please remember the spin stops here, because we're always looking out for you. and that includes you, stephen colbert. breaking tonight a horrifying new video of another american journalist being beheaded. adding new urgency to the question, what should the united states be doing about the terrorist army behind this. welcome to the kelly file, everyone. i'm megyn kelly. the story broke a little after 1:00 p.m. eastern time. a video surfaced showing steven sotloff reading a statement under duress, before a hooded terrorist from isis cut off his head. the posting was titled a second message to america. sotloff grew up in miami, decided on a career in journalism and based himself in the middle east, where he filed pieces for "time" magazine and

others. he disappeared a year ago, while reporting from a syrian town, trying to document the barbarism there. he ultimately became a victim of it. this is the second time in as many weeks we have seen an american murdered on camera by this group. the british prime minister has already released a statement calling this a despicable disgusting act. isis is a threat to the british homeland and is implementing a crackdown on extremists. our president has said nothing about the second american to be decapitated by isis. late last week he did announce that we have no strategy for dealing with this group yet. and in the latest twist tonight, the pentagon moments ago, confirming that a new group of a few hundred american soldiers is now headed to baghdad to boost security at our embassy there. just nine days before america remembers the 9/11 terror attacks. ed henry just filed this report from estonia, where president

obama arrived tonight. >> good evening, megyn. the president taking this trip to try to showcase himself on the world stage, but the videotape showing isis beheading a second american journalist. the president stopping here in estonia to send a signal to russn president vladimir putin, because i'm just standing right now about 100 miles from the russian border, later this week the nato allies are going to announce a rapid response team of nato troops that will be stationed here in europe to push back on russian aggression. officials fired back. they'll adjust their strategy accordingly if nato expands. puten in a phone call with the president of the european commission, threatened he'll take kiev within two weeks if he wants to. a sign that putin is sort of shrugging off the president's moves here in this region. bottom line on the videotape as

the president left washington without commenting on this beheading, that's because they're trying to authenticate the videotape. bottom line, the president won't be able to duck questions about this for long, he has a news conference in estonia tomorrow, likely to get questions not just about the videotape. remember that news conference where the president admitted he does not have a strategy to deal with isis military in syria. likely to be pressed on that. >> ed henry, thank you. joining us with more, brit hume. let me start with the broader question of isis and what to do about them. the president famously said not long ago, i was elected to end wars, not to start them, how big a role do you think that is playing in his announcement that we don't yet have a strategy for dealing with this terror army. >> he doesn't have a

comprehensive strategy for dealing with isis as it exists throughout the middle east. not only in iraq, but also in syria where it is based. and, of course, this came after his own military leaders had said that isis could not be defeated without being taken on in syria. we don't have a strategy to do that, and there was no sign at the time that he viewed the task of creating such a strategy or deciding on one with any urgency. this is a man whose vision of the world that he had when he took office has turned out to be a mirage. his own sense of the world and how it would react to him has also turned out to be a mirage. this is a man who told someone i know, when he was running for office, wouldn't it be great for the world if i were president? and i think he truly believed

that the size of the american footprint in the world was a big reason for the troubles we had, and if he were elected with the approach that he took, and with the idea he was going to end the wars, reduce the american footprint, and he would be a breath of fresh air on the world stage our adversaries like iran even russia, would look at him differently and the united states differently. well, they have. they've decided the united states is weak, and it's time for them to go on the march as they have. >> he said this skplis italy, i was going to use the sound bite a little later, yes, we do. i didn't know you were going to say it. take a listen to him in november 2007. >> well, i truly believe that the day i'm inaugurated, not

only will the country look at itself differently, the world looks at america differently. if i'm reaching out to the muslim world, they understand i've lived in the muslim world even though i'm a christian. i think the world will have confidence that i'm listening to them, that will ultimately make us safer. >> that's it, meg megyn, that's what he thought, that's not turned out to be the case, and i think he's now confronted with the world as he thought he knew it is not the world that is. and i don't think he knows what to do, and i think he's a man who turns out to be a slow learner on a number of things and extraordinarily not adaptable. think of bill clinton for example, his party took a bath in 1994, lost control of the house of representatives and he adjusted.

and came back to win a spectacular victory only a couple years later, this president has never really adjusted to the fact that the world has not panned out as he thought it would. he seems incapable. think of this, megyn. an american is murdered in plain view of the world today, all he had to do is add a caveat to any statement he made, if this proves to be real, this is a hideous atrocity, we will not go unavenged something like that, at this hour, the president has not uttered a peep. this is a man who seems not to know what to do next. and the result is, the forces around the world who would like to advance when uncle sam isn't active in the world, they're taking advantage. >> he's taking criticism now not just from those on the right,

but from those on the left, over the weekend dianne feinstein accused him of being too cautious when it comes to isis, just today jane harmon came out and said he should have come out after this american was beheaded and used that to make the case to the american people, that we are going to have to get involved here more significantly, militarily. i mean, the left put him in office in large part because they believed what he said, he was going to go in there and end wars, not start them. >> that was certainly -- and look, he's tried to do that, the problem is, if you end a war by withdrawing from the battlefield, the war's over and you lose that's not what i think most americans consider a desirable outcome. many americans believe iraq was a cause not worth fighting forth. the iraq that was bee keithed to president obama was in a lothap

see today, now we're seeing a similar scenario play out in afghanistan, where the president surged troops into that country, a commitment that he had made and his party had made going back some time, but announced he was leaving. that looks like it's going to turn out very badly indeed. what we see now is that it all isn't panning out the way he thought what he's trying to do is redefine the threats down. remember, al qaeda was not a large growing movement, it was core al qaeda we were at war with. once osama bin laden was killed, that war was considered won. isis is the jv of terrorism, now they've turned out to be something far more monstrous than al qaeda, although they're an outgrowth of al qaeda he claimed to have defeated. there we are, and my sense about this is, he doesn't know what to do. and i think that his -- on some

level he thinks this will all somehow play out -- and these are somebody else's fights. the problem is, that he may be right in thinking the world ought to do more than it does, and shouldn't leave so much to the united states of america to be the world's cop on the beat. the problem is, that even if that's true and that's a fair argument, the question is whether you can afford to let that play out in the way it might, if the world doesn't step up, and the history is, over many, many decades now, dating well back into the last century, if the united states doesn't step up and lead and put its military out front, and doesn't conduct diplomacy with force in the background, the good things don't happen, and that is where we are today. good things are not happening, and the united states has stepped back, and that did not make the situation better as president obama imagined it would. >> as hillary clinton said, a vacuum is left behind. >> thank you, megyn.

at today's state briefing, a point that became more significant than any other. >> we have two american journalists beheaded by this group, is there any doubt on your part or the part of the administration that the united states is at war with isis? >> james rosen is here on why the administration response is now getting so much attention. but first, what could be the most fascinating interview of the night, we will speak next with a former islamic extremist on the thinking that led to those beheadings and what it will take to stop this terror army. don't miss this. do you feel that now -- how is that taken do you think by these radical islamists, do you think they

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but to undermine the ideology that they're based upon. there is no justification, but i think calling them psychopaths does let them off too easily they bear 100% responsibility for their actions and they think they're serving a higher noble cause. it's that cause, that narrative that we need to undermine and work to undermine it on a civilian society that becomes as unappealing as soviet communism

has become today it's a struggle we have ahead of us. it's what i've dedicated my life to doing >> i understand a lot of these jihadists are well educated and come from decent families. they may have been ostracized. but when you look at the video, you can't help but look at the killer ask think how could he have come from that type of family. >> that phase of evil, when one subscribes to a group identity, to groups and such atrocious behavior becomes normalized in that context, one's own standards of what barbarity comes to mean change dramatically.

it's why it becomes so crucial not just all of society but parts of society to stand with everybody else, and be vocal not just in condemnation of the acts but work to undermine ideology. >> do you feel the muslim community has been vocal in doing that? >> i think no one has been vocal enough we need to do more but so does president obama. i can't believe the president of the most powerful country in the world says he has no strategy to deal with isis in syria. obama needs to do more. main stream society needs to do more, accept this isn't a clash of civilizations between islam and western world but in fact an intrareligious struggle within islam. >> do you feel now, you mention president obama admitting we have no strategy. how is that taken by these

radical islamists? what do you think? . >> i think it's significant for isis to be able to demonstrate lightning speed victories when faced with their threat. it's significant for them, especially in theo political propaganda terms, a part of the appeal is how they've been able to eclipse al qaeda as the world's most dangerous and richest terrorist organization, claiming god is on their side because if god wasn't on their side they won't have been able to come to power so quickly in the way they did. when witnessing the powers of america, the greatest, strongest country is paralyzed in facing isis, they're able to draw back to examples where during the time of the prophet mohammed, rome and the persian empire were equally paralyzed in dealing

with them the paralysis of great powers around them is a wonderful propaganda coup. their ability to control territory and hold on to it convinces them that bad god is on their side. one thing will convince them is when we destroy isis, defeat isis. it's what needs to be done. >> how about you? someone reading this radical islamic group for years and then, you went to prison for four years in a post september 11th siege. now, you've come out. your family intervened you spoke with prisoner who's convinced you it's not the way. now, you're running for the house of commons in england you're third generation. how can we turn more extremists the way you were turned? >> as you mention i was a political prisoner during the

war in terror decade five years in egypt as a member of the radical islamic organization. i'm now a parliamentary candidate for liberal democrats people can change, turn, move towards positive ways of interacting with society we need to popularize them. >> thank you very much for sharing your story with us and thoughts. we appreciate it. >> thank you. pleasure. >> fascinating. >> we have big news on what the president is being told about this threat a year ago. plus, news from the hospital on joan rivers. who is rushed to an emergency room last week, unresponsive. we'll have that for you next. when fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts

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developing tonight, new reports that joan rivers is on life support tonight in a new york city hospital, where family is reportedly taking things day by day, and talking about a possible lawsuit now. the 81-year-old comedian went into cardiac arrest last thursday, during a routine outpatient procedure. trace gallagher live in our west coast newsroom with more. trace? >> the hope was, doctors would begin bringing her out of a coma today. that has not happened. her vital signs remain stable. the big concern is how long she went without oxygen and whether it might affect her brain function and motor skills. it was during that routine procedure last week on her vocal cords that her heart stopped and remember, she was in an outpatient facility with no emergency resources, she was taken by ambulance to mt. sinai

hospital. when the brain loses oxygen, swells. and the nerve cells begin to die. the goal is to reduce the swelling. dr. mark siegel says when it comes to the brain not getting oxygen, seconds make all the difference and so do years. listen. >> over the age of 80, when you have general anesthesia, when you have a surgical procedure done, when you don't have enough blood flow to the brain for a period of time, and have a cardiac arrest, you could easily have a situation where you never recover. this is a very problematic case. >> a full recovery is certainly not out of the question, today the e! network, the home of joan rivers show fashion police said she was on the road to recovery. we have not heard the family or doctors back up that prognosis. there are reports the family is considering action against the

facility that did that vocal chord procedure in the first place. phone hacking on the part of some of hollywood's most famous actresses and pictures they didn't want made pubs this mean that owns an iphone? we'll tell you. are we at war with isis? the answer and why it matters so much just ahead with james rosen. sweet! spicy! savory! enjoy it all... 'cause red lobster's one and only endless shrimp is now!

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breaking tonight, new details on what was our top story, before the beheading of american journalist steven sotloff. the president has been getting briefed on the concerns about this terror army, isis for more than a year now. in reports that were both detailed and very clear about the threat. chief intelligence correspondent

catherine haerridge has the story. >> reporter: the president was given specific intelligence about isis at least for a year before the group seized large chunks of territory this summer. the evidence was strong, the president takes his briefs electronically, could only conclude the situation was getting bad. neither the white house nor the pentagon denied the claim, emphasizing they're on top of the situation. >> i'm not in a situation to give out details of the president's daily briefing. i can tell you for years the president and other members of his national security team have expressed our concern about extremist elements in syria, and the stabilizing impact it could have on the broader region. >> after suggestions that the administration may have been blindsided and poor intelligence was to blame, the former pentagon official said some of the regional intelligence was so good that when the president drew a red line on chemical

weapons in 2012, a couple hundred targets had been identified. the apparent execution of steven sotloff is raising more questions about a rescue attempt in july for james foley whose execution video was posted last month and possibly sotloff who is believed to be with him. and whether the administration delayed the operation. the former pentagon official confirmed a heavily identified compound was identified. but the white house was hesitant to act and continued to ask for more intelligence to back up the finding. m megyn? >> thank you. joining me how, mark theissen, a fellow with the american enterprise institute, and laney davis, columnist for the hill and author of crisis tales. we begin with mark. what has happened here so the audience knows is that the president when asked whether he underestimated isis earlier in august, said there's no doubt

their advance, their movement over the last several months, has been more rapid than the intelligence estimates. he basically said he hadn't been told and he said earlier he was caught by surprise by this group. what katherine is telling us tonight is that now a pentagon official, a former pentagon official anonymously is coming to us and saying, that's not true. >> and that's very important, because this is typical for this administration, they're trying to blame it on the intelligence community and throw them under the bus. the intelligence community warned president obama about the isis threat, they warned there was a growing danger in the middle east, that he had to deal with, and he attended his briefings, we know that, i looked at his records in january 2014, the month he described them as a jv threat, he attended all but three of the daily intelligence briefings, he was getting these briefings in his first term and he didn't do anything about it. >> he was there, getting the briefings in january, he tells

the world not to worry about isis which has captured fallujah, because it's jv, and now have you mark theissen and dianne feinstein, you are not politically aligned, agreeing on the following, here she is yesterday. >> i think it's a major varsity chain. i see nothing that compares with its viciousness. >> why the conflicting message from the president? >> because the intelligence community was telling him something he didn't want to hear. they were prevending a move, the phenomena of the unconvenient fact, a new terrorist danger was rising in the middle east. president obama had just told the american people the tide of war is receding, we can focus on nation building here at home, we can withdraw, i'm not the president who starts wars, i'm the president who ends wars. the intelligence kmoont is telling him, there's a new terror dwanger rising. if he accepted that judgment, he would have to do something about it. if he accepted their judgment, he would have to do something about it, he would have to

acknowledge his policies are contributing to the problem. he had done nothing about the crisis in syria, which as hillary clinton pointed out, created a vacuum that the jihadi filled, he would have to make difficult policy changes and look himself in the mirror and see what he's doing wrong. >> it's like what brit was saying at the top of the hour, he has an ideology that believes if we sort of withdraw from these situations, it will lead to more peace in the world. he is not alone, many on the left feel this way. the american public, the most recent is from january, they don't want to get involved in these crises involving isis. there was a poll done by politico a month or so ago. it only polled the most competitive house and senate districts. those folks said, we don't feel the need to go after isis, 60%. military action should be limited to direct threats against the homeland. we don't have that. >> well, you know what, that will change a lot if they hit us

here at home, this is the problem, the president is not dealing with the threat, he has allowed a threat to fester and become creative on his watch. he allowed them space. this is the group that we had defeated in the surge in 2007 and he allowed them to rebrought and reconstitute themselves and they have beheaded two american citizens, if he doesn't do something about this threat, they're going to come after us. everyone from dianne feinstein to the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff says this is an imminent threat. he went to a fund-raiser this last weekend and said, we're pretty safe. the world isn't in danger. if he's wrong, those words are going to come to haunt him. >> nine days before 9/11, mark, thank you. >> now we go to lanny davis. good to see you, your thoughts on that. >> hi, megyn. first of all, i respect mark, i love his writing. i didn't hear mark criticizing

president bush after 9/11 that he received an intelligence report before 9/11 woorning about an airplane terrorist attack. the reason i never joined in that criticism, wisdom by hindsight is always 20/20. it's not particularly a fair comment, especially since we have an anonymous official not willing to come forward and be on the record, and accountable for the -- >> he took a shot at his community and the person felt the need to come out and defend the community. >> he's no longer in his community. i'm not sure if the president took a shot, if that's a little strong, megyn. i will tell you i am concerned that the president isn't communicating and informing the american people that isis is a threat to our homeland. >> he says the contrary is true. >> that troubles me, because what they say is we'll see you in the united states, there are americans being trained who are terrorists there, they have american passports, and the intelligence community and the

secretary of defense and senator feinstein and a lot of people like me would like the president on television telling the american people about the threat that isis presents. and i don't mind him taking his time to come up with a plan -- he has air power, drones, and we expect people on the ground in that area to fight to defend their country and not drop the arms that we've paid so dearly for. he needs to inform us about the grave danger that we face. >> what about that. we are potentially looking at a generational conflict here. you know, the people watching the show have children, possibly grandchildren that could pay the price depending on what we do or don't do, at this moment, with respect to this horrific group. he obviously does need time to weigh how to handle this, and yet, can any president come out and assure the american public that they are going to handle this the right way? it is so precarious. >> he's got to first of all inform the american public who -- the kind of communication

that franklin roosevelt all the way through president obama, he had the courage to send in s.e.a.l.s, contrary to his own advice. the reason why the polls are against doing anything, is that nobody including myself believes american boys should be on the ground when people in iraq and afghanistan and even the local countries are not willing to fight themselves, we still have air power, we still have drones and we have a lot of things we can be doing to protect us from another 9/11. >> we have to worry about ourselves. >> and he's got to warrant american people that that's the issue that our homeland is being threatened and the polls would show a much different result. young people as well as older people, if you said, are you willing to take action? using air power, not people on the ground, in order to destroy isis and supply people on the

ground willing to fight isis who are saudis, who are iraqis, who are syrian opposition moderates and you would get a different result from the polling questions. >> who is willing to be on the ground. so far everyone's looking to us. where are our partners, where are these other people. >> the news about the beheading of steven sotloff broke before today's state department briefing, and this became a very hot topic. >> sort of common sense point of view, the average american will say to himself, this group is at war with us. why does our president or our secretary of state not recognize that and say, indeed, we are at war with this group and we will destroy them? >> james rosen is here live next on why the administration's response is getting so much attention. new details tonight on the phone hacking that involved hollywood's famous actresses, are you at ♪

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department is conducting daily air strikes against them in iraq, and the commander in chief has formerly reported to congress about the war powers act. in my exchanges with the representative of the state department, she declined to address that term, at war. >> a lot of americans sit at home and see americans who are aded by this group overseas and from a common sense point of view, the average american will say to himself, this group is at war with us, why does our president or secretary of state not recognize that and say, indeed, we are at war with this group, and we am destroy them? >> well, i think first of all our actions speak to our commitment to this. the president has authorized more than 100 strikes in iraq. i think any american sitting at

home should sit and look at the actions we're taking, i don't think it's a useful exercise to go back and forth about new terms. what's important is what we're doing about it, and the president's authorization, what the secretary will be doing over the next couple weeks is action in that regard. >> i asked her if the president expects to compete this mission of defeating isis before he leaves isis. she said she wouldn't put a deadline or a time line on it. >> thank you. andy, why won't they say flat out that we're at war with isis? because josh ernest also said exclusively last week, no, we are not. >> i think they have philosophical and legal problems doing that given the positions they take. during the libya war where we not only bombed the regime and toppled it, the u.s. would not

admit it was a war, they said it was a kinetic military action. >> what is it, the president when he was running for office said i'm going to make clear we are not at war with islam, he seemed to acknowledge, we are at war with terrorists who kill us, but we're not at war with islam isn't isis a group of terrorists that kill us? why can't he say that -- >> i don't think he ever acknowledged we were at war with terrorists -- >> he did, i have it on tape. >> we are not at war with islam. america is at war with terrorists who killed people on our soil. >> it was 19 people who killed people on our soil. i don't mean to be flip about it, his whole administration has been about miniaturizing the problem. when in fact what we're at war with is not even isis, it's a much broader movement than isis

or al qaeda. you have an intellectual backbone in the muslim brotherhood, you have jihadists likal qaeda and isis. you can't make a strategy that will ever work unless you take all three of those components -- >> does he believe that if we make nice with these people that they -- if we withdraw as a superpower, if we hands down, heads down, eyes down, with respect to our foreign policy. they will leave us alone? >> i do think that he believes and the people who are his people believe that there's a down side to anything we do aggressively in our national security. that we make problems worse -- >> a lot of people believe that fp. >> a lot of people are wrong. >> have we had six years of not trying that, and where has it gotten us? >> the threat is much worse, and the threat is far worse today than it was before 9/11.

if you think about it, what do they need to attack america? they need safe havens, weapons and resources, they need state sponsorship, and they need lax immigration enforcement, and what they have on every one of those scores is a far more -- a far better, more favorable field for isis now, than was for al qaeda in 1998. >> is this presidency disproving a core belief that many in this country have held is isolationism is the way to keep us safe? >> i think it's complicated, but yes. largely yes, i have never believed that the american people are against taking aggressive action to protect the united states, what the american people have not favored is these ambitious projects -- sharia democracy building, which is just -- whether that can even happen is an experiment. if you tell the american people, this is what we need to do to protect the united states, they're all in, if you tell them, we have to then move into another country and stay for ten or 12 years and spend$12 years

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both the fbi and apple are investigating allegations that online accounts of several female celebrities were hacked. leading to the unauthorized posts of some very personal photos and videos. trace gallagher has the details from our west coast bureau. >> apple says after more than 40 hours of investigating this mess, so far it's found no evidence of a breach or a flaw

in its icloud system. apple believes the hackers recovered the naked pictures by targeting their user names and passwords. if you forget, you can often reset it by entering your dog's name, your mom's name. celebrities make popular targets. a lot of that information is out there. >> you not only have to have a password, but something else that that makes it far harder for an attacker to make you the next victim. >> the fbi is also investigating, someone has gone online claiming responsibility saying this wasn't a single hacker, but a grown hack attack. more than 100 celebrities had nude photos posted online, including jennifer lawrence,

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