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>> that does it for us. theuzz >> on the buzz beater another journalist killed by terrorists as the media step up the war of words over isis. president obama join -- taking mounting criticism. >> president, the world has disappointed him and he is turning his back on the world and on the people who elected him, on all of us. >> the idea we have been winning the war against terrorism is ludicrous. >> as the pundits pound the president would ordered fresh airstrikes yesterday against isis? is there a media drumbeat for war? >> a dramatic reversal on immigration with the white house
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leak news that president obama is delaying a promise to issue an order before the election. is the press buying into the spin? >> political coverage in high gear as the fall election season is underway with republicans still favored to capture the senate. is the press playing up certain issues and playing up others? our new segment "midterm media madness." >> and a presidential interview on "meet the press," and outrage over the hackers would leaked the nude celebrity photos. what about the media organization that run images, endless images, of the stars? aren't they exploiting women? this is "media buzz."
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>> president obama getting hammered by the media and told reporters he wanted to destroy isis but he also used this language. >> we can continue to shrink isis sphere of influence, effectiveness, financing their military capabilities to the point where it is manageable problem. >> he is drawing plaque for words like "manageable." liberal "washington post" columnist accusing president obama of happy talk and soot saying people do not want the president be hawkish but they hate to see him weak. others are exasperated. >> if president obama does not formally declare war on muslim terrorists he is doing all men as great diagnosis service. >> terrorist threat is overwhelmingly overstated and we are spending too much time and
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money. >> republicans are shamelessly using isis and the killing of steven sotloff to slam the president of the united states, just another day at the office. >> how is this coverage shaping the war debate? >> we have lauren ashburn joining us. we have steve hayes senior writer for the "weekly standard," and juan williams columnist for "the hill." huge headline, media war frenzy like 2003. does it remind you of the run up to iraq? >> no. in 2003 we had the administration pushing a war, an agenda, weapons of mass destruction and the press saluting, saying, whatever you want, that is fine. now 2014, you have the press pushing to do something, whatever "something" is and you have the administration leading from behind saying, we don't have a strategy and the press is
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pouncing on that. >> that is interesting phrase, there seems to be this demand in much of the media, not all, the president "do something," although military action is risky. >> i'm not sure they are pushing him to do something but recognizing what he has done hasn't worked to this point. you have a president would understated dramatically the threat from a variety of jihadist going back to the going of his administration whether it was the christmas day bomber or calls --. >> does the press just want obama to admit error? >> they are pressing him because he has said the isis is a j.v. squad. you have to ask the question, how could he get that is wrong? was it bad intelligence in did he upestimate it in it is responsible coverage. i don't get the sense they are beating the drums for war. >> do you see many in the media
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pushing or advocating or wanting military action? >> i v to have my head in a hole not to see it. it is all over. >> are you saying i have my head in my hole? >> i would have to. i don't think there is any question, you played clips of o'reilly and others saying we have to declare a war right now. it is interesting, obviously, in the media narrative, yes, the more dramatic action taken the bigger our numbers and our ratings. that is dangerous. >> hold on, hold on, hold on. you are saying there is an institutional bias for war because that will get more people to when our television shows? >> that is part of it because what is happening, you look back in recent history, the syria situation the big red line, congress didn't approve, the american people didn't approve, the media favored. >> which media favored going to
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syria? >> my gosh... >> had was in drumbeat for war this syria from the media, and there were, if the media were predisposed to want war or the drama as suggested we would see that with respect to syria. >> we have seep it with syria and we seeing with regard to isis and i come back to a point howie touched on saying there is no good strategy. obama said this was not a strategy of dealing with isis in syria, that general, but that was used as evidence what this guy is not fivey, he took out osama bin laden and he took out the leader of libya. >> not a great moment in presidential press conference history. >> but the question of war was the first question. take a brief look. >> are you preparing the country to go back to war? >> i am preparing the country to make sure we deal with a threat
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from isis. >> what do you make of that exchange and the focus on, are we about to be a war? >> media like to know there is a clear line between what we are doing and what we are not doing. we want buckets. are we going to war? or not? james rosen was asking the state department spoke person the same, are you going to use the word "war," and no one is using that war. this is no clear story line. if it were a movie, we are in quite a muddle. our allies are iran and syria in people who have never been our allies. >> i mentioned that the president ordering a fresh round of airstrikes against isis in ir protect the major dam there, are we falling into the trap of judging him by linguistic debate? >> that is always a risk. perhaps that is the case in this
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situation given he is doing something. the president had been all talk and was not following up with actions if you see the number airstrikes, there were not many. lauren is right. >> imagine that. >> i didn't mean it that way, you are absolutely right. if you look at the way that the media like to cover stories like this that are inherently messy, we want to impose a narrative and say here is what is happening, we want you to understand, the reason we have so much trouble doing that with this budget in this context, the president doesn't know. he is muddled. the policy is muddle. the media coverage is muddled. >> the president used tougher language on friday at nato about degrading and destroying isis and then he was criticized for going to stonehenge. do you have the question that he cannot catch a break? >> at the moment he certainly can.
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at the moment everyone, left and right, you will notice some on the left have become highly critical in terms of the mid-leaderships because the poll numbers. the conventional position right new on obama is, he is not with it, he zone get it. i must say when i look at someone who is praised, which is british prime minister cameron and merkel in germany, their let vick more shrill, do they have a strategy? are they doing anything more? no. >> i was struck, should you have gone golfing the day of the murder of jim foley? he admitted that the optics were bad and he is not good at theater of politics. that is the first time we have heard him say that. boy, is it true. >> that leads to the next question, the second murder the me heading of another american journalist, steven sotloff who
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wrote for "time," magazine. al-jazeera is refusing to show. >> they showed osama bin laden talking to americans. >> i talked about this after james foley's killing, should the other networks stop running it? >> i talked about it, there was an outcry particularly on twitter over isis media blackout talked about and the reasoning behind that as people were saying, along with other journalists, we do not want to give them the satisfaction of showing these brutal killings. there is the flip side which is the glenn greenwalds of the world, people should be able to see the images. last point, i do not want to be sitting at home with my six-year-old on the news having to see this used as wallpaper over and over and over again.
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>> i don't want to sanitize it but wednesday it is covered initially it issue not be covered over and over. now, developments on benghazi, five former commandos say the c.i.a. officer in charge ordered them to delay a rescue attempt and this was recorded by fox, and a look at bret baier interviewing some of the authors five minutes. ready to go. ready to go. i said, we are ready to go and bob looks at team and said you guys need to work. "bob," was the base chief in benghazi. >> fox and "new york times" and "washington post" and others have not carried a word. is this twist in the story underplayed? >> considerably. i argue "new york times" story was just a check of the box.
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they wrote a short story and did not cover much and said this is not much new. i am reading the book, there is a the had. it changes the timeline considerably. no matter your politics or what you think of benghazi and how the president handled it, it is a compelling story if you read the book or watch the special that bret baier did, this is the more gripping hours of television production i have ever seen because the story is so strong. it deserved as much coverage? >> hard to judge, fewer new judgment, i thought fox did a good job, bret baier did a good job but the point for me initially the charge was that the president our our military had somehow been negligent and not protected the lives of our diplomatic personnel and nothing suggests that. >> maybe bad judgments were made but we don't know about the story. send me a tweet this hour, we
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always read some at the end of the program. a new segment of on fall elections and how the white house got the press to delay an executive order on immigration culminating in a presidential interview on "meet the press." musical chairs. fun, right? welllllllll, not when your travel rewards card makes it so hard to get a seat using your miles. that's their game. the flights you want are blacked out. or they ask for some ridiculous number of miles.
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>> president obama appeared on "meet the press," to explain why he dropped the vow to act on immigration policy. >> what do you tell the person that will be deported before the election that this decision was essentially made in your hopes of saving a democratic senate? >> that is not the reason. what i have determined is i want
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do make sure we get it right. i want to make sure that all the t's are crossed. >> when i take executive action i want it to be sustainable. >> the public is not behind you -- you are concerned the public would not support what you did? >> before the president appeared on nbc yesterday afternoon unnamed white house official put out a statement to the press leaking it without his name attached, or her name, saying it was done because of the republican's extreme polarization. what do you think of how the press dealt with the reversal? the white house is trying to convince people the president had no other option, that he could not do this, and it is not just politics but because the republican was part of the standard play. the way it is covered is skeptical. the press has say you have democrats in tough races and this is not helpful to him and
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you are changing because of politics and you saw it reflected. >> if the white house said the president wanted more time to study the issue, we would say, come on, it is about protecting vulnerable democrats so they conceded, the white house officials, conceded it is about politics to some degree but i feel the coverage did not make that much of the fact it was a flip-flop on the part of the president. >> boy, the cox of the morning papers made that point because immigration reformed a secretaries have been highly critical of the president and saying, again, he is disappointed not only at the hispanic community but liberal democrats who think there is a need for immigration reform and republicans have been obstructionist and used this to fire up the base because they are so strongly anti-immigrant. as a result, the president should not back down and there is not good time that the president previously said this
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is never a good time to do this and he should act now. >> but the express good at quoting opponents and no one liked this decision because the advocates wanted action. i thought it wasn't a oh ride my lips." there were a last lies coming from the white house. >> white house was talking to immigration advocates saying we will delay the decision and saying it because of red state domes in danger not, we need to build a case for the american people or because of the crisis with the kids. >> lauren? this is the first big interview for "meet the press," how did he do? >> what we saw were tough questions. obviously he knows his stuff, he has been around licks for a very long time and he was able to jump in and spar with the president.
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>> it is a conversational style, a switch from the last moderator of "meet the press." he is teasing things out of the president in a way that disarms him and it is a very similar style of diane sawyer. >> even he asked, the president, you look optics and he asked about golf, and he saturday part of what i love is the vacation. from the press. >> i have known chuck todd for years and we worked together for two years and i consider him a friend. a reason it was a good interview is what lauren said, the conversational style, he is at ease, and he pressed the president on the big issue which is this fight with isis and that made news and made the president actually is to talk about it in a way he did not before. >> it is a win-win for chuck and
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for the president would gets to come on to the show and try to tell us what his theory is behind all of his isis machinations. >> but based on twitter, it is sort of an omission by president obama maybe i should not have played golf that day. >> ahead, the leak of the nude celebrity photos raised the question, don't mainstream outlets raise this all the time? can "the view," us bounce back with two new panelists including a conservative. ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ here's a good one seattle... what did geico say to the mariner? we could save you a boatload! ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ what's seattle's favorite noise? the puget sound! ♪ foghorn sounds loudly ♪ all right, never mind doesn't matter. this is a classic. what does an alien seamstress sew with?
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gregory after six years of struggle at "meese the press," and debuted today. >> what does he need to say to rally the public? >> we are an exhausted nation and the president is taking a fairly reasoned and measured response. >> do you think he is too poll driven? >> i don't think he has been poll driven enough. >> joining us from new york is columnist, so, chuck todd ran a round table can tried to put his stamp on the show. how did he go? >> pretty good. i will disagree with your own panelists, lauren and steve, particularly, conversationally he was with the president but he did not challenge him enough in certain situations particularly this point: when talking about going golfing 15 minutes after announcing on the beheading of jim foely he said "theater of
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the presidency doesn't come me." that is where chuck shook his head and allowed president to go on another unfiltered minute. this is the same president roundly mocked and criticized positive taking a selfie at the nelson man dole that funeral. if he did not learn about optics, i would answer the question there. the strong suit of tim russert was the gotcha moment. he needs to improve. >> do you see this show going in the direction of of an ensemble. joe is considered a rhino conservatives and not trusted by them and not trusted by liberals because he is republican.
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he are adding luke russert, as well, and i would say unfortunately luke is there because of nepotism --. >> he wasn't there today. >> he will be a permanent part of the show. that will an problem. and another point if you don't mind, chuck is great for those who are political junkies inside the beltway. if your growl is to go from third place to first place as they were under russert you have to appeal to the main stream, the casual political viewer and i don't know if chuck todd is the guy to do that. >> he is not a polished tv guy but people like not necessarily seeing a blow dried anchor. >> like me. >> okay. >> let me switch to "the view," adding two new panelists, one is rose peres and the other is nicole wallace putting a
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conservative back. what is your view of "the view." you have the two rosies and whoop whoop. this is trick for 1994, three women in their 50's and nicole wallace, i would have liked to have two of the panelists to be younger, to be hipper. the problem was appealing to a young female ought why ensure and they have gone this route i would go with someone else, someone younger. maybe ann coulter rather than nicole wallace because she can deliver a punch. nicolle...it will struggle in the ratings, i hate to say it. >> i am hoping it will get back to talking about hot political
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politics which they have gotten away from and nicolle tangling with rosie and whoopi could be interesting. >> and our new segment coming up on the midterm and bill o'reilly and the state department,ow did it get so personal? [ hoof beats ] i wish... please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we wish above all...is health. so we quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. expanded minuteclinic, for walk-in medical care. and created programs that encourage people to take their medications regularly. introducing cvs health. a new purpose. a new promise... to help all those wishes come true. cvs health. because health is everything.
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>> new airplane strikes in iraq stop isis from taking a strategic dam, which if they took over could flood the area. president obama will lay out the new strategy to defeat the
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terrorists in a speech to the nation on wednesday. no details but we will cover it live. >> saying final goodbye to joan rivers, the funeral for the comedy legend taking place at a temple on the upper east half. celebrities starkses turning out to pay respects. she wrote that she hoped for "a huge show business affair with lights and cameras and action," she died on thursday at 81. more on the protecting news at 7:00 p.m. eastern. w back to "me" >> we're kicking off our you new midterm mediaset. ch >> each will be focus on the election and the media reporting on it. john mccain was among the republicans slamming the president over isis. >> america deserve as raise. folks are doing very well on
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wall street. they are doing very well in the corporate boardroom. give america a raise. >> i was astounded that president of the united states said the world is always messy and it has been added to by social media? that means the president of the united states is either in denial or overwhelmed. >> how does the coverage affect the fall elections in we have editor and chief "the hill," and national editor of political report. amy, obama talking about boosting the minimum rage, did the coverage laugh more than half a news cycle? >> i think it lasted for 14 seconds. this is, really, the trouble for democrats. they want to make this election like 2012 election, a contrast
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between the democrats like the president though were saying on the minimum wage and the income inequality and a republican message they say is really focused on the 1 percent. they have not been able to do that because a last things are getting in the way. >> i thought the polls showed the top issue that americans carry about is the economy and that is not reflected in the coverage. >> that is why president obama needs to go to the issues and will talk about a lot in the fall. will it resonate? that is the question. >> we hear about isis, and the president's handling and whether we are at war and beheading of a second american journalist. does the coverage resonate in a midterm election? >> shear where it is resonating and why you see the approval ratings go south. is this relentless focus on how bad it look overseas? it is reflected, then, in the president's own approval rating?
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he is not taking leadership. why is he? what is he doing in what is the strategy? when bad news happens and it is piled on to this president in august, it has the effect of bringing his own approval ratings down which trickles to every competitive congressional race. >> i would say this coverage of isis and syria dominated more than any other story this side of the death of joan rivers. >> terror politics is back. we have not seen that in a while. the president had a tough august making some gaffes. that hurts the democrats. he needs to have a boater fall if democrats are going to hold on to the senate. no doubt. >> the news that broke is the immigration delay and i am wandering, does that now take that off the table in terms of media coverage in september or october?
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will we hear a lot from job lists about how ticked off both sighs are? the republicans will say he will still do it and the advocates of immigration reform feel let down? >> since the crisis moved up the last few weekend on the consciousness of americans you saw five senate races with ads by republicans on the border prices and is becoming part of the campaign messaging. you saw issues of the legal immigrants getting access to health care. things like that. it will be an issue thattens there use. twit not be to bob's point an issue that childrens up the up - that "chin's up," the republican base. it will be a reason to give republicans more reason to be engaged. >> how much can the press cover?
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congress is coming back so we will talk to the lawmakers who wanted action. the media loves stories of democrat criticizing democrat or republican criticizing republican and that is what we will see. >> intra party warfare? >> were more interesting. >> the red straight democrats did not want this happen and that is why it distant happen. >> ferguson violence is over but this week we had attorney general holder announcing a civil right investigation of the police department in that town on a broader scale than looking at death of michael brown. does this pump up democratic voters? >> i don't think so. this is an issue the investigation issue, it will take a long time for an answer. it is not something we will see just pop up. the urgency is gone. in talking to folks, too, about the issue, especially those who are african-american, the
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frustration for many that the president did not make stronger statements and that would have pumped up if you are talking about encouraging the voters. >> urgency gone from the media without the cameras looking at people looting stores and engaging in other disobedience. >> i agree until we get answers, hold senior activity on this issue and wanted the president to go to ferguson. >> what we will do is ask each of you what won the week in terms of media coverage, republicans or the democrats, in terms of the program thence of the story. amy? >> republicans and the entire week was about isis and it was not about what democrats want to talk about. the president and the vice president on labor day started with a message about the economy. they hoped that would be the discussion for the week. instead, it was about terrorism and whether the president had the plan to fight it. that does not help democrats.
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>> would won? >> i think the democrats because there have been stories about race in kansas and when republicans have to worry about a kansas senate race that is good and democrats could criticize the president on isis and that hurts but for the week i go with the democrats. >> our first disagreement on the new segment. the democratic candidate in kansas tried drop out to help an justice department candidate who hope to defeat incumbent senator pat roberts but the secretary of state said you cannot take the name off the ballot and it is confusing. thanks very much for stopping by. >> the huffington post hires a controversial football player and bill o'reilly's war of words with the state department press folks. well, it wasn't so bad after all. ♪
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looks way out of her depth. the way she delivers, it doesn't look like she has the gravitas to this job. >> that prompted this stinging resort from marie hart. >> i think that when the anchor of a leading cable news show uses, quite frankly, sexist, personally offensive language, that i actually don't think they would ever use about a man against a person that shares this podium with me, i think i have an obligation and i think it's important to step up and say that's not okay. >> my take is that o'reiley started this fight, ann marie harp is entitled to aggressively defend her boss. but there wasn't a scintilla of sexism in anything o'reiley said. what does his criticism have to do with jen socky being a woman? here is the proof. >> he looks to me to be befuddled. jay carney, you may not have liked him, but he looked like he
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understood the process. mr. earnest doesn't look like he doesn't have a lot of -- he has a lot of credibility. >> o'reiley going after if white house spokesman. the economists an outrageous review of edward baptist about slave slavery. it said mr. baptist has not written an objective outlook by slavery, almost all of the blacks are victims and almost all the whites villains. this is not history, it's advocacy. >> wait a second, almost all the blacks who were bought and sold as human victims. wow. the economist as now called slavery an evil system, withdrawing the review and apologizing. dawn tunte stallworth has jd a new team.
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espn's keith obermann calls foul from the sidelines. >> so your supposed news website just hired to cover national security a still thee writticly active nfl player with no journalist experience who is a 9/11 truther, but lying about when he reformed. >> stallworth told "the washington post" he no longer believes in those 9/11 tweets. what a relief. ahead on "media buzz" the uproar of those hack eed nude photos. but isn't
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time for our digital download t. media world was filled with outrage and snar kiness after the hack of nude photos from a number of female celebrities. >> the fallout tonight continues after a hacking attack involving some very personal intimate photographs of celebrities including oscar winner jennifer lawrence, posted online for all the world to see. >> this morning, several "a list" stars are the target of what appears to be one of the biggest celebrity hacking leaks. >> this is great for them. well, not great for them. >> why? >> maybe for their careers. >> but what about all the media outlets that routinely post pictures of women who suffer wardrobe malfunctions or are in farious states of undress? aren't they part of the problem, howie? >> yes, they don't get called on it or by very few people. the hauf fing ton post has an entire section devoted to side boob.
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daily mail does this all the time. >> it's objectifying women, from a female point of view. the "huffington post" is one of the biggest offenders. it's run by a woman. i think what that says is that advertising revenue and clicks are often more important than how women are treated. that's because digital revenue is half of what print revenue was, and you have to get a lot more clicks in order to make money. >> maybe we're all desensitized by the porn culture and the fact that so many actresses take off their clothes in movies. we have to make a distinction, when a paris hilton sex tape happens to hit the web, everyone suspicious they wanted it up there. >> that's often b list celebrities. >> or c list. >> it is the big joke. let's get something going about our career because our movies --
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not being picked up for movies. but what happens is that people think that that goes across the board for everybody, and that's not true. i mean these actresses don't need that kind of publicity, nor do they want it. >> what was troubling with me with jennifer laerns and the others, you a lot of men online who either repost the pictures or make ugly comments, as if they're not allowed to take pictures from the privacy of their own home. >> the people and the hackers and the people who post and post and post again all of these pictures are part of the problem. but i have to say i was really surprised at the furor that came roaring through the media on this. i didn't think it would be an issue that would catch fire. >> in my view, the media, to talk about sex and nudity with this story. >> without anybody saying it's technology. >> by dressing it up about being
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about privacy and technology. still to come, you won't believe the british headline about the new head at the bbc. a cnn reporter making off with the merchandise? h we come into the world hungry. and never quite get over it. seven billion hungry people. well, we grow a lot of food. we also waste about a third of what we grow. so, we put our scientists to work. and they found ways to keep the food we grow fresher, longer. using innovative packaging. there are still a lot of hungry people in the world. but we have a lot of scientists. this is the human element at work. dow.
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here are a few of your top tweets. are the media beating the war drums or spotlighting the president's inaction. cg, more drum beat than spotlights. one from our facebook page, forest johnson, the main ones who are banging the drum beat forward is fox news. back to twitter, pamela jones, it's a drum beat forward from the same dummies in the main street media who led the drum beat for the iraq war. rob dobbs, news is all about ratings and not actual journalism. war gets ratings.
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>> that's exactly what juan williams said at the top of the show. it is about ratings, that's why people want controversy. >> wow, okay. we'll see if we get those ratings. sometimes you wonder what century it is. when rona fairhead, a former ceo was named to take over the governing body of britain's network. it said mother of three. "the washington post" a bit different, katherine weymouth is leaving as ceo and publisher, the last link to the graham family. post says the new ceo, a former politico executive and one-time reagan official has three daughters. that information tucked into the 29th paragraph. major lay-offs are unfortunately becoming rather routine. here is what cnn's lisa dejar
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dan got. >> i'd like to say thank you cnn, thank you to one of the best bureaus in the world and one of the best beat teams in the world. do we want to take pencils? pencils, got them. of course, i'm sorry cnn has decided to eliminate my reporter position on the hill and cut back on congressional coverage. i hand in my badge with few regrets. but one is that there are far too few red heads on cnn. to that i'm sore. >> reporter: to my fell he gingers, i have failed you. >> i can't help you out on that either. that was the best video ever for departing. it does actually go to the sad state of affairs in media. a lot of my friends at "usa today" took buyouts or were called and said your position is no longer needed. i goes to the status of the industry. >> it's become so routine and it's depressing. lisa gave us all a laugh. yes, we need more redheads.
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that's it for this edition of "media buzz." i'm howard kurtz. check out our facebook page, you can read my daily i'm chris wallace. former governor mitt romney is pulling no punches blaming president obama for the growing number of hot spots around the world. >> the president has a foreign policy which has failed once again. we find ourselves facing a very severe and horrific series of scenes on the world stage. >> was romney right in the 2012 presidential debates about russia and other threats to the u.s. and will he run again in 2016. mitt romney only on "fox news sunday." then, a second american is executed by isis. and new charges about benghazi and why help came too late.