>> in the after the show show, i want you to weigh in. we're going to read some of your comments on whether or not you think celebrities, because they got hacked, does that mean the f.b.i. has to investigate? i ask this question, what about us? i have one second left. now none. bill: good morning on. >> tuesday. a fox news alert. stunning new revelations on how long the fissions have been warning president obama about isis. he was getting briefings on what they were planning for more than a year. good to see you again. it's been some time. martha: sources are telling fox that the information the president received was strong and granular in detail west it came to the news on isis they gave him. they say there is no way to interpret what he's being told

as anything but bad. bill: you heard about this report, catherine herridge leading on that this morning. what does this indicate to you? >> that the white house is imploding at the intel community for not having the right information on isis. now the intel communities is pointing the finger back at the white house. bill: the white house is saying it was blind side. does this run counts storm that argument? >> it does. and it explained why the president called isis a jv. lawmakers have been getting the briefings as well. bill: maybe we'll hear from them as well.

quote, we were ready to fire on a moment's notice. 200 targets were located. no order was given. >> it plays into the narrative that this white house has been too cautious on foreign policy. this white house says the last white house was too aggressive. but it does play into that narrative that the administration has been tentative and there haven't been any bold actions, at least not yet. >> the president reads the brief unlike predecessors who would only get a summary. does that tell you anything? >> that shows this president says i'm going to be a hand on president. i'll read the actual document. but on the other handle if he doesn't see something, he can't blame staff on it because he said he's reading it himself and not getting briefed like prior

presidents by staff. bill: how many members much congress are privy to the the same information as the president? >> not many. the key committees, the intel committees on the house and the senate side as well as leadership, it's a closed community. they can't say what they have seen. but overall they are going to be asked questions when they get back in town next week. >> you are talking four people, maybe 6? thank you, bob. martha? martha: the white house is still work on its strategy for isis. even as we learned the president was warned about this group long before necessity arrived in iraq and syria. what packs does the president need to take now. we have a great panel that will look at his options. the decision to read the brief and not to be briefed on it. it doesn't allow you the opportunity to go back and forth

with questions. ask those at the pentagon and intel sources why they put that in the brief, what their concerns are. >> you have got all these european leaders meeting today to talk about this and a lot more. it will be on the agenda, priority number one. martha: we are getting word 6 terrorists were killed in a drone strike on al-shabab. the terrorists who carried out the mall killing in kenya. the groups leader is suspected to be among them. david cam ran is pushing for tough new laws to combat terror and to stop jihadists from reentering england.

>> the fact that someone can go to syria, declare jihad, then return to britain after declaring their allegiance with another state. that's the problem we need to address. martha: let's go to the drone strike first on al-shabab. do we know who was taken out in this? >> in the last few minutes we have been getting details from members of al-shabab. they are saying their spiritual leader was in one of two vehicles that was hit but we don't know if he was one of the six people they say was killed in the strike that locals are saying sounded like an earthquake. they don't know if the leader was one of them. it happens in the sablale

district south of going of doa . all the pentagon would say is quote u.s. military forces conducted an operation in somalia against the al-shabab network. we'll provide additional information as and when appropriate. early reports on the ground are islamic militants started rounding up and arresting locals trying to figure out who was spying for the american military. martha: let's switch back to this david cameron story. he's taking sentence to beef up

security. report rrp he wants to pull the passports of any british citizen who may be trying to go and join isis. and he says he wants to urgently find and fight isis sea broad. >> we must use all the resources at our disposal. our aid, diplomacy and military. '. >> reporter: he will meet with the leaders of other nato nations including president obama later this week at a summit in wales. bill: the president make an election year push on the economy blaming republicans for block an increase in minimum wage and other reforms. >> america is stronger because of decisions we made to rescue our economy and rebuild it on a

new foundation asking simple question, is this good for ordinary americans. is this good for working people? bill: what is behind this? stu varney is here, host of stuart and company. the president kicked off this pivot with his speech in' milwaukee. he will shift his folk touts complete and the performance of the economy. he says the economy is performing strongly and this fits in with this week's push for higher minimum wage. you are going to see a push in 150 locations across the country for a higher minimum wage at fast food operations. you have probably seen some civil disobedience and sit-ins.

these two gel together. a push for a higher minimum wage. bill: you are 60 days away from the mid-term, is that at winning issue now? >> reporter: it's a risky pivot. a lot of the new jobs which have been created low wage and part-time jobs and the middle class is shrinking and no longer feels it is the middle class. i have got a poll come out recently. in 2008, 72% of those polls said we are either middle or upper class. it's come all the way down to 57% as of right now. that's a stunning decline in the number of people who perceive themselves to be part of middle america. if you campaign on the issue of i did this, i have got a strong economy, come out and vote for me some more, you are on shaky ground. bill: what are the other issues? you have got foreign policy.

you know, you have got obamacare, too. >> reporter: i think to some degree the president is in a corner. it's very difficult to campaign on the success of obamacare. much better to go out there and say, the economy is recovering, we have got to keep these policies in place. to some degree he pushed into this rather risky, pivotal corner. bill: it's remarkable poll you showed. almost 3/4 of americans think the middle class is down. we'll see you at 11:00 a.m. on the fox business network. martha: the search is on for a group of teenagers who escaped from a louisiana detention center. they crawled under a weak spot in the fence in nashville. some were fond overnight but 17

are still on the list. bill: president obama trying to reassure our allies about vladimir putin. he reportedly said russia could take kiev in two weeks' time. martha: report that the' fbi is getting involved in nude pictures of celeb lights on internet. >> the woman behind us started screaming and swearing and a flight attend damage came over and that exacerbated what was going on and she demand that the flight land.

martha: we are back with big weather out there. the fourth named tropical storm is taking shape in the gulf of mexico. dolly is expected to train then before making landfall near tampico, mexico. folks along the south texas coast need to keep a close eye on this storm. bill: there are significant nato meetings and it comes at a

critical time. vladimir putin bragging about how easilysian military could seize the ukrainian capital city of kiev. do you want the quote? if i want, i take kiev in two weeks. why is he talking this way. >> that's vladimir putin, former kgb agent. his objective remains getting a government in ukraine that's compliant with russian wishes on issues important to moscow. he's doing it militarily in the two eastern provinces of ukraine where the separatists have been fighting and he's pursuing negotiations with ukrainian president petro poroshenko. he makes this comment book ended by a european summit over the weekend that threatened new sanctions and a nato summit that

shows he remains defiant. he thinks he's got the shy cards and he's proceeding politically through the negotiations and militarily. bill: what does wow commander in chief do? he says we have to give the ukrainians a fighting chance to defend themselves. so far i don't see that happening, do you? >> i don't see it happening either though i think senator menendez is right. the economic sanctions imposed on putin have been very weak, they have not changed the direction of his policy. the only real cost to impose on putin is impose casualties on the russians and that will cause russian mothers back in moscow to react as there are some reports they already have been. there are bigger questions as well. president obama travels to estonia before the nato summit

in wales. they will want to know whether the nato guarantee still means something to them. they are very worried about the west's pathetic response in ukraine. >> they are seeing how the ukrainians pull this off and there are reports russian troops are going further into southeastern ukraine and helping turn the tide on behalf of the separatists to win territory. is there a legitimate threat in the balance particulars that russia can make a move there? >> that many the $64 question. there have been cyber attacks on the baltic republics in the last self years. they think they were directed by moscow. i think vladimir putin sees the weakness of the west in response

top ukraine would leave the new members of nato feeling particularly vulnerable. i don't think he predicted this nato weakness but i think he clearly sees it now. bill: i don't know how much' putin cares and how much the russians care either. he's starting to make them feel good about being russian again. now you have got nato that wants to get this strike readiness action plan in place. is that a strike force, that nato would implement? what is that? >> let me address the question of sanctions. we p they have had some effect on russia but they have not dissuaded putin from following the course he's following. at the same time the ukrainian currency in the past 10 days has reached an historic low against

the dollar and its economy is close to implosion. not surprisingly because going back to soviet days the ukrainian-russian economics were closely tied together. i'm not sure how much more success on sanctions ukraine can bear. bill: we'll see what message nato has and we'll see what message the president has. >> it's a big story for this morning. the feds are on the case after a massive hack attack leaking news photos of some of hollywood's hottest stars. think about this. are your private pictures safe' online? probably not. bill: a volcano roaring to life. r accounting firm's mobile plan. and "minus" our expenses. perfect timing. we're offering our best-ever pricing on mobile plans for business.

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bill: lava and smoke pouring from a volcano in iceland. so far no ash which is what the travel industry is watching. they don't want a repeat of the mayhem caused four years ago when 100,000 flights had to be canceled. martha: the fbi is looking into this hack attack targeting hollywood a-listers like jennifer lawrence and others. they are trying to find out if a glitch in apple's iphone service allowed hackers to steal racy photos and post them online. how do they think this happened? >> reporter: it wasn't the work of one man but several. the hackers waited until they accumulated pictures of 100

celebrities before they released them online. the takeaway, if you ever thought your iphone photos were safe and secure, they are not as jennifer lawyer found out. the pictures posted on 4 chance by the hacker are of her. 4chan is known as the dark corner of the web where 7 million users share outrageous material and pornography anonymous live. material censored anywhere else. they pen trap ited the supposely secure icloud by going through a portal used when a person loses their phone.

it's where users store, share and backup material. most users when they take a selfie assume the phone i secur, clearly it's not. >> maybe it's a stolen password. it could also be that the icloud service was hacked into as a service. >> reporter: both the fbi and apple are investigating. martha: this isn't the first time we have seen something like this happen. >> reporter: a single photo of a celebrity naked can get you $50,000. a federal judge sentenced one hacker to 10 years in prison. another guy got 3 years for stealing credit card info.

the simple solution, don't take compromising pictures of yourself if you are a celebrity. martha: what a good idea. we tell kids all the time, don't post anything online because it's never safe and you can't consider anything private. these intelligent hollywood actors and actresses have not figured that out? don't you think that's unbelievable? bill: i think the polaroid is a good idea. an unruly passenger gets her wishing after another flight diverted add a quote passenger disruption. what's going none the sky. martha: president obama get ready for a big nato summit, surprising information about just how long the white house knew about the growing threat of isis and why there is still no

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martha: a pentagon official saying president obama was warned about the growing isis threat for at least a year before they moved over to iraq. this new information comes as british prime minister david cameron pushes for tough new laws combating terrorism in england. charles krauthammer says he believes there is a problem. >> dealing with isis with diplomacy and economic sanctions have no place whatsoever. the example isn't cameron, it's george h.w. bush.

what did he do? he said of the invasion of kuwait with this will nothand stand and a coalition formed behind him. obama says i have no plans and he expects the muslim world to rally behind him? martha: joining us is bob beckel and rich lowry. let's start with this new information. the president was briefed, the presidential daily briefing on isis according to a former pentagon official with an understanding of these briefings. for over a year. and yet this is what we have heard from the president on this. let's play this. >> there is no doubt that their advance, their movement over the last several months has been more rapid than the intelligence estimates and i think the expectations of policy makers

both in and out -- outside of iraq. martha: there the president seemed to suggest he wasn't getting intel that alluded to the seriousness of this. >> i think what he said was no one gave him information on how rapidly they were going to organize and move. that was not involved in the intelligence briefing from what i can tell. i'm doubtful about someone saying in the intelligence community yes we identified this community. the question is did the briefing say they were going to reorganize in iraq and start taking territory, that we don't know. marcmartha: the former intellige official says the data was graphic and detail and you could not come away with any other impression other than this is

getting bad. >> the institute of the studied of war for two years has had are you seen updates on this threat. i think it was a surprise how quickly they organized and took mosul but not surprised they are gaining ground rapidly in iraq this goes to how serious the president takes this. the last thing wants to do is have anything to do with iraq and syria so he turned the other way. martha: these daily presidential briefings. the president takes them personally. according to this report president obama just gets handout and prefers to read it on his own. >> it's unusual. when i was doing this for the president he got a briefing on it. i don't know what granular

means. but rich says care? of course he cared. the question is did he want to be back in iraq? no. did he want to be in syria? no. was this a president trying to get out of that region, yes? is it consistent with what he has done? not really. but there is an element of surprise. i think there is a vast overstatement their abilities. they have been pushed out of two towns. finally when the kurds are given weapons you will you will find out these guys are not nearly as powerful. >> we did hear some of that a while back. that does lean up with what the president said. he said maybe people are overestimating this threat a little bit. i do want to get to david cameron. a very stark could be tras from what we saw from him over the weekend and the president's strength of rhetoric.

>> it's not just a contrast again barack obama and david cameron whose hair was on fire over these. listen to chuck hagel and general dempsey and their hair is also on fire. the president has more of bob's view, this is maybe a regional threat but it's not a threat to the homeland. i think he's wrong about that. not that's -- it's hard for anyone ever to admit they are wrong, especially the most powerful person in the world. but he has to admit he was wrong, his possible policy of passivity created the format for this catastrophe. >> cameron was dealing with a guy who identified and said he killed the journalists. cameron does not have to commit the troops and weapons and money we where have to do to do that. i give cameron a lot of credit.

he has a parliamentary system. good for him. i doubt we could get that through this congress. martha: we could be dealing with the threalt of attack here or in europe. do you agree with that? >> there is always the potential. martha: would you like to see this president talk about pulling passports of suspects, david cameron was very specific in the changes he wants to institute because he what he believe is an imminent threat. >> i would like to see that as part of a comprehensive immigration bill. we have the most radical of the radical is lambists in one place. they have left their home countries and gone in to fight. >> you are talking out both sides your mouths. you are saying they are not such a threat now you are saying these dangerous people in one place with a lot of money and a lot of territory. >> i didn't say that. and the question is, where obama

and i differ on this, obama thinks this is reentering the war in iraq. i think it's entering a war against somebody who has threatened the west. martha: thanks very much, guy. bill: 22 minutes before the hour. syrian rebels and government troops take their fight closer to the border with israel. watch here. the two sides battling today in the golan heights where died-backed militants kidnapped dozen of peacekeepers just a week ago. con yoorp powell is there. how close is the fighting getting in that area. >> reporter: just behind me in an israeli border crossin crosse have been intense battles the past few days between various

factions of the free syrian army and the pro-assad military. the area was controlled by assad's army, now it's controlled by the pre-airan army. as the free-syrian army has taken control of that area other groups have tried to move in. an died-affiliated group have taken over parts of that area. they kidnapped 45 u.n. peacekeepers from the island nation of fiji. bill, it seems impossible for it to be removed from any terror watchlist considering they are still kidnapping people in syria and other parts of the country. bill: inside syria how much can

we report about how the fighting has intensified inside that country? >> reporter: just in the last few days we have seen a major pattle being fought around damascus. the neighborhood of jobar which is a significant rebel strong hold has been seen heavy nighing as pro assad drooms try to move into that area. if the syrian military can control this neighborhood and take it away from the free-syrian rebels they will control almost all of damascus. it's a key battle and one that's raging the past two or three days. what happens there will largely determine what happens around damascus, bill. martha: let's take a look at the market action so far on this tuesday, the official beginning of fall even though it's not here yet.

futures were ahead on manufacturing construction reports after the s & p closed out with is best month since february on better than expected company earnings news and mixed reports on the economy. we'll keep anine on all that action. reporter: three americans asking the up s. to help security their freedom. why is the government in pyongyang putting them in front of the cameras now? general jack keane on the timing of all this. martha: that's food workers taking their fight for minimum wage to a whole new level. what they are planning to do across the country and what it means for your big mac when we come back.

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martha: rock bands mourning the loss of former survivor front man jamie maim on. he was the leader of survivor during the late 80ss. he released david becker. >> from north korea significant nalg malling it might be ready for direct negotiations over three americans paraded in front of the media yesterday. jeffrey fowle, matthew admiral and kenneth bae all. good morning to you. you know how reclusive this country and this leader and government is. you have to think these families

have been look for news on their loved ones. now they have kind of sort of. he has tang the initiative which has not been what's occurred in the past and exposing them to the media and letting them speak their mind. he's always looking for leverage. it appears he wants to go back to negotiations with the-party talks. he's always flying a domestic audience. he gets back on the stage with some prominent americans coming pick up the three american captives. when you speculate about this a little bit, you are absolutely right. this is a closed regime. it's hard to understand what's taken place. but i think he knows the united states is confronting a major crisis in the world and

beleaguered give the expansion of radical islam. isis establishing the islamic state. hamas, israel. the expansion of russia into the ukraine. china's assertiveness. these are huge crises. and the president is not getting high marks. bill: his play is to get attention. none of it is going north korea's way. that way he gets back in the headlines. >> that will help him with his own domestic consumption to have that interchange with a prominent american and put him on the world stage. i also think he thinks it's a good time for leverage with the united states. that will give him the opportunity to get more out of these talks than what he normally would. bill: the sister of kenneth bae

he it's clear he's under stress. he's been there for almost two years and it's devastating for a family to see that on tv. some suggest he's much more difficult to read. do you agree and if so why? >> the north korean analysts who work this of day know for a fact he's more reclusive than his grandfather and father. and i think he's under the influence quite a bit of his advisors much more so than what the two former leaders were. and certainly to the family member crying out about kenneth bae, he's in a hard labor cam. the other two are being held in a hotel with a guard. the hard labor cam is just as those words imply. it's hard labor most of the day

in terms of hours. you cannot help but have deteriorating health under circumstances like that. bill: one more question. up say they think they may be willing to make a deal now? what will we give them? >> i don't think we'll give them much. it may be some economic concessions. our concerns with korea is an expanding nuclear program we want to be reduced and, two, the proliferation of that program to other countries. it's widely known they are building a plutonium nuclear capability for iran and the selling of ballistic missiles to other countries. all that said, north korea it's unlikely would ever give up their nuclear weapons. nuclear weapons guarantees the preservation of the regime, the very same reason iran wants nuclear weapons.

bill: jeffrey fowle, matthew miller, and kenneth bae. thank you very much. it's great to be back, general, thank you. martha: a mid-air disturbans forcing another emergency landing. bill: and we are learning more about the drone strike targeting a somali.

bill: powerful storms rolling through the grand rapid, michigan area. a homeowner was opinioned down inside. the victim later rushed to the

hospital. martha: another flight was diverted because of an unruly passenger. last night's flight is the third this happened on over the past few weeks. a delta airlines flight, a passenger demanded the plane land over a fight over the seat reclining. so what happened this time? >> reporter: another day, another heated exchange high in the sky. the dispute was over space and the right to recline according to witnesses. what makes this mid-air scuffle different from the last few ones we have seen is one of these fighting passengers insisted the flight be diverted to the next stop. >> she started swearing at the

flight attendants and demanding the flight land. the flight attendants spoke with the captain while somebody was walk her past to the cabin. a few minutes later an announcement came on that we were diverting to jacksonville. >> reporter: delta airlines said out of an abundance of caution the captain diverted to the closest airport. local law enforcement met the flight for the' offending passenger. the woman reportedly said i don't care about the consequences. martha: that's pretty serious offense. what are they going to do about this? view * any interest force with a flight view carries a punishment of 15 years. and the punishment can deep pend

on how unruly the passenger is and if a weapon is involved. bill: put you are your chair, mccallum. martha: the airlines need a recline that only goes back a few inches and stops. traveling on planes is like taking a cross-town bus. i asked people on twitter. parachutes have been suggested as another option for these people. calm down and let's all get to our destination. bill: more peanuts. new information about how long the president knew about isis. martha: the fbi is getting involved in this hacking scandal. this is a dark serious story about what's going on in

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or you are ready for retirement, we'll help you get there. martha: we have new details on what the president learned about isis and how long he has known about the threat this group clearly poses. a former pentagon official is quoted saying the president has been getting daily briefings on this group for at least a year. a brand-new hour of "america's newsroom" starts now. i'm martha maccallum. bill: i'm bill hemmer. isis targets were identified, many as many as 100. catherine herridge broke this story. what more have you learned? >> reporter: a former pentagon official described the intelligence to fox news contained in the daily brief as

specific in detail. adding there was only one conclusion that could be drawn by policy makers, that the situation was bad. after the white house said it was blindsided by isis, the former intelligence official said a couple hundred targets are rewere identified after the president drew the red line. >> it presents fewer options. three years ago we've had good options in syria and how to stop their pooling in the east and going into iraq. two years ago we had not great options. today our options are far more limited and far more dangerous and will call for far more engagement. >> reporter: fox news asked a

spokeswoman from the national security council for a response. bill: what about the suggestion that the rescue of james foley was delayed. >> reporter: the mission to rescue journalist james foley was delayed by pass much as 3 some days. the former pentagon official confirms the white house was hesitant and asked for the intelligence to be built up more. they were told the large heavily armed compound was identified near the is very stronghold of raka, syria. when we get a response we'll bring it to you. bill: many argued is * blind sided the administration, no one saw it coming. does this report reinforce that or contradict that? >> reporter: i'm hearing consistently from people within the military intelligence community who say the threat was understood and the data was identified several years ago

because isis took a systematic approach to its buildup in iraq. it was not something that happened suddenly which seemed to be the suggestion by the administration. >> big news today, the u.s. has taken military action in somalia targeting fighters of the al-shabab network. an american drone reportedly launched hellfire missiles. national security corresponds yenlt jennifer griffin live at the pentagon. who is the target of this u.s. attack? report rrp a seen yoimplet s. defense official tells -- >> reporter: a senior u.s. officials says the target was a leader of al-shabab. he has trained hundreds of

allied fighters at training bases inside somalia. he was traveling in one of two vehicles struck by a u.s. drone. he has been the target of on the iru.s. assassination attempts but this time they believe they got their man. he's believed to be the mastermind of the somalia mall bombing. martha: what does the administration say about how this was carried out. reporter: no u.s. special operations teams were sent to carry out the attack. no american boots on the ground. the airstrike was conducted using an unmanned drone which fires hellfire missiles. the pentagon released the following statement from press secretary reared a smirl john kirby. u.s. forces conducted an operation in somalia. we are assessing the results of the operation and will provide additional information as and

when appropriate. as of right now u.s. officials say they are confident he was killed. '. they will look for dna evidence from the site and information from it followers. martha: we'll look for those signs to confirm. bill: what is al-shabab? it was first declared a terrorist organization in 2008. it has close ties to al qaeda senior leaders. shahab's attacks are largely focused within somalia but also carried out attacks in other trin countries including the siege inside the mall in kenya that killed 67 people just a year ago. martha: pete, what do you make

of this report that catherine herridge gave us this morning that the president had pen briefed in the presidential daily briefing which all people receive every day about isis for more than a year? >> it's not surprising. this has been news even in open source that isis in iraq and syria has developing its capabilities. but the situation on the ground in syria and iraq even through those presidential daily briefings was likely mixed. the al qaeda h element in syria declared a war against al-baghdadi. militarily foreign fighters defected to isis and isis was able to project into walk and that happened quickly in may and june.

i have been critical of this president in his lack of strategy. but i believe there was probably a lot of conflicting information through the daily presidential briefings. martha: what about the reports that the president received specific information for hundreds of targets when he was considering that with a red line drawn after chemical weapons attacks in syria? >> that doesn't surprise me. you just talked about somalia. it's a great example of doing counter terrorism right. there is no outrage in america. u.s. involvement in somalia because we have been careful about it and worked with partners through special operators. the same company have been done in syria and iraq once we knew the targets if we had been willing to be decisive. but after the red line and we chose to do nothing, we are seeing there was a seize-up of

activity. they weren't sure what to do. those torg ets go away very quickly. indecision at the presidential level leads to that information not being actionable. martha: the information has to do with james foley and whether we could have acted sooner in that situation. this same official who is the source, the former pentagon official, the source for this story says he described a white house racked with hesitancy and continually asking for quote the intelligence to build up more. >> you always wants more intelligence. someone who has been on the ground planning more conventional operations. you always want a better picture, a better sense. the reporting that came out talks about the fact there were likely armed men guarding him in aleppo. the problem is when there are armed men in a compound that's going to mean u.s. boots on the

ground because you want to bring james foley home. but there are a lot of complications. what if it doesn't go well and who takes the blame for that. they knew where he was but necessity knew it wasn't an open and shut case. in that case you have got to be willing to stand in front of the american people if it goes poorly and say here is what mapped and why it happened and stand by that decision. martha: pete, thank you so much. will .bill: the president talkis on labor day pushing for a higher minimum wage. >> there is no denying a simple truth, america deserves a raise. bill: the massive protest and civil disobedience that is planned. martha: the unaccompanied kids that came across the border are still here today. now it's time for the kids to go to school. how much is that going to cost

the local communities and who will pay. bill: the latest on the search and listen to this 911 call. >> we are here at the river. ' my brother just drowned he's across the rough and i don't know what to do.

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along the great miami river in southwestern ohio when he fell in. there are depths of the river that are extremely deep that we can't just search and walk out on. so that's kind of our dilemma is getting the right equipment in there. bill: the boy is 8-10 years old, fishing with his family at the time. a two-mile stretch into the rough, the search shifting from a rescue to recovery. martha: fast food workers across the nation plan to walk off the job this thursday. there are a total of 3.5 million fast food workers in the united states who make an average hourly wage of $9.13. earning anage salary of $19,000

a year and 70% of them have at least a high school degree. what to make of this situation? lou dobbs is with us. it will be tough to get a big mac tomorrow or thursday. >> i don't think that's necessarily the case, much to everyone's relief. we saw back in may what happened when the service employees union called a similar action. a handful of people walked out. there was almost no disruption what so at any fast food chain. and this is really if you will proselytizing on behalf of the democratic party than it is honestly a labor action. these folks understand that $15 is unrealistic. they would acknowledge that in their heart of hearts. but as a matter of politics the president even weighing in

yesterday, talking about, i would join a union. well, he's again on the wrong side of history because people aren't joining the union and this is a desperate move to give the democrats some sort of impetus for voters to get to the polls. >> there is a national movement going on made up of fast food workers organizing to lift wages. wages. so they can provide for their families with pride and dignity. there is no denying a simple truth, america deserves a raise. folks are doing were veil on wall street. they are doing well in the corporate board rooms. give america a raise. martha: we know that the unions are having a tough time. the membership is down, down, down and this this part an evident to rally union members. >> reporter: it's an evident to try to get democrats joined

up to get to the polls. but the folks he's trying to appeal to aren't likely to vote so it's a very uphill battle. it shows what a desperate situation he's in. half of the people are 22 years of age or younger. it's a transition job. and the turnover is nearly twice that of the national average in business, the number of employees who quit. summer job. for many of them it's their first, second job. not to mention the fact that if you were to raise their income to $15 an hour no doubt these fast food companies would mind find ways to work with half the number of emexplosiveees. >> reporter: they are hiring even more part time employees rather than putting people on 40-hour shifts. now comes the president, the

congressional budget office says raising it to $15 an hour which by the way there is not a state in the union that has shah minimum wage. even knew that. it would just be devastating. the congressional budget office says half a million jobs would be lost. they say a million workers would be lifted out of the poverty line. but the reality is what does it -- what's the difference if you are eliminating entire jobs? martha: as we said, the real minimum wage appears like it's $9.25. >> if you could legislate wages the government would be loaght lating all wages. why just these folks. why not decide what the wages are for ceos. he wants to use that as class warfare. it rings hollow. i don't think there is a chance in the world this will appeal to the president's or the

democratic party's base. i think he's in trouble come november. martha: you can get your burger king thursday. bill: the fbi on the case of the hollywood hack attack. nude pictures of famous celebrities stolen and put online. how safe is your personal information? martha: a scare in the air, one passenger said their plane felt like it was falling out of the sky. and they are sharing their story. >> we were up about 30,000 feet when they dropped the air masks. >masks..

martha: this is scary. we're getting new reaction from passengers on board an allegiant

airlines flight from michigan to florida. they were forced to make an emergency landing after problems with the cabin's plane pressure. good thing they listened to the stewardess explain that at the beginning of flight. they knew exactly what to do when something was wrong. listen. >> when our ears started popping and sensation we were going down pretty fast. >> they made the announcement to put them on so we put them on and then about three minutes later we were able to breathe normally again. so it was pretty scary for a little bit. martha: she is a lot calmer than i would have been. the oxygen masks came down without a problem. nobody on board was injured. allegiant airlines paid for hotel room for everyone on board, flew in a new plane, thank you very much, to finish that flight. my gosh. bill: we're exactly two months before the election day 2014. the action as you know is in congress specifically the senate. here is your balance of power right now 60 days out.

democrats at 53, two independents who vote with democrats so you're at 55. the republican magic number for november is six, if they pick up six seats, they take that 5-seat majority. here is one race getting attention. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell in kentucky in a tough race with secretary of state alison grimes. we're watching that one. carl cameron in somerset, kentucky. 60 days out, what is the state of that race? >> reporter: good morning, bill. allisonalison lundergan grimes e democrat they want most to win knocking off republican, because that republican incumbent is none otherother than than mitch mcconnell from u.s. senate who would go to the minority leader to the majority leader if the republicans get six seats. this is a very tough race. president obama is exceedingly unpopular in the red state of kentucky. mr. mcconnell is doing everything he possibly can to

tie allison lundergan grimes to the president. while grimes is arguing that republicans are part of on instruction problem in washington and mitch mcconnell is there for five terms and seeking sixth and time for him to go. we saw her at labor day picnic and she came out immediately against mcconnell. listen. >> he promises further gridlock and not slightest thought to vote increasing minimum wage or extending unemployment benefits or actually making sure college is affordable. >> reporter: polls show a neck-and-neck race for the most part. most of the analysts consider this a toss-up. it is one of, likely perhaps to be the most expensive race not just this year but perhaps in history. the record goes $82 million. that was elizabeth warren in massachusetts a few years back. this one right now is at least 35 million and counting t could even top 100 by the time it is all done. bill: a lot of kentucky coal, my friend. what are the main issues in the

bluegrass state, carl? >> reporter: well, this has been criticized, this midterm with not a lot of actual issues specific and republicans and mr. mcconnell are trying to make this about the obama agenda, saying it is liberal and wrong for america. democrats are arguing that republicans are obstructionist. they're attacking conservative social values that is war on woman. that is something allison lundgeran grimes is playing up because obviously a woman. she is daughter of two a term republican, jerry lund der grand. mcconnell is arguing that the president's agenda is terrible that the idea of war on women is cutting against him is little dangerous territory for miss grimes. in the legislature as secretary of state at the capital, he she was around where three state legislative staffers accuse ad democratic state law i can maker of groping and investigation weren't on for a long time. there was criticism that mrs. grimes didn't stand up for

victims enough. these things created problems the fact that her father, former democratic party chairman here rented her campaign a bus at a little bit under free market value and mitch mcconnell is hammering her for that. listen. >> grimes is renting a tour bus from her father's company for less than fair market value. that would be a violation of campaign finance laws. questions swirling whether her campaign getting an illegal sweetheart deal. >> reporter: so it is basically tied. millions and millions of dollars being spent here. it's a nasty battle. the issues are not at the top of everybody's mind, personal attacks are. there are 60 days left of it in one of the most important races in the whole country. bill: great to have you there, carl. somerset, kentucky, carl cameron. >> reporter: you bet. martha: schools are facing very expensive challenge as classes get underway. massive number of illegal alien children who are crossing border are looking for education and

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country and what states they went to so we have a pretty good cost to educate them for one year. according to federation immigration reform and obtained first by fox news the tab will be $761 million for this school year alone. state and local boughts pay 90% of that. we're hearing about calls from arizona and miami-dade county and florida for the federal government to pay the full costs since it has been so slow to hear the asylum deportation cases. >> unchecked, unregulated immigration is increasing costs and reducing quality in american classrooms. that should be an alarm bell to every mom and dad across the country who has a kid in k-12. >> reporter: studies show it costs twice as much to educate a kid new to the country who speaks no english than the average american student, martha. martha: how are the districts who are cash-strapped, how will they handle it? >> there will be tough there. is shortage of bilingual

teachers. that got a lot worse. school you budgets were cut across the country since the recession. 35 states are still spending less per student than 2008. another report says average age of k-12 school bidding in the country are 44 years. half are in need of repairs. immigration rights groups says the country has the obligation to educate these kid and money should not be a problem. >> we're one of the wealthiest countries in the world. we should be able to handle this to focus energy and resources and make sure kids are treated well and treated way we in america believe kids should be treated. >> reporter: 37 unaccompanied minors crossed into the country mainly from central america. now they're coming to a school near year you. martha. martha: dan, thank you very much. bill: we'll pick up debate, david webb, siriusxm patriot radio talk show host and leslie marshall. talk show host. both are fox news contributors.

700 million for education. other expenses like health care and what else comes doesn't line. david, what to do? >> well, bill, first of all the liberal elitist were pushing this policy, barack obama and his supporters. they don't have these kids in their schools. this is partly a socioeconomic issue. these children will end up in poorer schools, typically in already really stressed neighborhoods. and dan springer talked about. it is both a cost and a resource issue. so they pushed the policy and america you get it. they will have to hit the property tax owners eventually. that is the funding model for schools all across the country. the money has to come from somewhere. for those of you who own homes that own condos, you will pay for it. bill: you will pay in states like new york and texas and florida and, leslie, your state of california. as dan just pointed out. those are the states hit the hardest. what to do? >> well, quite frankly i don't have a problem with the federal government, i mean, chipping in. 90% for the states is a heavy

burden. i live in california and david is living in one of the other states, new york, i don't have a problem with paying more and here's why. these chilen are children. many of them don't even know that they have broken the law. these children are in backlogs up to four years, that could be changed by the federal government, by congress. this is not about liberal elitists. this is about abiding laws on the book that could be changed from 2008, that legislation could be changed and more money could be put into the system so that there are more judges hired so the children can be gone through the system quicker. bill: leslie, you're willing to pay more money, right? >> absolutely. bill: where does it stop? >> well, again, you have to look at the laws on the books and change them. the reason these children have to wait four years, we don't have enough judges and others in the system right now. in addition to that, these are not children coming from border states. maybe that needs to be changed in the legislation. and congress, not liberal elite

lifts, congress, both left and right in the house and senate, they have the power to change this and they're not doing it. >> leslie so wrong. >> what do we do? i don't mind devil's workshop. i rather be in school. >> you're not answering question, where does it come from. bill: the question was where does it stop? where does it end? david, have a chance to ask this, you have to ask what is fair? what is fair to the taxpayer? what is fair to the teachers? what is fair to the kids? >> what's fair to the people who have to pay for this including by the way, bill, the question you asked where does it stop? where does it start? the federal government doesn't have money. taxpayers have money. government taxes away. that could be used for other things, oh, veterans and other issues. where does it stop? it doesn't stop. leslie is wrong. judges are not being housed in a warehouse to pull them out to put them to work. the system is not ready for this. we go back to resources. these people have to be fed has

to be bought. bus to school, buss are already full. so the american people will pay the costs, for the obama policies of open borders and those that support it. bill: leslie? >> we have had open borders since the inception of this country. there is a beautiful lady sitting close, standing closer in a harbor to you than i, david. that hasn't changed. >> that is not this issue. you're deflecting. come on. you're deflecting the real issue. >> david, i love you but you're killing me here. six of the children that were deported to the murder capital of world, honduras, were murdered. costs to deport children. costs to detain them. and costs to educate them. so where do we put the money? where do we get the money? same question whether you're deported or they're detained or educated. >> here is the problem, leslie is right about this -- bill: make it quick, david. we got to run.

her point about congress acting or not acting is a well-taken. go ahead. >> wilberforce act needs to be dealt with, she is right about that. the problem the obama administration used this to advance their goal of balkanizing this country, the problem stays and never gets resolved and all about votes in november. bill: thank you, leslie marshall and david webb here in new york city. thanks to both. >> the fbi says, quote, addressing, not quite investigating yet, the case after nude celebrity photograph hack. how does that work? if these pictures are not safe what about your bank account? what about all the other information you have out there? plus there is this. bill: folks, he did it again, martha. alec baldwin. he has yet to meet a camera he didn't like, right? or a police officer. what mr. baldwin is up to now. >> behind you.

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bill: alec baldwin had a small, blowup, small for the actor anyway. watch here. [siren] >> you don't know me. >> alec. bill: so that video from tmz.com. apparently baldwin and his wife and daughter were at the park in the hamptons. witnesses say the photographer was getting too close for comfort. baldwin was pushing the photographer. had him in a head lock. that's when police showed up. the photographer in the end, said, no, we're cool. we're all good. did not press charges. so there you go. that is how that story ended. martha: that is one celebrity story. here is the another. fbi said it will address a massive hack that leaked nude photos of more than a dozen a-list celebrities, half dozen, including academy award winning actress jennifer lawrence and

model actress kate upton. raising new concerns about the security of private internet accounts like apple's icloud. we have a internet security expert. dan schorr is former prosecutor and associate managing director at kroll. good to have you here. first thing that props in my mind, why do they take naked photographs of themselves and put them on the phone or icloud or anywhere else. i don't know that is the issue but probably not a good idea. >> we can't blame the vick tis this is total misunderstanding of technology. a lot of people don't realize what they take on the phone is actually being moved up to a cloud. so when they delete it off the phone, it is sitting up there. since they don't know it is there, it sits there forever. total misunderstanding that this device i have connects me to the world but the world is connected to you. martha: how do you get it to go away on cloud? >> you have to first of all know it is there, log in and delete it off there. if gets caught up in their backup tapes, there is a lot of

going on. don't put different types of pictures or private content on device. martha: that is nice way of putting it. don't put naked pictures of yourself on internet, people. so dumb. you say don't blame the victim. dan, legally, what kind of recourse do they have? you put it out there. isn't it kind of, buyer beware so to speak? >> out there what is supposed to be a private setting. even though shared for apple, can have access to it you have this cloud it is not supposed to be there for the public. not like putting on your own website or blog or twitter. private information, private photos. there are civil consequences and criminal consequences. we saw a similar hack a couple years ago that led to 10-year prison term for at least one individual. it is important that prosecutors and police and fbi investigate this and do whatever they can to prosecute whoever did this. >> don't mess around. this is a, a it is a federal crime, correct? >> yes. >> what should people do? pretend like we don't know how

all this works which we don't, by the way, right, everybody? how can people get control of their information. nude pictures aside, real stuff, bank accounts, all of that? >> well, most places offer what is called two factor authentication. apple offers it, some people don't implement it. log in with user name and password. brought to different queen and ask for five-digit code. when they do that the cell phone in your back pocket, apple sends a five digit code to that cell phone and only people who have your cell phone will be able to get access to that. you can try all day and night with user name password. not going anywhere without the additional code, five or six digits, whatever it is. martha: how do you get that on the phone? >> you preset this up with apple. they know your cell phone. you log in. we used this on our servers. it's a great technology. there are different types of two-factor authentication. some have little devices with the numbers changing every 30 seconds. this is great thing. we can't blame apple.

they're doing a great job on securing people. they have a great track record, right, for security? martha: i guess. >> they do. they do. i know they're on top of this. we're not even sure where this hack occurred yet. we have to wait for the investigation to unfold. but they have to implement security available to them and they're not doing that in some cases. martha: jennifer lawrence, her folks said, downloading this, we will prosecute you if you download these pictures. how tough is it to find those people, dan? >> well, it is tough and doable. this was done a couple years ago with scarlett johansson's photos where someone was found and caught. kind of tracking of one individual who is now denying he was responsible but there is internet evidence that an individual might have been responsible. people can track down these individuals. it is tough. it is going to take a lot of hearthard work by experts. people who did it will probably not get away with it. martha: goes back to the fortune a hub of people doing these things, getting these people -- >> who stole them, how did they do it? martha: fortune is also

responsible, are they not. >> they're putting content on which is stolen content. they are responsible also. there is civil and possible criminal liability for them. this private property of celebrities. important not to celebrities even though it might have been careless. they are victims after crime. important not to blame them. martha: easy way to avoid being victim after crime and a, not to take the pictures and b, not to put them anywhere. >> i was sex crimes prosecutor, a lot of people make error in judgment are victim after sex crime. doesn't mean it is their fault. maybe they take more careful steps not to take photos or secure them better but they are victims of a serious crime. martha: no doubt you would tell your kids don't ever take a picture of yourself? >> absolutely. could be our banking information we keep online, all of sudden becomes available. does that mean we're at fault? no. people have to do the right thing going forward. they have to do things like use strong passwords. stop click on things. a lot of times can install

something on computer, that sends key logger. that information will go out to hacker. martha: ridiculous how much time and effort this all takes, that we're all aa part of this special media world. thank you, gentlemen. bill: general motors wants to cut down on dangerous, distracted driving. how the carmaker could help you keep your eyes on the road behind the wheel. ♪

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bill: president obama headed for estonia today, trying to reassure nato allies as russia gets more and mosh aggressive in ukraine. we'll go in depth on "happening now." the criticism the president is getting from

both sides of the aisle over his handling of isis, syria, russia, gaza, libya, the list bows on. new research says not so fast when it comes to breakfast. an update on joan rivers and drink more tea. we'll have medical news on that. another air rage incident over seat reclining in coach. one of our guests says it is time for a consensus on coach seating of the it is all ahead on "happening now." martha: thank you, jon. we get our first look at the brad pitt, angelina jolie wedding and the her wedding dress. the bride graces cover of "people" magazine. she had drawings from her six children sown into the veil which was interesting. meanwhile people reports that pit had a suit from the closet. he so cool he didn't do any preparing. he didn't have a tie. forgot his tie. son let him one of his. magazine hits newsstands tomorrow, folks.

bill: general motors wants you to keep your eyes on the road. the automaker has plans according to inside sources for vehicles with eye and head tracking technology that can tell when you as a driver are distracted. foxnews.com automotive editor with me right now. good morning to you. how does this work? how do they know if you're looking at road, checking rear view mirror or looking at back seat? >> hate to say it is simple but kind of is. much the camera monitors your face, build as map using your eyes and nose, and basically tell if you're looking that way, drooping down and whether or not your eyes are closed. runs through algorithm. determines if you're not paying attention if your eyes are not on the road. sets an alarm to wake you up or catch your attention and autonomous driving systems, self-braking to get you back on line. bill: sensor in the steering wheel? >> dashboard in the gauge cluster or above the windshield looking at your face. bill: you say this is possible.

>> it is possible. a number of automakers working on it for years. earlier this year, ford introduced another project it is working on. another aspect you can do it as xbox kinect, by gesture recognitions. do this in the air to control radio. instead of reaching button or look at something on the dash, i want more air condition. it will turn air-conditioning on. other aspects of this technology. it is all about, the systems to read your face are there. it is all about how you develop algorithms behind it, to figure out what to do. bill: voice activation thing. i think it is good good sometimes. just okay at other times. getting better in time. this would have to have a similar process in order to make it -- >> voice activation is not really ready for prime time yet. some systems work well but this takes it to whole another level. first thing you see the distracted driving thing are eyes on the road. some cars monitor the way you're driving, and if they think you are falling asleep based on

steering inputs they set off an alarm. this takes it to the next level. they recognize who is driving car. if you don't want kids to drive it, won't start the car if you're not sitting in drivers seat. ford is working on system, someone is trying to steal the car, take as picture of them, sends it to the cell phone. bill: this will happen? >> next few years we'll see this technology. bill: remarkable. what about using like old-fashioned rivets on side of the highway? get out of the lane and go, da, da. that works pretty well already. >> it does. this works in all lanes. don't need the sort of thing on every road. bill: two years, three years, earlier than that? >> general motors ordered 500,000 units delivered over next three to five years. if that happens they may be the first one to put it in production. bill: we can't take our ice off the phone, can we. >> no, that is the problem. bill: even though states pass laws you don't text while driving or go hands-free we're still not doing that. >> the cars have so much

technology on the touch-screen. we're it fighting a war against a problem we've created but that is kind of where we are. bill: ford on it. gm on it apparently? >> mercedes, volvo, a lot of companies working on this technology. bill: good stuff. save lives. >> definitely. bill: thank you, gary. martha. martha: thanks, guys. ukraine warning that it may have to fight the russian army in a war costing tens of thousands of lives potentially as president putin puts the world on notice in high-stakes game of geopolitical poker. from whole grain oat foods like cheerios can help lower cholesterol. thank you!

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wait to recover the evidence. bill: kind of gross. other people call that lunch. martha: yeah. bill: just a little bite sizes. martha: waiting for evidence to come out. bill: got to run. great to be back with you. martha: how about we do it tomorrow? bye, everybody. jon: president obama takes off for eastern europe in about two hours. a show of american support for nato countries. this as tensions boil over between russia, ukraine and the rest of europe. welcome to "happening now" on this tuesday. i'm jon scott. >> i'm arthel neville. good to see you and good to see everyone. i'm in for jenna lee. president is heading to estonia, a former soviet state now a member of nato. russian president putin reportedly he says he could take the capital kiev in two weeks if