thing. >> later, gator. see you back here in an hour. >> "outnumbered" starts right now. >> this is "outnumbered." today's hashtag one lucky guy, brian. he's outnumbered. >> i'm happy to be here. i remember alice on the brady bunch always looked up as if she was seeing the people. >> i get it now. >> we remind you of the brady bunch. >> that's true. and i lick to clean up, much like alice. >> you're very tidy. >> we're a little behind. we'll find out. >> we'll check in with your wife later. missouri governor sending in the national guard to restore peace in ferguson after what may have been the worst night of violence yet.

using tear gas after demonstrators protesting the fatal police shooting of a black teen again, looting stores. shooting at cops and even hurling molotov cocktails at officers. president obama back at the white house where in the next hour, attorney general eric holder will brief him on the unrest in missouri and minutes ago, the family of michael brown, the teen shot dead by an officer, holding a news conference on a private autopsy done at their request by famed pathologist dr. baden who said that brown was shot by an officer several times and probably not at close range because there was no gun powder on his body. >> six bullets struck and two may have reentered and three bullets were recovered at the first autopsy according to our report. there were the two head wounds and the bullet to the chest,

stayed in the body and were removed at the first autopsy. >> dr. baden emphasizing his autopsy is preliminary and that he still needs access to records and tests not available to him yet, including x-rays, the teen's clothing and the toxicology report. earlier on fox, missouri's lieutenant governor explaining why national guard troops have to be in ferguson now. >> we don't accomplish justice in the streets. we have to have peace and order there. the law abiding citizens of ferguson must be protected. the businesses, the homeowners, the people who are lawfully going about their business have to be protected. >> all right. so the news today, of course, the autopsy. we just heard from dr. michael baden. i want you to weigh on this first. you've been on radio the last three hours and you told me on friday that you've never seen the air waves light up like this. >> it was unbelievable.

it's just waiting in line to talk and get this out and everyone has differing opinions. we're getting a lot of calls from chicago and they're really upset and i go, guys, why are you upset at st. louis? you should be upset about the people shot in chicago. the press conference was revealing in a couple of ways. when he said he feels as though the head shots came second, so there were shots straight down the line in arms and the four were in the arms, so he doesn't want to get into toxicology, what he was on or what the order of things happened but it goes to show you that number one, could you figure out -- and i don't know this -- were the hands up? if the hands were up down the arms, it was a state line and i would be curious to see if that would rule out or actually rule in the fact that his hands were up when he was shot. >> the one thing that i garnered just listening to that press conference is that this does not support one specific series of events. we need to keep that in mind.

everyone has their different hype ot sis. >> they're saying that three are needed. f.b.i. is asking for the third autopsy. you know, at the end of the day, you know, the question becomes how do things eventually calm in the city of st. louis? and particularly in this suburb. i would be curious your take. dr. carson was calling these protestors opportunists and saying he wishes they would say what they want. the national guard was sent in. curfew not abided by. what is the next step? >> i feel so bad for the shop owners. i was out in los angeles in 1992 and what i heard is we're wrecking these stores because they don't hire us, because they're asian or korean and only hiring each other and we're taking this opportunity to say this has got to change. then i started hearing more of that. we're breaking this down because nothing changes in this area. why do these store owners -- i

haven't heard that like i did in los angeles. they were just trying to keep things going and especially the people that have the convenience store where michael brown might have been spotted and even the family thinks he was. so they've knocked that down twice. they've been looted twice. they're just trying to keep it going. why are you getting mad at him? he didn't even turn in these assailants. he didn't report the robbery. people in the store did. >> what about the national guard being brought in? seems to me the situation is pretty dire there. shouldn't the national guard maybe come in a little bit sooner? the police have tried to not get involved the first night, last sunday, they stayed away but it seems like they're just darned if they do, darned if they don't. >> there was a fear of alarming people because of the initial police response and the way that was received. i think they felt let's see what we can do on the ground by stepping back. that didn't work. i think the national guard does absolutely need to be there right now. what's been sad for me, it was very violent and on friday there seemed to be a calm and a sense

of a community coming together. now you have this violence again so the cycle is happening and i think that's why the national guard is in there, because they feel like they're losing grounds here and not making headway in terms of putting the violence to rest. >> and that ebb and flow you're central to what i really have observed about this. i was on air in the state of missouri for many years as a prime time anchor. and i know that state, the city is very, very well. it breaks my heart to see if happening. if you were unlawfully breaking a state imposed curfew, you deserve to be accused of a crime and go to jail. period. peaceful protesting is protected. this is not. so that's one thing. everybody is assured that they are innocent until proven guilty of a crime, including this police officer. we still don't know all the facts. these autopsies are telling. they bring up a lot of questions now that we really need answers for and i'm hoping as the rest of the country does that justice

will be served swiftly. i will say this. you know we saw a huge church event yesterday. more than 1,000 people crowded into the church and it was wonderful to see that peacefulness and then afterward, it got crazy four hours before the state imposed curfew so then i ask, had there been a 6:00 a.m. jobs fair today sh a lot of those people would have been getting ready to go to the job expo. black and white issue, i see it as a greenish u. these business owners being driven out, that is a travesty. that's what they need to stay. they need jobs in th community, something for these beautiful young people to be doing other than looting because that's not protesting. >> they're talking about how this situation in ferguson is embl emblematic and you're talking about a community devastated there. in three years the unemployment rate doubled throughout the recession. it's still well above the

national average. not just in st. louis but the state move month itself. this is a city where the people have been struggling and those that have jobs are earning far less. they're not keeping up with inflation. >> president obama is expected to be briefed by attorney general eric holder today, the justice department calling for its own autopsy on brown's body. you know what struck me over the weekend is the feds were pressuring the police department not to release that video, that video that everyone said was released in the store that was designed to, some people say, smear brown. wasn't it interesting the feds are pushing them not to release it while at the same time, lecturing them on transparency? i thought that was outrageous. >> the only thing i asked, the president wants to speak out today. i think that would be fine. he spoke out with a cambridge professor. >> do you think it's worse than nothing? >> it's an international story now. you've got the iranian leader talking about it, bbc leading with it. they're commenting on it.

so having said that, i would just like him to make his comments where he's not indicting the officer and not indicting the victim. just come out and tell us what you want to happen now. please don't get involved with the case. >> it also takes down the rhetoric of what's racial about the divide inside the city of ferguson. take that down, make it an american situation because the country is one thing, right? our hearts are breaking seeing a city torn apart. the world may see us how they want to see t. we don't live in the world. we live in america. >> there's questions about whether they can hold a fair investigation. eric holder met with the victim's family before he knew the facts. president obama spoke out at martha's vineyard. some say his tone was measured. i say he probably shouldn't weigh in too much. could it be too risky if he's perceived taking one side over the other? >> i think it depends how they get involved, much like the president in terms of sort of making -- you know, you have to

make a statement. i think you have to be present in this situation but i think what you say matters and i think when you look at the violence that's happening, i think it is about bringing the community and the country together and doing nothing to divide further. when you see this kind of division, when you see the protests, do everything in your power to make sure that you don't create a more divisive situation. that goes for holder, president obama, anyone in a leadership position that has the power to affect the situation. >> that's reactionary, though. it doesn't address the root of the problem, that was lack of leadership and lack of economic prosperity as well. >> agreed. >> we'll be watching it closely. even as u.s. air strikes help iraq retake a crucial dam from isis militants, president obama facing new criticism but from fellow democrats for how he's handling the crisis. why one member of congress is saying the mission is lost. plus texas governor rick perry comes out swinging at the indictment against him. the surprising support the republican is getting from high profile liberals and right after the show, catch more from the

couch on the web. join us for overtime. log on to fox news.com/outnumbered and click on the overtime tab. tweet us your questions and comments, tell us what you want us to talk about and we'll do it. >> your shoes. i want to talk about that. >> we can do that. >> i can't see them. just you...e great facial hair. when gray creeps in do you lose it all? not you. new touch of gray mustache and beard reduces gray without getting rid of it all in just 5 minutes. for the perfect gray look you want. new touch of gray mustache and beard. wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers, shopping online is as easy as it gets. carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. start shopping online from a list of top-rated providers. visit angieslist.com today. to help protect your eye health as you age... would you take it? well, there is. [ male announcer ] it's called ocuvite. a vitamin totally dedicated to your eyes,

from the eye care experts at bausch + lomb. as you age, eyes can lose vital nutrients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite has a unique formula not found in your multivitamin to help protect your eye health. now that's a pill worth taking. [ male announcer ] ocuvite. help protect your eye health.

[ mit can help yourocuvite. business save money. false. the truth is when you compare our fastest internet to the fastest dsl from the phone company, comcast business gives you more for your money. why pay more for less? call today for a low price on speeds up to 150mbps. and find out more about our two-year price guarantee. comcast business. built for business.

>> welcome back to "outnumbered." we're told u.s. airstrikes in iraq are ongoing. security forces regaining control of parts of country's largest dam from islamic militants but fighting is still underway for the rest of the complex. the dam is significant. it supplies water and electricity to much of the country's people and it's feared it could be used as a weapon. meantime, president obama is facing new criticism from democrats for how he's handling the crisis in iraq. >> ultimately we may have some boots on the ground there. not something that i want but do you know what? we have bad choices and the worst choice is to do nothing. >> adam and i both enlisted, joined the military after 9/11 because we heard our nation's leaders say after that attack that we would go and take out these islamic extremists wherever we are. we would fight against those

waging war against the united states. that stated mission after 9/11 has been lost. >> was that a democrat saying boots on the ground? >> i thought i hallucinated yesterday while watching the sunday shows. i had to look in my cereal and wonder was it milk i was drinking or something else? it's fascinating to see democrats talk about the president and how he should be more involved in a region of the world where we typically heard democrats say we should stay out of it, mind our own business and you see agreement between democrats and republicans. i think it's interesting that they were also discussing arming the free syrian army and had we done that, this would perhaps have stemmed what we now have as this outburst of isis and domination. sounds like hillary clinton, doesn't it? as the days and weeks progress and this gets bigger and bigger, i believe you'll see more democrats try and put distance between themselves and the president until he has a strategy on this. okay. good. we got the dam back. are we going to do this piece

male? small little air strikes designed to get, you know, certain targets? there's no broad strategy on this and i think the president would do a lot of good if he was back at the white house to make an announcement on iraq, something bigger than he's doing now and take credit for the humanitarian crisis. >> i figured out what was in your cereal. a couple of they were wrong. they don't want to be wrong again. >> maybe two cups. >> they don't want to be wrong again. the president made the decision not to leave any troops behind in iraq and not to even protect where we had people. so that was part of this initial mission, to protect our people and then it was humanitarian with people stuck on the mountain that didn't have water and food, their religious minorities and then we're going to arm the kurds and now it's become something else. i agree. what is the strategy? it may all be necessary but can you put it on paper? i wrote it down. it took me two paragraphs. >> there's iraq. okay. we shouldn't get involved with civil war. you just have to explain to people and the president, if he can do anything, it's influence

people and persuade them. you have to say -- let me just describe isis. they have the same objective, more organized and better financed so we have to go after them. this is not a matter of the political process getting underway and things working out in iraq. and the god good news is they had a new guy from the same party who seems to understand a little bit better what's going on and we have an ally there the kurdish fighters. and engel is the ranking member of the foreign relations committee and the one comes out and says i think this is lost already. what i think is important is the most sober apolitical people usually in congress are the ones in intelligence and foreign relations because they can't afford to be political. i don't think engel is kissing up to hillary. >> there's also a deep concern across the board this will wind up on our doorstep. >> that's reality. that's what they said. >> i think now democrats are waking up and i'm also curious

to see how this affects the democrats in the midterm elections, how it affects hillary clinton, how it affects the democrat base who typically doesn't want us involved but now you'll see democrats saying hold on a second. we need combat troops on the ground. will there be a lot of -- >> european union is also seeing the urgency and they're considering acting as well. >> yeah. >> so there's a little bit of a problem in that this isn't really about iraq anymore. isis should be looked at separately and there was a victory getting that dam back. >> then the question becomes, how did the democrats form their strategy heading into midterm elections if we're already seeing them oppose the president's strategy or lack of strategy as to your point? what is going to be the strategy? >> i think they'll never be on the same page, that party. that's for sure. but it is fascinating to see them call for more action in iraq. that's just astounding to me. i think there is a perception in the democratic party that's been in the republican party for

awhile and that is that this president is just managing every single news cycle. you saw on friday he said i fixed the genocide and then 9 on men were slaughtered. he has to try to stop spiking the football every time he's done tiny things. this is a long game fight against isis. >> that's what the generals keep saying. even the fight over the dam is not over yet. we'll turn to something happening in our country right now. texas governor perry is fighting back. governor says he stands by a decision to veto funding for a program in a texas county because of something the district attorney did there. perry sacramento indicted over that veto, accused of abusing his power. governor says that indictment is outrageous. here is what the d.a. did that got the governor's attention in the first place. she is rosemary lehmberg. she was convicted of drunk driving. there's sole ashs video of her that day. perry wanted her to resign over this. he refused. the governor said he was within

his right to block the cash from one of her programs. >> across the board you're seeing people weigh in and reflecting that this is way outside the nornl. this is not the way we settle political differences in this country. you don't do it with indictments. we settle our political differences at the ballot box. >> then perry went on to say, blasting president obama, saying he's responsible for a national erosion of the rule of law. >> i think there is some extraordinary concern in this country about the rule of law not being followed and too many things are being decided in arenas that shouldn't be decided from the standpoint of a government that's out of control. people want to get back to the rule of law and knowing with certainty that our border is going to be secure, that the i.r.s. is not going to come knocking down their door looking for things and the n.s.a. is not

listening to our phone conversations. >> is he saying this is politics? >> yes. and i think those are two separate issues. i think he's right on both issues. i think it's within his constitutional authority to veto funds. many democrats have come and supported him because this is so absurd and i think there is the obama administration doesn't respect the rule of law on all the issues but i think you have to keep those a little bit separate in terms of, you know, one is happening in texas right now, one is more of a local issue and one is more of a national issue. i think that there is the general theme across the country. >> talk to me, if you would, about the timing of this. you have a man who is dealing with illegal i memmigratioimmig something that members of congress probably don't want to talk about. particularly democrats. am i wrong? >> this is so obviously political. i think it has a chance of backfiring. when you feel like like dershowitz who came out and said i would never vote for rick perry but this is a criminalization of party

differences and david axelrod -- >> let's put that tweet up from david axelrod. that's a tweet from david axerrod. sketchy. >> i know it's going to backfire. there's no way this has any kind of standing and i do think people will see right through it. >> certainly has for rosemary lehmberg. probably 99% of the country don't b know who she is. you can't run the story without seeing the terrible video. >> inside the holding tank. >> like her hair in the mug shot. she gives nick nolte a run for his money. >> the republican party itself, he seems to be really riling folks up. aside from the allies that are david axelrod and the harvard

professor, you have ted cruz, his republican colleagues are speaking up, sticking up for him. this might actually turn out to be a very good thing for the governor. >> but he is facing four million years in prison. it's like 99 years in prison he's facing. >> we went from four million to 99. >> it was a plea bargain in my head. >> it could make him look like a hero. >> he could also convicted. >> how is it possible that they will press through with this if he's within the right of the state constitution? really, do you want to be on the side of david axelrod of pushing fwashd with a case that's sketchy at best? >> i think that's a good point. i think you were going toward -- >> did i not get there? >> perry 2016. he's a guy that suffered in debates back in the day. i think this is a tough cookie, someone who is not going to take nonsense, could mean a new

beginning for him in terms of if he wants to run for president. i like the attitude. i like the toughness. >> and he took off his cowboy boots. >> he has glasses. is that a requirement? >> someone talked to him. >> i think they have this obsession, turning texas blue. >> good luck with that. >> texas is such a strong -- my whole family lives in dallas so i speak with what i know. >> lake-effect at the economy there. it's thriving. >> strong example of what can happen in terms of economically, right? >> my gosh. the job growth. governor perry used this as an example to tout the job growth in his state. they've been welcome to businesses there. you see the technology move there. >> every time they say governor perry, they could say indicted. >> they could but he runs oppositional to the dialogue about the economy nationwide. >> if the whole indictment is a joke and democrats come out to

support you and it become anz issue whereby he's the guy that makes sense and everybody sides with him, the indictment doesn't hurt him. it helps him. did you hear that? >> we'll hear more as we go on. >> you and riley don't use my first name. >> i love being in the middle. >> how did i get in the middle? >> i just got yelled at. >> whatever. president obama is taking a vacation from a vacation. a vacation from his high end break on martha's vineyard. you have to leave that $19.50 hamburger behind. now he's meeting with his senior advisers in washington amid a lot of problems, very serious, here at home and abroad. as the president is dealing with shrinking popularity at the same time in the polls, will a brief return be enough to boost his image? stay close. we're the names you know, in the places you want to be. where you can explore super destinations and do everything under the sun. twelve brands.

more hotels than anyone else in the world. for a chance to win one million dollars, visit wyndhamrewards.com s charlie. his long day of doing it himself starts with back pain... and a choice. take 4 advil in a day or just 2 aleve for all day relief. honey, you did it! baby laughs!

>> welcome back. president obama is taking a break from his two-week vacation in martha's vineyard to return to washington for two days of meetings with officials. he's discussing the details in iraq and ferguson mornings month. images of the president golfing, partying and biking, americans are demanding answers but will a couple of days in washington help protect his image as a leader? what do you think, andrea? if he comes back, gets back to the nitty-gritty, is he restored? >> i think it depends. i think, yes. look. the president takes heat for take issing in martha's vineyard, takes heat when he comes back. i don't think it's a bad thing he came back at all. but it's wait and see. it all depends on what issues he hits on. >> what about when people say while he's there, he conducted meetings, did all the business he could have done while here.

>> on the four hours on the course, he's not talking to anybody. that's fine. president bush cleared brush, ronald reagan rode horses. this is a double crisis. we have two messages. if he was coming midway because of the number of crises and the level at which the seriousness of it, that's one thing. but we're ready for an announcement. aren't we ready for an executive order when it comes to immigration? there is something that's supposed to happen. it's not supposed to, in the middle of vacation, i'm coming back to do some paperwork with my daughter and then fly back to vacation, we expect there's some news to be made. >> as of now, what should the president be doing in the meetings with respect to ferguson, with iraq? what role should he be playing? >> sewing the facts and then be ready to give them to us in a way that shows some togetherness rather than division. i would say this. this was on the president's agenda. we knew about a two-day break last week.

that's not news. so how do you plan a reaction to a crisis when you don't even know where the crisis is going to be next week? it just seems if you really wanted to have an honest reaction, you would come back on the day that demanded your attention. >> to be fair, i want to bring up what you brought up last week. we were talking about the president and his vacation, you very accurately identified that he's taken less vacation days than the previous couple of presidents. that being said, there's a time for a vacation and there's not time for a vacation. >> timing. >> he's been away at a critical time in this nation's history where there's been critical decisions that have had to be made and he is talking to somebody on that golf course. he's like me, talking to the golf guys and he's asking for a hit down the fairway. but -- >> they never say yes. >> be nice. he has a great game. >> let me tell you something. i can hit 17 to 18 fairways. it's my putting, short game. let's talk another day.

>> higher power takes a day off. >> i think it was time to get to the white house. planned or not planned, it's time to get back there and get some business done. >> the case of the "new york times" pulitzer winning reporter is also making big headlines. a part of an ongoing battle for freedom of the press. risen is facing jail time after refusing for six years to reveal a source and testify against a former c.i.a. agent. that agent accused of leaking efforts to undermine iran's nuclear program. all this is prompting risen to slam president obama saying that a lot of people still think this is some kind of gym or signal or spin. they don't want to believe that obama wants to crack down on the press and whistle blowers but he does. he's the greatest enemy to press freedom in a generation. pretty harsh words coming from "the new york times." >> times times. exactly. >> look on the how he treated not james risen but james rosen,

his own family members. this administration is hell bent on squeezing the press. >> i think everyone has picked up on it and it's interesting that 100,000 people signed a petition demanding that the government stop all legal action against risen so people are aware. people are holding the obama administration accountable for their actions and recognizing this is a consistent pattern in this administration to go after the press. that's not something that obama wants to hang his legacy on. >> brian, you hear the president speaking out about the reporters and how they've been treated in ferguson and you go, oh, really? you're defending reporters now? you've been going after them but his administration is going after them nonetheless. >> he's still the washington correspondent. people say they just want to give him a pass. no other president, not bill clinton, not george bush. it goes through the whole administration. think about john brennan. the c.i.a. that he was in charge

of was spying on key senators in the intelligence committee. he goes, all right. i did. so? so where are the ramifications there? >> you see some behavior of this administration, harris, vying on staffers and then lying about it. tapping phone lines, tapping phone numbers from family members. >> this is also a white house seeing cherry pick. he calls us as a whole the filter for the people. he's called out fox news and not said nice things. you know, he's looked at what is necessary and what is not and he sees the media generally that's not necessary to the conversation that he'll be having with the american people. at the same time, the double edged sword. people in his administration saying we get our news from tv news, from the newspaper. >> what would he do without the

press? >> another way to use the word hype critical. it came down to that. you go to the situation in missouri and you hear the president blasting the police treatment of those two reporters and you just sit back and you think, i mean, how he could present the situation there as one thing but yet, act in a completely different way, him and his administration. you know, it's very hypocritical circumstance. >> when he got elected, this president saw the press as the al ally. >> he likely told them his gait. >> we went to a filter to unnecessary. >> the nfl may be toughening up on domestic violence cases but hear why the new rules may not be enough. up next.

>> the nfl is reportedly considering toughening the penalties for future domestic violence cases. you may remember the uproar over nfl star ray rice getting a two game suspension after he knocked out the woman who is now his wife. and a video of him dragging her out of an elevator. many calling the punishment a slap on the wrist. now the nfl is reportedly considering a new policy and it could mean four to six game suspension for a first domestic violence offense and potentially a season long suspension for a second one. brian, ian, this sounds a little odd to me. we're going to wait until he potentially beats this woman or another woman or any person for that matter again before he gets a stronger suspension? >> or lose the whole season and now instead of two weeks and roger goodell making the decision, he'll have to meet with the union, negotiate with

the union and say four to six. he'll double it. you're in two situations. one, domestic abuse is abhorrent, it shouldn't be in any walk of life. we've seen people on television get in trouble for the same thing. having said that, from a practical level, women make up 40% of the viewing audience. forget about who plays or not. >> do you think the ray rice incident is going to affect the female viewership? >> i have so much respect for this commissioner. i look for this to happen. how could a union push back? >> sometimes it's too little, too late, andrea. >> i think in this instance, it's better late than never because it is a problem. we're seeing these athletes, unfortunately, the baltimore ravens, ray rice isn't the only one be charged with domestic violence. a couple of other players were as well. i just think it's a sad state of

affairs that in this day and age, the nfl has to have domestic violence as one of their front and center issues because it's a problem. is it systemic in the nfl? no. do i think four to six games is appropriate? i don't know. i think it could be harsher. if they deter players, the stricter, the better. >> they don't get paid. the average career is three years and if you don't get paid for six months or one year, you'll never make that up. >> you know it's interesting. you mentioned being systemic in the nfl. it's systemic in society. you know, the statistic, 1.3 million women are victims of physical assault by an intimate partner each year in america. that's sickening. it only makes sense that the nfl is part of american life. that's also part of american life. now you're tasked with how much reaction should a corporation and i guess technically the nfl is that, right? it's a group of corporations. >> absolutely. >> how much responsibility and response should that giant

corporation have to things that are systemic in american life? whether it be domestic abuse, any number of things. drug use? >> yeah. >> racial equality. sports has been leading the way in a lot of certain situations and this is a way they could lead the way. >> i'm not a football girl to be perfectly honest, but i see four to six games. that sounds lame. it sounds like they're waiting for let's see if he does it again so we can get really tough. no. how about you get tough off the bat and send a message this kind of behavior is not tolerated in the nfl, period? >> and there are crimes. >> nfl cannot have their athletes committing crimes and breaking the law. but what frustrates me the most is that ray rice's fiance came out and not just a pole goized, she a pole -- apologized. >> you have the hall of famer in the 1990's. his wife wouldn't press charges. women said you're letting us down. but it's so typical with

domestic abuse. >> so sad. >> it's sad. >> in that case allegedly because he was acquitted. >> the nfl is a business like no other, that you two pointed out and they have to measure risks and the risks involved when they make these diecisions. >> some women claim domestic abuse to get back at them. there's also the side of them being innocent and wrongly accused. >> students returning to school in one city may find it a little harder to slack off in gym class. why some think it may be another case of the nanny state going too far. >> i used to eat in gym class.

there's a gap out there. that's keeping you from the healthcare you deserve. at humana, we believe the gap will close when healthcare gets simpler. when frustration and paperwork decrease.

when grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. so let's do it. let's simplify healthcare. let's close the gap between people and care. ... ... ... test. test. test. rrn

>> there's more outnumbered in just a moment. first, though, let's go to ed henry, my buddy, with what's coming up in the second hour of "happening now." >> next hour we just learned that hillary clinton will be making a visit to the state of iowa. it comes as we get fascinating details on how the former secretary of state travels. lots of perks. we'll have a live report. negotiations, meanwhile, underway or -- over extending a

five-day cease fire in gaza. ebola fears intensifying today as the disease spreads in africa. new report suggests that 2,000 cases we know about could be the tip of the iceberg and a woman in new mexico undergoes testing after returning from africa with a fever. how worried should web? we'll talk to dr. garner. good to see you, harris. go easy on bring an over there. >> in your dreams. >> 51 minutes in, he wants us to go easy. if you cared, you would have come down here and briefed the whole cast prior. >> he doesn't care. >> it's all in the prompter, be nice to brian. >> we've been very nice to you. >> we have been. >> except you and sandra. you're going at it. >> any fun, playful way. let's see if we can dote on that relationship. now it's my turn for a great story. kids better think twice about slacking off at a gym class when they go back to school in one iowa city. midland high school students will have to wear heart monitors in phys ed to make sure they're actually be active.

athletic director says teachers will use the information from the monitors in kids' report cards and it will be part of their grade. serious stuff in gym. you're shaking your head. go. >> i'm looking at sandra because sandra is the most athletic person i know. she ran track at l.s.u. she has definite opinions about gym class. >> you're passing? >> i'm passing to sandra. >> i loved gym class. okay? i love -- andrea knows i love competition. you know, give me -- i need to get my heart rate up? i'll get my heart rate up. i would love this if they gave this to me but i don't know the costs involved so i'm hesitant to endorse it. >> it's public school. >> so this is going to be expensive. those heart rate monitors are not cheap. i don't know if this is a case of a teacher being lazy and doesn't want to actually assess the kids if they're working hard or not or if this is, you know -- maybe this removes all judgment on the teacher's part. >> here is the thing. don't tell me our kids are fat and you're not doing anything about it when we're trying to

help you by giving your own baseline with your own heart monitors to know how hard you're working and you don't to want do it. >> i actually like it. >> you like it? >> i like it and i think kids will like it because kids like gadgets and once you have the little gadget and they get into it, i think they then get into fitness somehow and kids are lazy in gym. i know because i was one of them. i hated gym class. i used to make excuses and forget my clothes. >> were you the "i forgot my gym clothes" girl? or i have cramps. >> it didn't work. >> why not? >> i think sexist. here is the thing. you want great grades but you didn't care about athleticism perhaps. if you're graded on it, game on. i don't care from an academic kid or physical kid. >> i got gret grades and great marks in gym class. there are kids that don't want to play dodge ball. they don't want to run. i the same thing with the girl who doesn't want to bring her

clothes. >> i don't want to see her health care fund. >> i'm with sandra. why should we pay for monitors? i think it's an added cost. i think the gym teacher knows which kid needs to get his big butt moving for class. you need to us us heart monitors for show to make sure we're lively enough. >> if you're in the elevator and you want to get in the studio and she's with you, put some track shoes on. she'll push you. she's fast. >> you just praised sandra during your time. >> i can run in high heels. let me tell you something. >> she's my buddy z. take my camera. i'm done. i don't have more time. what a shame. >> you had ed henry for a minute. >> it's a blessing and a curse for parents trying to get ahold of their kids. it's all been a curse. one mom has created an app to combat the pesky ignore button. listen up... i'm reworking the menu. veggies you're cool...

mayo, corn dogs...you are so out of here! ahh... the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals. 9 grams of protein... with 30% less sugars than before. ensure, your #1 dr. recommended brand now introduces ensure active. muscle health. clear protein drink and high protein. targeted nutrition to feed your active life. ensure. take life in.

♪ ♪ well, this could be every kid's worst nightmare. one frustrated mom invented an app to prevent kids from ignoring the phone call. it locks the smart phone until they return. call home or call for emergency. but other than that no more

calls. >> it's sad, you pay for the kid's tuition and pay for the phone itself and they will not return your call and a lot of times they will return it if you lock the bank account. and you can zap the phone within 24 hours. shooe this woman was a genius. >> is this too much big mother? >> no, it makes sense if they are paying the bill. if she was a genius she would have that so women can do that to their husbands. >> does it surprise you that maybe wives don't call their husband? in your mind, could it possibly be the other way around? >> no. >> i don't think so. >> does it happen to you a lot. >> possibly. >> i have a bad feeling my mother is down loading the app now. and i'm in my 30s and my crazy

italian. >> always take phone call cans from your mom. >> i do most of the time, right, mom, right. >> we'll stay here for outnumbered over time. click the over time tab and the fun continues tomorrow on tv at noon eastern. >> time out. >> right now, three big developing stories we are watching this hour. new questions about the shooting of 18 year old michael brown. the family is releasing the autopsy. and president meeting with top advisors in washington before heading back to martha's vineyard. and the deadly ebola virus may be spreading beyond africa. >> and starting with a big shift on the battlefield in iraq as kurdish and forces take back control of the country's largest dam. i am