patrol being brought in to be the main law enforcement lead on all of this. and they've taken a very different tact as we've been talking about. what's your reaction? >> the equivocation in the president's statement bothers me as if there's moral qualification between the riots are doing. the rioters and looters are breaking the law. the police are there to stop that. they're doing their job. that's what they should be doing. i find it very disturbing that the president won't simply repudiate what these unlawful people are doing. i don't understand why his sympathy isn't with the law-abiding residents of these communities. that's ultimately who's going to be hurt by what's going on. >> but he did talk, jason, abous violence being never justified

in any situation today. >> but he also said the cops shouldn't be overreacting, which is suggesting that they are overreacting. and i don't know that that's true. you have a police chief saying our men are getting molotov cocktails and rocks thrown at them. i think the police are responding accordingly. and, again, why aren't the president and the white house's sympathies with the law-abiding residents of these neighborhoods? you know, these businesses are going to flee this neighborhood. and that means the businesses who stay there are going to charge higher prices, have less competition. the law-abiding residents of these neighborhoods are going to have to travel further away for decent prices for groceries and gas and so forth. that is ultimately what is going to happen here. and who is looking out for their interests here? why are we sympathizing with these lawbreakers? i find that disturbing. >> jason, thank you very much. good to have you with us tonight. the picture and videos we've gotten out of ferguson are very dramatic as you've seen. but missouri governor jay dixon says these are not common for

this small town. >> what's going on here over the last few days is not what missouri's about. it's not what ferguson's about. this is a place where people work, go to school, raise their families and go to church. a diverse community. a missouri community. lately it's looked a bit like a war zone. and that's unacceptable. >> that's the governor jay nixon. dana joining me now radio america talk show host. good to have you back on the show tonight. welcome. >> thanks for having me. thank you. >> you lived not far from this area. and i know you have some personal thoughts about what's going on here. what do you think? >> you know, i grew up in missouri. and st. louis is my home city. i live minutes from ferguson. i could see the arch out of my backyard. i have family and friends still in ferguson, in fact i have friends sending me photos. they're out there right now sending me photos. i don't agree with governor nixon on a lot, but he did not hit on something. this is not -- this is a diverse area. and it was actually in a

t%mm9 back.s coming new community center, new businesses coming in and the problem is that the ferguson police department, they said this monday, the number of people when they released the mugshots of people arresting for looting the night prior, all individuals had criminal records and not a single one were from ferguson. there are a lot of outside influences that are getting the attention of the media. there are protesters and then the people rioting and looting and throwing the molotov cocktails and bricks at the cops. these are two different entities that should not be con flated. and the looters, they're looting more than just the businesses. they're looting the narrative from these peaceful protests. school was supposed to start this week. >> great points. and obviously you feel very strongly about it because it is your hometown. president obama got some flak today for pictures that came out from the party that he went to last night. and then, you know, just pose that with his statement today and how strongly he feels about this situation as well.

is that a tough thing to sort of justify, those two images? >> yeah. i mean, it is -- to me it seems a little tone deaf. the fact it was tweeted out by the white house simultaneously while this was happening, i don't begrudge him for taking a vacation. everybody gets a vacation, but be a little sensitive to the fact that ferguson has been burning and smoldering for the past four days. and respect lacy clay only spoke out a couple days ago and then today he used the murder word. the last time i checked this was still the united states of america. we have due process, everyone gets the benefit of the doubt until it's figured out otherwise. >> dana, thank you very much. >> thank you. so we also learned tonight that attorney general eric holder had spent time speaking with the family of the teenager who was shot. what isn't clear is whether he has spoken to the other side of this equation, to the officer tható'6dráhr'volved in all of t while he was doing that. andy mccarthy is next on what the d.o.j.'s role is in all of

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this case, the officer involved in this whole thing as well. at this point we don't know. we have no reason to think there was any discussion there, but we will find out. andy mccarthy is a former federal prosecutor and contributing editor at the national review and joins me now. what do you make first of this meeting, this sit-down with the parents? >> you know, i don't think it's a bad thing to let the parents know that the fbi is looking into it. >> sure. >> and there will be an independent investigation. since that seems to be a big concern for them. i'm not crazy about the idea of the attorney general doing it. and particularly the fact that this is an attorney general with a history. you know, he was very heavy-handed in the trayvon martin situation. a lot of people pointed out that there really was no civil rights case. and there was no homicide case as tragic as that event was. he put his thumb on the scale, kind of pushed the state authorities into bringing a murder case that turned out to be meritless. and then had to confess afterwards that there really was no civil rights case either.

it doesn't help the state prosecution, if there is a state prosecution, to set up a defense where, you know, the potential lawyers will end up saying the case was brought when the attorney general brought pressure, not because there was strong evidence for it. >> the doj's role in all of this is tricky. they have these community outreach people who are there talking to the protesters. what are they doing there? >> look, this is like when people say the community organizer and chief, they don't need, you know, an education from the justice department in how to do protests. the american people were doing protests -- >> what do you think they are doing there? >> they're doing the same thing they did apparently in the trayvon martin case, which issage stating and appearing to take sides. i think it's really bad because what needs to happen here is there needs to be an objective state investigation. and if it turns out that this police officer is in the wrong, he needs to be prosecuted. but you have to let the system

work its way out and play its way out. >> i mean, we're not hearing a whole lot of that. we're not hearing that this officer is innocent until proven guilty. we're not hearing the fact that the forensics and what happened in that car and where these bullets landed are going to tell so much of this story, are they not? >> that's exactly right. really the fewer witnesses there are this really will end upcoming down to the forensics. but the important thing is what the justice department should be doing here is trying to calm the situation down and make sure that whoever has an interest in this comes away thinking it was an investigation with integrity and that's the ultimate result was a just result. and if you look like you're putting your thumb on the scale at the beginning, you're not helping that along. >> andrew mccarthy, thank you very much. good to have you here tonight. good to see you again. there are some new details we want to share with you on the passing of robin williams, what his wife has just revealed about him coming up next.

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drove from pennsylvania to new jersey. she has no prior record. i recently spoke with ms. allen and her attorney. shanine, let me start with you, explain to everybody at home what pulled over by the police. i really didn't even think about the firearm being in my purse at the time until he asked for my credentials. when i went in my purse, before i went to get my credentials i saw my firearm laying there. so i let them know, you know, i had my license to carry on me and i had my firearm in my purse. as i let them know that, that's when they started to lock me up and told me to step out of the vehicle and put cuffs on me. >> why do you generally carry a gun in your bag? >> well, that particular day -- i only have my firearm when i'm weak. so the next day i was actually going to the range to learn how to shoot it at the time. >> one of the ironies in this case is that the judge that made

the decision -- you had sought a pretrial intervention for her so that she might have the opportunity to not go through a trial in this case given all of these circumstances that we're talking about. the irony is that the judge who made that decision and would not grant that to you did grant that exemption to ray rice who had knocked his girlfriend unconscious at a casino hotel and dragged her out of an elevator, isn't that right? >> that is true. ray rice was actually indicted for aggravated assault, domestic violence. and he was permitted into the pretrial intervention program, which allows a first offender to avoid a criminal conviction and avoid jail time. >> shanine, what do you think about the fact that ray rice got that exemption and you didn't get it from this judge? >> well, actually i felt like i have no second chance in the situation. i wasn't a threat to the police. i wasn't a threat to anybody.

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for more of our interview with oliver north, go to facebook.com/kellyfile. this is "the kelly file." you must disburse now. this is no longer a peaceful protest when you try to injure people. >> there is gunfire. there are fire bombs being thrown at the police. but it looks like not good. >> many americans have been deeply disturbed by the images we've seen in the heart land of our country. >> started getting rocks, bricks, bottles thrown at us and then a molotov cocktail and then gunfire went off. >> if you're angry, throw up your arms. if you want justice, throw your arms up. if you want answers, throw your