generally, generally. >> she said she was 21. hello, everyone. i'm greg gutfeld along with kimberly guilfoyle, eric bolling and she's fluent in bright line, dana perino and bob beckel. this is "the five." for the first time in history we have two presidents. there's this man. >> they failed because like people around the world americans are repulsed by their barberism. >> and then there's this man. >> despite the cynics america's on the move. it's making progress. despite all the opposition, they are working two jobs who didn't have them before. >> again, this gentleman. >> their horrific acts only

unite us as a country and stiffen our resolve to take the fight against these terrorists. >> and then this charmer. >> the belief that together we can build up our middle class and hand down something better to our kids. that's what built america, and america's best days are still ahead. >> it's weird. are we sure this is the same guy? i mean, this guy -- >> and those who make the mistake of harming americans will learn that we will not forget and that our reach is long and that justice will be served. >> can't be this guy. >> they should know we will follow them to the gates of hell until they are brought to justice. because hell is where they will reside! hell is where they will reside. >> call hem dr. jekyll and mr. hyde but he's more like dr. jekyll and mr. bean. no wonder everyone is confuse the. we have a goofus and gallant

presidency, gallant with his pals and goofus with us, passive for his fans and passivity for the rest of us and with the world on fire our president isn't. as a defense he's as inspiring as a sewing cheerio, like watching someone take batting practice with a garden hose or teeing off with a rope or shooting pool with a butterfly net. selena gomez has more testosterone. at some point the president must admit we're under attack not by republicans or evil corporations but radical islam. it's not hobby lobby, hell-bent madmen but perhaps it's odd to consult external threats when you are taught threats are internal, an ideology cultivated by ayers and alibsky. like it or not, it's time to lead and not from behind. in a world where everyone is behind, not being in front makes you an ass. time to abandon your discomfort over american mother, you're not a unionist, not an community organizer. you're the president of the united states with critical role

as leader of the free world. there were 42 before you. let's make sure there's a 45th. bob, let me go to you first. >> please. >> because i know you digs agree with me, because i wanted to agree with you on one point. as long as president obama bombs, does it matter if he's boring? >> no, but let me take this to another level. this is going to cause, i know, some disagreement here, but i think what obama said about things we need to do here at home. i think the terror threat is overwhelming overstated. i think that we're spending too much time and too much money, more kids killed on bicycles in the last two years than killed by terrorists in this country. we have altered our way of life. we're spending a lot of money and the world is not on fire. fire in certain places with a certain group of people that can be dealt with. >> it's a fire that spreads. >> you say that's a fire that spreads, maybe, maybe. we don't know that yet, and that's my point. >> but we've had --

>> it's not right next door yet. i know you disagree with me, but i'm just saying there's a lot of other things i would rather deal with at least equally here at home as we do in this terrorist threat from the thugs in the middle east. >> i were argue it hasn't been equal since obama has been president. he's been obsessed with domestic issues like obamacare. eric, joe biden on isis. was that president obama farming out his passion? >> i don't know. >> almost felt like the white house advisers, well, he's not going to do it, hits see if we can get biden to do something to at least get people stirred up a little bit and let them think they are concerned about it. bob, senator feinstein, senator franken, senator nelson and a handful of other senators say president obama's lack of strategy is a problem, it's problematic and needs to develop something. >> what does that have to do with isis? >> you said isis isn't a threat. >> god, man. >> did you not say we are overestimating the isis threat? >> i think -- yes, i will say that. >> so senator feinstein, nelson,

franken and a host of other senators don't think we're overstating the isis threat and think obama should come up with a strategy. anyway, from this morning, the presser overseas. he's -- president obama says we're going to degrade and destroy and then he goes into something about making it -- making isis a manageable problem. herpes is manageable. isis is deadly. we need to stop playing around with this. >> i'll agree to that. >> another thought.why isn't is? maybe putin is scarier than president obama. he have a strategy to combat hunger and obesity, but we don't have a strategy -- >> school lunches. >> terrorists kill russians every day. >> i have a strategy. forget let's move. how about let's bomb. >> terrorists in chechnya kill russians every day. >> okay, but not isis terrorists. >> they are not lobbing off heads and showing the families. >> maybe they don't do that. >> don't say they don't kill russians, of course they do. >> i want to show what you're referring, to the shift in

perspective, what president obama said first about isis later and then we can comment on that. >> bottom line is this. our objective is clear, and that is to degrade and destroy isil so it's no longer a threat, not just to iraq, but also the region and to the united states. >> we'll continue to shrink isil's sphere of influence, its effectiveness, its financing, its -- its military capabilities to the point where it is a manageable problem. >> kimberly? that shift from degrade and destroy. >> she's on the ground. >> is that a shift in perspective, a wise shift, or was he backpedaling? >> look, i don't think he knows what direction he's going. it's embarrassing. as our president we've got the guy on like the tricycle that kind of doesn't know which direction to go in, and the uk's

got a team in place, an they have got a leader in david cameron that knows exactly what he's doing, so now today i find myself craving, craving the uk, and their leader because we don't have someone who has any idea. now, i'm gravitating towards biden because at least he figured out who are the good guys, who are the bad guys, and he sounds like he actually cares about it and understands that this is a credible threat. >> what are you talking about? >> they are prepared and really ramping up in the uk to prepare themselves for any kind of terrorist attack. >> okay. >> which is also what we should be doing. they understand the gravity of the situation and that the reach of isis and these terrorist groups can come to your front door. you don't seem to be able to get that. >> i get it perfectly well. i think you over-get it. >> dana i get the idea we shouldn't be in a hurry. >> okay. >> but we should be forceful, and there doesn't -- when you see that sharp contrast between the forceful nature of obama internally and internationally

it -- it kind of bugs you. >> not just internally. it's about a minimum wage increase. >> true. >> versus terrorism. remember, bob, two weeks ago i got bleached for saying a word that didn't really need to be bleeped but because i was so mad -- i was mad because you were talking about how the threat wasn't as big a deal, and then that night you got a phone call from somebody that was a good pal of yours that is notice know and they told you that you were being an idiot and that that was ridiculous. >> about the potential for isis in that region, yeah, that's right. >> do you think you're going to get another call tonight? >> no, because i don't think he believes or do i believe that the united states is in an imminent threat of stuff happening and what we're doing is scaring ourselves and our kids in the process. >> who is scaring the children? >> you know what scares me a president that seems to be asleep at the wheel. his affect is off. he's so excited about domestic issues and then he's like this. >> you're not worried about it because it doesn't affect you that much. >> i do care.

>> i want to pick up something da kimberly said. dana millbanks said the president's happy talk is disturbing to people and that if it looked like and seemed like he who is more worried that they would have to worry less. i think the white house will have to answer to something from congress if they can get their act together and ask it if they will. that's about the president's daily brief. catherine herridge broke the news yesterday about a former pentagon official that says in the president's daily brief at least since last january there's been specific information with specific targets regarding isis. would could have happened between january and now so that we don't -- that we might not have been in the crisis situation that we're in? could we have stopped them from having a territory now the size of great britain? and we've shown the air strikes that the president ordered are very effective. especially while these things are going on in russia, with

libya, this morning the national security council announced susan rice, the president's national security adviser, who is supposed to coordinate a strategy across all the agencies, is going to china for a previously scheduled trip and i think on the week of september 11 i wouldn't have the national security advisers travel to china. >> let me ask eric this. i hate to say that i might agree with thomas freedman on anything. >> i can't believe it. >> don't do it. >> i'm sorry. he made a point that the beheadings are meant to get us to overreact. >> sure. >> true. >> that's true, so you could see -- >> terror is meant to get people to overreact. >> should we not overreact? >> think about this for one second. a guy tried to blow up a plane with his shoe, what, ten years ago, and every american has been taking off his shoe ever since then. that job an overreact. that would be a definition of terror. >> underwear bomber? >> the minute you don't and something bad happens, then -- then you lose. we really do need -- look --

>> is that a strategy? >> he's saying you can't afford to not react. >> you're sitting back and going to sit back and like make fun of everyone else. >> i'm not making fun. i'm just asking. >> and substantive to this debate. here's what we are. we are america who is afraid of a 9/11 that's going to happen in one week and one day. we don't know what our policy is. we don't know what our strategy is. we don't know what we're doing to combat any sort of terror threat that may be coming to our shore or happening from within, and we have a white house that refuses, refuses, to give us a definition of what they are going to do and that's scary. what we need to do is tell them to let us know what they are going to do so at least we can get behind something. >> but there are people who have a strategy and know what they want to do. the problem is the president is the last one to go along with it because he can't pull the trigger. he can't make decisions. he constantly equivocates, waits, waits, can't decide. that's why people like rahm emanuel left him. >> he's not waiting. he's bombing every day. he's bombing every day.

he is bombing every day. and it's working. what is the strategy for getting rid of these guys? >> make isis a manageable problem. what the hell does that mean? what does that mean? >> that's the last thing he said. we want isis to become a manageable -- can you define a manageable problem. >> my guess is probably won't do away with an entire group of people completely. >> so a few american deaths is okay so that's manageable. >> all i would say to you is that i think it's like saying you're going to make all radical islamists manageable or get rid of them all. >> it's bad rhetoric, like he said in on a business class in college and heard the word make it a manageable problem. that's not what we're dealing with right now. >> you said everybody else has a strategy. >> i know exactly what we need to do here, and i wish the president would get on board and figure it out. >> which is what. >> continue with the bombings

and do something about syria as well, continue to put men and women on the ground to make sure that we have reliable realtime intelligence-gathering. we need to take out the top and central command of isis right there, cut the head off the snake, and continue until they stop beheading people. >> do you believe any of that is not happening? >> one thing that's not happening or we don't know that's happening. i want to ask dana about this. >> and cut off the financing. >> there seems -- president obama have any international capital to build a coalition at this point? >> this is a great question. >> thank you. >> yeah. in the syrian red line situation, one of the questions i asked was who -- could you name who in the world is president obama's best friend on the world stage? who does he call when you know what hits the fan? who does he call to say we need to get this coalition together? typically every president, you can actually name one, reagan, thatcher, clinton, blair, george w. bush with koizumi or aznar or

even blair later on. obama seems to be alone and aloof. that's the narrative in everyone saying this is the way he's decided to handle his presidency. >> clooney anz jds uniphasy. >> right now at the nato meeting it would be maybe the president behind closed doors is a master ceremonies bringing everybody together and they will come out with a strong strategy. >> in fairness to him, nobody else is doing anything. he is doing something. >> the reason that people used to do things with us is because we led, as leader of the free world, they came along and said we're with the united states. >> who else should be doing it? >> you tell me. >> how many beheaded saudis have we seen? how many beheaded russians have we seen or brits have we seen so far? >> we saw a brit do both of them. >>the beheadings were done by a brit, right? >> we've got to be heading out. ahead on "the five" former president jimmy carter speaks out on terror calling on muslims

to turn to allah in order to bring peace. kimberly has the tape next.

president obama thinks one of the keys to defeating iskis is to organize the muslim world.

>> what we've got to do is make sure that we are organizing the arab world, the middle east, the muslim world along with the international community to isolate this cancer. >> so what does former president jimmy carter think? muslims should turn to allah to help bring about peace. >> we all americans want to insist upon basic human rights, peace, freedom, justice and the treatment of each other as equals, and i hope that all of you will use the principles of allah and our god to bring peace and justice to all. >> dana, what did you just say? >> i think what he's saying is good. i think that's a good message, that he has a voice, they listen to him. i found nothing objectionable to what he's saying. we're not under some illusion that all of a sudden muslims in the world are going to see the

light and become christians. you can read the text in a certain way, but vast majority of muslims in the world are a peaceful people and radicals are ruining their religion and not enough imams are standing up to them, but you do have countries in the muslim world that are starting to stand with us. maybe that's because the enemy of your enemy is your friend and if that's the case we need to use this opportunity to forge a new way forward in the world. >> we'll take them. eric? >> i said it before. i think iran needs to step up. they can, and they have not a huge political footprint in the middle east, if other muslims see iran pushing back on isis, i think that will help quite a bit. saudi arabia has the will and the money and the location to do it. they need to do it as well, around turkey needs to get involved, too, because they have a border with iraq, and i think it's important for turkey to get involved, too, so if you have the three countries, predominantly muslim countries pushing back on isis i think that's a great thing. i think it will go a long way

and i hope they do. iran has some leverage, threatien sanctions again if it gets to that. if it -- if they don't get on board and play ball with us threaten iranian sanctions. they were actually working. can we stop calling them islamic state? can we call them something else? can we call them muslim terrorists, call them anything but islamic state. they don't represent islam and they are not a state nor should they be recognized as a state. figure out another word. >> that's a good point. by the way, i think the three countries you name is really the key to this thing and surprising we might have to find ourselves working with the iranians, but this is a good place to do it. the turks are vitally important to this, but the most important is the saudis, and the saudis have got to realize sooner than later that this is their fight, not our fight, at least as much their fight as it is our fight, but i agree with those three countries. outside of that i can't imagine egypt or anybody else having much of an impact. >> okay. it's weird though because in a sense what we're seeing is the new bad guys make all the other

bad guys suddenly look good, and i don't necessarily buy that because these -- they have been beheading -- these radicals have been beheading for years, and it just happens to be on twitter and it's well produced. isis is really just a better version of al qaeda, like bad boys 2 or "another 4 hours." it's a sequel so i have a problem knowing there's all these civil wars going on. how do you organize people who are at war with themselves? they are at war with themselves, and this might be the time. this might be the time that islam decides to domesticate or tame its radical extremist factions but the radical extremist factions have been around for a long time and no one was tried to tame them. in history almost all religions have faced their extremist factions, and at some point they have been domesticated. >> and they backed down for the most part in hundreds of years. this is finally the time that the saudis decided they back down that it will cost them like 150 years when they lost their kingdom.

>> they will have to pay attention to it and do something about it. i've got a full-screen quote and this is a new statement on the fight against isis from the united arab emirates. islamic extremism is a middle east problem, but it is quickly becoming the world's problem, too. it is a trainingsal challenge, the most destabilizing and dangerous global force since fascism. the uae is ready to join the ingt international community in an urgent, coordinated and sustained effort to confront a threat that will, if unchecked, have global ramifications to come. take it around the table, bob, starting with you. >> i don't think they can do much militarily but certainly financially. the saudis have been supporting the wahabis for a long time and if they can cut off the money and get oil fields back isis will not have as much access to resources that they have in the past. >> eric, pick it up. >> i think you're 100% right, yes, so they have this territory in northern iraq and part ever syria.

there's some oil there, but the massive oil fields are in the southern part of iraq. what you need to do is make sure they don't get that and start to take the oil fields back. you cut off the money, you cut off isimpts they can't go anywhere from there, can only loot and steal a certain amount of gold out of banks. jihadists dropping whatever business, if they are not going to be paid they will stop doing it. >> and most of these weapons, sophisticated weapons are coming through turk to them and i think the turks, they have their own problems in a major battle between secular and -- >> the other thing, can i just add this very quickly. kill the brand. right now they are cool, like muslim, 16, 17, 18 years, want to be an islamist, look at them, wow, they are winning, they are cool. kill the brand. destroy the name and show them what they are and the ugly under belly of terrorism. >> dana. >> i'll say quickly, ambassador is a lovely person and we're lucky enough to have him. they do have military assets and

from a digital standpoint isis is very capable when it comes to spreading terror on their phones and i think the uae could put muscle behind countering some of the propaganda that you see in the middle east, and that would be very useful. >> always like a good cyber attack against the enemy. >> the other interesting point about this is that the arabs brought up radical islam. we haven't. i mean, our president won't. >> you can argue about obama. it's amazing. when was the last time we heard radical islam come out of mouth offis mifs? >> breakthrough over here. >> wouldn't that be nice. no time like the present, especially given the week coming up. the isis threat here at home. are members of the terror network already in america and able to strike? stay tuned for some important updates next on "the five."

♪ >> 9/11 is just a week and a day away jihadists would love another victory on our soil. could it be home-grown here in the usa? if you think that's not a threat, think again. here's a happy home-grown jihadist troy cartingary from minnesota. >> if you only knew how much fan we have over here. this is the real disneyland. >> troy died fighting for al qaeda types in somalia in 2009 and how about these guys, douglas mcarthur mccain and ahmed muhummad, all three americans from minnesota, mccain

and kagtary were best friends and mr. muhummad, nothing to see there. he worked at delta airlines at the minneapolis airport and he had security clearance. >> i mean, they are here. getting anybody's attention at all? bob? come on. >> no. >> you don't care? >> of course i do. i think we brought it on ourselves. >> they don't see this and go, yo, check me out over here, ready to go jihad. they get it in place and set it up and wait for it because they have the wherewithal and they have the focus. this is their life. they have no problem dying for the cause. it's about religion. >> i don't disagree that that's what they would like to do. we've invited so many muslims in this country and done a very poor job vetting people as they come in and it's not at all surprising to me a number of them are very radical and that they are here. that is our problem. >> why do you think that we don't have any kind of credible

threat here? >> because the command structure here and the ability to do that. >> bob, these are two -- these are three american high school people from minnesota, two of them went to high school together. these are americans, not foreigners who have come over, radicalized americans. they fought -- they fought and died for isis. would they be considered manageable problems? >> i think they are three all-american high school students who killed more children than any of them. >> manageable problems. >> dane ashe -- >> that's not what i said. >> one town in one american state, i mean, there's -- it's got to be more. >> well, probably, is and that's what i think ever since the 9/11 commission issued its first report that their biggest concern is a home-grown threat so possibly a lone wolf situation. that's one of the reasons that we have the intel programs that we have in order to try to coordinate and find out -- >> the boston bombing. >> talking to anybody outside. >> boston marathon bombing is a great example.

i worry every day, not so much about the anniversary itself 9/11 because i think that as soon as we worry about that date, then they might strike on the 12th, but it is good to be vigilant at all times, of course. >> and, craig, you wonder why they went to syria and wherever else, wherever castigar got killed. >> i don't think they are typical terrorists. i believe they are a mob of organized spree killers employed by a master that gives them meaning. i don't think they are any different than people that if and shoot up schools, and we have to be very careful about romanticizing in media the coverage of these spree killers, treat them like the dirt bags they are. 340 million in this country, is that right, so this is why there's four things that are important, second amendment. the law-abiding citizen must have the ability to protect himself in case something were to happen. i don't think you'll ever see a radical takeover of the united

states as long as there are wonderful, beautiful guns. number two, we need to enforce our borders so to make sure this stuff doesn't happen again and we do need spy programs. we need strong intel, the nsa, got to trust them. this is the haystack, the guys in the haystack. >> can we do this very quickly. play a clip of former cia apertif bob behr who says isis is already here in the u.s. >> people who collect tactical intelligence on the ground day to day, and this isn't washington, but, you know, people collecting this stuff say they are here. isis is here. they are capable of striking. they don't know what their plans and intentions are, but it's a definite concern and the people who do this for a living are very alarmed. >> bobby, you alarmed? >> huh? >> are you alarmed? >> i know bob baer and i wouldn't begin to comment. >> can you not engage in a personal attack. >> not based on fact. you've got to have facts.

>> i just gave you three. [ no audio [. dana, your thoughts on whether bob baer is right? we can't bury -- we can't put our head in the sand and say they are not here. they are not here. >> of course not, and i think what you're hearing from some of these anonymous sources or the intel community, i've seen this before. start to reach out a little bit because they are getting concerned that perhaps the united states is not taking this as seriously as they would like. it is very confusing. when you hear messages like that and then you hear the president of the united states say, well, look, the world has always been a messy place. know more about it now because of social media, a shrug of the shoulder and then on one and he's going to degrade it and destroy it and then he's going to manage it. there's reason for americans to be confused. >> i think what we really need, and america has to take a page out of isis and start creating our own scary as hell

propaganda. >> i agree. >> why can't we go back to what we did with desert storm and showed powerpoint presentations of people getting annihilated. >> time for some of those on youtube. >> time for the united states to go this is what happens when you do this. we destroy you. the problem is these guys -- they want to be martyred so it's not a big deal. >> remember the underwear bomber video. >> why don't we accommodate them, greg. i'm so happy to accommodate them. >> the virgins are waiting for you guys. >> i have a better idea. we create a video that shows a mishap. >> oh, yeah. >> and that you get to heaven and then you don't have your you know what. >> that's two you know whats. >> that's a little racy. >> we'll leave it there. >> you know what. >> next on "the five" your mid-term poll position updates, and it's not looking good for democrats, bob.

♪ the mid term elections are less than nine weeks away and a new battled ground poll from george washington university shows the gop with a strong edge. faced with a competitive edge republicans hold a 16-point edge over democrats and on a generic battle they have a sfour-point lead. in 2010 when they won four seats to take back the house the closest they ever got in the generic battle was even. bob, you spoke to a pollster today. i like your take. >> the thing you have to worry about, and all the interventions i've looked at over my career, certain things that are just givens, it's not theory, it's math. the intensity factors by labor day tend to be consistent, so if they are consistent the way they are now, that's a real probthe democrats find themselves for the first time i think in a long

time without an issue at all to go into this with. there's plenty on the republican side, and so when you get down to talking about minimum wage and social security will be next, you've got some problems, but the other real problem here, let's remember that most of these people up for re-election won in a landslide victory for obama in states where they should not have won, and so this country has a tendency to correct itself so if i were the democrats, my own numbers now are 52 and 53 for the senate. i don't think the house will be that big, but it could change. the problem is that after labor day there's very little here that moves things around, and the idea, and i said yesterday trying to not nationalize this election, election has been nationalize and very little to do to turn this around. one or two will survive it, maybe one or two surprises. i'm not at all optimistic. i would like to be, but i'm not. >> eric, what's your takeaway from the poll? >> as you get closer, we can

drill down into the individual races, let's stay lofty here on this for a second. herd psychology, when things start to happen and snowball and momentum starts to build, it's very real and you think about in stocks. all of a sudden everyone likes a stock and they pile. in sports betting, the lines can actually move and everyone says what does he know, let's get in, too. steve schmidt this morning said something smart. i don't like him for some of the things that went on with sarah palin. he says he sees this as a wave election and it will be such a wave that it will carry races like ed gillespie in virginia probably an underdog into a victory and that makes a lot of sense. >> ed and i are a friend so i hope he wins. >> not enough water out there to make a wave that big. >> let me ask you, greg, on immigration. this week we saw the president's team behind the scenes say they were going to do something on executive -- through executive order. >> right. >> and they said they weren't until after the election, so i

think immigration was actually working against them on the campaign trail. >> bob says they don't have any issues. they do have issues and they are wrong on every side of them. the only way a democrat can win on things like immigration is to act like a republican which makes you ask if they -- why don't they decide to act that way all the time, not just before an election? ask yourself if this is how constituents want you to be at election time, perhaps they should just be that all the time. like a child is suddenly asking good around christmas. why don't you act good every single damn day of the life. >> the electorate wants you to be like that. >> yesterday or today, debbie wasserman schultz who is the head of the democratic national committee, in wisconsin campaigning against scott walker who is doing quite well in the polls. this is how unhinged democrats are becoming, leader of the democratic party, that scott

walker has given women the back of his hand. i know that is dark. i know that is direct. i know that is reality. what republican tea party extremists like scott walker are doing is they are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. >> how sad. >> it's not going to happen on our watch. what do you make of that? >> inflammatory abusive rhetoric. that shows how bad they know it is for them. >> i agree. >> you send her out there. she's acting like a political hack. she has nothing to substantiate those comments which are quite egregious that she's making. i think it's sinful when women make comments like that and accuse men of false crimes against them, basically being a misogynist and having no regard for women or the advancements we've made. very irresponsible of her. shows say anything to win and real quickly why obama is pivoting again to domestic issues because all the polls across the board shows he's under water when it comes to the economy and the crucial issues that they need to run and win on. >> the gender gap has always been overstated. it's a gap between married women and women who are single of

minority women. >> and it's a huge gap. one of the races that some people thought could actually be in trouble was the minority leader, mitch mcconnell in kentucky, but a poll just came out right before the show, several of the polls, one of them a cnn poll, 50%, he's ahead of his opponent grimes. okay. ahead. how young is too young for kids to have cell phones? we'll find out if greg has one. one company is actually making them for 5- test

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♪ yeah. a lot of parents like to keep tabs on their kids by giving them cell phones to use when they are not at home. but what about for kids as young as 5? do they really need them? sprint just made a special one for them, and those kids are up to 12 years old called a wee go device, whatever that means. all right. eric, you've always worried about your kid with a cell phone. what do you think? >> i think he got his first cell phone at 10. it was -- it seemed okay, and i'm not sure what -- i think kids need to be in contact with their parents. i mean, there's a lot of crazy people out there. i don't have a problem with it, bottom line.

>> i had -- i had -- i didn't have cell phones stuck on them from the time they were young but -- >> could have had a gps. >> put a gps in their car. i mean, they didn't know about it and not very happy about it. certain advantage of it and the other thing that bothers me does hurt them socially because they don't talk to each other. they sit there and text and don't know how to write. >> what do you mean? >> ever read that stuff? >> they text. >> it turts them socially if they don't have one. if they are in a classroom and everyone has a phone their life is over. i think it's great because it shuts them up. remember the old phrase, kids should be seen and not heard. >> once you give them the phone they never talk, too busy going like this. the day they are born they should get it. easier for us to steal their buysicles than candy and it shuts these brats up. >> what about kids with cell phones in classroom? >> oh, my gosh. you should be focused on your

academic. check your cell phone at the door or in your cubby or something like that. i'm not opposed to children having at a certain age, and i think it has to be specific to that child. the parents have to make a decision about their maturity and how responsible they can be. you can program a phone, have a lot of limits on it and they can just like call home or 911 or angry birds on it. >> this is made specifically for kids so i think the market is answering a demand. besides, how many kids do you see everywhere, they are hon their parent's phone playing a game. >> constantly. >> might as we will have their own. >> they are here to stay. nothing you can do about it. one more thing is up next. >> what energy.

it's time now for one more thing. dana? >> you know i'm a big fan of sports. >> really. >> and there is the basketball world cup, like the world cup

thing of basketball. the world hoop thing that is happening in spain, but you've got to see this because our team, usa, was playing new zealand. new zealand decided to do a little traditional war dance for them before they got started. >> so hot. ♪ >> okay. so -- i give them points for style, but the usa still won, 98-71. >> yeah. we don't intimidate easily, dana. >> at least not on the basketball stage. >> all right. >> let me tell you about my favorite warrior that just came in to the world, yes. and momma did her job well. god bless jenna lee had a

beautiful baby boy in the early morning hours of september 3rd weighing at 7.11. he's the third brian babbin, so they are calling him trace which is super cute and his middle name is in honor of mark allen lee a navy s.e.a.l. teammate who was killed in iraq on august 1nd, 2006. jenna is doing fantastic and feast your eyes on that beautiful baby boy and i wonder what he's doing with his first moments of life, if we can take the next picture, please. he's watching the-5- >> that's great. >> i know. i hope he didn't look at bob too long. >> congratulations to the happy family. >> congratulations, you guys, awesome, awesome stuff. okay. so if you love dogs and love video like we do, check out this new go proite them. >> oh, i want this. >> looks fantastic.

>> just what we need. >> this guy walter, a little dog named walter, strapped with a go pro, it's a harness called fetch, and look how fun this is. can you imagine how much fun jasper would have. >> the helmet people. >> no, no, it's a camera on walter's back and he can go in the water and go underneath. >> you have to get this for jasper. >> if you don't have a go pro or no go pro stock, look at it. everybody is going to go go pro. >> i have a go pro for my go pro, amazing. >> time for this. >> man an innovator. >> i hate these people! >> so this video is about two years old. here you have a bunch of people putting a ladder in a dumpster helping a couple of little baby bears, cubs, if you will, to climb out of a trapped dumpster. pretty adorable, huh? that was two years ago, imagine the size of those cubs now and the fact that they can eat you. i hate these people! all right.

bob? >> oh, my gosh. you like anything that's a baby. >> i had my son here for the weekend, and he -- which is why i started the show he did, whether he had to get up every day and worry about terrorists, and i said to him i think this country is well prepared, go about living your life, enjoy football and the fall and grow up and be a good kid. this is not hitler. this is not stalin. this is isis. they will be beaten and beaten quickly so don't waste a second of your time worrying about it. let us big adults who think we know what we're talking about talk about it. >> nice one, bob. set your dvr so

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thank you for starting your morning off with us. overnight violent riots breaking out at the same detention center e where more than 30 inmates broke free early this week. over 20 teenage felons tried to break free they were armed with sticks and metal poles and started attacking the guards. swat tes teams were called in. six teens who escaped monday are still on the run. patients at a new york psych at trick center attacked staff with kitchen utensils. half a dozen inmates turned on workers in the kitchen and at the same time another fight was breaking out on the floor above. >> the hunch after