arlington, texas. look at the cops. that's hilarious. >> a little pose in the back. >> that's it. angie and brad, congratulations. >> beat that, martha. martha: good morning, everybody. this very serious story for you. a second american killed alongside isis. i'm martha maccallum alongside. leland vittert. a frightening call from al qaeda calling for car bomb attacks in crowd tourist areas making specific references to cities up as las vegas and new york city. peter doocy live in washington.

what else do we know about the latest threat surfacing against the homeland. >> reporter: an attack date is behind at in a magazine published by al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. the first three numbers of the year are printed. it says 201? it could be a 4 or a 5. experts suggest a plot is imminent. jihadis are encouraged to detonate car bombs in "new york times" square, las vegas, and age tankers and trains and limit colleges across the country. they are also encouraged to build pressure cooker bombs. martha: what do we know:this

second american who was allegedly fighting side by side with isis? >> reporter: the second man from minnesota was apparently killed in the same battle that killed the life of another man douglas mcarthur mccain. the state department isn't confirming the second death, but his family says they received a note oat of his dead body. mohammad, the father of 9 who has been reportedly married and separated from three women took the photos to post facebook photos of himself to express interest in establishing an islamic caliphate posting quota muslim has to stand up for what's right. i give up this worldly life for allah. the u.s. government believes there may be 100 other americans

didn't what who hammed a and douglas mcarthur did, leave america and pledge allegiance to isis. march thank? >> reporter: the mother of one of the other american journalists being held by isis is pleading for mercy. sotloff's mother took this video yesterday. >> steven is a journalist who traveled to the middle east to cover the suffering of muslims at the hands of tyrants. he's an honorable man and has always tried to help the weak. we have not seen steven for over a year and we miss him have

much. we want to see him home safe and sound and to hug him. >> reporter: the plea of one mother for her son, the freelance journalist was captured a little over a year ago. >> the chairman of the house intelligence committee says the cost of inaction could be dire. >> this notion if we don't do anything egg will be okay is going to continue. this is as dangerous a threat matrix i have seen on my time in an intel committee. it is serious. >> reporter: rogers says there are believed to be as many as 500 canadians fighting for the terror group and the attack on the u.s. homeland could be a car ride away. martha: what does a wait for a decision from the white house mean.

what is the president doing in terms of making that decision. is it becoming less likely he will decide to attack these sights in the syrian territory? joining me now is mike warren. the staff writer for the weekly standard. we have seen delays before and in the past they have largely amendments the president decided he doesn't have the backing from congress or for whatever reason he decided it's not wise to strike. view very recent history tells us if he delays this any farther than we won't see any action. i think things have changed a little bit on the ground. i think that terrible death of james foley has staken things up and made president obama rethink his own foreign policy. but i think you are right. the more he delays this, it send a signal to the american people he doesn't know what his strategy is going after these terrorists. i think that that hopefully he

will look and see that this is a group that isn't the jv squad to al qaeda's varsity squad. they are more of an army rather than a bunch of loosely affiliated terrorists. they don't look at pouredders between syria and iraq and bombing in syria is a way to help decimate them and stop them from doing more tear ebel things. martha: we have the west point report that this group has been steadily growing. the president goes to a fundraiser in rhode island, is that a good idea given the recent history? >> it continues to send that signal that maybe he's not that serious or understands the seriousness of what isis is and what they could be doing and why it's important for the united states to do something about it.

if he's going off to play golf or off to a fundraiser here or anywhere else, i don't think the american people see that and say he doesn't care. it's the conjunction of that with the policy which is all over the place. we don't know what we are going to be doing here. we are doing airstrikes. but this is a serious threat. so i think there is a lot of nothing really makes sense about the policy itself. so we are seeing all these mixed signals. going to rhode island doing fundraisers is hurting him and hurting his case if he wants to make the case doing more airstrikes in syria against isis is the right thing to do. martha: you have to look at the president's agenda, his schedule, where he extends his time. actions speak loud are than words and perhaps all of us in 24-48 hours will say, that's what they had planned and see

action on the ground in syria. lorpt * you in know what's going opening until it actually happens. so we'll see as things develop. a fox news alert. reports of a russian hack attack hitting u.s. bangs including jpmorgan banks. it includes siphoning off checking and savings account information. how much do we know about what these guys took? >> reporter: it was extremely sophisticated. it penetrated level after level of security and got right to the heart of the bang. that usually implies a government is involved not private enterprise criminals. and the light is shining point russians. why would they do something like this if it was them that did it? why would they do it? they may be setting up the long-term disruption of

america's financial system. did this to is ston to estonis . it may be the theft of information that can be used. or it can be looking at what we can do. you put sanctions on us and look what we can do. >> reporter: it seem as though it would have to have a deeper meaning than we wanted to show you we could do this. as you look past this in terms of as a consumer looking at this. is there any place your information is safe? is there anybody who hasn't been hacked yet? >> reporter: that's a difficult question to happen because hacks are occurring all off. i got another report from dairy queen that their credit and debit card information of their customers has been hacked into. this follows the target data breach last year.

we are told the the same virus. it's called backoff, has been used in the dairy queen attack and it's being usinged to many, many companies. the bottom line is nobody's information is safe at this point and frankly nobody knows how to protect that information either. >> reporter: use cash, that might work. martha: there is extreme weather and it's creating major waves on both coasts. have you seen these pictures? monster swells are paradise for the surfers you it's turning deadly in some cases. we'll have details on that for you. >> reporter: first he was a hero, now a zero. josh shaw claiming he saved his nephew from drowning, then he admits he made it all up. how did he actually hurt himself? martha: president obama going around congress again and again. why critics say enough is enough. >> he's done this with global

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waves four times higher than normal. it leaves people worried about their homes and surfers are stoked. >> the best waves in 30-years plus. this is historic. we haven't had nothing like this in years. >> there has been one reported death as well as multiple water rescues about surfers and spec 8ors watching the waves. it's causing lifeguards to beef up patrols on the beaches. martha: the president calling for more drastic energy policies to combat global energy change. and rand paul says the president needs to be reminded the u.s. is not monarchy. >> this is cap and trade we rejected.

now we's going around democracy. he's doing an end around congress. you can't manage the american public would let him do this. i hope we'll see resolutions and legislation and legal action. i support speaker boehner's legal fight to say the president can't just do what he wants. he's not a king. he has to get approval from congress. martha: a reminder of how things are supposed to run in this country. tucker carlson the coeder to of the "daily caller." >> senator paul is right when he he we are letting this happen meaning congress. fdr tried to take over the supreme court. them they will take all the line you give they them. in r for climate change is no legal justification for that. if you want to enter into a

treaty with a foreign power you need the senate to sign off on it and that would never happen. so that's completely over the top that they would talk about that. martha: they are using language that would get them around that. >> it would be some sort of moral agreement. there is no public support for this. if you were to have a nationwide ref even dumb should we raise energy prices to combat global climate change. you would get a small percentage. he's acting on behalf of a small group of ideologues. and the science doesn't support this. you haven't seen a rights in global temperatures in 20 years. why is that? we aren't sure. until we figure out what's happening with the global climate we should hike energy taxes for something you don't understand. martha: you just mentioned the

library. the president wants a list of accomplishments he can talk about when he writes his book and does this speeches after his presidency. these are issues he thinks will resonate with his base. >> he's under a huge amount of pressure highly energetic people. his donors really. the l.a. so-called creative community is hot on this and they are hammering at of single fundraiser he goes to. on the immigration question it's a constellation of hispanic group pushing him to open the borders. but on both cases, neither one is going to increase by a net one the number of american jobs. whatever happened to the idea jobs were priority one. can anybody get in front of the camera and say with a straight face taxing energy will create jobs? of course not.

martha: both of those issues go to president obama's home base within himself. we have seen this before from the president where he's saying i know better. i know this is the right thing to do. i'm the president of the united states and you guy are going have to trust me on this. >> reporter: historically there has been in the democratic party a strong strain of populism. how does this affect the asmg person? both of these issues cut against that guy's interests. these don't help the average americans at all. especially working people. these are the kind of issues the elite, the prius drivers love. but they don't help working americans at all. martha: if that's true, then it may be a somewhat selfish move on his part because it won't help democratic dmtds mid terms and beyond.

>> it looks to me like they have given up on the mid-terms. the president would not be tell dpraffing this immigration move if he thought his party had a chance of holding on to the senate. it's not the first time they have given up on democrats in congress, by the way. >> reporter: from domestic policy to foreign policy, has isis turn grown into a worldwide national terror threat? will national security be the main topic for the mid-term and beyond? is very could be bad news for the democrats. martha: . what really happened? >> i would be shocked the if it were the case josh made this up. he's a very, very good boy. is not in the driveway. yeah. it's in the shop. it's going to cost me an arm and a leg.

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martha: crews in indiana putting out a massive fire at a bp oil refinery. bp says it was caused by a quote operational incident and their in-house fire department was able to put the flames out. thankfully nobody was injured. leland: turning to the university of southern california football story we have been following. josh shaw senior quarterback and recently elected captain to the football team sidelined. but now he admits he lied about how exactly he got those injuries. this bizarre story keeps taking more twists. take us through it. how did shaw sprain his angles? why did he lie? and does the university have any

exposure. shaw's defense attorney ... shaw comes in claiming to have injured himself while rescuing a drowning nephew. some witnesses say it never happened. yesterday shaw releasing this statement, quote, i made up a story about this fall that was untrue. i was wrong not to tell the truth. i apologize to usc for this action on my part. shaw's attorney claims he fell off a balcony at apartments where he lived. that same night lapd responds to a woman screaming at the complex. when no one answers they enter the third floor apartment and see a rear window open and see a black man with dreadlocks leaving.

the description matches her boyfriend josh shaw. the attorney says there was no domestic violence. u.e., the woman screaming. that's where it stand now. leland: this isn't the first time usc has been in the middle of a controversy involving some of their football players, right? >> reporter: if they hadn't wanted to make this guy out like a hero and treated it as another injury it would have gone nowhere. consider this recent past. 2006, an investigation reveals star running-back reggie bush took $100,000 in benefits from sports agencies while at the university. later that year the ncaa bans usc from postseason play for lack of institutional control, vai kaight their national championship as well.

in 2012 bush returns his heisman trophy. will it face sanctions for what happened with josh shaw? was in a coverup or were they duned by his story though failing to obviously properly vet it. leland: the hits just keep on coming. martha: i just can't understand if you are going to make something up why would it be i'm a hero. why not say i tripped when i was -- it makes no sense. he even said when this original story came out, i would do it again. i would do it for any kid. leland: i'll jump off the balcony. martha: coming up on america's newsroom. the sister of the alleged boston bombers is in police custody

after making threats of her own. what she said that sent a chill down her alleged victim's spine. leland: as isis swarms across syria and iraq, a new report shows they didn't just pop up suddenly. >> his entire national security team said arm the syrian rebels that woul would arm with us.

martha: it took isis four years to build into the group is. a west point report says the group didn't appear in june when so many people started hearing about it when they took mouse and fallujah. this report blames american

inaction in syria for the growth of isis. >> this is not an act of nature. isis didn't come about from a hurricane or storm. they filled in a vacuum created three years ago by the president's inaction in syria. he had a chance when he drew a red line with assad and did nothing about it. he allowed this problem to get worse. my belief is the commander in chief is der applicant his duty. and if we don't hit these guys in syria. our goal should be to defeat them not contain them. martha: it's very true that we have been hear being this group for a long time. we have had guests on this program warning that if we didn't deal with the issue in syria and back the free syrian army at a significant moment in

time about two years ago that we would leave a vacuum that would allow this group to grow. that's precisely what happened, is it not? >> that's exactlyight. the united states did leave a vacuum and the bad guys filled the vacuum. we know these people are dangerous, they are deadly, they are blood thirsty and they targeted the united states of america. the beheading of james foley. the video of that was a message to america. that's how they titled it. that's where they are coming. these are not as president obama said a jv team putting on lakers uniforms. this has been almost 10 years in the making sprung out after prison in iraq. many of these people are from saddam hussein's regime. they are organized to the point that they have different divisions focusing on fundraising, on arms, on recruitment, and on military

operations, ban they are the richest terrorist army in history. martha: they have billions of dollars. let's put up a full screen that shows where their main sources of funding are. this is not a group living in caves in the the mountains and hoping to plot some plan in the sand. they are dealing with extortion and crime networks. taking hostages, many of which the europeans have paid millions of dollars to get back. they have an oil business going. and they have massive donations coming from countries who are sympathetic to them. how do you take on that kind of threat? >> you can't do it by leading from behind. the president need to spell out to the american people. articulate the threat we are facing.

the threat to the homeland and outline his strategy of dealing with it and dealing with this strategy that actually he equals the threat. what we heard are mixed messages coming from the administration. some say contain. others say crush. some say degrade, others say destroy. there are a lot of different ways to do that and we need to know what the president's proposal is. we have been flying missions, air force missions but they have been described as humanitarian and protecting americans. that's not going to gets the job done. the american people have to put together a coalition from around the world of others to come together to destroy this group that is so committed to destroying america. >> reporter: word is that the administration is working on building that kind of coalition. when you take a look at the tea leaves, what we know the president has done so far, you look at the issue of global warming and immigration which he

said i'm going to act unilaterally. he could act unilaterally in this case as well in terms of attacking isis across the syrian border. because he has not done that. does that indicate to you that he is the person in the administration who is inclined to want to go that route and others are trying to convince him? >> the secretary of state has said they must be destroyed. the secretary of defense said they are an imminent threat to the use the. the president needs to lay out what this strategy and plan is to deal with this direct thread to the united states. he's commander in chief. he needs to share that with the american people and i think he should not let congress off the hook. members of congress should be asked and required to vote on his plan.

>> martha: senator brass oh, thank you for being here. the combating terrorism center is a privately funded research center that put together that report from that group. leland: interesting and chilling in terms of you realize how big they have gotten and how many land they control and the oil revenues as well. more problems around the world. the ukrainian president is calling an emergency meeting of his national security council. he accuses russia of a new invasion into his country days after the leaders of ukraine and russia agreed to work toward earning the conflict. what has sparktd the president to call this new meeting? >> the ukrainian government says there has been a movement of

russian troops into eastern ukraine. the president canceled a trip to turkey to hold this emergency security council meeting. what concerns kiev is rebel forces have entered the town of november zof *. it's. on the coast. russian forces have crossed over to play a role in this battle. russian troops are joined the fight i'll on holiday. none of this can be confirmed but the escalation is a serious setback. >> the situation in ukraine has deteriorated. russia sent a number of armored personal vehicles, tanks and troops. we can confirm that russian

military boots are on ukrainian ground. >> reporter: russia still denies direct military involvement. but nato says it believes there are 1,000 russian troops in ukraine. and they say the latest fighting is russian direct. leland: a senior official from the united states saying they believe there are russian troops on the ground. martha: republicans saying the other side was asleep at the switch in the runup to the next election. leland: a pad air day at the up s. open leaving one player you might say in a bind. you're here to buy a car.

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martha: we all had bad hair days, yesterday at the up s. open, caroline wozniaki got her hair stuck in her tennis racket. she wasn't hurt and was all smiles about the whole thing. she won the match. it looks like it got caught in the teeth. she says the reason she braids her hair now is it happened before she started braiding it. no comment from mcilroy, her forker fiance. leland: i found it's a good thing to never say anything about a woman's hair.

an op-ed piece in the wall street journal taking aim at the democrats asking whether the democratic party can be trusted with fratiotrust --trusted with. >> these cockroaches organized, funded themselves, built a forceful military, started conqueringy graphic areas around the world, under his nose, he ignored it, he did nothing about it, he didn't talk to the american people about it, as a matter of fact he down played it. this one of the worst military national security screw-ups in modern american history. leland: you never have to worry about what mark levin really thinks.

let's separate for a moment the mid-terms which we are a little bit more than 60 days away from and 2016. are democrats worried the isis rise and the beheading of james foley will become a major issue and a drag for them going forward? >> it is an issue but it's not a major issue. if you look at the polls, clearly americans are concerned. the beheading of james foley has outraged americans far and wide across all political lines. but if you ask about the level of american intervention it stops at the use of airstrikes and the current moment, air surveillance of syria and isis occasion headquarters, straining facilities in syria. there is no appetite for a second war. there is no response to the republican hawks say we need to intervene militarily.

leland: could you think the republicans are going to be able to capitalize on the public's concern about isis in the mid-terms? >> the same polls juan talks about shows president obama is at record lows across the board but specifically on his leadership in foreign affairs. of single day we see isis doing what they are doing, us not responding but not necessarily making a huge continues at this point. we have people saying and not just republicans, when have the west point survey that came out that we have known about this for four years. and the president did nothing. just months ago he's calling these folks junior varsity. he has known about it for four years which tells me other democrats may have known about it such as hillary clinton at the state department. i think a lot of voters are questioning the leadership this president has shown but also the larger party, because you don't see any of the democrats cutting

off saying the president has been wrong. leland: how do democrats counter that if they are running in the congressional district. some of their senate races are extremely tight. how do they count are that feeling genevieve is talking about. how do they distance themselves from the president on foreign policy? >> genevieve is right about the president's numbers on foreign policy. his approval rating is down low. the thing is, he's not on the ballot. it's for moderate democrats to say they have a didn't approach and they are there to influence him. when you started this segment you said let's separate 14 degree from 16 degree. if you are talking about hillary clinton, she has separated herself out and taking a more hawkish view of foreign policy.

leland: i want to pivot to 016. i want -- pivot to 2016. it didn't w but it was squarely on foreign policy. >> it's 3:00 a.m. and your children are safe asleep. who do you want answering the phone? >> i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. leland: that didn't work out so well for her in 2008. in 2016 is it going to be a problem for democrats, specifically for hillary running as foreign policy stands right now with the rise of isis? >> i think people are worried about foreign policy. but the republicans have always had an advantage off democrats when it comes to national security and use of the military. i think they sacrificed some of that confidence give what happened in iraq, afghanistan,

nation building in the middle east. prime minister were off a little bit. now the republicans have an opportunity to bring that natural instinct on the part of the american voter because of rising concern over isis. >> rand paul has taken a swing calling hillary clinton a hawk. >> i wish rand paul had been right on that. back when it happened in the earlier campaign i remember anything a democrat had to win i wish it would be hillary because i think she would have been tougher. but with was her record? as secretary of state sheep supported president obama's policies. when she was in power. went along with this. it what's you did when you had the chance and she didn't. the fact is, the democrats, including president obama, but others have always tried to blame bush for everything that's

happening in the middle east. but the reality is it's not just about pulling out of iraq. it's president obama's policies. he's the one who started drawing red lines but did nothing about it. leland: we'll see how the red line comment continue to the play. juan, genevieve, thank you. martha: the sister of the boston marathon bombers has been arrested. we'll tell you what she said that made everybody's head turn. leland: what is the most american city in america? a new survey out names the top spot. we are going to tell you, it could be your city. we'll tell you coming up. you never know. (knocking) hello? hey, i notice your car is not in the driveway.

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leland: nashville is the most american city in the united states. it's not just the music. it's also about the demographics. income, et and education. cincinnati, joe is the second most american city. followed by indianapolis, and we want to know what you think. is your city perhaps the most american city? would you say that? martha: you sang your way in with the right song and leland

vittert is wearing cowboy boots. if bill were here he would be upset. i'm suspect about how they measured this. i think it ought to be based on patriotism, music, nashville would win. best cheeseburger. i think along these lines. i would have voted for something in new jersey which is an awesome town. >> the sister of theee accused boston bombers has been arrested for making bomb threats. if you can believe this. police charged 23-year-old ailiana tsarnaev after she allegedly threatened her

boyfriend's ex-girlfriend. >> reporter: she allegedly used her brother's alleged bombing to reportedly skater mother of her boyfriend's child. saying i have people who can go over there and put a bomb on you. tsarnaev was arrested on one count of aggravated harassment after she allegedly made the threat against her ex-boyfriend's ex in a phone call. she appeared in court on charges related to the use of counterfeit money. her brothers are accused of planting bomb near the finish line of the boston marathon. she lives in new jersey but turned herself in to authorities in manhattan. she'll have to answer to those charges next month.

leland: a second american killed overseas fighting with isis.

martha: a second american citizen killed in syria while fighting on the side of isis as the group gains strength and threatens the united states. welcome, everybody to hour two of "america's newsroom." leland: sources tell fox news the second american was from the somali-american community in minneapolis and was killed in the same battle as this man, douglas mccain who grew up near minneapolis as well. we are learning shocking details about other americans from the same area fighting alockside isis. martha: ed henry is with us and he will be live from the lawn.

let's go to catherine herridge for more on this. >> reporter: our source in minneapolis says a second family was sent a photo from syria reportedly of their son. the state department did not immediately respond. he was one of 15 men mostly somalis who went to syria joining isis. this is the the same pattern we saw when young somali men began leaving for east africa to join the al qaeda affiliatal hah back. the -- affiliate al-shabab.

an official said they have never seen a group like isis use a propaganda campaign so effectively. the free syrian army told reporters about mccain. based on their social meade why profiles mccain was friends with, went to high school with this man, who was killed fighting with the al qaeda affiliate in somalia in 2009. in this letter obtained by fox news through nidal hasan's attorney. the fort hood shooter has written to the head of isis asking to join the caliphate. hassan's attorney told fax news he believes the letter is more

evidence of hassan's extreme beliefs about it shows how widely this message is resonating even here in the united states. leland: the obama administration is weighing its options for how to deal with isis but no word on new air strikes. ed henry live from the west lawn. is the white house pulling back on u.s. military intervention? >> the white house has been pointing more toward diplomacy than military might saying that may be the best option. but we got breaking news in the last few moments. the president added to his schedule a 4:00 p.m. eastern time meeting in the white house situation room with vice president biden and the rest of his national security team. it's clear after self days of deliberations he had private meeting with his defense secretary. this could be pointing toward a decision meeting. go or don't go.

to have this meeting at the end of a week in which there has been intense deliberations. having this added to the president's schedule for late this afternoon suggests we are heading toward some sort of a decision, airstrikes or no. >> you have that meeting, obviously the president back from vacation from a busy week. is the white house worried about the optics continuing, first vacation, then fundraisers. now more fundraisers? >> interesting question. they clearly do not seem to care about the optics. after the president went golfing last week moments after that statement where he had strong word about the beheading of james foley and went out on the golf course, high fiving his friend. he took a lot of heat for that. but the white house announcing he's going to go to rhode island, do to some fundraising for house democrats clearly successes he's doubling down on this. doesn't care with the critics are saying.

he's going to do his democratic party business. he will play golf when he wants to regardless of the critics. >> reporter: ed henry from the lawn. we'll have moremate later. thank you. martha: rich, you heard from ed henry reported, the president headed to rhode island for a fundraiser in the middle of all this. what do you make of this? >> reporter: for them the fundraising never ends. it's a way for him to help the democratic candidates. ed is right. there is a deep ambivalence in this administration about how to deal with this isis threat and it goes right to the top to the president himself. martha: he will head to rhode island tomorrow according to what we are hearing. you talk about that ambivalence. there was a report that said during that principle meeting the goal was to convince one

man, and that man was barack obama. do you think the president is isolated in his hess answer? >> i think the administration is divided. but he himself is deeply conflicted. you hear the rhetoric of how evil isis is. how they will inevitably fail and the world rejects them. that successes this is a serious project hem we need to take care of. but his policy has been hands off in syria. his whole political identity is caught up in his opposition to military intervention in iraq. it would be painful for hem to do more than's doing right now. >> reporter: there was a quote attributed to an administration official that says the white house believes the threat from isis is one that will continue after the obama presidency. i thought to myself, what's the message there? is it that -- is that

containment message? we need to keep pushing back on them and ultimately this is going to outlast us anyway? >> i think that's his default option. the president is containment is doing the bare minimum, doing perhaps a slightly more aggressive version of what we are doing now. and just avoiding hopefully any major defeats, avoiding any major embarrassments. if something terrible happens at least the and min straition can say we did something. but i don't think that's adequate. the two questions are do you contain soarp defeat. >> the president suggested that he believes that, you know, action stirs the hornet's nest and getting involved can sometimes make things worse. >> that's a very important point. that was the bedrock of his entire critique of the bush foreign policy. again, this is why it's so painful for him intellectually

on top of politically and rear toically. as a comprehensive philosophy of how the world works it was absolutely wrong. we got out of iraq creating a vacuum for isis. we didn't intervene in syria, we didn't try to support moderate rebels which created the vacuum for isis. it's our inaction and passivity that have aloud this threat to me atospread. leland: there is a new english language magazine from al qaeda urging attacks on times square, las vegas, and the united states air course academy in colorado. we know is * has american fighters with western passports. what's being done to make sure the homeland is safe? congressman peter king weighed in on that plus this.

martha: two couples of russian tangs said to be rolling into the ukraine as government troops lose ground to pro-russia rebel fighters. leland: an all-out search underway for a missing national guard pilot after his jet crashed. >> when i saw the orange flames coming off the ground it was shaky. you don't expect to see something like that.

leland: a massive search in west virginia after a fighter jet crashed in the mountains on a routine flight from massachusetts to new orleans. one witness describing the incredible sight of that n18 coming down. >> these guys were going pretty fast. when i saw that -- the orange flames coming up off the ground, it was absolutely shaky. you don't expect to seeing too something like that. >> reporter: an international guard -- the nationality guard spokesman said the pilot ejected.

martha: a publication urging bomb attacks on times square and the las vegas strip. this has we get word that second american has been killed alongside fighting with isis. how safe are we after 9/11 after these growing threats. peter cane is the chairman of the subject very committee on counterterrorism. congressman, good to have you back here today. very specific threats. we have seen an attempt in times square before. what can you tell us about how things are currently being ramped up to face what we are dealing with? >> this is a con stajt threat. and every time we approach september 11 there seems to be an increase in the threats. these type magazines are effective proper began today tools not just for getting support for inspiring young men

and women near the united states to carry out attacks. if weiss reports are accurate about the two men from minneapolis fighting overseas, indianapolis an example of the support here in the united states. i heard three years ago about the radicalization in the muslim communities and i focused on minneapolis. there were a number of young muslim men fighting overseas and the local leaders were covering up. this support here in this country so we have to worry about people carrying out attacks within the country. now with these isis for which has over 100 americans fighting in syria with al qaeda-affiliated groups. 500 canadians. but also more than that. there is thousands of europeans with european passports and they enter the up s. without having 0 get a visa. automatic entry into the u.s. this is a growing concern.

it is a very, very, very real concern. >> you make a great point about this hotbed in minneapolis which you have talked about and you handled in your hearing as well on counter-terrorism. >> we previously were aware of his presence in syria and his affiliation with isil. without getting into too many more specifics it remains the case that we use of tool we have to disrupt and dissuade individuals from traveling abroad for violent jihad and to track and engage those who return. >> reporter: our intel agencies do a tremendous amount of great work. we also know these watchlists are extremely below thed. by some estimates 800,000 names on them. so what is currently being done, congressman, to change the way that we handle who gets in and out of this country give what we now know? do we know who these 140

american passport holders are? do we know the many names they go under? are we able 0 get them by:facing recognition -- by facial recognition? >> we think we know them. it's not possible to know who is going to fight in syria. they could be visiting relatives in egypt and mac their way to syria. we don't have full knowledge, the government, homeland security, fbi, all the he will amendment the intelligence community try to monitor this as best they can. but several months ago we saw the american from florida killed in a suicide bombing in syria. he had come back to the united states and traveled back and while he was in syria. so obviously there was one person. martha: what people do not want to hear if god bid something happens, yes, he was on our radar. he was on our list, we don't

know yes was able to travel, we don't know why he was able to get back into this country and why the coordination with europe wasn't what i'd should have been. that's what no one wants to hear. >> this requires 24/7 full time. this is not a game we are playing. we have an enemy who would spender moment trying to kill us. many measures have to be taken to find out who these people are and why it's important to have surveillance here at home. the ncpd criticized ray kelly for trying to monitor who would be joining and who would be active in these terrorist organizations. but it's he accepting we have it at all dinlt levels. know hog his overseas and knowing who here in this country is contacting people oversea $s. part of that is part of the overall picture we have to have. there is no guarantee it would be 100% effective.

but we have to use every element at our business postal. martha: we have to be as good as we can possibly be because this threat is big and it's looming. bettelooming. leland: another embarrass the for the veterans affairs department. oscar the grouch used to refer to our american war heroes. martha: s.w.a.t. team members called out after an internet prank goes too far. >> this is a real thing for us. this is not a game. we are real guns and real bullets and there is the potential there for some tragedy. bulldog: if you're like me,

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>> some internet prank put several schools and businesses on lockdown. somebody made a phony 911 call leading to a massive s.w.a.t. response in louisville colorado. that is the place of the colorado school massacre in 1999. you can imagine the response. >> the caller stated he shot multiple coworkers at his office. we had some success backtracking these kind of calls through the internet and record systems to identify the caller and prosecute them. >> he was targeting online gamers streaming from the building at the time. they did not arrest anybody. jon: fox new fox news alert in n europe from ukraine now, a full scale invasion by russian troo troops, a spokesperson now says two tense from russia have entered a strategic town in the east amid reports at least 1000

russian troops are now fighting alongside rebel forces. moscow continues to deny any involvement. fox news military analyst. first thing's first, does it matter the russians continue to deny this? >> it doesn't, they are lying, they have been lying all along. the state department seems to put a lot of steak and the fact it is almost as if their feelings are hurt because the russians were lying to them, that is what they do. >> assuming they are not going to tell us the truth and actions speak louder than words, we're watching what is happening on the ground with tanks, the use of russian artillery inside ukraine, is there anything ukraine military will do, so badly outdone this is a losing fight? >> this has really turned

political as if it wasn't already. putin cannot afford to lose militarily or lose faith in th this. ukrainian military was taking back a lot of the villages the insurgents and the rebels had taken, as they were taking this over and putin saw this slipping through his fingers and that is why he is pushing in. starting with five armored vehicles, the shortest distance between russia and crimea. that kicked it off, next thing you know the reports keep coming in with more and more russian troops not in russian uniforms but more troops coming in. we know that because the ukrainians captured some russians. >> i was just going to say the russian military said they must have gotten lost, they were on a

nice leisurely drive. somebody said there are some russian troops on vacation and have chosen to fight. some level you can laugh about the absurdity of the diplomatic back and forth, but short of the united states putting troops on the ground, taking on the russians, is there anything that can be done which mark >> we can continue to supply them with the military weapons and ammunition they need. sharing intelligence they need to keep the pressure on russia, but this is going to have to be settled politically. saying unlike we have with iraq and syria, he has real strategy. composed of economic political military. the political is he has been

saying all along and the foreign minister said recently they want it better rated, they want these him providence to have autonomy. >> they keep on talking bu with political situation, u.n. security council meet an emergency session at 2:00 p.m. today to discuss the ukrainian issue. i have a veto, hard to imagine anything will come out of it. >> some new developments, lois lerner lost e-mails can be recovered, but how long is congress going to have to wait to see them? >> we are going to respond, i'm just telling you we are going to at this for years, not months. heather: we will talk to the congressman be at >> a topic of major debate.

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heather: just getting word the president will meet with his national security advisors this afternoon at the white house, no doubt isis will be at the top of the list in the discussions and ukraine-rush issue as well. there is a big homeland security concern presented by some of the latest news. we will let you know when we get any information out of that. jon: new revelations the irs targeting scandal, word lois lerner's e-mails to exist on backup servers, and deliberately

wiped clean after the start of a congressional investigation. so why don't we have those e-mails yet? this exchange between the irs commissioner and utah commissioner from back in march. >> you have a duly issued a subpoena. are you or are you not going to provide this committee the e-mails as indicated in this subpoena? yes or no? i am asking you yes or no. >> we are going to respond to this subpoena. response abilities of the subpoena, we will be at this for years, not months. >> joining us from utah. you were angry in march, more or less angry now? >> more fired up than ever, these are backed up. there is a reason the government spends billions of dollars of continuity of government types of programs. i think we have to bring in the

tech geeks and i think they will show and demonstrate we can recover these e-mails, at least i would like to try. >> is this an issue of intelligence or cover up, at one point summary was saying they could find the e-mails, but it would be too hard. >> i cannot pinpoint their motivation. the president of the united states themselves said he was going to get to the bottom of this, it was outrageous, and say there's not a smidgen of corruption. we have a lot of movement out there where i believe we have blackberry, e-mails, hardware that is crashing, there needs to

be a special prosecutor in order to get to the bottom of this, back in may of this year, 26 democrats joined us in calling for special prosecutor, that is what we really need. >> at some point you need to be communication between the irs, after that communication lois lerner's blackberry was deliberately wiped clean. at some level that doesn't sound good even on the face. >> you have the chairman of the ways and means committee, he ovsight government reform issue several letters, lois lerner came in and met with the reform staff, and then blackberry is wiped, and the laptop crashed 10 days later

after dave kamps p had i was supposed to believe that is spontaneously happen? days in some cases days after united states congress congress was looking into this. that is just absolutely fundamentally wrong. if not an obstruction of congress. >> talking about conflict of interest, i want to ask you about this, he used to be with the irs, his staffer in the organization, he ended up at the justice department involved in the investigation to the former colleagues, and now on monday, is there an issue here? >> there is an issue. 90,000 employees, some talking about a handful involved in th this. going to the department of

justice with 10,000 attorneys who happened to be working these type of cases related to the lowest lerner e-mails and this whole scandal with the irs targeting, so it is more than a coincidence to us. the department of justice and irs on a concerted effort to not reveal the truth and be forthcoming to the congress and american people. >> we have to leave it there, but you will be back in washington next week. we will see what comes out of the irs scandal next. heather: part of america's election headquarters pick six series, a big electoral battle going on in south dakota. mike brown facing off against democrat rick weiland for the senate seat held by democratic senator tim johnson who was retiring. they see this as one of their good chances to pick up a senate seat.

more on this. >> good morning, martha. in politics there is no such thing as a sure thing but for republican south dakota may be as close as they ever hope to come. light brown hoping to come up his senate seat being vacant by the retired senator tim johnson. leading the polls eight to 20 points. running a campaign to rein in the federal government and get rid of obamacare. by taking it apart slowly. >> literally we will have a full debate on the obamacare product and trying to replace it piece by piece with something better and that will actually work. >> he wants to get rid of the department of education and force the epa to go to congress for permission before new rules and regulations, a big issue in farm country. martha: what you tell us about the democratic opponent?

>> he is a former aide to one-time senate minority leader hear from south dakota, a businessman and a musician who has actually put together campaign music videos that are kind of fun to watch but running without the support of harry reid who has said he is not his choice, also keeping arm lengths from president obama with whom he frequently disagrees. he wants to win this on his own. >> whether it is barack obama's blessing or harry reid's blessing, to me that is liberating. i am talking to the people, i want their blessings. >> one of the places the issues where he differs with president is on obamacare. one into opening up to more competition, but it would come from allowing everyone to buy into medicare, sort of saying the affordable care act is not

socialized enough for his liki liking. we will see how that plays out over the next eight weeks. martha: all heating up, thank you. >> we all remember the va scandal. they are back in hot water after reports of an internal training guide that compares veterans to oscar the grouch. our talkshow host will weigh year. martha: the crew from the tv show "cops" and a shooting dea death. >> our concern is with officers were taken is extremely hard. i'm telling you bryce was their friend.

>> a reality show becomes all too real when a tv crew member of the "cops" series was killed. they were responding to a robbery, police say the suspect

fired what turned out to be a pellet gun at them, cops return fire thinking the gun was real. one of the bullets fired by police tragically killed a sound operator for the tv show. >> very fortunate over the years we've never had anything like this, unfortunately this happened and we are dealing with it, it is a very sad day for us. >> all three officers involved are now on leave pending an investigation. >> outcry over training guide on the department of veterans affairs tackled what to say to oscar the grouch dealing with veterans during town hall clinics. calling this slideshow insulting especially in the wake of a scandal of veteran affairs.

welcome to you both. his will take place wednesday according to these reports and this was used in that area as a training guide. what you make of it? >> it is insulting, it is demeaning and they want a cartoon character to educate the folks at the va of the proper treatment, maybe they should use superman because these are the super men and women the reason we are not speaking japanese or german on fox news this morning, these are the heroes of this country, the fact is this administration holds them in low regard. even a speech in west point suggested all the reasons we shouldn't use american military and secretary of state is a guy who described fellow soldiers in the amount as war and suggested if you were stupid you end up in the military and went to iraq. this whole immense visio and hoe military low regard. martha: is this part of the

bigger picture? >> i don't agree with the bigger picture, i knew it could it be a total blue moon because we would agree on some of this. this is offensive, disrespectful, unprofessional. my husband is a physician and when he started out we had a medical practice, the patient has to come first. especially veterans who have put their lives on the line and fought for our freedoms and our safety. they are fearful. if there is a character, maybe it would be the grim reaper. i understand what they're trying to get across although they did it in a tasteless manner. interesting with patients who may be owne ornery and trying to display it as oscar the grouch is one. this administration is responsible for the video and the president doesn't care about the veterans, don't believe the secretary of state john kerry is in charge of the va.

did fight for the country. martha: they are not sure if the training slideshow is created locally or from the national office which reminds us of prior scandals, that remains to be seen. the veterans might be demanding and unrealistic and need to understand how to work with them, and it goes on to detail how to deal with these demanding and unrealistic clients. >> that is the problem, it is not demanding and unrealistic, they went out and put on a uniform, they picked up a gun and defended our country and we promised them in return you put your life between us and the bad guys, you save the world and we will deliver for you. it is not demanding to walk in and say i for filled my side the bargain, now you fulfill yours.

the book never stops on the de desk. all others have said i am responsible for what my administration does. this one constantly says the president is too busy golfing or goofing off or going to bachelor parties to take response ability for anything. nothing is ever his fold, he never knows what is going on until he reads it in the newspaper. i will get to the bottom of this, all of those veterans have heard the same promise of the irs, benghazi and everything else. martha: i wanted to read a quote from a va employee who attended this training and says the content of it really stunned them. studying in bosnia, for long time there was a stereotype of vietnam veterans that they were unstable, bitter and resentful.

this is perpetuating the worst stereotypes of veterans. you feel for him and his reaction, it is very understandable, so what do you recommend be done to put this behind them and move on in a more open, candid and welcoming way? >> i love that you said that, who is to blame the president? i did not like the response on the response ability for what you have done. they have to be an apology, and a training video, and third, this is part of the disconnect between the veterans administration and veterans. again we have to look at what other resources that only financially but equipment that has to be provided to the va, so we don't have these issues going forward. the bottom line is patient care, we have to make sure they are cared for.

martha: the president showed up and said of the situation was intolerable and being fixed and these changes and reforms are absolutely in the works so we hope proof is in the pudding as they go to get that care. thank you, good to see you both. >> thank you, martha. >> monster waves in strong rip currents fueled by a drawing dozens of surfers and in several instances leading to deadly consequences. we will tell you where. >> we encourage by all means to take a look at it, stay within your abilities ♪

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martha: that is how it ended, do you remember that? the controversial ending to "the sopranos" leaving all of us on the engine of our seats. some applaud, others driven crazy by it, it fueled the debate about what exactly happened to new jersey mob boss, character of tony soprano, did he live or die? for seven years the creator has refused to answer that question, but now he is reportedly talking during an interview, he was asked if tony was dead and blurted out no, he isn't. that sent the internet ablaze, but that is not the end of the story. now he says his quote was

misconstrued and taken out of context. saying "visibly quote from saying tony soprano is not dead is inaccurate, more of a spiritual question that you need to consider. so there you go, as clear as m mud. i maintain anybody who watched that episode closely, it was very clear tony soprano was killed because he says earlier in the episode when you die it all just goes black. and that is what would happen if that guy in the members only jacket turned around with a gun and shot him in the head which is the way these gangsters did things on that program. very clear, i invite you to send me a tweet if you disagree with me. >> and you can tweet me, i will have no idea what you are talking about. huge waves are rocking both coasts of the united states,

they will make their way north. they're waiting as high as 15 feet, drawing a lot of surfers. yesterday in new jersey rip currents were claiming the lives of two swimmers. joe, is this going to get worse in the labor day weekend as folks are heading to the beach for a final taste of summer what is it going to get a little bit safer? >> i think is going to get safer as the weekend progresses overall. this isn't the end of summer, this is the start, a pretty warm september. if we can keep the hurricanes away offshore, we will have a good september. going back to this, a hurricane wave is different from a regular storm wave. i would going to school and tell the surfers when there would be a surfers swarm offshore. most of those guys were very

experienced, they would serve in the winter during winter storms. they may think go out and try to surf this thing, a hurricane generates the waves and they spread out as opposed to the different kinds of storms we get in the winter. it leads to fears results for the undertow and the power of the wave and they come in steps. and then you are caught off guard. >> thank you. martha: growing concerns of homegrown terror. second american found dead fighting alongside militants in syria. we will be right back.

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>> it could be a long conversation. >> thank you very much. >> see you then. >> have a great day everybody. "happening now" starts right now. jon: more fears this morning of a homegrown terror threat with word a second american was killed fighting for isis in syria. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. heather: i'm heather nauert in for jenna lee today. as u.s. hits isis targets in iraq and reports are coming in on the death of another american isis fighter. sources tell fox that he came from minneapolis, minnesota, not far from where douglas mcauthur mccain grew up with his fam lynn. both men reportedly died in the same battle with syria. talk about this with conor powell with all the breaking developments from our bureau in jerusalem. hi, conor. what do we know about this guy?