the family members of michael brown also on the ground there. they stepped up to the microphone but didn't actually speak during this service and rally. leslie mcfadden and michael brown sr. stepping up but not actually speaking out loud. we did hear from captain ron johnson who, of course, has been credited with bringing such peace and communication in some instances back to this really a fragile community that's still dealing with the circumstances of everything surrounding the death of michael brown. and this rally continues. more news as the night falls, as things happen there in ferguson. we're, of course, monitoring developments and will bring you the latest news on all of that. we'll take you now to "media buzz." >> let's move. let's move. let's move this way. here's the door. this way or this way. >> is the press helping to inflame another racially charged controversy? and how has the release of that shoplifting video changed the media narrative? and "atlantic monthly" interview with hillary clinton

prompts the pundits to pile on and this new form of diplomacy. >> are you going to hug it out with the president? >> absolutely. >> hillary looks like a grown-up neocon republican. she's treating obama like a drunk on a subway. she's quickly moving away. >> in an effort to appear more authentic, she stepped in it, and she went a step too far. >> so is this a real schism between the president and his former secretary of state, or are the media embracing a phony narrative here? the sad death of robin williams prompts a tidal wave of media mourning. blunt talk about depression and the inevitable excesses. is the coverage cathartic or just celebrity exploitation? plus, nbc finally makes it official, ump didding david gregory and handing "meet the press "toy chuck todd. can he revive the battered franchise? i'm howard kurtz, and this is "media buzz." the looting and violence

that erupted in ferguson, missouri, early this morning with one person shot and seven arrested in confrontations with police came too late for the sunday morning papers. but they added to the sense of chaos that kicked into a higher gear on friday when the troubling tale of just why a missouri officer shot and killed michael brown took a bizarre turn. ferguson police released a videotape showing the teenager, michael brown, intimidating a convenience store clerk and making off with some cigars. now, this ran in an endless loop on cable news, but it wasn't until a press conference hours later that reporters got the police chief to admit this had nothing to do with the fatal shooting. >> you're telling us that when the officer stopped michael brown the first time, he was not aware brown was the suspect in a robbery? >> no, he didn't. he was walking -- >> it had nothing to do with the stop? >> it had nothing to do with the stop. >> why did you release the video? >> at this point -- at this point, why did you stop miking

brown? >> because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic. >> joining us, lauren ashburn, fox news contributor. jim garrity, contributing editor at "national review." and joe trippi, fox news contributor and a democratic strategist. how has this video of the shoplifting which i've now seen about 10,000 times, how has it changed the story line of this tragedy? >> it is utterly transformed the way we take a look at this, the way analysts do, the way reporters do, and the way the public sees it. you know the old cliche, a picture is worth a thousand words. it doesn't matter what the police are saying that it didn't have anything to do with it. what they're saying is the images are saying yeah, it did. >> does it matter what the reporters and the anchors are saying? and should cable news be playing this over and over and over again like wallpaper despite the fact that there is no dispute, that this robbery was not connected to the shooting? >> absolutely not. i mean, this is something of the

media going overboard. and the police shouldn't have released it either, howie. even the fbi said don't do this. it will cause trouble. >> jim, how is it that it took skeptical reporters at that press conference we just saw, and this was hours after this thing had already been playing on cable news to get the police chief to acknowledge that this is a shoplifting case and that the officer who shot michael brown didn't even know that the guy was a suspect? >> yeah, from the comments during that press conference, you could get the feeling that the police chief was not at the top of his game. >> diplomatic. >> a bit of a panic. >> state department. >> and yet perhaps there's a little bit of, you know, crazy like a fox thing because for several hours, putting this out there, this goes from a story of a bad cop shooting this poor kid. wait a minute, maybe it's not such a poor kid. presuming it's him in the video. some people are expressing skeptici skepticism. >> the family's team is not denying this at this point. >> all of a sudden he's not this kid anymore, this gentle giant,

all of a sudden he's a thug. except oh, the cop didn't know about it. a couple hours later. but by that point if you're watching, it hasn't sunk in yet. >> but that suggests to me that the immediate wmedia, and of cod to know more about this 18-year-old who is now dead. since the media were used. >> this is clearly a case of this whole episode shows how the media is both manipulated and has to be there. they're manipulated from the videos released, and they use it. i mean, it's great video, as lauren points out. it's going to get repeated over and over again. the police knew that. the chief knew that. did it anyway, on purpose, despite the fbi, justice department saying don't do this. and then, the requirement, the requirement of the media being there, putting the police chief in that position a few hours later and constantly grilling him until he fessed up and said it had nothing to do with the reason they were stopped. >> and that's good that there were boots on the ground in order to do that and to get to

the truth. >> chief tom jackson said -- claimed that he had to release this video because there have been foi requests from several media organizations. michael brown's family called it character assassination. talk a little bit about how the images of this story, because the pictures have been so powerful, have changed over the last week in the aftermath of the killing? >> in the very beginning, you see the victim lying on the ground. he was there for several hours. you hear that the police shot him seven times, that he had his hand up in the air. you have social media going crazy saying i just watched the police shoot this guy as he was running away, basically. >> some people might. enormous sympathy. >> of course. and then the robbery video surfaced. and then just friday and early this morning, 4:00 in the morning, there were people who were anti-cure few protesters coming out, and it starts to change the way the coverage is shaped. because now you're thinking gosh, these police have to deal with these very violent crowds. >> think about how cable news is

always known as this voracious beast and it's hungry for new pictures all the time. think about how often we've watched a blank podium or empty there waiting for a press conference to start. and everyone's kind of on the edge of their seat saying what's going to happen? any news or video that comes out, whether it's protesters, tear gas canisters flying around. in some ways this is a fantastic story for cable news because each day something new happens. images are violent and vivid. on the other hand, you have to wonder are these things getting worse because the cameras are there? there's an element of performance. >> also the cameras are looking for new characters. hero -- kind of heroic ron johnson. we want to bring you back now to ferguson, missouri, where a rally and a church service has been ongoing. we see now the son of martin luther king speaking. >> let me thank god for bringing

us all safely here today. and as st. louis born dick gregory often says, i hope and pray that our returns home will be equally as safe. bishop jones, to all the members of this community, ferguson and st. louis county, those from st. louis and those of us who are from around the country, i first must say to sister leslie and brother michael that the world is praying for you. not just us here but the whole world has prayed and is praying for you.

i don't know that anyone unless one is a parent can understand what a parent goes through when a child moves to another level as it relates to something called finality. i remember my father preaching a sermon one time about death. and he talked about his own funeral. and i'm not going to talk about that today, but it just popped in my mind because i was 10 years old. when my dad was gunned down. i was 12, 11 when my uncle mysteriously drowned. i was 15 when my grandmother was ungoed down in the church while praying the lord's prayer.

so while i don't understand losing a child, i understand losing a loved one. and all of us should understand losing a loved one. the stage has been set. and today and forever people will be talking about michael brown. that is for sure. but what this community chooses to do, i mean, rev has already talked about jobs and opportunity. this is the time for america to create opportunities in communities all across this county and this country. there is no shortage of resources. there's just a shortage -- before now, maybe there was a shortage of a will. you see, when we think about

this thing and we think about victims. victor hugo used to say that wherever there's darkness, crimes will occur, but the guilty one is not merely he who created the crime but those who created the darkness. i hope you understand that what i'm saying is that when we create the climate, when we create training and opportunities, jobs for people across america, much of what we see will go away. that's only one thing. the second thing is our police department. need human relations, sensitivity and diversity training. when you understand how to interact because every ethnic group is different.

and every ethnic group has made a contribution to this nation. now, finally, i want to say, just before i go to my seat because i wanted to be here and will be back again and again. why? because my dad used to say that our destinies are sort of tied together. i can't be what i ought to be and tell you what you ought to be, you can't be what you ought to be until i'm what i ought to be because our destinies truly are tied together. more and more people will be coming to st. louis. and the leadership here has encouraged not just justice but justice perhaps won't come unless there is an independent

prosecutor. this is not martin king. this is what the community is saying. and the prosecutor has demonstrated bias. therefore, he should recuse himself. if he is found, but that only happens when you -- one of the things you do is sign a petition that's online that others will be talking about. because we and as i say america is watching and the world. and as rev said, people are really embarrassed because we go all over the world promoting democracy and fairness. at least that's what we're saying. and yet we're not even creating

democracy in our own communities. because our own -- many, not all, but some police departments are not conducting themselves in the way that they should. so let me rush to tell you do not get any ways tired. why? because we've come much too far from where we started. you see, no one ever told any of us that our roads would be easy. but i know our god, our god, our god did not bring any of us this far to leave us. justice can and will come. but st. louis county, ferguson, you must continue to stand and be heard. god bless you.

>> martin luther king iii. we have -- >> we've just been listening to the son of martin luther king jr., martin luther king iii speaking there at this rally, this church service, really, in ferguson, missouri, talking about the community and steps moving forward. he said today and forever, people will be talking about michael brown. michael brown, of course, the teenager who was killed by a police officer in ferguson, missouri, a little more than a week ago. and we've seen throughout the days that have followed considerable strife in that community as the community works towards pulling together and healing, and people are still calling for information as the investigation continues. also, martin luther king iii saying that justice perhaps won't come until there is an independent prosecutor. he has called for the prosecutor in the case to step down. and there are a lot of people there in that community that

continue to call for answers. and we continue to follow the story. for now, back to "media buzz." we're back talking about the hillary hug hype. and jim garrity, before the break, you said that was a rather crazy phrase, in your view. used by hillary's spokesmen. i presume she ap why exactly, is it because it's something a male candidate would say? >> no, i think the idea that there's some sort of special personal relationship between the president and secretary of state, and it matters whether they -- but it really doesn't. colin powell and george w. bush didn't always get along. >> the camera has to go to the look on lauren's face. >> what are you saying, that men can't talk about hugging? i mean, john boehner cries, for goodness sake. i'm so tired -- >> i'm not saying it.

>> i am just so tired. let's just stop making hillary all of this about her being a woman. >> but if it had been john kerry, would we be talking about hugs? we'd be talking about windsurfing. >> it was a 2006 phrase. that's more egregious than anything. >> everybody is piling on with hillary miscalculating, she didn't handle it right, she handled it fine. isn't she just saying what she thinks? or do candidates not do that? >> i think she was saying what she thinks, but it was calculated. she knew exactly what she was doing. and both things are probably true. >> right. so then you would say but then she looked bad because she walked it bad. she called the president. >> there's that aspect. and then she will call back and apologize. >> but the second thing is, if she's saying what she really thinks now, which for the past four years she hasn't been. this is a big deal.

basically she thinks the entire time we're pursuing the wrong strategy in syria, but she's going to salute. 170,000 people dead later. >> in fairness, it has been reported that she was more hawkish within the administration on syria, and she did write about this in her book. what i want to know is where is the video of the alleged hug? why is it being hidden from the press? but a semi-serious question for you. after "the atlantic" interview was published, there was a lot of sniping particularly in the newspapers between unnamed hillary clinton advisers and unnamed white house allies and officials except for david axelrod who took a swipe at hillary on twitter. should the media be reporting this background spitballing? >> every media organization will say here's our anonymous sources policy. we will not use anonymous sources to disparage anyone. and if you ask any media executive, that's what they stand by. in practice, it's completely different. that is not what happened. and they're used because it's political theater.

>> media love to cover food fight between two people in the same party, particularly when one of them is the president of the united states and the other one is running for president. >> if that involves people granting ananonymity, so be it? >> in that situation, particularly in a presidential campaign, it just gets rampant. >> in a presidential campaign. let me just close by saying we have such a heavy news item that we only have time to talk about the indictment of rick perry. but what's striking about that, the texas governor not exactly hiding at a news conference yesterday. he was on fox news sunday this morning is that i think even many liberal-leaning commentators and analysts are saying this seems like a pretty filmsy indictment in which the governor was just practicing politics by using his veto power to force out an investigator who was locked up on a pretty bad drunk driving charge. >> when we start going after

governors because we disagree with a veto so he's going to get indicted, i mean, he has the legislative -- the authority in the constitution to veto this stuff. i just think -- when i look at this grand jury indictment, and it just doesn't make any sense to me other than it's political -- try to embarrass him politically as he gets ared to run for president. >> and joe is a democrat. >> joe is a big democrat. >> friends don't let friends drink and drive and remain in prosecutors' office. >> that's a good line. >> i still think jim needs a hug. jim garrity and joe trippi, thanks very much for joining us. ahead, is chuck todd the man to fix nbc's debacle over "meet the press"? up next, two reporters arrested in ferguson. how much did that change the tone of the coverage? a body at rest tends to stay at rest...

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the situation in ferguson, missouri, spun so out of control this week that president obama felt compelled to speak up on behalf of journalists trying to do their jobs as protesters filled the street after the fatal police shooting of michael brown. an al jazeera crew said officers fired tear gas at them, and they were setting up a live shot and carried off their camera equipment. and two reporters, one for "the washington post," the other for "the huffington post," were arrested at a mcdonald's. the beginning of the confrontation captured on video by "the washington post's" wes lowry. >> let's go. you can move your car if your car's out here. let's go. >> it is. >> let's go. let's go. let's go. here's the door over here. let's go. >> i've got an armed officer with what can only be described as an assault weapon, gesturing his weapon at me. and so i couldn't help but have some of my attention focused on this large gun in front of me. that's when they threw me up

against the soda machine. they put me in handcuffs or in plastic restraints, all the while yelling at me "stop resisting, stop resisting" as i was yelling at them, "i'm not resisting." >> joining me, joe concha and kelly goff, special correspondent for theroof.com and columnist for "the daily beast." joe, let's start with the arrest of the two reporters in that mcdonald's. those charges were totally trumped up, right? >> howie, if you watch that tape in full, on 23 separate occasions, that occasion asks wes lowry and "the huffington post" reporter to move. how do wes and ryan know what's going on outside in the street where they could resist that order? and before that video was shot also, wes lowrie was asked for identification for which he refused. this was clearly an action to provoke that officer. >> i got you there. they didn't resist arrest. they were packing up their computer equipment, which was plugged in. >> really. >> secondly -- secondly, i'm sure you don't condone slamming reporters' heads into glass door and soda machines.

and thirdly, the charges were so filmsy that the police chief immediately dropped them. >> correct. well, no, they shouldn't have been arrested. i'm not advocating that. how do you pack up equipment and batteries when you're holding a camera and pointing it at somebody? i'm having trouble grabbing my laptop and all of my equipment when i do that. here's how you know this was all about wes lowrie expanding his television career. right after he was released from custody, it was all about tweeting out, calling them out, going on national television, went on cnn, msnbc after that, fox as well. this was a media tour, howie, that was only rivaled by hillary clinton's all in the effort to give wes lowrie's byline a microphone in a future career and nothing more. >> i think that's unfair. he's a good, solid reporter. he was dell yunled with requests on tv including me. he only did a few of those. i don't think this is as self-promotional as you do. let's agree to disagree so i can turn to kelly. were those arrested and the tear

gassing of the al jazeera and seizing of equipment, did that become a turning point in the coverage? >> absolutely. with all due respect to joe, i'd hate to hear the criticism he would have doled out 50 or 60 years ago to reporters who may have been a little slow to pack up their gear when they were covering another crisis which was known as the civil rights movement. >> a little slow. >> yeah. so this idea that reporters shouldn't be documenting the behavior of people in authority when people in authority are part of a story and their behavior has been questioned enough whether reporters are there, to criticize them is a little odd. they would have not been doing their jobs not to record. not to be funny, but just again drawing the comparison, there are a lot of reporters who were assaulted, some almost murdered during the civil rights movement. i only wish they had twitter and camera phones back then. it's a little bizarre. >> the images of the riot gear and the armored personnel carriers and the tear gas, i

mean, in some ways, was that reminiscent of birmingham in 1963? purely from the kind of perceptions that it had on the public? >> i don't know if anyone could watch the footage of what was done to those al jazeera reporters and not draw parallels. and i think this idea that once you see that footage, i don't see why anyone would not record their interactions with police. if you're a citizen or if you are a member of the press. and i also think that not only do you and i seem to disagree, but let's not forget the letter that was signed by 40 major news outlets decrying this atrocious behavior of the police. >> did the sheer volume of the coverage here hour after hour, day after day, the national media descended on ferguson to do their jobs, is that exacerbated what is an undeniable tragedy no matter who's at fault, and that is the killing of an unarmed 18-year-old? >> absolutely, howie. there's abc, cbs, cnn, fox and twitter. and there's already been over 7

million tweets that have mentioned ferguson. so yeah, that certainly pours some gas on the fire. then you have activists that have 6:00 p.m. shows on another network going down there and fueling the flames as well. >> you're referring to al sharpton. >> i am, exactly. one second. the bottom line is that it's now a cottage industry when a white cop shoots a black kid or we saw with trayvon martin last year, cnn, hln quadrupled their ratings because of these events and isis and gaza is happening overseas. this is domestic. the cheap and easy narrative, and that's why we've seen the coverage go where it has. >> you call it a cottage industry. those of us with african-americans in our family call it a crisis. it must be nice to have an experience where you dismiss it. >> you don't get to do that to me, kelly. you're calling me a race ois national television? >> she's not at all, joe. >> that's kind of the inference that i'm being insensitive. >> i didn't call you a racist. you're the one who used that word, joe. howie, i think that this idea

that the coverage has inflamed things, i'm drawing the parallel from 60 years ago. we all know there was behavior that changed 60 years ago because people realized that the images were filtering out to the rest of the country and the south did not like how it was being portrayed. i think the same thing has happened here in ferguson. they ran a headline about how you saw this 180, the police actually start mamping with the protesters and engaging them in a positive way. i do not think that would have happened if there hadn't been all those images of them in riot gear and they knew how that was reflecting on their town. >> what fwiter has done in a positive manner and i'm sorry if i overreacted. perhaps i did. at least now the police can't control the narrative in terms of everything that's coming out. twitter, as i said, 7 million. there are positives of social media as far as positives. i don't want to say that and i apologize to kelly for overreacting. >> thank you, joe. >> you two can go hug it out. >> there will be video of that, by the way, unlike some other people. >> i do think that we still don't know what the police version is of exactly what happened. a lot of the coverage up until now had been one-sided because

we haven't had access to the other side. kelly goff, joe concha, thanks very much for stopping by. ahead on "media buzz," when we come back, how about some of the reporting on robin williams' suicide? was it distasteful or just wrong? and the ugliness that drove his daughter off twitter. and later, can chuck todd pull "meet the press" out of its tailspin? press" out of its tailspin. ♪ defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. easily absorbed calcium plus d. beauty is bone deep.

this is a fox news alert. words of inspiration replacing tear gas and other violence as more than 1,000 people have now gathered greater grace church in ferguson, missouri. it's still going on at this time. the state police captain who's in charge of trying to restore calm in that city spoke a short time ago. a little bit of that now. he apologized to the family of michael brown. >> and my heart goes out to you,

and i say that i'm sorry. >> and speakers have continued in the pulpit this afternoon in that church. there's a new push to get the facts on the death of michael brown. attorney general eric holder has ordered a federal autopsy in the case. also now to iraq. now american air spiir strikes the mosul dam. the concern the group isis might try to flood nearby cities. we're on that story and all the big news tonight, "fox report." just about everyone seemed to love robin williams for his comic brilliance and acting intensity. so the suicide of the 63-year-old entertainer who had spoken openly about battling depression and alcoholism came as a shock. every newspaper, website and network weighed in. and the cable networks were virtually wall to wall. >> actor and comedian robin williams has died. the marin county sheriff's office confirmed he was found dead in his house. >> robin williams, what we're

learning about his sudden and shocking death. the investigation into his apparent suicide as tributes pour in. >> robin williams was often at his best just playing himself. always lightning fast. >> breaking tonight, what we've now learned about the final hours of robin williams' life. >> joining us now is david, media critic for "the baltimore sun." abc apologized for running streaming video of williams' house. cbs had had the gall to interview somebody who had been in aa with robin williams. not a pretty picture. >> outrageous. howie, those kinds of excesses totally need to be denounced. i mean, there's no excuse for them. these are professional broadcasters doing really stupid stuff. what do you say on the air after

someone's dead and call them a coward for? what is shep smith thinking? he's a veteran anchor. why do you show a picture of his house? howie, it's so simple in some ways, the journalism that you and i were socialized to, if cable news just practiced that, which what do we know to be true, let's him it to that, they'd have been fine. >> and then you have social media. quitting instagram, people being incredibly crude. >> what do you say about that? i mean, we know that that's the way social media is. but what is it in the culture that makes people want to do that in the wake of something like this? look, the minute it happened, i happened to be walking on a newsroom, and they said, you know, robin williams is dead. do you want to write about it? i said this is going to stop the culture. this guy was that important. >> you know, there were hours and hours and hours and no other story virtually on television. >> right, right. >> it wasn't the most important story in the world, but i didn't

have a problem with all the coverage. did you? >> i had no problem whatsoever. i thought it was important. i think as our culture, i think the people who run the media tend to minimize the importance of cultural figures like robin williams to our emotional, to our psychological and to our spiritual life. this guy touched the culture in deep ways. and you know what was missing in all of this coverage, though, howie that got high ratings for just about everybody. what was missing were analysts who told people why he was special. it's not enough to say oh, he's a genius, a force of nature. remember when mike wallace died and you and i were live on another channel? we went right to why. >> the speculation was proven to be -- because then several days later, robin williams' wife said he was suffering from parkinson's disease which may or may not have played a role. i also found a focus on depression even though i hate when we do the diseases of celebrities. a lot of journalists talked about their own battles with

depression. the other thing, in "time" what got overshadowed was the death of lauren bacall. she was a big star in her heyday, but that was a long time ago. >> that's just the way the culture works. and don't forget, robin williams spoke for generations in different media. i'm surprised how many people in their 20s came up to me the next day and wanted to talk about him. >> talk about the coverage of ferguson, missouri, and what has struck you about the television presence there. >> you know, some people say we're not equipped to talk about issues like depression and mental health. race. we are awful when it comes to race. you know, i think, if you asked me what single event troubles you most, it was the police shooting rubber bullets and tear gas canisters which you reported at al jazeera and the other sorts of things to the press. but, you know, showing the officer's house, here we go again with all these excesses. and howie, this is just basic

journalism that we knew 20 years ago and forgot, especially in cable news when we're on the story. it's tough when you're out there and it's going and it's going and it's going, but you have to be better than they are right now. especially when it involves race. >> yeah. and the death of a young man. but it does get ratings. don't go away. up next, nbc finally dumping david gregory as they're putting into slow-motion torture, but it chuck todd the right choice for "meet the press"? yeah... with nfl mobile on verizon. yes! get in there! go, go, go, go, yes! let's go, drew. the "not-so-good more" would be them always watching you. go for it, paul! get open! come on, paul! let's go! hustle! what is that, chamomile tea?! uh, lattes. you wanna take a nap?! get the "good more" with nfl mobile, free with the more everything plan. exclusively from verizon.

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ooh and the dodge likes it. don't you dart? gets your filthy voice off her jake! this week the network finally made it official, gregory is out as moderator of "meet the press" and being replaced by a man of many titles, nbc's political director, chief white house correspondent and msnbc morning host. >> this is a disaster for the publi president. essentially saying it's over. saying that he no longer has the ability to lead and solve problems. >> the treatment of david gregory was shabby. was it the right choice to dump him? >> it was absolutely. absolutely. howie, we talked about this earlier in the summer, i think. i felt he had a total lack of compassion compared to chuck todd's kind of passion. chuck todd, whether it's true or not, you have the feeling that

you have with mike allen of politico, that he knows everything that's happening in washington and cares about it that he's plugged in. >> not just in washington but 35 congressional districts. he's a political junkie. he's a former print guy. he ran the political hotline. so he's had to make a transition to television. in your view, then, smart choice? >> oh, absolutely for him. look, he's not the consultant's idea of a host which makes me love him, absolutely. first of all. >> that's interesting. exactly. he's not slick. he's not glib. he doesn't look that way. but here's what i believe. number one, i believe passion is more important on television than good looks and hair. >> okay. >> i happen to believe that. but secondly, this guy really, really can lift this show out of the sort of malaise that it's in right now. it's really been sad to see this great franchise fall into the kind of disrepair it is. so you need somebody with this

kind of energy to try to bring it back. >> insiders tell me that chuck todd has these challenges, making the transition from daily journalism to the daily cycle to a weekly show, doing more online and he's a very frequent tweeter and making the show more relevant, which is another way of saying it's got to matter again. >> well, one thing about this, i think people don't understand. sunday morning television, people want experience. you know, everybody in tv wants young, young, young. bob schieffer's number one for a reason, because he gives you the sense that he can synthesize and he has experience. i think you have that. now, one problem with this transition. i think nbc has bigger problems. i think the production of that show has really suffered. i wrote about a really bad mistake -- >> let me jump in. some people think he's liberal because he's on msnbc, but he regularly on his cable show has republican conservatives on. but is he a strong enough interviewer? >> that's a good question. i think he can grow into the tim

russert role. i think if anybody at that network can grow into it, tim russert. but also senior management. they've really got a screwed up opposition over at nbc news. how long will they stay with him if he doesn't get ratings? will they bring in consultants? will they bring in a psychiatrist to talk to him like they did david gregory and call it a grand consultant? >> let us hope not. you saved me the cheap shot. thanks for stopping by. after the break, acting as an advocate for michael brown. our video verdict is straight ahead. r video verdict is straig ahead. wondering what that is?

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time now for our video verdict where we rate tv clips based on whether they're good journalism and good television. after the shooting of their son, michael brown's parents gave their first interview to al sharpton. >> their second sit-down was on cnn where don lemon conducted an interview that was highly sympathetic and highly unusual. >> how are you dealing with this right now? >> the best that i can. >> your shirt says no justice. why are you wearing the shirt? >> because my son don't have justi justice. >> and we don't have no peace. he has no justice. we won't get no peace. >> and to you, mom, i don't even know what to say to you except that every mother in this country, in this world is

rooting for you, and so you stay strong. you have the entire world behind you. and if you ever -- either of you -- need anything, you know how to get in touch with me personally. >> that was cringe worthy in my opinion. i feel like he crossed a huge line. it was so personal. >> personal in a sense in that he was openly siding with the family and, look, let's make clear, these people just suffered an unimaginable -- >> i get it. >> of course he's going to do a sympathetic view. i have no problem with it. >> there is a way to be compassionate without crossing the line. the last time i checked, don lemon was an anchor. >> he doesn't know what happened. we still don't know the details of the shooting. by saying, you come to me if you need anything, he was acting as an advocate. what is your score? >> 2. >> pretty moving. i give it a 3. >> it wasn't that moving. all right. the wome on fox's outnumbered seemed a bit taken aback the other day when one lucky guy weighed in on michelle obama.

>> dr. keith ablow, a psychiatrist and fox news contributor, isn't a fan of the first lady and he took a swipe at her looks. >> we don't need the federal government applying, projecting these standards upon us, and michelle obama is so -- the duchess when she speaks about -- she is. by the way -- >> she needs to drop a few. >> oh! you did not -- >> really? >> the worst thing a guy can do is talk about a woman's weight. and he should know that. >> you're saying i shouldn't mention that time you kept going back to the buffet? >> exactly right. get out of here. i give it a 3. >> you're giving it a 3? look. it was a low blow. keith ablow was trying to be entertaining, trying to be provocati provocative. >> the only thing he should say about a woman when they ask how do i look is hold up the pinkie like this and say you look this

thin. you look this good. that's what my dad did. that's it. >> i'm giving it a 5. >> no way. a 3. >> still to come, your best tweets. a list of reasons that buzzfeed raised a whole lot of money and joe scarborough blames the reporters who got arrested in ferguson. h that busby just made a whole lot of money. and

and here are a few of your top tweets. are the media covering the unrest in ferguson fairly or enflaming the situation? considering police keep confl t contradicting their own statements, coverage is justified. the media have no idea if witnesses saw anything, often stories change when cops interview. the liberal mainstream media's performance this week is nothing but disgraceful. they should be ashamed. ashame of what, reporting of the

racist behavior of a corrupt police department. that's their job. >> not fair to say the entire police department is corrupt. >> or racist. >> you don't know every member of the police department. >> there has been some good reporting about the fact in many towns you have majority white police departments, majority black communities and that leads to friction. >> tension. >> buzzfeed just scored an eye popping $50 million investment in silicon valley. the site makes a solid reporting with lol stuff and cat pictures and lists. 13 awkward moments everyone has at the doctor's office. 18 things people who can't swim are tired of hearing. so how did buzzfeed's big payday get reported? the new york times. 50 million reasons buzzfeed wants to take its content far beyond. the guardian, 21 things you need to know about buzzfeed's success. i got one big reason this has to stop. becoming a tired cliche. and finally, after washington post reporter wes lowrie was arrested in mcdonald's in

ferguson, missouri, he was blamed and lowrie was quick to respond. >> when the cops tell you the 30th time, you know what that means, son? it means let's go. >> i invite joe scarborough to come down to ferguson and get out of 30 rock where he's sitting, sipping his starbucks smugly. >> it is too easy to criticize when you're sitting in a studio just like this and you aren't on the ground. you don't know what happened. you don't know what the conditions are. however, i do think that you need to be able to listen. you have to listen to the police, what they say, sometimes. >> scarborough is entitled to his opinion, absolutely. i lot of people think wes lowrie went too far. i would have gotten out because i would have been worried about getting arrested. actually arrested and charges so trumped up that they were thrown out shows what a difficult situation it was. i don't agree that he was doing this to promote himself.

that does it for this edition of "media buzz." check out our facebook page. we're back here next sunday, 11:00 and 5:00 eastern with the latest buzz. of original sunday guest host shannon bream. i'm shannon bream in for chris wallace. a state of emergency is declared and a curfew enforced in ferguson, missouri, as protests over the police shooting of that unarmed teenager continue. >> we're going to achieve justice. we must first have and maintain peace. >> we're all talking about the same concerns and the same passion. the frustration that is in your home is in my home. >> we'll have a live report and analysis from ferguson. then, texas governor rick perry hits the campaign trail in iowa, ramping up speculation about another presidential run.