i'm uma peopmmaraju. make it a great day, everybody. hello, everyone. i'm kelly wright. >> i'm julily banderas. president obama is backing off his pledge to act on immigration before the end of the summer, instead, waiting until after the midterm elections. plus, the search is under way for a private plane that disappeared with this couple inside off the coast of jamaica under mysterious circumstances. new developments in the irs scandal. those missing e-mails from lois lerner may not be missing at all, this as the agency says it has lost e-mails from five more employees involve nd the investigation.

but first, key american allies agreeing to help fight the isis threat spreading across iraq and syria. president obama returning from a nato2qwñ summit in wales yester vowing to destroy the terror group, saying a coalition of countries will be better able to launch an offensive against the militants. u.s. central command carrying out more air strikes in northern iraq today as we hear reports that the president will meet with house and senate leaders this week to discuss what the next steps will be in this global battle. our leland vittert joins us with more details. leland? >> reporter: tell kelly, good afternoon. remember it took three press conferences in at least a couple of weeks for the president to articulate even a clear strategy for dealing with isis. and yesterday, just before he left the nato summit, he finally stayed on message. >> you can't contain an

organization that is running roughshod through that much territory, causing that much havoc, displacing that many people, killing that many innocents, enslaving that many women. the goal has to be to dismantle them. >> republicans remain unconvinced, saying that while the president has defined a mission, they point to a lack of plan as further evidence that the white house is bungling the response to isis and allowing the terrorist group to grow into a terrorist state. >> the fact that we have let this go and especially over the last seven, eight months as we've watched these columns of isis fighters travel city by city and have not hit them by the air, this is irresponsible. >> now, we have lernled that president obama willssional lea tuesday. mitch mcconnell said about the

meeting, in part, it has become clear that the president's plan as outlined in his west point speech to train and equip the militaries of partner nations as the united states draws down its conventional forces across the globe is not tenable. it continues -- the threat from isil is real and it's growing and it is time for president obama to exercise some leadership in launching a response. now the big question is, what is that response? and whether that meeting is a prelude for asking congressional approval for further and larger military campaigns against isis, perhaps some kind of military campaign inside syria, or simply to justify the current policy by the president and his staff is yet to be seen. >> a lot of questions going forward. leland, thank you. by the way, we will be talking to general jack king later on about this very issue. julie? a new warning that islamic militants in somalia are planning revenge attacks after the death of their leader in a u.s. air strike earlier this week. somalia government officials say

they have credible evidence that al shabaab is plotting against hospitals and schools. the leader of the group was killed on monday, he is believed responsible for the west gate mall attack in nairobi kenya last year that killed 67 people. a fox news alert. president obama holding off from taking any executive action on immigration before the november elections. white house officials says he believes taking steps on his own would politicize the issue during the midterm campaign and hamper efforts to reach a broader overhaul. molly heninberg live in d.c. with all the details about this. >> reporter: hi, kelley. he may wait until after the midterms but president obama made the point yesterday during the nato summit in wales that he believes he has the authority to take action on immigration separate from congress. >> in the absence of action by congress, i'm going to do what i

can do within the legal constraints of my office because it's the right thing to do for the country. >> white house officials say the president made the decision to wait on the9 wales. immigration groups pushing for citizenship for illegal immigrants say they're, quote, disappointed. this from peco national network, quote, today the president and senate democrats have made it very clear that undocumented immigrants and latinos are simply viewed as political pawns. on capitol hill, mitch mcconnell suggested the president is still trying to, quote, rewrite the laws but wants to do it at a time that's better for democrats. mcconnell said, quote, what's so cynical about today's immigration announcement is that the president isn't saying he'll follow the law. he's just saying he'll go around the law. once it's too late for americans to hold his party accountable in the november elections. but democratic senator bill nelson who urged the president not to act on immigration this

summer said the president made the correct decision. nelson said today, quote, there's no way anybody was going to listen to an informed debate on immigration while house republicans are scared of tea party members before the election. some democrats have been concerned that if the president took executive action on immigration that it might energize republican voters who want tighter border security before citizenship for illegals right before the midterms. kelly? >> molly, reporting from d.c. on a hot toop topic. thanks of. officials say a third american aide worker expected to be infected with ebola is in stable condition and communicating with caregivers. that's good news. dr. rick#(ós sock ra is being t treated in nebraska. health officials are considering some experimental treatments including using blood serum from a recovered patient. the 51-year-old delivered babies at a hom hospital in liberia and was not involved in the treatment of ebola. he is said to be the third u.s.

aid worker to become infected during the outbreak, estimated to have killed more than 2,000 people in west africa. a search operation resuming earlier today. crews are trying to find the wreckage of a small plane that is believed to have crashed off the coast of jamaica after traveling some 1700 miles under mysterious circumstances. authorities lost contact with the aircraft shortly after it took off from rochester yesterday en route to naples, florida. two u.s. fighter jets were dispatched. they say the pilot was slumped over at the controls on board was a prominent new york couple, larry glazer and his wife jane. larry was believed to be the pilot of that plane. now to the conflict in ukraine where a cease-fire deal signed yesterday appears to be holding so far anyway. despite both sides claiming the other has violated the agreement. dominick is here with the lat t

latest. >> julie, yes indeed the cease-fire not holding very much overnight. there were potshots by the pro-russian rebels against ukrainian government positions in the ukrainian government did fire a few shells in the opposite direction. but a quiet night in donetsk. a three-way deal between the ukrainians, the russians and separatists includes the withdrawal of all heavy artillery from eastern ukraine and also the exchange of any prisoners on either side. that could happen as early as later today. and of course the all-important delivery of humanitarian aid to the region where people have been suffering amid all the fighting. but the west is very except cal about this deal, particularly of vladimir putin's role in all of this. president obama speaking in wales at the nato summit there saysm+dzv really that there's j one way that russian's sincerity in this deal can actually be

tested. >> only if there's follow-through on the ground. pro-russian separatists must keep their commitments and russia must stop its violations of ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. >> well, one thing that they agreed was that the europeans would inflict new sanctions on russia as early as tuesday in a bid to keep up pressure. that is very much what president obama wants to see, additional pressure on vlad mirt putin to prevent him from creating further incursions and taking further territory in ukraine. but ukraine's neighbors part of that nato summit are very concerned and say there still needs to be contingenccontingen >> i would say that the trust is already so much in jeopardy and it's already broken that we need to think about how to support the ukraine to make sure the cease-fire will be broken, they will be prepared. >> well, julie, the sanctions the europeans are preparing are

specifically targeting the arms and weapons technology that russia very much wants to get its hands on. also, the americans very much want to focus on preventing access to capital markets. thal be part of the sanction wez see. the russians saying there will be, quote, a reaction if the sanctions are applied. back to you. >> dominik, thank you so much reporting from los angeles. what's going on with the weather? let's take a look at it right now, the northeast bracing for owe terribly dangerous storms while crews in northern california work to protect homes from an out-of-control fire. janice dean is live with more details about this. >> if you've been outside across the northeast, you know what i'm talking about, had it feels like summertime. we've got a very thick atmosphere. look at the cold front that is invading the eastern third of the country. can you see it? right there. 70 in cannes xanz city, 90 in

memphis, behind this cold front, cooler than average temperatures and another reinforcingh2?- sho cool air later this week. but ahead of the cold front is where we see the potential for some hail, some damaging winds and even isolated tornadoes across some of the biggest cities here in the northeast. as we get into the afternoon and about strong to severe storms for all of these big cities from baltimore up all the way towards bangor, maine. again, damaging winds the main concern, but we can't rule out a tornado and we certainly could see some hail. take a look at the forecast temperatures as we go through time. 90 by 2:00 p.m. in the next couple of minutes, and then moving through time overnight tonight, look at the temperature drop, 20 degrees in just a matter of hours. things will clear out, but ahead of this cold front is where we'll see the really active weather. we also mentioned orac ed the tr wildfire danger. we have a red flag warning in

effect as well as fire conditions that are elevated because the temperatures are very warm. we've got breezy conditions, some winds off the water. that's going to give us the potential for more wildfire danger, especially across the northwest. so a lot to talk about and even a hurricane over the eastern pacific. this is norbert, going to bring a lot of moisture toward the southwest, flash flooding concerns. kelly, a lot to talk about in the weather center. >> that is quite a concern. thanks very much. well, new details emerging on the possible location of those missing lois lerner e-mails. you've got to stay tuned. >> we do indied. and the rising problem of homeless children right here in the u.s. and what one city is doing to help. also, the latest on the fight against isis. u.s. allies agree with u.s. lawmakers that the group poses a major global threat. >> isis is the face of evil.

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a plane chartered by the u.s.-led military coalition forced to land in iran. the aircraft was onity way to dubai from afghanistan. iranian officials say they ordered the plane to land so it could pay expenses and complete paperwork. the plane was carrying 110 americans. it was allowed to depart after spending several hours on the ground. new developments in the irs scandal. that is right there is more. the agency claims it has lostr1 even more e-mails from five former employees who are under congressional investigation. this after republican congressman jim jordan said hundreds of server drives could contain missing e-mails from lois lerner, who is at the center of the scandal. joining me for a fair and balanced debate, angela mcglowan and former chief of staff chris ka fin us. thank you for join\ing us. angela, when is there going to

be -- considering the new evidence which clearly shows there were multiple instancesé#f the investigation being compromised? >> julie, i think we might find the missing malaysian plane before attorney general eric holder appoints ni s anyone to . he has so many priorities over the scandals. president, president obama ran on the fact that he would hold his administration accountable. there would be transparency. waez going to change washington, d.c., as we know it. but remember when he interviewed with bill o'reilly he said there wasn't a smidgeon of corruption at the irs. so if the commander in chief is not believing it, then why should the attorney general do anything about it? >>q>b>i chris? >> well, i mean, it's tough to defend missing e-mails because it's pretty confusing i think to most americans. >> pretty suspicious. >> at a minimum, it's inexcusable. it definitely does not help the story line that this was simply

some kind of mistake or something. people just find it hard to believe how e-mails go missing. that being said, you have multiple congressional investigations ongoing right now. i think before we have to get to the point of talking about a ÷ or special independent investigator, you know, i think we wait for these investigations that are -- the house and in the senate, let's see what they find. once we have the evidence, i think we can determine -- >> we know they've managed to find and recover 14,000 e-mails for the five staffers by cross-checking other accounts. they did it the same way by discovering 24,000 of lerner's e-mails. if they can track most, why not all? it seems very selective. again, i want to go back to the word "suspicious". >> exactly. >> i'm not going to sit -- i think it's a fair point to say if you can't find theh7v directly because of some argument that your computer crashed, clearly you can find it through the secondhand recipients. i think that's a fair point. >> clearly, chris, lois lerner

said she didn't do anything wrong but she pled the fifth in the congressional hearing before the house. and congress is not a one-trick pony. we don't need a hearing in the house and senate and have other investigations. jewel sli rigulie is right. we should have independent counsel look at this because at the end of the day, we're paying all these people salaries. they taxes on time, our fair share of taxes on time. >> angela, no one is necessarily disagreeing with you. >> no. you said that we should go through the investigations. it's a waste of time and taxpayer money. >> i'm saying let's wait to see what the house and senate investigations find. by the way, the house republicans have been leading the charge so let's see what they find. >> right. >> but to be clear, the notion that somehow the irs targeted just republican group s is not true. they also tarted democratic kkv groups. >> what? >> they targeted more republican

groups than democratic groups, chris. >> i will cede you that point. but the point clearly is, let's figure out what happened here. let's see what the investigations find. and if then there's still outstanding questions, let's consider an independent investigation. >> angela, the irs is wroeding the whereabouts of -- who the committee is investigate forge allegations that -- >> right. >> strolac ka worked under loi lerner. he is alleged to be involved in targeting republican groups. hough could this not be seen as a cover-up? >> it's seen as a cover-up. the bottom line is this, i'm going back to the commander in chief because the buck stop was him. he's the head of everything. he said that he would have transparency and accountability. you cannot have accountability if you don't have transparency. and you and i, we're not working for the department of justice

and we see that it's suspicious. >> chris? final word. >> well, in terms of the irs officiallpn/ who is somehow mis, if the house or the congress wants to subpoena him, i don't know how they stay missing. i don't buy this argument that somehow the irs has ensconced him somewhere congress can't get to him. this is an equally frustrating issue for democrats and republicans. i know republicans want to gin this up as a grand conspiracy. >> it is what it is. >> but this is more about the failure of government and the idea of holding accountability i think is a fair point. that's one thing that bong democrats and republicans can agree on. >> accountability and transparency, two things we're not seeing much out of washington these days. that's all the time we have. thanks to you both. >> thanks, julie. >> thank you. think about it. it is mind-boggling to realize that here in the united states, the richest country in the planet, that homelessness is on

the rise, particularly among children. school is back in session and quite a few kids are going to school but have no place to call home. there are many programs addressing this issue in today's "beyond the dream," for example, we focus on the city of brotherly love, philadelphia. for 30 years now the city has been developed a mural arts program that in many ways is helping some teens who are homeless to find stability by overcoming homelessness. how can art change a life? how can it inspire a child who is homeless to dream they could some day have a place to call home? >> i realize that all these kids had talent and potential that had sadly and historically gone unrecognized. and i realized when they were provided art opportunities, art became a lifeline. then beyond that, we started to do murals around the city because it was needed, and it became part of this antih anti-graffiti strategy in the way the mayor had never counted on because we would start to do

the work and suddenly the graffiti stopped and more importantly people became energized by the potential of what could happen in their community. it was like the opposite of the broken window theory. good things leading good things. it was like, oh, my god, we are on to something. it was like revolutionary. >> the philadelphia mural arts >> the philadelphia mural ar or anti-graffiti program 30 years ago. it was designed to clean up the city of unsightly graffiti that defaced building and property. as children from poor neighborhoods began to see the art bring a rich tapestry to their blighted communities, they began to feel good about themselves. the program achieves its goal of helping homeless kids through a program called journey to home, a year-long project. unfortunately, there's like a huge population of homeless teens in philly who aren't being recognized so we thought art is

a wonderful way of engaging those young people and also engaging the community and the public and creating an audience for something we thought needs to be addressed. >> mural arts now attracts top-notch artists from around the world to share their knowledge and mentor homeless children. it's their way of helping children to see that each work of art is a masterpiece of inspiration to a city and to themselves. >> why are you involved? >> i'm involved because i glue up in philly. i love the city. i love being here. because i'm from here, i know what needs a little bit of help. and this program has given me the opportunity as an artist, as an activist, as someone who cares to really be able to do great creative work and great social work at the same time. >> mural arts engages now over 100 communities each year, provides free art education programs serving nearly 2,000 at-risk teens. >> i got involved in the program because the fact i was homeless at one point in my life. at one point in my life i was

struggling going from place to place. >> at times that were rough i just remember not being able to -- when i was younger, just things that i wanted, things that i saw that i knew i couldn't have. places like i never went until like now that as i'm getting older i'm started to do a lot of these things. a lot of it comes from my passion for art. >> it is making a difference, helping kids live their lives "beyond the dream." yi quite a program. we will hear next week from homeless kids finding their way out of poverty by being involved and employed by the mural arts program. it is the largest outdoor gallery in the world. >> i cannot imagine being a parent to a homeless child, the struggle day to day having to watch their children live that same life, they're unable to have themselves. >> it's good to have this outlet in philadelphia.

this a great program. a dramatic and disturbing new detail about what happened in ben gauze yif the night four american were killed. we are hearing from menl who were there during the siege in a fox news exclusive. plus, the worldwide isis becomi syria is now conducting its own air strikes. details ahead. and a live report. c ♪

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military might while putting the squeeze on the group's financial resources. this comes as syria launches its very own air strikes against isis targets.

>> as the u.s. and nate toy allies continue to discuss and figure out how to dismanlt elle isis both financially and militarily, the battle continued today with air strikes both in syria and iraq. let's first start with syria. the air strikes target the isis locations in the city of racc c- raqqa. in iraq, kurdish forces reportedly made gains pushing isis back with help from u.s. air strikes around the mosul dam in erbil. this has been a main battle front since all of this started. it represents some very

strategic military battle poi points. so far, the u.s. has conducted 133 air strikes across iraq, that according to u.s. central command. it released a statement saying the air strikes today around mosul hit various isis military locations, including vehicles, humvees and humvees mounted with machine guns. on the diplomatic front, as we've been reporting, president obama speaking at the end of the nato summit in wales yesterday called an on international coalition of nato and arab allies to, quote, degrade and ultimately destroy isis. again, calling on the international community to get together and dismantle them financially and militarily isis. and this week the president plans to meet with both house and senate leaders to discuss the next steps going forward and ultimately how to get all these various forces, all the international and arab allies,

together to fight isis. we'll see what happens. julie? >> john huddy, thank you so much. kelly? for more on this matter, general jack keane is a former vice chief of staff and chairman of the institute for the study of war and a fox news military analyst. he joins us now. general, we've been following the developments now. the key word from the president as we're hearing it is "degrade and destroy isis." is he taking the right approach in getting the international coalition developed to do just that? >> absolutely. finally we've got some movement. unekwif cli we have a goal, degrade and destroy isis. what we've been dealing with in the last ten days is over in terms of the equivocation we've heard. number two, we are moving towards a coalition. he has nine nato members and australia, ten partners to include the united states now in a coalition. they'll add to that hopefully a number of countries from the

middle east, certainly they have a stake in it, saudi arabia, jordan, hopefully kuwait, egypt, others will come and participate in that. i think the other thaing we're moving toward is a comprehensive stro strategy. i like the idea there's not just a military component to this. we are going to target their leaders, their finances and target their ideology. we must undermine this ideology to attract so many young people. >> as you know, that ideology is a component that has to be dealt with. you can take it all the way back to the schools these madrassas getting back into history, teaching young people to be against anything÷> absolutely. we've known that for some time. it's been going on in a number of countries in the misdemeandd,

most notably saudi arabia. the fact of the matter is a coalition needs leadership. we have a question mark there because we just don't know how strong the president's leadership is going to be here. to pull this coalition together and then to drive it towards tangible results and to have a sense of urgencurgency, that's leadership is all about when you're fighting a campaign like this. i do believe that there's going to be air strikes certainly in iraq. i suspect that they will not come initially in syria. i think that's a mistake. maximum pressure on the enemy is what a campaign plan is all about, and most of this afford infrastructure is in syria. that rocker is their command and control headquarters. they have training areas in that facility, staging bases. there's a lot of support infrastructure in syria. we shouldn't put it off. the longer we put it off, the longer the war protracts. >> syrian forces have launched their own air strikes against isis forces in their territory.

>> i do agree with that. the fact of the matter is, they've had a hands-off approach with isis for far too long. and they're finally getting after them. i think they're totally humiliated and frustrated by the foojt that isis took one of their key air bases. he thieve this attack in raqqa is all about that. >> one more thing, what do you say about what's happening here at home ? politically, the president may face rejection. some say he's too soft, others saying he's not doing enough. what is your statement as general to congress when the president goes before them on tuesday in. >> i think he's finally taking the right steps. is it too late? absolutely. did we have too much kwif occasion? certainly. but now we're moving in the right direction, give him credit for that. now it's all about aheleadershi. part of that is purr swaifding congress to follow him. >> good to have you, general.

>> thank you, kelly. fox news uncovers the smoking gun of benghazi. dramatic new details about the night that ambassador chris stevens was killed from men on the ground. >> small arms fire started coming from this direction. rope had a machine gun and stood in probably a three-quarter cross position and just started laying down hate. >> laying hate down through this avenue of approach from here. i started to engage with him. i ran out of ammo, knelt down, changed magazines and right as i'm coming up and i start to reengage, another mortar hits almost to the center of the building here. that one knocked me back. that's what hit roan. >> fox news reporting presents "13exw hours at benghazi: the inside story." you'll hear for the very first time what happened that night from the perspective of three men part of the cia annex

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welcome back. joan rivers had a heart condition that frightened her. in an interview with "good morning america" in 1985 rivers expressed concerns about her heart condition saying she was

especially careful when undergoing medical procedures. the 81-year-old comedy legend died thursday after suffering cardiac arrest following a routine throat procedure. the clinic is being investigated. rivers' funeral is set for tomorrow in new york city. america's manufacturing industry may be looking a little rickety. a report by morgan stanley finds the average age of industrial equipment in u.s. has risen above ten years. that is the highest since 1938. this could potentially impact our ability to compete with foreign rivals. what should u.s. companies do to modernize their equipment without breaking the bank. dominick, can manufacturers afford to be competitive by updating its equipment without sacrificing jobs? that's the problem. >> julie, we reported on this in the past. if you look at the cash that these corporations are holding today, they literally amount to trillions of dollars.

so they have cash sitting in the bank. they have easy access to credit. and the fed as we know has been very accommodating with regard to interest rates. if they wanted to put this money to work, they could, but in are a lot of other issues preventing them or holding them back from doing this. >> why are they holding back? why not be competitive? if you have the money. >> let's go 2008. we had the great recession, and we've had really below-trend growth these last six, seven years. the economy is growing about 2%, 2.5% if you average it out. we don't have real aggressive growth in this country. we've had a tax policy that has not been very attractive. in fact, we've seen this inversion where companies are really looking to move offshore, and confidence, if you look at the regulatoory environment coming out of washington and the rhetoric coming out of washington, companies when they make these kind of investments they're looking at 20, 30 year before you build a factory, before you pay for this equipment, you really want to

believe that you're going to use and need this equipment for the next 20, 30 years. a real lack of confidence in what's coming out of washington. >> here is a real big problem oush our tax code. how can manufacturers afford to compete with foreign rivals when we're paying such high taxes compared to the competition? >> julie, you're extractly right. look, at the end of the day, companies do want to manufacture here in the u.s. they warrant to create jobs here in the u.s. but if you're paying substantially more through the tax code, you're going to look elsewhere. now, look what happened just recently with tesla in nevada. tesla, through its partnership with nevada, created a very attractive tax environment. they're now going to build a huge factory in nevada. that is thousands of jobs. we have to look at that kind of idea on a national basis. washington has to look at partnering with corporations and creating a tax environment where they want to build factories, manufacturing here in the u.s.

and create jobs. >> otherwise, there's no incentive not to outsource to other countries like china or india. could we be hurting ourselves, american companies in the long term be hurting themselves, by outsourcing? >> look, the idea of outsoring for them is just a cost structure. ultimately if the kmeconomy wer to go back into a recession, somebody in china or india is being laid off, not an american. having said that, we have competitive advantages in this country. energy is a huge competitive advantage. the cost of energy in europe, southeast asia is substantially higher. companies can manufacture in this country and do it in a more cost-effective environment. con the economy is not going to go back into a recession and a regulatory and tax structure that makes it attractive for them to do that. >> dominick, thanks so much. >> julieh

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. health officials say it's a prime time to make sure your child is up-to-date on vaccines. here to cut through the misinformation is dr. manny alvarez, a member of the fox news medical a-team. doc, every time people go back to school, the@ >> johnny and suzy? >> look, i think that this year more than ever -- and i said this before to the producer -- you have to pay attention to vaccinations because, look, there are pockets of outbreaks on things like measles, mumps,

whooping cough all around the country. something that we typically have never seen before. hundreds of kids in communities getting infected. now, the fundamental reason for that is we have gone through a period of maybe a decade or so where a lot of misinformation talking about autism or allergies or auto immune diseases secondary to vaccination. look, at the end frt day this has been looked at very carefully. there's no association with immune owe logical shock to the children. children and adults die from common diseases we just talked about. also one of the biggest concerns i have is, look, it's not to politicize this, but the migration problem, immigration problem that we have in this country right now, where you have thousands of children now being placed in communities, we have no medical knowledge of any of the immunization record of these kids. >> that's a good point. >> as you see the data, some of them might be 10 or 15 years old, have a second grade education. so that is really not up to par. can you imagine their health

records are not there. >> yeah. >> so what happen sz they get placed because school starts, things happen quickly. it's important for parents to realize that immunization is key in making sure their children are safe. >> i think you're 100% right. i just don't understand why people would not have their child vaccinated, particularly because of all of the diseases you've discussed. >> again, another thing that people forget is immunizations don't last forever. oh, i got a shot of the measles and i'm done. the answer to that is not. if you know, there's a lot of the parents sending kids to college for the first time, they just kbrad waited high school, everybody is off to college, a lot of colleges want medical records, they want to make sure. a lot of pediatricians are checking for the immunity status of rubella and whooping cough and measles. you find that, hey, i'm not immune to any of these things. the reason for that is these immunizations wear off. so booster shots, you've got to

look at the medical records once in a while, become important. you know, again, for kid that's are going to any kind of boarding school, whether at the high school level, or college, meningitis vaccinations are very important, hepatitis vaccinations are very important. all of those things you've got to sort of be proactive. >> at what age do you start? >> well, you start giving shots around 6 months. >> of course. but as far as the whooping cough, for example? >> whooping give you a perfect example. every pregnant patient that gets delivered with a newborn -- >> i had that. >> -- we're offering the dtap vaccination including the whooping cough along with the flu shot because you realize that a lot of, especially for the newborns -- >> if you don't get it, you could pass it along. >> yes. you've got to get checked the last time your child got immu immunized and either get the booster shot or -- >> how long do the immunizations usually last? it isn't forever obviously.

but a year? >> no, no, no. depends on the immunization but some can wear off after a decade or so. >> which is why you get a booster shot. if you haven't had a tetanus shot, you need one every few years. >> the flu is every year. >> right. because the strain of the flu changes. >> manny alvarez, thank you so much for joining us. >> what were the names of the kids? >> johnny and suzy. >> for all the johns and susans, i apologize. >> all kids throughout america. that does it for us. i'll kelly write. >> i'm julie banderas. "journal editorial report" up next.

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