rare. >> hard to diagnose. >> for sure. gentlemen, thank you very much. nice to see you guys. >> great job, guys. >> thank you so much. we loved hanging out with you today. appreciate it. >> take care. thanks for watching. she's coming back at 3:30. it's a jam-packed news day today. tear gas, smoke, arrests. ferguson protesters violate curfew, occupy a restaurant and then things go downhill from there. we'll take you there live in moments. day three. american air strikes teaming up with kurdish and iraqi ground forces. their goal, take back the mosul dam from isis terrorists. house foreign affairs committee chairman ed royce will weigh in. and rick perry lashes out at the felony charges filed against him. what did he say in his only sunday show appearance on "fox news sunday"? a live report coming your way. i'm doug mcelway. america's news headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. disperse the area immediately.

you are in violation of the imposed curfew. you are subject to arrest. you must leave immediately. >> sights and sounds from last night in a very restive ferguson. there is a state of emergency in effect and a curfew that prot t protesters ignored. police fired tear gas and made seven arrests. and just moments ago attorney general eric holder ordered a federal autopsy in the case. and fox has learned the federal government also didn't want the release of the michael brown robbery video. let's turn it over now to mike tolbin on the ground in ferguson with how things are right now. hi, mike. >> reporter: well, doug, barely any protesters out here on a rainy sunday morning, but we did not make it through the first night of the curfew without clashes with police. however, captain ron johnson of the state police made a point of clarifying that the clashes with police last night were not directly related to enforcement

of the curfew. rather there was a report of a gun. in fact, there were shots fired. someone was hit and taken to the hospital in critical condition. beyond that, police had information that demonstrators had broken into a barbecue restaurant out here and were up on the roof. now, community leaders say what the demonstrators want is information about the shooting. but protesters have made it clear, they want officer darren wilson arrested and convicted. >> no. you want people that want action. they want justice for the family of michael brown. and so i don't consider it a lynch mob. >> reporter: now, captain ron johnson of the state police is really being criticized from two sides. one, they didn't use enough force and the looters ran wild the other night. two, they used too much force, and clashes with police or scenes of clashes are police play out almost every night. doug? >> mike tobin in ferguson, thank you. let's take a look now at

where we've come in just the past week's time. on august 9th, michael brown was shot. residents there, again, gathering at the scene, leaving rose petals. a vigil the next day turns into confrontation with police. and looting. on august 13th, police detained several reporters and have the worst clashes with protesters since the unrest began. the next day, president obama calls for an end to the violence there, and attorney general holder expresses concern over military style policing. august 14th, governor nixon announces the highway patrol will take over security led by captain ron johnson. on august 15th, police release a video showing brown robbing a convenience store. and after days of secrecy, they name officer darren wilson as brun's shooter. and then last night, despite the curfew imposed by governor nixon, protests and clashes resume. we've taken the conversation online about this ferguson situation, asking you for your thoughts on the situation there. phillip says until the facts are clear, the rioting will continue.

mike writes that the people of ferguson are angry. nothing can stop them right now. you all have to wait. give them time. and shane comments, this is not how mlk jr. would want to see protests and demonstrations. #peacefulprotest. keep sharing your comments with us. tweet me @dougmcelway. after three days of u.s. air strikes at the mosul dam, kurdish fighters have retain control of some parts of that area. it's being called an extensive ground operation. that amid new rumors another 300 yazidi men may have been massacred by isis. jennifer griffin is monitoring the situation now. jennifer? >> doug, we now have the first images of air strikes in and around the mosul dam. the video was provided by the defense department. kurdish fighters backed by another 14 u.s. air strikes

today have retaken part of the dam. progress has been made, describing the operation as extensive, ongoing and multiphased. today key hill democrats said they can't rule out u.s. ground forces might be needed. >> i think what they're doing now is effective. we've got to do more of it. and ultimately, we may have some boots on the ground there. not something i want, but you know what? we have bad choices. and the worst choice is to do something. >> kurdish fighters say that isis fitters seen in this video from early august have mined the roads around the dam. iraqi military units with bomb disposal capabilities en route now to the dam. u.s. officials were concerned the dam would be used as a weapon. if it floods, it would send a wall of water 60 feet high toward mosul 30 miles away and flood the capital, baghdad, including the u.s. embassy there. there are -- and as doug mentioned, there are new reports

of 300 yazidi men being slaughtered by isis fighters in the village near sinjar. u.s. officials have confirmed about 90 yazidi men were massacred on friday. hundreds of women and children from the area are said to have been kidnapped after isis fighters demanded they report to the local school and register their families. men were separated from women and marched away and killed. u.s. air strikes could not halt that massacre. the usa.s. air force to will to protect iraq's infrastructure according to u.s. defense officials. doug? >> thank you, jennifer. for more insight on the situation in iraq, let's turn now to congressman ed royce, chairman of the house foreign affairs committee. mr. chairman, thanks very much for joining us. >> good to be with you. >> one thing i want to get to right off the top here, i'm very curious and skeptical about why the administration continues to telegraph its tactical intentions here. listen to what the president said on thursday. and i want to get your comment.

>> we do not expect there to be an additional operation to evacuate people off the mountain.likely that we're going to continue to need humanitarian air drops on the mountain. the majority of the military personnel who conducted the assessment will be leaving iraq in the coming days. >> why would you want to tell them you're going to be leaving in the coming days? >> you know, this is one of the concerns that i think many of us have. it's not just what we telegraph but what we imply we might do and then we don't do it, such as arming the syrian army, with the wherewithal to fight isis or more recently the kurds. now, i was -- i was inquiring yesterday, and the kurdish foreign minister confirmed that they still had not received from this administration the heavy weaponry that they had requested, specifically anti-tank missiles, specifically they need armor. they need artillery because at

this point, you know, they can't turn back isis without that type of heavy equipment. and why the administration has not provided that yet is another question mark. so you had an opportunity -- >> let me ask you about that because i know that the administration originally was supplying those weapons, allegedly, through the iraqi government. and then there was some lack of confidence that the iraqi government would provide those weapons to the kurds. so the administration made a decision to provide the weapons directly to the kurds. you're telling us that has not happened now? >> i'm telling you that as of yesterday, the foreign minister said he had not received these weapons. now, i know the british, the french and the czechs are all going into high gear. those governments now to try to get that -- those types of weapons into the hands of the kurdish forces. but this is seven months too late. and frankly, you know, we had the opportunity with armed drones, for example, to provide

air support, to hit isis from the air. that was not done as #bj moved across syria. and town by town took fallujah, took mosul. so we here are in the position, of course, what makes the most sense to us is to allow the kurds to do the fighting. there's no support for u.s. troops going back into iraq. but there's all the logic in the world in supporting the free syrian army or the kurdish forces to do this fighting. why the administration can't manage to get the heavy equipment into their hands is one of the mysteries of the bureaucracy in washington, i guess. >> you mentioned the fact that isis now controls fallujah and mosul. george will on fox news sunday made the point that that becomes very difficult to remove them from such entrenched defensible positions. >> it does, it does. and this is the great pity in decisions which were suggested to the administration, not just

by our embassy in baghdad, not just by the governments in iraq, certainly by myself. we've had hearings on this subject. why were we not using those armed drones which could have flown right over those columns of isis fighters as they were leaving syria on the open desert and taken them out or provided later the air support for the kurds or iraqi forces? this was not -- this was not done. and so today we see the situation where instead foreign fighters are streaming in. you saw the coverage of this australian whose 7-year-old son holds up a victim's severed head. and he tweets out, "that's my boy." 150 australians are now fighting for isis. they've gone from australia in order to carry out jihad. and you have this messaging going out that they're coming back home in order to carry the

war on after they seize this caliphate. this is going to be a major problem for europe, certainly for australia and other countries where you see these outside foreign fighters go in to fight for isis. it is very much in our interest making certain the kurds have the wherewithal to defeat them on the ground. >> well, on that pessimistic note, chairman ed royce of the house foreign affairs committee, we appreciate your perspective. thank you very much, sir. >> thank you. turning now to eastern europe, pro-russian rebels shot down a ukrainian fighter plane over the luhansk region amid fighting. the pilot was able to eject. this as a russian aid convoy is waiting on the ukrainian border for clearance to bring supplies to suffering civilians in the region. the red cross said the main holdup is a lack of security guarantees from all sides in the conflict. texas governor rick perry is defending himself against accusations that he abused his power. a grand jury indicted the governor on felony charges for

carrying out a threat to veto $7.5 million in funding to the state's public integrity unit. peter ducey following that story now. peter? >> doug, governor perry just doesn't think the district attorney with a dwi conviction to be in a position of power. he doesn't want taxpayer money spent on a public integrity unit run by rosemary lemberg who was pulled over last year with a 0.239 blood-alcohol content. >> i very clearly, i very publicly said that as long as that individual is going to be running that agency, i had lost confidence in her. the public had lost confidence in her. and i did what every governor has done for decades, which is make a decision on whether or not it was in the proper use of state money to go to that agency. and i vetoed it. >> critics in texas see governor perry's veto threat differently, though, believing instead he

abused the power of his office in austin to try and muscle travis county d.a. rosemary lehmberg out of a job. >> it's not about the veto. we believe he had the right to veto it. and it was decision to veto it. it was about the intimidation before the veto. it was about him using the veto as a coercion tactic to get her to do something she didn't want to do, which was quit her job. >> in the next few days we could see a splash in travis county, texas, that could ripple all the way to the 2016 republican primaries. governor perry is expected to turn himself in this week at which point he will be booked, and in all likelihood, that means he will need to get fingerprinted and have a mug shot taken. doug? >> which his democratic opposition will use to full effect, no doubt. peter ducey, thank you very much. it's race day for nascar drivers. we're going to find out whether tony stewart is suiting up after last week's deadly accident. and also congress went on vacation without solving that

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increase from last year. and about 18,000 customs and border patrol agents are heading up enforcement on the southern border. for more, alberto gonzales has called on president obama to use executive action to deal with the crisis on the border, and he joins me now live. mr. attorney general, thank you very much. good to see you, sir. >> good to be with you. >> there is speculation that president obama will do something to grant perhaps some limited form of immunity or amnesty to as many as 5 million illegal aliens in the coming weeks. ? >> well, i think the president should use whatever authority he has under the constitution. and whatever that looks like, then after he takes action, i'd be in a much better position to say whether or not i agree as a matter of policy. obviously congress should be playing a role in doing it. they've left town. so if i'm in the white house advising the president as white house counsel, as the attorney general, i would tell the

president, this is the authority that you have. and mr. president, you should act on it. >> and pretty much elucidated your thinking in an op-ed recently in "usa today." you said, what is clear, however, is that the courts have been generally inclined to defer to the executive's discretion in executing the law based upon competing priorities and budgetary constraints. furthermore, often the courts refuse to even hear cases that present a political question. thus disputes over allocation of power between the elective branches are frequently resolved in the public arena, not the courts. describe the president's potential use of executive action. >> here's how i would describe it. certainly with respect to a single individual, if the executive branch wants that person to be deported, they deport him.

so he would have the power to make these decisions by groups. but at some point, it seems to me, there is total frustration of the law. and so the president does have to be careful about how he exercises the discretion. but the point i'm trying to make in the op-ed per the american people is that the courts have been very defer resifferential president in terms of execution of the law. and people need to understand at. and if congress is unhappy with the way the president exercises his discretion, they can cabinet by legislation, they can perhaps deal with it through appropriation limits, perhaps deal with it by blocking appointments. there are tools that congress can use if they are unhappy with the way the president exercises his discretion. but i just think everyone needs to understand the courts have been differential to the president's exercise that discretion. >> jump ago way from the legal realm into the political realm, do you think that the republican party needs to embrace some sort of limited amnesty to ensure his

own survival given the demographic shifts we're seeing in this country ? >> well, i wouldn't say we should ever accept amnesty. amnesty means complete forgiveness of wrongdoing. every responsible republican that i've talked to, i've heard speak about this, no one is advocating amnesty. i think what they're saying is with respect to certain qualified individuals, they should be allowed to remain in this country if they pay a fine or penalty, if they pay back taxes, if they show that they can provide for themselves. that is clearly not amnesty. so no one -- again, no responsible republican leader, as far as i'm concerned, is advocating for amnesty. >> you know, a lot of people maintain that this is grossly unfair to those people who are trying to go through the legitimate immigration system to become united states citizens. i want you to listen to a sound bite here from shapiro who is a scholar at the kato institute and an american citizen, but it wasn't easy. listen. >> i came to this country at age 18, as i said, to start college.

and i was on a series of student and nafta visas for a very long time. finally was able to apply for a green card when i left my law firm and joined cato. from that point, my green card application, because i went in as an alien of exceptionability took the lightning-quick time of 18 or 20 months. that is unheard of on sort of being a nobel laureate or an olympic athlete. so that took 20 months. after that i applied for citizenship five years later, and that took about 5 1/2 months. >> i guess that's why people say there's a double standard here. do you think there's unfairness in the system? >> well, i think that there is. and i have never advocated that those who are here unlawfully today, that we put them into some kind of permanent legal status ahead of those who follow the rules. what i'm suggesting is that there are a certain class of individuals who provide a necessary service, an important service that their workers here,

and they contribute to the economy. that we put them into some kind of temporary legal status. i totally agree, to put them into a permanent legal status, either a permanent resident or path to citizenship so they achieve that ahead of those who follow the rules, that would be contrary to our rules that believe in fairness, would be inconsistent to us as a nation being a rule of law. >> i want you to weigh in on a different subject. you've been following this crisis in ferguson, missouri. and particularly, the justice department made it clear that they did not want to release this videotape of the strong-armed robbery that michael brown was allegedly involved in. would you have released that video yourself if you were the attorney general today? >> i'm not in the position to opine on that, quite honestly. obviously, it was -- these kinds of investigations, it is important for the federal officials and state officials to

work together. and it's good that they're talking about what they're doing. sometimes there's simply disagreement about the tactics used. the key is whether or not the action by feds or action by state and locals, is it going to compromise the other investigation which is what they're worried about. undoubtedly general holder is concerned about whether or not this is going to inflame tensions. we've got some serious violence and heightened tensions in that community. and obviously, there's concerns about that. >> one more different topic for you. as you are no doubt aware, in your home state, the governor has been indicted. what do you think of the indictment? is it political? is it legitimate? >> you know, it's certainly easy to get an indictment. to go to the grand jury and get an indictment. just for me to understand that, i think -- you know, the governor has incredible powers in terms of veto authority under the constitution. some people may be offended, that he may have used the veto power as a threat to kind of

strong-arm certain conduct done by this district attorney. but my sense is, again, that if this goes to court, that i think it's going to be very difficult for a judge to find the governor abused his authority here. >> okay. look forward to what evolves in that case. former u.s. attorney general alberto gonzales, thanks very much for your time. good to see you, sir. >> good to be with you. a judge does something possibly unprecedented over lois lerner's missing irs e-mails. we're going to hear from the group asking the agency to turn them over. and a tech expert tells us if they really could be lost. and also, nationwide reaction to the unrest in ferguson, missouri. a live report coming your way. >> use of tear gas from afar to get the last few to disperse was a lot better than going in with armed -- basically armed troops. ♪

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a fox news alert now. an iraqi official says kurdish fighters have recaptured part of the area around the mosul dam from isis. for three days in a row now, u.s. air strikes are continuing to pound the area in efforts to quell terrorists' control. greg palcot is on the ground in erbil, iraq. greg? >> reporter: doug, i can tell you there are some happy people in this region of iraq. it looks like the united states is stepping up to the plate. as we have been reporting, u.s. bombers, jet fighters and drones made 14 bombing runs today, destroying or damaging 20 different isis assets including armed vehicles, humvees, armored personnel carriers and a militant checkpoint all around that strategic mosul dam held by isis. at the same time, there's been a ground operation led by the tough kurdish peshmerga fighters who we have spent time with as well as iraqi special forces under way. they have taken some towns captured by isis, and they came,

as you noted, to have taken portions of the dam area itself while officials here say they could take the entire dam shortly, they are dodging militant land mines and ieds. all of this is critical that is feared that isis terrorists could either burst or blow up this structure with a devastating effect. in fact, though, the border, it looks like they're recapturing that entire swath of area which had been under isis control. now, refugees in the hundreds of thousands driven from their homes should be pleased if isis is driven back. it's amid new reports we're getting today that ethnic minorities killed and kidnapped by militants. the yazidi village was the scene of a massacre on friday which left 80 dead. finally on this sunday, churches in areas not ravaged by isis were filled with christian refugees. they've been targeted, too. they are trying to get their lives back.

today kurdish and iraqi forces won back christian enclaves. from having talked to them this past week, it's going to take a lot more security to get them comfortable enough to return to this territory. one final note, doug, we spoke to one kurdish peshmerga fighter commander earlier this week, and he said keep up the air strikes, as long as we've got these air strikes, any more weapons, which looks like they're coming their way as well, we can beat these folks back. we'll see how it develops over the next couple of days. back to you. >> an encouraging sign. thank you, greg. a federal judge from the u.s. district court in washington made a bold step last thursday, pressing the internal revenue service for additional details about former agency official lois lerner's missing e-mails. judicial watch filed this freedom of information act lawsuit against the irs. the irs claimed to the court that tech experts did everything

they could to recover lois lerner's hard drive. let's bring in our guests now, ramona kotka and morgan wright, cybersecurity analyst and computer expert. thank you both for coming in. good to see you. >> you bet, doug. >> thank you. >> i want to get to you in just a second, morgan, about some of the forensic importance of this thing. as soon as the sworn declaration was made and released last night by you guys, judicial watch issued a statement. and in that statement he said, i'm going to quote here, the latest irs filing seems to treat as a joke judge sullivan's record requiring the irs to produce details about lerner's lost e-mails and any efforts to retrieve and produce them as required under law. frankly, it seems the cover-up continues. and then on thursday the judge came out with a new set of orders which seemed to convey, in fact, that he did kind of think this was a joke. >> absolutely. two things really stand in my mind from the declarations and the judge's orders here. first is that the irs is

continuing to withhold material information in our case with respect to lois lerner's e-mails. but then also that this court is not disengaged but rather interest the judge with what happened to these e-mails and what are theest efforts that t irs has been doing to produce this information. >> but these sworn declarations were overwhelming from techies, people who have no political interest in this. what would be their motivation to withhold information? >> well, you have to understand, there's information that's probably coming from the witnesses themselves and then these declarations are most likely being drafted and produced by the attorneys themselves within the irs. so these are declarations that have a lot of missing information, and there are a lot of gaps. and they don't speak, especially confirmed by judge sullivan's order, to other resources that judge sullivan was very adamant about at our hearing last month that the irs has to provide information, what other sources

are there from which these e-mails can be produced? >> and morgan, i know you're quite convinced that these e-mails have to exist somewhere because e-mails are not unique to the person who sends them. someone receives them. >> look, when this thing first broke out, we came down to fox several times. i said several things. she has an assistant who has subpoenaed and looked at her assistant's e-mail because the assistant gets a clone of the e-mail box. her blackberry, where's her address book? these things don't die. you cannot delete cyberspace. it's very difficult to do. it may not be on the server or hard drive, but these e-mails exist somewhere. they have to because they were sent. they were received. they were forwarded. they were replied to. you would have to delete everything everywhere. it's like deleting something out of a google search. it's very tough to do. >> one of the sworn declarations was from an irs tech guy who took out the hard drive, opened up the hard drive and saw what he described as scoring. concentric scoring i think was the term he used which is

basically a circular gouge that was made on the platter, the disk on which the information is stored. that's fairly common, is it not? when your hard drive crashes, that's typically what happens, right? >> and if you've ever been a victim of that, you just hear that grinding, you know something has gone wrong. but the real question on one of the declarations, and one of the reasons for the judge's order, somebody said they saw a scratch. a scratch is not scoring. if you saw a scratch on a hard drive, my question is, where did that come from? because that hard drive is put inside the laptop, shipped to them, and nobody should be inside messing with the hard drive unless it gets pulled out and sent. now, the one technician said he didn't see any apparent damage, but then we have somebody saying that they saw a scratch. i want to know who touched it i with it prior to sending it to the second tech. >> it's not just lerner's hard drive we're talking about here. in roughly the same time frame, there were six other hard drives that crashed. now, we know that there are

thousands of laptop computers at the irs. does this look suspicious to you in any way? >> hey. it's no longer a coincidence to me. i've said this before and i'll stick by it, it's a conspiracy because when you have that targeting letter that comes up, you don't just have lerner's hard drive go down. you have another six others attached to this. when we talked before, it's one thing to have an engine go out on a plane. that happens. but rarely to have six planes in a row to have that happen to, it doesn't pass the sniff tense and proverbial common sense. >> is judge sullivan aware of this what you call a conspiracy, so many hard drives crashed at roughly at the same time? do you plan to bring it up to him? >> yes, we do. we'll be meeting with the magistrate on august 25th, and bring it up then and with judge sullivan as well. as we have already done, but we'll continue to do so. >> ramona and morgan, thank you very much. the shooting of michael brown a week ago has sparked violent protests and nationwide reaction. our political panel weighs in

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all eyes are on frergsergus missouri, where police and protesters keep clashing. just in this afternoon, attorney general eric holder ordered a federal autopsy. and fox got independent confirmation that the government did not want the video of michael brown's robbery to go public. to talk about that and other topics, let's bring in our panel now. liz chatterton is the president of the chatterton group. and jim pinkerton is a fox news contributor. thanks for coming in, guys. >> good to see you. >> the justice department said it didn't want to release this video of a strong-armed robbery for fear it would inflame intentions. there's an alternative view that the release of such video might diminish tensions. what is your take? >> or it might make people think

the cops were justified. in addition to that, there's a video of two eyewitnesses of the shooting saying that michael brown charged the cops. this is not the narrative that media had been pushing all week about how this was an innocent young man, college student and so on. in fact, it's a videotape that's to be believed, and it's hard to argue with the videotape, more like a thug, and it undercuts the entire justice department effort to portray the cops as the bad guys, which i think we're seeing the most anti-police justice department since ramsey clark back in the 1960s. and this hurts their case. >> liz? >> well, i think the most important thing right now in ferguson is to take everything down about 100 notches. everyone in this situation, the police, the protesters, even the media need to find a way to calm the community and find peace, orr we're going to have more civilians and police officers

injured and god forbid killed. what's happening in ferguson right now is because it's been certainly months if not years of unrest that has been simmering, and now it has blown up. if they had released that video, i don't think it would have made it better. it would have made it worse. and what they have to do there right now is figure out how to calm the situation, make sure that no one else gets injured, and then let's find out what really happened. but in the next 24 to 48 hours, the situation has to calm down, or there's going to be more violence and regretfully more injuries. >> but does it help when jesse jackson and al sharpton parachute in to be part of the protests? >> no. in fact, it does not. i would agree with you. truthfully, everyone involved in this situation right now is in the wrong, everyone. i think the civilians, the protesters are in the wrong. i think the officers are in the wrong. i think to a certain extent the justice department, the fbi are in the wrong. i think the media is even in the wrong. i think you don't get to a situation like this where one person is right and everyone else is wrong. everyone's wrong. and everyone in my opinion needs

to stand down and let the situation calm down. and yes, i think jesse jackson and reverend sharpton need to leave town. and there needs to be community-based conversation about ending this. >> -- in many impoverished african-american countries, there is a deep suspicion of authority figures, a deep suspicion of police. a suspicion which many contend has been exacerbated by this quote, unquote, militarizatiomi. they show up with camos on, tear gas, automatic weapons. does this help or hurt? >> well, you know, it seems strange to see a tank rolling down the streets like this. however, when you realize, for example, that brian terry, the law enforcement officer on the border patrol was killed with an ak-47, when you learn about the increasing prevalence of heavy weapons on the side of criminals, it's hard to argue with the police being part of an arms race.

they have no choice. if people are throwing molotov cocktails at you, you don't want to be standing there in a shirt and hat. you want body armor. >> what's your take on that, liz? >> i actually would agree completely in that if someone is going to throw bombs at you or shoot at you because god knows guns are incredibly prevalent, if someone is going to be shooting at you, you want to be able to shoot back. and we certainly want our police officials, no matter where they are in america, to be adequately protected and armed. and if they're in these communities, any community across america, and they're being attacked this way and they're being shot at, then they have to be able to protect themselves. >> when we come back, the panel looks at felony charges against texas governor rick perry and how he's fighting back. (vo) friday night has always been all fun and games, here at the harrison household. but one dark, stormy evening... she needed a good meal and a good family. so we gave her purina cat chow complete. it's great because it has the four cornerstones of nutrition.

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. this morning on fox news sunday texas governor rick perry reacted to the charges filed against him late last week. >> i very publicly said that as long as that individual is going to be running that agency i had lost confidence in her, the public had lost confidence in her and i did what every governor has done for decades, which is make a decision on

whether or not it was in the proper use of state money to go to that agency and i vetoed it. >> we're back with the panel now. reasonable action by the travis county grand jury or sleazy texas politics? >> well, i'm a native texasan so in full disclosure any grand jury indictment has do be taken seriously. that means a panel of average texas citizens not political professionals, not high powerful people actual texas citizens sat down in a room, read all the evidence and said yeah that guy might be guilty. any indictment has to be taken seriously. this was an indictment on the abuse of official capacity. that's a first degree felony charge that can carry from five to 99 years in prison. that's a serious charge and should be taken seriously. >> you want to talk about abuse let's talk about the travis county d. a.

travis county is one little blue dot in a red state. in the '90s they indicted kay bailey hutchison and indicted tom delay. they are criticizing partisan differences. rosemary lehmberg is a convicted drunk driver. she was driving triple the alcohol level. >> there's a video of her arrest and detainment in jail. >> the idea she could then -- look there's a cliche about grand jury. you can indict a ham sandwich. that's what they did to rick perry. >> in travis county all ham sandwiches are republican. >> all ham sandwiches are in jail. >> let's take a look what greg mcdonald said.

he was involved in filing the suit initially. i can report what he said. he said we believe he has the right to veto. it was his decision to veto. it was about the intimidation before the we, to about the use of the veto as coercion. but that's what a veto is all about. anybody who uses a veto is going to threaten to use the veto as a political tool. >> yes and no. what happened here yes, the popularly elected travis county district attorney rightfully elected was charged and she pled guilt i to dui, served 45 days in jail. she served her sentence. the governor had no power to release her from her duties. that's abuse of official capacity. that's a serious charge. >> sounds like politics to me. there's phrase they are using injustice circles

criminalization of political differences. it's ironic the democrats are coming after perry the moment he's standing up for border security and rule of law. >> we're out of time. will the democrats get out of this which is a mugshot of the governor? >> yes. >> also get an acquittal and another black eye for rosemary lehmberg. turning to the business news now. the biggest financial titans in the world are gathering this week in jackson hole, wyoming at the annual meeting of the top central bankers and economist and janet yellen will make her first appearance on friday. the catholic church has gone to the dogs. check out the special ceremony for dogs and dog lovers. that's coming up next. ♪ i know all dogs go to

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