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degrade and destroy isis. to have the kind of coalition that will be required for the sustained effort we need to push isil back. the goal has to be to dismantle them. we are going to have to find effective partners on the ground to push back against isil. >> is it to destroy isis or push it back, mr. president? you also said you want to manage the jihadists. good luck with that. even henry kissinger thinks you need to come up with a better strategy quick. >> i think when they kill an american, when they cut the throat of an american on television and distribute it around the world then a measured response is inappropriate. you can't play this as a normal state to state game. >> let's go back to the bucket list. do you think becoming a good president is on his bucket list? >> it's at the bottom of list
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and never get to it. he's not sure. somebody has to hold up the cue card to let him know who the bad guys are, who the good guys are and the bad guys can't be managed. he's not on message with the rest of the his administration or the rest of the organizations like cia or department of defense. it's all over the place. it's the most schizophrenic response i've ever seen. >> by the way, i love that dress. i know it's uncomfortable for you. as you probably can guess i don't want to talk about isis. the idea of destroying isis is crazy, it's not going to happen. you are going to push them back. you shouldn't talk about wiping them out. they have been around since 1720. but you can push them back. they are being pushed back as we speak now and we're
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overestimating it. >> dana, you know, 9/11 is approaching, i think a lot of us are concerned they would love another victory on american soil. should we worry or be okay with this bifurcated or schizophrenic national foreign policy? >> everything i ever learned about terrorists is we think about the anniversaries a lot more than they do, so they will strike us when they are ready. of course, they like to us be worried that 9/11 will be a problem. i actually think september 12th might be just as dangerous for us because they are waiting for us to let down our guard. there's a question that the media is not asking which is this. why is there a scramble right now to try to push back isis? if, indeed, the president had in his presidential daily brief since january regular updates on isis and warnings, you had congressional testimony, why now all of a sudden scrambling at the nato meeting to pull together a coalition to push
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back isis? why not -- the american taxpayer invest as lot of money into our military, into our intel and we entrust the president of the united states to uphold the most solemn obligation of his oath which is protect the country. why do we have to make scrambled eggs every time there's a crisis concerns me and it's a question the media has to ask along with the question what do we do next? the thing about the stonehenge thing, the picture i don't mind the president spontaneity 20 minutes sightseeing and knocking something off his bucket list but the white house said they are not worried that about optics. today the president of the united states standing alone amongst the rocks by himself. there's the picture of the one woman there. i would have asked david cameron or somebody walk with him, get some staff, take the pilot, whatever you have to do so you don't have to -- he's standing alone. i don't think it's a good optic. >> it's an image.
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>> he wanted to go there because he wanted to see what real stones look like. >> i get that. >> two things. stonehenge for a second. it is smart with all that's going on and everyone is waiting to see who he gets to come help us combatting isis to say wow this is so cool, stonehenge, right? here's another thing off my bucket list. is he just tone deaf what the american people are waiting on? they don't want to hear stonehenge, bucket list, cool. >> it's a symptom of a much larger issue. we can't fight the real threat if we no longer can identify the real threat. the pc movement has effectively castrated two generations. when we have an exalternatival threat we don't even know what it looks like. we don't think it's threatening because we're too fearful of being accuse evidence bigotry. we have a lot of great progress
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that's happened in this country but it doesn't mean anything if you're headless. the country has to you night and unite and stop bickering and look that there's something out there that want all of us dead, doesn't matter whether you're white, black, hispanic, uruguay, what's the point of gay marriage if you don't have a head. >> the point is, if we're united airlines, that's a good point but you don't want him to play golf or go stonehenge. it's okay to go the bathroom. >> we would like him not to have fun while americans are being beheaded. >> he was on tour 30 minutes. >> can you imagine all eyes are on the globe waiting to see what he's going to do because frankly isis is a threat to a lot of people not just americans. everyone is waiting and this is what he comes up with. this is really cool. stonehenge i knocked something off my bucket list. >> the other thing, we spend a lot of money from the american
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taxpayers to put together a military in iraq that didn't do its job. >> i sis is spreading. >> you know why? it's okay for you to put down the iraqi people that have suffered a lot of loss of lives because you got muslims killing muslims over there. the bottom line if we set them up for success instead of failure by providing infrastructure to help them. >> that's what we did. >> isis is spreading. everyone is surprised. listen to this very carefully. back in 2007 president bush 43 predicted what would happen in iraq if the u.s. with drew too soon. watch this one very carefully. >> begin withdrawing before our commanders tell us we're ready would be dangerous for iraq, for the region, and for the united states. it would mean surrendering the future of iraq to al qaeda.
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it would mean we would risk mass killings on a horrific scale. it would mean we allow the terrorists to establish a safe-haven in iraq to replace the one they lost in afghanistan. it would mean increasing the probability that american troops would have to return at some later date to confront and enemy that's even more dangerous. >> seven years ago. dana. >> he was very clear about threat and the concern and right after that moment that was in july of 2007, then general david petraeus comes back from iraq and tells the president i think there's a better way and president says what is it? david petraeus explains the surge and the president says general if we do that then we're doubling down and he says no, mr. president, we're all in. that is why they considered one of the most courageous presidential decisions in modern times because it was so unpopular. >> it was successful.
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>> it took six months for it to be successful but once it took hold it really was handing a victory to president obama and i believe that he left too soon and then -- that's a good word. >> can we get bob's reaction. here's a man seven years ago warned this would happen if we left too soon. a lot of people say we left too son. obama screwed up. >> if you would produce what president bush said we have to wait for the commanders to give us their best advice. as far as i month the commanders did say that they agreed with the withdrawal schedule that they had. now if you have somebody that says they didn't then tell me about it. that's what the president said. >> i could be completely wrong. you replace all the commanders that said we should stay. >> there was comment from the generals saying they were concerned and they were accused
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of wanting to perpetuate war. that wasn't their aim. they wanted to finish the job dynasty well. then we have this situation ich means we have to do even more difficult things in the future with less people on the ground. in addition to that, when you pull the troops out you also pulled out you meaning the united states, we took all of our intel people with them. intel is the most important asset that you have on the ground. that way you find out isis is planning to take over oh, you know the size of great britain and start raising taxes on people, killing them. isis is raising about $120 million a day in taxes. >> so, in taxes could mean paying isis to stay alive. >> right. >> you want to jump in on president bush? >> you know, i'm really tired of the who said what first because we have a bigger issue here and it's a country that can't unite any more because we don't see the point. we're all busy playing team
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sports with this issue when we could just say all right, maybe bush was right, maybe christopher hitchins was right and no one listened to him because he was an atheist. the who is right stuff has to stop. we have to get this country back together and marshal our forces to fight this evil and get rid of this stupid team bs. what helps sues finding a new leader, somebody who can emerge and speak eloquentally about what's wrong. >> there will be new leader but 2 1/2 years away. >> somebody that isn't him, that's in his party or from another country who stands up and prevents the western decline because that's what we're talking about. a western decline. the problem is the west doesn't
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care. >> can i throw something else, instead of who is right, how about who is wrong? >> that's not president obama. he won't admit he was wrong. his first response is to pivot and blame someone in the past. his favorite thing is to blame one of the bushes. why not. let's blame bush. >> tell me one time he said that recently. >> blame bush. >> yeah. >> this is what he does all the time. this is bush's problem too, remember because oh, he wanted to go for democratication of iraq. >> i think it was a bad war. >> that's the point. you feel that way. let's say enough let's look at
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the current threat. the true unif ier may not be obama. it may be an act against us that will force us to yunify. >> the president then has to make decisions and not be afraid of american power and american success. >> sadly he may be forced to because -- it looks that way. >> but who surrounding him is actually going to do that? >> believe it or not maybe biden. who knows. i'm getting desperate. >> you are. >> politics show he has no other recourse then he will be forced to act but it will be too late and due to some catastrophic horrible event because he done have it in him to make this leadership decision like bush did at the time to double down and do the surge like you said it was politically courageous, the right thing to do and that's where great leaders step in to do not what the poll told them
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to do, what they know in their heart and mind is the best interest of the people of this country. we're waiting mr. president. >> i'm sorry to listen to this bashing of the president. >> will hollywood help the fight against sis. city tuned for that and more when the five returns. [ breathing deeply ]
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a new video from funny or die attacks junk food by vamping resulten young adult flicks like the "hunger games." it feature snack foods mortal enemy, michele obama watch or die. >> we divide into factions, one six. the candy flow, the pop rockers, mellow mallows and then there's me. >> like the more garbage everybody's the sicker they get. >> a mystery. >> your a trained nurse >> you're different than the others. >> i think i'm just a normal healthy girl. >> exactly. >> don't you hate when trailers giveaway the whole movie? >> yeah. >> so here you have an exquisitely produced film promoting a cause dear to the
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obamas the war on junk food, bravo let's crush those krispy kremes, drown dr. pepper. but imagine if hollywood channelled this energy into something else like death cuts currently killing thousands, not twizlers but terror. what could hollywood do to degrade, mock and marginalize the lurid tools that flock loser magnets like isis. they could scare these martyrs crapless. they could expose their envy driven flaccid rage. isis is outdoing them adopting their successful film and editing technician. hollywood could return the favor 12 fold but rather focus on broccoli than beheadings, junk food not jihadism instead of the way to end an apocalyptic
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threat. they go after cupcakes? maybe because hostess won't cut off their heads. funny or die takes that die part seriously. d.p., so much wit, creativity and innovation in technology at their disposal and this is what they target in a world filled with evil. >> that was supposed to be a comedy sketch. one thing that hollywood does, it does provide people with an escape. >> yes. that's not propaganda to you, dana? >> propaganda for eating healthy? i guess maybe it is. i would take it one step further. i like the idea hollywood helping. they should team up with silicon valley because it's the digital war front. doesn't matter what we see on the tv. short little clips that are the size that can go around on a text message so you can reach a lot more people and flood them with all sorts of images. making fun of the 72 virgins would be very effective.
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>> only problem with my theory is the last guy that indict, a movie that was critical of islam went to jail. >> he was going to be killed. >> by the americans. >> on the other hand i rather them focus on broccoli than beheadings. just stick to the things you know. i have a great idea for michele obama's, her childhood obesity push. instead of this short film, snack nato. they hit you and -- >> i thought you meant snack. >> no n-a-d-0. >> protection from the carrots. >> you don't like carrot? >> no. carrot stick. >> i don't like them. >> kimberly, do you think this helps, because if you go after
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vegetable, then vegetables back bad which make them cool. >> vegetables can be delicious. the thing is you need some dipping sauces and she might be against that. you have to open your mind. maybe you're doing the greater good by dripping the broccoli in the sauce with lime or ranch sauce or my favorite thing ketchup. get the kids to eat them. whatever it takes. >> bob, serious question, to me this is proof of the doomed society. we have a leisure class obsessed with carrots not the caliphate. >> first of all, this is a -- what? this is a direct attack on the food that i like, and i think -- >> that you're wearing. >> i wouldn't be talking about was on my shirt, baby, if i were you. >> jealous. >> i am. you're right. >> this is a direct attack on everything i like and everything
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i can't stand which is vegetables. >> i think vegetables are bad for you because they grow in ground. >> they are the charles heston of healthy food. bob will out live all of us. >> there's no doubt. he's already surpassed us. in years. >> it's true. all right. i'm done with this. ahead, three u.s. security operatives on the ground in benghazi tell their story about what really happened that night. plus a special visit from bret baier next. insurance. everybody knows that. well, did you know you that former pro football player ickey woods will celebrate almost anything? unh-uh. number 44... whoooo! forty-four, that's me! get some cold cuts... get some cold cuts... get some cold cuts! whooo! gimme some! geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. whoo! forty-four ladies, that's me! whoo...gonna get some cold cuts today!
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♪ there's a new documentary airing tonight at 10:00 p.m. with brand new details about what happened the night four americans were killed in benghazi. it's called "13 hours at benghazi the inside story." it features the accounts of u.s.
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operatives that fought on the ground. bret baier interviewed them. first here's bret asking one of the crucial questions of the night, was help delayed. >> five minutes we're ready. thumbs up, we're ready to go. >> what happened >> bob looks through at me and looks at the team leader and goes you have to wait. >> bob was the cia's base chief in benghazi. >> he's on the phone talking to somebody. i assume they were coordinate us to link up with 17 february. >> probably been 15 minutes i think and i got out of the car and bob and the team leader were standing on the front porch and i said hey we need to get over there, we're losing the initiative. bob looked at me stand down you need wait. >> the house intel committee and others insist no one was blocked from responding but these security team members say they were. >> it happened. >> it happened on the ground. all i can talk about is what
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happened on the ground that night. to you. to myself twice and to tig once. it happened that night. it happened. we were told to wait and stand down. we were delayed three times. >> the officer defied order's and headed to the compound after being repeatedly told to wait. it was too late. things would have turned out much differently if they hadn't been delayed. >> if i gave you the 30 minutes back who ambassador strengthens be alive today? >> yes. they would be alive. >> you in on that? >> everybody strongly believed if we left immediately they would still be alive today. >> bret baier anchor of "special report" and host of "13 hours." bret, tell me about this. it's about two years and now we hear from people who were on the
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ground. they lay out this night in detail. they talk about the lack of security at that diplomatic facility, the consulate they call it and they talk about the battle as it ensued. you've laid out some of those sound bites about them waiting to respond as they are listening to radios of the guys just a mile away saying they are going to die if they don't get help. >> i was curious about the three individuals. why did they decide to come forward now? what's the motivation. i saw your report last night that they just wanted to get the story out there, that they don't have a political axe to grind. >> they don't. they don't have a political axe to grind. they do have a book to consistently and it's called "13 hours" and it comes out next week. they said they did this and all of it to honor their friends who were part of their team, glen doherty and tyrone woods who died on the top of the annex
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from the mortar strike. >> the special is tonight, but i already got an e-mail from president obama's media henchmen already debunking it. what do you make of that kind of harem of fans that are orchestrating rebuttal as -- the special hasn't even aired yet. this always happens. whenever there's new news about benghazi there's also a planned rebuttal. >> yeah. definitely. i mean we've seen this time and time again. i mean i just urge everybody to listen. this is their story. there's all this stuff about there was no stand down order given. you just heard what these guys said. this is their story. take a listen -- if you want to know the difference in the semantics here listen to marie at the state department today about this stand down order or something else. >> multiple times we found there
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was no stand down order, period. they said wait up to 30 minutes before they went in. so you're not disputing that. >> to get back up additional weapons so when they engaged they had weapons and back up and resources to fight back >> you're not disputing the guy on the ground in benghazi said hold off, you're just disputing it was a stand down order. >> those are two very different things. >> so, saying there's not an official stand down order but there was a wait for 30 minutes for all this back up that by the way the guys say never came. >> kimberly? >> this looks like this will be very fascinating. i'm looking forward to that. and the book. the gentlemen you interviewed and who wrote the book are they worried about repercussion or fall out from putting the truth out there? >> they had to be -- they had to talk about it amongst themselves
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whether they would do this. they are no longer contracted the u.s. government. they were cia contractors. they are no longer working for the government. after this book comes out a lot of them say they probably will never be working for the government. but they are okay with that. they think this is a story they wanted to tell. >> erick? >> i have a real question and a rhetorical question. a lot of people said it may have been an outpost to funnel weapo weapons. was that question asked of these guys? >> i talked to them about the mission. they would not go down that road. there were many things, classified things that they didn't want to talk about openly. we've reported, as you know, erick that there was an effort to gate surface to air missiles and figure out where they were in libya. whether they were funneling them anywhere we don't know.
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>> isis has beheaded two americans. when the number gets to four do you expect hillary to come out what difference does it make? >> that's the rhetorical question. >> i have a real question. two basic questions in the benghazi issue one was the question of a stand down order. this book i think help lafs that. the second one was who pushed the video. to me that's always been the very most important question. >> i said it first. >> no you didn't, i made the t-shirt. i actually did make t-shirts. did they say anything about the whole video defense? >> they did not know anything about a video. no one. nothing. zero about a video until they landed in germany and they were told that that's what the media was saying, that it was this video. they said that they didn't ever hear about it in benghazi, never had any inkling about a dust up about a video and these guys were security guys that had to
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know the threats they were facing day-to-day. >> i just want to make sure the book had to -- the government did clear the contents of this information, am i right? >> we talked to the cia, they have the book. whether there was an official sign off or not, we don't know. but they usually go through that process. >> definitely. all right. we'll be watching tonight. thank you so much for joining us. >> all right, see you guys. >> reminder "13 hours" airs at 10:00 p.m. eastern. don't miss it. up next hats the most urgent challenge the world is facing right now? according to hillary clinton, i'll give you a hint, it's not isis. find out when "the five" returns.
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♪ what would you say is the most urgent challenge facing our country right now?
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isis? maybe iran's nukes? well according to hillary clinton it's climate change. >> this is the most consequential urgent, sweeping challenges we face as a nation and a world. i'm absolutely confident we can forge the kind of clean energy future that our children and grandchildren deserve before it's too late. >> and she's not the only secretary of state on that band wagon. here's john kerry earlier this year. >> think about this. terrorism. epidemics. poverty. the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. but climate change ranks right up there perhaps the most fear
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some. confronting climate change in the lung run is one of the greatest challenges we face and you can see this duty or responsibility laid out in scri scriptures, clearly. greg, you want to take issues specifically with his reference saying god, the bible tells us we need to address this. >> kerry, what he said is telling and it's frightening for three reasons and i wrote them down. when you choose scripture over science in matters of climate change that means you're out of ideas. scriptures do not address the pause in warming that's been going on for at least 15 years or 26 years. nothing in the bible about that. number two, he's shown climate change has become a full fledge religion with god and devils and
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sins. we have indulgences which are in the shape of these carbon offsets. kerry the linking the apocalypse to a holy book. that sounds really familiar. >> all right. bolling, how do you see this? where is hillary clinton going with this. she doesn't need a republican to defeat her. >> her quote climate change is the most conhe is consequential urgent sweeping. with nukes, 92 million americans who aren't work -- if that's what a 2016 president will look like to have at the top of her agenda climate change, then we should look some where else for a president. period. this will haunt her.
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>> is this a joke? >> no that's a joke. the ad -- >> climate change is of more consequence of a threat to the united states. >> other people say they have an argument. the idea suggesting that isis is more important than climate change is absurd. that's all. >> i don't believe one increase in celsius ever beheaded anybody. >> or aaron. >> that's like sticking to the ideology and making the talking points because that sounds ridiculous, bob. it really does. you think that's the biggest concern bigger than isis or any of these other issues that's facing americans like people who can't support their families and don't have jobs or food and can't put gas in their car. let's get a focus, dana. >> you have a right-wing grudge against the president of the
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united states. >> i have a grudge against ineffective leadership. i just want him to stand up, do something. >> i have five points but i'll only make one. if secretary of state john kerry really believes that's a biblical issue would he believe that people in frooik suffering from an out of control ebola virus need our help, i would argue it does. most democrats will say that one of the things they appreciated about president george w. bush was his effective and commitment to africa. >> tirelessly advocacy. >> because it saved millions of lives. i hope the administration find as way to figure out the ebola creigh isis. if they are worried about poor people in third world countries, that issue is the most important one and actually one we can do something about. there's not one policy prescription that any of the democrats would put forward that
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would have an impact on a serious issue that is climate change. it's not the issue but ate serious one but they don't have a single thing that would bring down global emissions. they can't get a global agreement. >> they will take any issue whether it's ebola or any kind of violence and link to it climate change. they will say climate change causes everything. >> climate change causes racism. they have made that argument. >> yes. >> well, yeah. ahead, the late night hosts pay their respects to joan rivers who passed away yesterday. their touching tribute to the queen of comedy coming up on "the five."
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♪ it's the most wonderful time of the year ♪ ♪ with the kids jingle belling and everyone -- ♪ everybody watch this show, i love christmas. i'll do it one more time this year. >> every year you say it's the last time. >> however, i don't like to see christmas today when its 95 degrees in new york city and today we're promoting christmas. k-mart has come out with the very first christmas ad and it's
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95 degrees. k-mart, get it together. don't ruin this for us. let's take a look at it. i bet you can't wait. >> hello, america. it's too early for christmas so just to be clear this is not christmas commercial. maybe your entire family is having a birthday on the same day. now is the time to go k-mart and put them on layaway and pick them up in time for the nonchristmas celebration. >> well, there you go. what do you think? >> i don't think we should be having christmas ads this early. who cares. it was done the right way. tongue in cheek we shouldn't talk about christmas now and then they roll out a christmas ad. great job, k-mart. >> if you're in a swing state for election you would rather
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have christmas commercials right now than the political commercials, don't you think? >> i think that's true. >> i always remind everybody on the 25th of every month they only have so many days left of christmas shopping. i can't wait to see what greg will get me this year. >> i'll make you something. >> gator arms. every time i get stuck with him as my secret santa it's always a framed picture of yourself. >> exactly. the big point about this, this is the great thing about christianity. our only extremism is in shopping. we don't behead we just go shopping. >> you think this is okay to do this too? >> it was clever. >> they have the best jacqueline smith sheets ever. they are so soft on your skin.
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>> i'm sure -- >> what does k stand for >> korean. i'm sorry that was something else. >> what's wrong with you. how can you blow up your own segment. >> k-mart -- i wish you wouldn't have done that. it's your business and you can do what you want. one more thing is up next. [ siri ] i feel pretty. oh so pretty.
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♪ all right. time for one more thing. bob? >> we had a terrible loss this week with joan rivers passing away and the late night comedians talked about it. the only person we're missing is greg. greg had a good gig on it last night. >> the force and power of her comedy was overwhelming. i don't know a real pioneer for other women looking for careers in stand up comedy. >> she's one of the funniest people in the world ever. we loved her. we will definitely miss her. joan rivers one of the greatest. >> joan was a very lucky person because she loved her job so much and never wanted to stop. >> i wish she was here right now because if she was here right now she would make a joke about how she passed away and get away with it because it would be really funny. we will miss you joan rivers.
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>> we certainly will. >> dana, you're up. >> here's something exciting can you can do, kids and family follow on instagram my friend trey bohn. he saved up a lot of money. taking a trip around the world. you wouldn't believe the pictures and places he's been. this ad convenient stur amazing. he's seen the giant buddha. he's been to indonesia. he climbed a summit. met all sorts of people. he's the most interesting man in the world. >> you mean not greg? >> an amazing trip. >> everybody loves looking at other people's travel photos. >> why not? i do. i love to look at people's travel to, to especially sun sets. in case you want to send some. >> your going to do i hate these people. >> please send greg pictures of your travels.
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>> don't do it. i'll block you. >> i'll send you mine from disneyland. >> it's friday so it's time for -- that's right fool of the week. so many to choose from. secretary of state john kerry talking about scriptures and global warming. this one overwhelmingly had to be it. watch. >> scott walker has given women the back of his hand. what tea party extremists like scott walker are doing are grabbing us by the hair and pulling us back. >> so i think you owe all women an apology, don't use domestic violence. >> i hate giant spiders. take a look at this one. >> what?
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>> [ screaming ] >> actually as you can see it's just a dining spider costume. dogs can be really clever. >> i know one. >> that was one of the funniest pranks. >> chico the dog spider. bob didn't you see this? >> i thought it was a television movie trailer. >> bring it on home. >> so, you were ready for some football. i am. some wings and popcorn and all kinds of broccoli with dipping sauce. this you go. take a look at this. oh, my gosh brutal beating. unfortunately for the green bay packers still the champions looking like it last night. the packers were expected to be
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an nfc favorite. let's see how that shapes up. >> seattle looking tough. beast mode. set your dvr so you never miss an episode of the five. "special report" is on deck. see you monday. president obama talks tougher on isis, saying the plan now forming will take time. meantime his secretary of state says u.s. troops on the ground is the red line this administration won't cross. this is "special report." good evening i'm bret baier. president obama says his strategy on dealing with isis terrorists in syria is developing and he repeated several times his ultimate objection of defeating the terrorist army that has now overtaken much of syria and iraq. but the pronouncement has left some lawmars

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