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photoshop. none of what you see is real. i am here with joanne nosuchunsky and he wrote for "cheers" the show he recreates nightly with his personalities. he is one of the founders of the great website ricochet.com. he currently serves alongside a kennedy. camille foster, host of the independent make sure you get that joke. you can't spell lou dobs, without the sob. sitting next to me, lou doobs. he is also co author of the book "border war." >> a block. the lede. that's the first story. >> can their tricks help carrot sticks? hollywood is interested in

another kind of green pushing veggies on impression only -- impressionable youth. the parody for flicks like "divergent" and" space balls" and snack food's mortal enemy, michelle obama. here is a condensed clip. >> we are divided into factions. they included the candy club, the pizza palace and the chip chubs and the pop rockers and the mellow mallos and the huffer puffs and then me. >> can't figure out what is wrong with them. >> it is like the more garbage everyone eats the you sicker they get. it is a mystery. >> are you a trained nurse? >> you are different than the others. >> i think i am a normal, healthy girl. >> i like fruits and vegetables and sometimes i have a candy bar as a special snack, but what?

>> oh boy this is bad. that is the last healthy vending machine. you are their only hope. >> you can't even feed yourselves anymore? the food is right there. >> don't you hate when trailers give away the whole movie? >> yummy. hollywood's effort to crush candy bars is the subject of tonight's. once again we are joined by a live studio audience panel. thank you all for being here to neat. before we begin a show of hands how many would like me to smear cottage cheese all over my naked chest? i am afraid that is last night's show. rob, you work in show biz or

so you claim. i like to claim show biz. this is my theory. what if hollywood used their talents against something that mattered like jihaddism instead of junk food? it is too easy to go after cup cakes. why not al-qaeda? >> actually it is hard. cup cakes are delicious. it would be more lining up to the sprinkles al-qaeda store 6789. remember when gary coleman said on -- sat on nancy reagan's lap? a lot are now legal. it is better for hollywood to stay out of it altogether. and that little trailer which by the way -- if that was a cut down i would hate to see the sketch. >> 37 minutes. >> that is a long one. i don't want to see this movie. >> as you said, the just say no thing, look what happened

to gary coleman. >> i can't remember what happened to him. i know it was not good. >> it was not good. it ended badly. >> you are a big fan of the star of that video we are talking about in the green room. what did you make of this? >> i make of it that apparently some people had a lot of free time on their hands and there was one spare carrot and they didn't know what to do with it. they gave it to the first lady. i don't understand the whole thing. we have done so much with school lunches without a lot of help from first ladies or government, but maybe this is something better. kids have decided not to eat at all. >> we are promoting anorexia and bulimia. camille, i think the video may have an opposite effect causing kids to swamp twinkie stores. there are twinkie stores, aren't there? or dorito hubs out in the

plains, the fruited plains of america. >> i it is entirely possible. >> they will snort the orange powder. do you think this is worth while and a waste of time? >> i don't mind humor attempts to have a gender associated with it. you can't compromise the funny. it can't be political before it is funny. and this was uncomfortably funny. you take vegetables and you make them less funny than they are. it was really bad. when you are horrifically drunk you never reach for a carrot stick. it is a stick of butter. >> i actually made an egg sandwich last night. i didn't realize how much butter i put on there. it was dripping and it was delicious. >> did you eat it in bed? >> it soaked everything up. it was awesome. >> and then you say what did i do? >> people pay good money for pictures. >> i am not in the cloud sir.

>> he is sitting here at the table though so you don't need the cloud. >> when you label food good or bad they develop a complex. he then see food as evil -- they see food as evil and it is not. that's how eating disorders start and seeing things like that and kids who don't have their fun snacks in the -- what are they called? vending machines. they are going to binge when they leave school. they are angry and they are frustrated and they are going to do like ice bucket videos, but it will be a bucket of lard like look at me, michelle, look what i am doing. >> i am going back to my original point. it bugs me a highly produced video is being produced and they can use the same energy to counter a terror threat. do videos that mock the losers. usual special effects to scare the hell out of them. that's where they are getting their skills and expertise.

>> and there are plenty of young americans who are in syria and iraq. maybe we can save -- i would rather have a bunch of fat kids, none of whom are beheading each other on youtube. a bunch of lean, cut young men in syria. >> there are not a lot of fat -- you notice with radical islam, not a lot of people -- fat people screaming and yelling. >> it must be the absence of twinkies. one of the reasons their culture has not kept pace with western civilization. i love it when we make discoveries like this. i see the body of public knowledge in front of our eyes. that means its solutions are at hand. >> that was an amazing way to button up that segment. do kids need tricks to learn 9 plus 6? we did the math and common core is a stupid chore. this week, my favorite kind of week, a local news station in

buffalo, love their wings. >> broadcast a series of videos to understand their children's common core homework. here is a new way to add 9 plus 6. the old way took forever. >> our young learners may not be altogether comfortable thinking about what 9 plus 6 is. they are comfortable thinking about their friend ken. 10. 10 is emphasized when we are working in a base 10 system. if we can partner 9 to a number and anchor 10 we can help our students see what 9 plus 6 is. so we are going to decompose our 6 and we know 6 is made up of parts. one of its parts is a 1 and the other part is a 5. we are now going to anchor -- >> shoot me. >> anchor our 9 to a 1. allowing our students to anchor to that 10. now our students are seeing that we have 10 plus 5.

and 10 plus 5 is much more comfortable than 9 plus 6. >> that was easy and it only took 54 seconds. 9 plus 6 is so terrifying we partner 9 to 10 and 6. >> jerry had 37 baseball cards at the beginning of thethroughot jerry gave 16 cards to his brother, sam. we want to find out how many baseball cards jerry has left. so the first thing we will do is build our whole. >> who starts building a whole? it is a word problem! here is the common core method for long division. >> one potato. two potato, three potato, four. five potato, 6 potato, 7 potato more. >> see i learned so much there that i didn't know before. camille, do you feel bad -- by

the way, i might be totally wrong and it may actually work. it it doesn't work. >> i am deeply skeptical. i don't understand why we are teaching arithmetic when we have calculators. they are amazing and you can punch in any combination of numbers with a symbol in between and it gives you an answer. >> listen to bob spell out funny words. >> it is boobless. you remember boobless. i don't even know how to do boobless. i know you read it upside down and it was boobless. >> it was funny. >> it was funny. >> every one of of those videos we saw was funnier than the funny video. >> i forgot what 9 plus 6 is. >> well remember 10 is your friend. >> 10 is your brother. >> and you are about to rip him off of the baseball cards. >> you have a minute. anybody, anything can come up with the right answer if you

have a minute. blackie and scooter can come up with the right answer if you give them a minute to do it. i am sure. actually i disagree. i think memorizing the stuff is good. it is discipline. the kids are actually better. >> there are other things to memorize. we don't need to memorize phone numbers anymore. >> what if you lose your phone? >> there is "war and peace." you don't need this. >> we are number 99 in the country rankings for math. use calculators. >> number one and two are korea and china. are they doing that? are they saying 10 is your friend? they say tell me what 9 plus 6 is and memorize it and i will beat you to death. >> you know what, that works. lou, i loved multiplication tables. tws fun. it was fun. it was drone work. >> what i love is the common core now frowns upon having a memory. it is cheating if you actually learn something and have at

your command a series of numbers that can be replaced by camille's calculator. this is a generational thing. my generation after we gave up the stone tablets, we just used our minds. my kids actually look at me strangely when i do a calculation without a calculator. >> that's often because you are wearing a toga. why do you always do that at home? toga lou they call him. joanne, you didn't want kids before, but you must want them now. >> i need them to explain to me the math because i certainly didn't understand that. the thing is with kids they ask why. why is this? why is this? the educators took it literally. okay i guess i have to explain why 9 plus 6 is 15. i am still young, but we had to memorize our simple addition and subtraction and multiplication. we had flash cards and it would be a game. whose ever team could get the

answer right first you win and that's how you learn. you also had word problems. there were the two yes, gerbils that did whatever. >> richard goes to a pet shop and gets two gerbils. >> only one comes back. >> one comes back shaking uncontrollably and doesn't want to be held. >> isn't there a survey that suggested we have a dirth of people who don't know what 9 plus 5 is. >> have you been to quizno's? >> they have registers, the cash registers. >> with pictures on them. >> here is my question. there are three of us or four of us who work at fox. you get a lot of mail from angry parents about common core. when i was on my book tour you

have to do this. you give me information. i don't know what you are talking about. i don't have kids. but it is like a huge passionate thing. do you do it on your show a lot? i don't because i don't know how to explain it. >> the government has succeeded in a stealth campaign to completely convert the nation's public school's curriculum. it is an amazing achievement. it is one of which it should be proud. parents are infuriated across the country. >> one of the politicians i admire for real is jeb bush. he is a common core supporter and i think it started or its goal is to establish very rigorous national standards. the problem is when you do that you end up with something idiotic. 10 is your friend and 9 is scary. that's part of the problem. left in the hands of professional educators there is no possibility of education.

>> or professional politicians like jeb bush. >> these are folks walking around. they have basically immense privilege and paw roughing go tiff -- perrogative. aside from the math and the mechanics of it all, that woman and her tone as an educator, my god if i had been nine years old listening to something like that i would have run out the door. >> i find it quite soothing. i enjoyed -- i could have listened to her -- >> would you rather a robot? >> i thought about robots. i think about robots for everything. >> i think she was actually trying to help parents. >> i want to say how wrong i was. i think this woman was terrific. i wassen -- was enraptured by this m would. >> the whole 10 is your friend

thing. why do we call numbers odd? that's weird. isn't that hurtful? if you will start personalizing numbers -- >> prime. >> and what is with negatives? >> coming up, i don't know what that meant or did i? lou doobs wrestles a 35 foot cobra. that is directed at america fer fer -- america ferrara. first, what should we do to isis? part 4 in a never ending saga.

americans are taking up arms and it has set off alarms. on wednesday, a day of the week, lou, the defense secretary said over a hundred u.s. citizens have traveled to the mideast or the middle east to fight with isis forces. and as nbc news reported, one of them was busted last month at kennedy airport. don morgan tried to enter syria from turkey to join the jihadys, but he was stopped at the airport in istanbul. why do they stop them? from saw suburban north carolina he converted after failing to get through boot camp. the 44-year-old excop talked to nbc news this summer while in the middle east. >> i purchased the ticket with

the intent of entering syria after joining up with medical and food aid or directly with the islamic state. >> does he think he is participating in the terrorist activities? >> based on the definition, yes. >> he is like that toy that kids have when you shake it and it is bald. what is it called? >> what did you play with? >> i think that is from your dream. >> then it was a unicorn. lou, he said he was participating in terrorist activities, but only based on our definition of terrorism. should we cut him some slack? >> none whatsoever. i would like to be kind about these things, but he is obviously an idiot and one that aspires to being a lethal idiot. >> just because you are incompetent doesn't make you less evil. it just makes you bad at being evil. >> and to have an attitude,

there is a sense of personal superiority about it all. i don't see where he earned it. >> he didn't. camille, he wasn't arrested for terrorism, but i think for trying to sell a gun on ebay or something. what should we do. you are a libertarian. >> i don't think there is anything wrong with ideals to the government noticing someone wants to go to a hotbed of terrorism. they are tracking that person and following them. my objection has been mass surveillance. if you are doing that, it doesn't strike me as particularly efficient. we don't need to be watched. they do. he did say a hundred people. he miss spoke. a pentagon official suggested it was around a dozen odd people who may be with isis. the rest are joining these various groups that are out there. which i think is a great object lesson we ought to take away from the situation. folks are changing affiliations all the time. i don't know if we want a greater share of the

responsibility for the horrible, horrible mess that is going on in the middle east and in syria and iraq. >> he is making an interesting point, rob. it seems like everybody over there is at war with each other. it could end up reducing the -- what lou has described as evil. i don't know where he got that idea. >> it is better to have them kill each other than killing us? >> yeah. >> you think that, but al-qaeda has decided to move to india. what we have is classic free market libertarians. they are now competing with each other and creating new markets to themselves to expand. that's not necessarily a good thing if you are hanging out in the peaceful united states of america. i won't be happy until that guy is in an orange jump suit in guantanamo bay. if you squint you can see what he would look like a in the cuban sunshine and i can't wait to see it. what i want to know if it is a hundred or a dozen or however

many are overseas, who is watching rachel maddow? no, just kidding. joanne, you dated this guy briefly in the 90s. did you think dumping him would -- >> i was trying to forget that. >> you turned so many men to radical islam. >> i would like to date men who weren't held as children. i think that's why they end up like this. i hate interviews like this. i hate that we give them any sort of -- it is not praise, but trying to humanize them. other people who may turn radical see this and they go, oh, wow, look at this. i can have that too. i can work toward something. even though that something is completely against everything our country stands for. and they should just go and never be allowed to come back. >> it is the same thing about the coverage of spree killers. the mentality is no different than a spree killer. they are isolated losers there

is their way to get back at the world. i always say we shouldn't be doing these "20/20" specials on a guy who just shot up a school. they know it causes this to happen more. unless you mock them mercilessly with a funnier die video. there is a great piece by a philosopher in the "new york times" and his name escapes me. he says they are not fundamental lists. fundamental list holy men have no issue with nonbelievers. these guys want to kill everyone who is nonbelievers who makes them inferior losers. why would you want to kill nonbelievers if you are secure about your religion. >> why does one care if he is secure in his or her religion. >> i don't believe you.

>> the idea that people are trying to psychoanalyze terrorists. part of the problem is there is a short circuit between our terrorists and the armed forces. we don't need to understand and we don't need to talk about long wars. we need to talk about short wars and immediate victory. >> the notion that you don't need to understand the problem that you are trying to deal with. the notion that you are at war with a bunch of guys as opposed to ideology. >> i admire the perspective you bring to it. how successful has the long war viewed the comprehension of culture? how is that -- how has that worked? we went after the taliban. we started it in 2002.

now it is 2014 -- it it was a short war. our special operations forces and our intelligence forces secured afghan -- afghanistan for nine months. >> so where are we now with this ignorant view of mine that we should spend a little time killing them rather than all the time killing them. >> ace suggested a a moment ago, the notion that you secured it for nine months and then it went to crap immediately after that. the notion that it was secured through the americans or who ever else you wouldcall it. >> those were americans. >> it was secured and then the notion we invested 10 years of effort, blood, sweat and tears. >> you left out a word. blood, sweat, tears and high levels of intellectual energy on the part of our -- >> that did not work out.

>> we destroyed al-qaeda and something came out of it. if you don't understand -- >> that is a lack of understanding. >> what about the sectarian tensions and the realities that were there. >> i learned so many new words just now. my vocabulary is growing. >> i never know where things are going to go with this great show. next we are going to talk about homecoming. oh we are elevating. >> tonight's sponsor is bottomless glasses. most hold liquids, but not ours. our glasses are incapable of holding anything. turn any party into a party foul with bottomless glasses. great for spills and ruining your things. thanks bottomless glasses.

it is not made for the person sitting between two people. there is a guy going, what do i do with my hand? >> i just want to let -- i just want everyone to get along. >> is she a jerk for not letting them twerk? a vermont high school

principal has canceled the homecoming dance because she is sick of the 6 liesed dancing. -- sexualized dancing. she blames miley cyrus in a letter to the local paper sue mcgwire says, since miley cyrus took the stage twerking on the mtv music awards it crossed the line. she notes that the highly 6 liesed -- sexualized dancing makes some people know it is possible. i feel the same way when jeraldo is in the green room. they canceled the dance, but they kept the football game. which is worse for our kids? >> i am an expert in twerking.

and lady of course, you saw the video which you couldn't even show. >> it is with the butts. it is amazing. >> the problem is vermont is 96% white. i checked it today. and white people can't twerk anyway. >> i don't think it is a racial issue. >> i feel like she should just let them try. it can't hurt you to try. >> camille, do you buy his theory? >> i will say the principal is right. at least a little bit. miley cyrus is a terrible ambassador -- ambassadoress? of trerking. that is -- twerking. that is beyonce knowles. she has all of the appropriate assets. i think assets is what we are looking for.

twerking is a skill and you work on it and master it. >> how long will we keep it up? she ruined a a beautiful art form. i think miley it is not sex awe l the way she does it. beyonce is somewhat sexual. >> that's uncomfortable. >> i have something to say. i am on the board of the homeless youth agency in hollywood called my friend's place. miley cyrus at the video music awards gave her mic to the homeless guy and i know people made fun of of it. she did an amazing thing for us and i am eternally grateful. she can twerk all she wants. >> now i feel bad because he was the -- he was homeless not because he didn't have a home,

but he left his home. >> it is the thought that counts is all i am saying. >> she should have said -- >> good for you forgiving her props. >> she can twerk all she wants. she is a twerking hero. >> she is a twerking class hero. >> wow, you just did that. >> i just did that. >> you seem surprised. >> there is nothing weirder than hearing grown men talking about twerking and analyzing everything. >> you were in high school, joanne, like a month ago. is it worse than before? >> it is definitely worse. i remember my friends and i had homecoming dances and when we danced we did silly dancing. it was like the shopping cart or the water sprinkler and all of that stuff. this is gross. there is an easy solution. parents are invited to the homecoming dance as well. any girl that twerks in front

of her father has no soul. >> wait a minute. i am watching miley cyrus. billy ray has seen it all. >> i am jaw jamaican and i don't know if you are familiar with carnival? grinding, winding, daggering? >> yes, i heard of daggering. >> are you claiming authorship? >> no, i am not claiming authorship. when i do this it means business and not claiming authorship. >> that's a bill clinton thing. >> or i am holding a pen. in which case i am bob dole. >> he has the thumbs sticking up. >> he will use any hand. where are we in this story? >> i want to commend you on your work with homeless teens. i often say i am working with homeless teens, but i am lying. . >> that's because they are staying in your home. >> they need a roof over their head.

>> saves me again. >> that was a pretty good topic. we will talk trucks on on teen corner. it is going to be rad, to the extreme and in your face. also not cool. if you haven't ordered it yet you are not cool which makes you cool and which means you shouldn't order it. no, order. it amazon.com, autographed copy, g, g gutfeld.com.

and now it is time for america's favorite segment. most call him lou daabs and most call him lowell daabs. lol. >> previously on lowell daabs. >> the president today is stepping forward to lead a fight against the islamic say the. against the islamic state. >> thank you. >> well, the thing is he has to stir up the base. i hate to be so blunt with you -- >> i can handle it.

>> it is the perfect amount of happy days chortling. >> chortling? my broadcast chortling? that was beautiful. they are more gloomy than the baby boomy. mill 11 yell's trust is way lower than previous generations. new studies show 16% of high school gene yes, sirs -- of high school seniors can't be trusted. one-third of seniors felt that way. i do not trust the government as far as i can throw a car which is not very far at all. sounds like we need a pep talk with those we can trust and i know the person. >> welcome to teen corner.

they have a strict no adults allowed policy. that is radical enough for this bad boy. i would like to share a letter with another fan and they are writing me con constantly. this is josh from denver. my son flew to new york city to attend a get rad with greg seminar. we haven't heard from him since. we got a postcard from him saying "i'm fine" greg's awesome. i'm not dead. it didn't look like his hand writing. we are worried and we are thinking of contacting -- don't even think about that. you will see him soon enough. i'm sure you will. let's talk about teen corner or whatever we are doing. as the only mill 11 y'all on the -- mill 11 yell do you have similar feelings of mistrust? >> yes, deep seeded and i have gotten a lot of solid and imperical feedback.

>> you have been way ahead of the curve on mistrust. rob certain factors like technology and media, are they to blame? >> not to blame, but they are part of the factors. the millenials put the guy in the white house and he is the chief betrayer and the commander-in-chief and he is the one he feels most betrayed by. you are right that government is not the solution. the younger you are disillusioned, the better. it makes you more vulnerable. it is good for everybody. the vol gnarrable mill 11 y'all -- a vulnerable mill -- mill 11 yell is a good >> i am not sure why they are voting in larger percentages. what i thought was interesting about the study is while the trustworthiness or their perception of other people is

sliding they are increasingly optimistic. if you look at the trends together it looks like people who generally speaking are interested in evidence and analytics and data. that's a good thing and maybe technology is driving it and we are out sourcing trust with apps like yelp. you know where to go and who to trust. you are sourcing your news. >> we don't watch the news. we watch scandal. i am convinced it is tv shows and movies. the other day i was convinced someone was following me. they are like, i don't know. i have a second mom or something weird. why mistrust? it is because of all of the stuff i am watching. >> are you watching "homeland" and you thought your boyfriend at the time was a a secret jihadist and he was.

stop bringing that up. you signed a waiver. >> i apologize. i think it is bad for your generation if you sound like the name of a cookie. >> mint millenials. >> why is it bad for them? why is it bad for them to be dis illusioned? >> we suffer in every other area of our lives. relationships, we never trust. >> honey, nobody ever trusts in relationships. >> why have we decided that being wary is not blindly trusting and it is the same thing as being disillusioned. one is not nighs carl -- one is not necessarily related to the other. >> it is a positive thing. it means you have acquired knowledge. you are sober and skeptical. you don't believe in panics

anymore. >> and you don't believe in a big, fancy solution. as an example the major add strags initiative was health care. these things don't work. you had to be naive to think it did work. we have to move on. coming up, joan rivers, dead. gonna talk about that. stick around. here is a transition. do you have video of animals? send them to us on fox news.com/red eye. do you see that arrow? when you compare the top speed of dsl from the phone company

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>> all right. joanne nosuchunsky and lou doobs. lou dobbs. that was a hell of a show. see you next time. bye. a

fox news alert. some very sad news tonight. a legend in the world of comedy, joan rivers passed away today at the age of 81. we'll look back at her life and her remarkable career this hour. also this hour, the department of justice is going to launch a civil rights investigation into the ferguson police department over the shooting of michael brown. but first, would their time be better spent investigating the muslim terror threat here at home? some very concerning developments. an american may be behind a social media blitz by isis. a computer wiz from boston is reportedly accused of helping the terror network spread its propaganda. then there's this american, don morgan, from north carolina. the former lawsuit officer and