we have an agreement. miss megyn warming up in the bull pen. we are definitely looking out for you. breaking tonight, new details on what the president is considering as he reportedly prepares to finally lay out something when it comes to dealing with the world's most dangerous terror group. welcome to the kelly file, everyone, i'm megyn kelly. today marks 12 months to the day since the president's last prime time address. then he was focused on syria, now it's a much bigger problem. the world's first islamic terrorist state in the heart of the middle east. tonight the threat is hitting home with the poll just out showing 9 in 10 americans now see isis as a serious threat to u.s. interests. and more than half believe mr. obama has failed as a president.

with his poll numbers plummeting and his party facing a potential gop sweep in the midterms, whatever the president says tomorrow night at this time could have a serious impact on our nation's security and on our political landscape for years to come. chief white house correspondent ed henry is live in washington tonight. ed? >> reporter: good evening, new details on why the president flipped from originally wanting to have an afternoon speech tomorrow to the bright lights and the bigger pressure of a primetime address to the nation. i'm told there are two reasons. officials say that over the weekend they had better than expected reaction to that "meet the press" interview, the idea that the president had finally formulated a strategy and could articulate it. that obviously the flip side is he had not been able to do that until sunday. secondly, i'm told, the white house was deeply surprised that the iraqi government actually was able to form. they didn't think that was going to happen. and they latched on to that. there's a lot of skepticism it might not last, but they're latching on to that now. you put those two things together, the president and his

aides said we need to seize this and go with the primetime address. that's the style. the second is on the substance. senior officials tell me that the president had only one big ask of congressional leaders in this private meeting late today which is that he wants them to give him a law that authorizes more help to the syrian rebels, the opposition, why is that? it tips to us the idea that the president is likely tomorrow night to talk about u.s. air strikes in syria. he wants the syrian o pgs to be the ground foergss instead of u.s. ground troops just as there were iraqi forces being the ground troops to u.s. air strikes in iraq. that tips to us that idea. but interesting because this is a flip for the president. he told thomas friedman of "the new york times" that it was a fantasy for hillary clinton andand others to say you could arm them. now he needs those rebels to be the ground forces if he's going to unleash u.s. air strikes in syria. and obviously there's another flip-flop that in the "meet the press" interview, the president

said he's not one for political theater. tomorrow night going in prime time that's the ultimate political theater. >> we'll welcome him on the kelly files and see what he has to say. raising the stakes for tomorrow night's speech the that new poll. just 43% of americans now rate president obama as a strong leader. the lowest since he entered the white house. another question shows that 52% say they now see him as a, quote, failed president compared with 42 who see any kind of success. our senior political analyst, the numbers show that he's failed as president, they do not believe he's a strong leader. there's another piece of the poll that show that just 38% believe he's uniting the country, in the wake of what ed henry reported i ask you whether tomorrow night's address is going be about politics or policy. >> well, these addresses are always about both, megyn.

obviously no president can do something like this and make a move, which amounts to a big about-face as he's about to do without one eye on the political consequences. a president who is about to undertake something that he considers major needs political support. and there's nothing wrong with that. and i think when you look at the public's mood as reflected in the polling on isis, there's a tail wind behind him on that. people are worried about isis and they would like to see something done about it. the president's problem, of course, is that when he comes out and announces a major military initiative to try to conquer isis, that this represents an acknowledgment, although it will be tacit, that everything he had previously said about iraq and terror an the war on terror was wrong and everything he did about iraq and the war on terror was wrong in the sense that he pulled the troops out, and you played that amazing excerpt from president

bush's address when he was announcing the surge remember on your program last week, and he listed this catalog of the parade of horribles that he said would happen if we pulled out of iraq too soon. well, the president came in and pulled out of iraq about as fast as he could, and all of those things have now come to pass. representing a complete misjudgment on the part of the president who is now confronted in iraq and syria as well with a terrorist force which in many ways is more formidable than al qaeda ever was. this is a big moment for him. the public i think is ready to stand with him when he comes out and whatever he says. i hope that what he won't do is what he's been so accustomed to doing which is detailing all the things that he won't do, which unnecessarily tells the enemy too much about your plans and also diminishes the sense of commitment you may be wanting to

communicate. those are thele cha e lchalleng >> there was where he pressed the u.s. spokesman on what the heck we're going to get tomorrow night. >> if i listened to you correctly today, the president will tell the country that there will be no ground troop involved, no timeline for victory, no costs associated with the pursuit of victory. why should anyone watch? >> they should watch because the president of the united states and the commander in chief will be communicating directly with the american people about a core national security priority. he'll talk about the risks that the united states faces, and he'll talk about the strategy he's put together to confront those risks, to mitigate them and ultimately to degrade and destroy the isil. >> the audience want to know how we're going to win. mr. president tell us how we're going to win. i don't know based on what you said the president will tell

them that tomorrow? >> i don't have the speech in front of me. tune in wednesday night. >> tune in wednesday night and we'll find out. >> that's a perfectly reasonable answer. >> i wanted the viewers to hear that. 9:00 eastern here on fox news. >> i don't want the president to lay out details of a military plan thereby telling the world and the enemy what you're going to do exactly. what the president has to do is avoid that but at the same time communicate a commitment to the goal of victory which he himself has already define pd as a degrading and ultimately the defeat of isis. so he's got to say enough about his commitment to this that it's credible and people feel like they're following the leader who is actually going to lead without conceding away the details of how he goes about doing it. he has also got a problem in the sense that he's got a challenge to rally these forces, some of which he's demeaned as you and ed pointed out in the past as

unworthy of support to be the ground troops. >> our partners. >> fighting in syria. they were dentists and whatever. now they're going to be the shark troops. he's got to work someway around that as well. and, of course, to a lot of leaders being asked by this president to join a coalition in which the u.s. may be seen as doing less than it could and with none of its ground troops is a little bit like, let's you and him fight. so that's an issue he has to face. >> thank you, sir. >> you bet. >> don't forget to tune in tomorrow night. a special kelly file. the president set to speak at 9:00 p.m. eastern. we'll be here live to bring you his remarks. britt will be back. set your dvr for that. we have breaking news on the latest american to become a potential recruit for this terrorist army known as isis. wait until you hear about this guy. new remarks from nfl commissioner roger goodell about

how the national football league handled ray rice and his assault on his wife. wait until you hear what they're now saying. just ahead, part two of my conversation with ward churchill. as i challenge his views of the terrorist threat to america then and now. you describe the al qaeda terrorists as brave. do you believe that isis terrorists are brave? ♪ [ male announcer ] momentum has a way of quietly exploding onto the scene. ♪ the new ram 1500 ecodiesel. with 28 highway miles per gallon, 420 pound-feet of torque. ♪ guts. glory. ram.

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breaking tonight pressure mounting on roger goodell as he defends the way the league has handled the suspension of baltimore ravens running back ray rice. goodell was asked tonight why the nfl only took tougher action in the wake of this tape when we've known for months that rice punched his bride in the face. did you really need to see a videotape of ray rice punching her in the face to make this decision? >> no,y with certainly didn't. and i would tell you that what we saw in the first videotape was troubling to us in and of itself, but what we saw yesterday was extremely clear, it was extremely graphic and it was sickening. that's why we took the action we took yesterday. >> he's a member of "the wall street journal" editorial board and fox news contributor. i still don't get it. what is the difference? because what happened was he gave him a two-game suspension after they saw the initial tape of her being dragged out of an elevator. there was an outrage, an uproar.

he came out and said, i screwed that up, i did wrong. it wasn't harsh enough. he changed the policy to a mandatory suspension on your first offense, second offense you're out. then this videotape surfaces and this guy doesn't get just the six-month suspension he gets suspended indefinitely. what's happening with the nfl right now? >> this is damage control. there's no other explanation for it. i find it hard to believe this is the first time they're seeing this video. the nfl has a vast, wide ranging security apparatus. they deal with the homeland department of security, the dea. >> he said they wanted to get it from the police which was the most reliable source. the police said no, which is apparently true. >> if tmz could have gotten it then the nfl could have gotten this. he didn't see this video or he didn't want to see this video. there are reporters who both say the nfl has had this tape for

months. >> he denies it. he specifically denies that either he or anyone else at the nfl to his knowledge has seen it. this is my question to you. this is not the first example of domestic violence in the nfl. greg hardy of the carolina panthers who was convicted of beating his girlfriend. when you're charged, i understand, but you're convicted. hee filed an appeal and he's being allowed to -- it's just an appeal. are they willfully looking the other way, and if so, why? >> he's not the only one under suspicion for domestic violence who lay played on sunday. there's another player from san francisco. >> ray mcdonald. >> who believe took into custody after they found bruises on the neck and shoulder of his pregnant girlfriend, megyn. so if there's a new policy in the nfl, these guys didn't get the memo. >> i look at what roger goodell said when he make a mea culpa.

he wants workplaces filled with people of character. he wants the nfl to be held to a higher standard. if that's what he wants, did he have any choice to come out here and suspend him indefinitely even over the objections of his wife who was the victim? >> i feel for the wife. i think she needs to sit down with oprah and finally -- i mean, if he hit her once, he'll hit her again. that would be my advice to the wife. i feel very sorry for her being in this situation. but baltimore was trying to protect their investment in this player, 25 million over over two years. but goodell's job was to protect the brand. any decent thinking video would have said we don't want the nfl to have anything to do with this man any more. that's where he should have cut the cord. >> you believe dollars and cents? >> or just a lack of realization of how serious this problem is and a refusal to crack down on the bad behavior.

two players under investigation right now played on sunday. how serious is this so long as that is going on? >> the wife is not happy about any of this. she's still standing by ray rice and said the media has now ruined their lives. right after the break, we'll have breaking news on reports of yet another american possibly signing on to join the terrorist army known as isis. and this are some troubling developments with the mystery virus sending hundreds of children to the hospital across this country. plus, ward churchill influenced thousands of students as a professor who taught at a top american university for decades. and he hates this country. tonight after he ducks tough questions for years, i will challenge churchill with this. why do you live here? you hate america so much, why have you chosen to stay here? in. as a police officer, i've helped many people in the last 23 years. but i needed help in quitting smoking.

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breaking tonight new details on another american who may be the latest recruit for the terror army known as isis. since last week we've been reporting on young men and a woman in the twin cities being recruited and going overseas to wage jihad. bob fletcher is the former sheriff of ramsey county in the minneapolis/st. paul area. he's the director of the center for somalia history studies and he counsels so maly families with missing children. thank you for being here tonight. what do we know about this latest young man? >> ulf, we learned today that another young somali male had gone to turkey, telephoned his family and said he was headed to syria. and, of course, it's disappoi disappointing to have one more go. >> how did he, how did the others like him and more importantly where are they becoming radicalized?

>> well, this one we're just starting to investigate. he doesn't appear to have attended the same mosque that the others did. but we do know from some of the other kids that they transferred from one mosque to another, to al farouk within months of the time they went. the radicalization phase is only taking three months to six months before they decide to take some direct action. >> do they go from normal american kids, some play basketball, they have girlfriends or regular-seeming lives, to getting on a plane bound for isis and syria within three to six months? >> well, we do have a spectrum of people. we have the hardline religious ideologues, but we also have kids that are just falling between the cracks. they're not really achieving the american dream. they're looking and searching for something. so we have a whole spectrum. >> how bad or how significantly should we be looking at al farouk mosque? >> well, certainly some

recruitment's taking place at al farouk. not likely the head leadership, but there are of youth workers and youth leaders. and clearly amir mashal was one of those people. but he also took kids off site. >> that's the guy that we interviewed -- the fbi interviewed over 30 times, arrested in kenya, brought back to the united states and now he's missing and we don't know where he is, but he's suspected of some recruitment or possibly even being a double agent working for us. go ahead. >> sure, no question, he was probably an al qaeda member and joined al shabaab and the islamic courts and was driven out of somalia in 2006 or '07. our antenna should be up on him. >> i know you issued a warning talking about how car bombs could be coming. why do you say that? >> al qaeda issued a new magazine here just two weeks ago talking about how to construct car bombs and how they want to return to the times square

scenario. they're very disappointed that wasn't successful. they're encouraging all of our lone wolf terrorists if you will, here in america, to build car bombs. step by step instructions. so we issued an intelligence brief, but that isn't the only reason. right now al qaeda, isis and al shabaab are in competition for who' going to stage the biggest event. al shabaab was responsible for the westgate mall attack last september. al qaeda's been on the back foot. and isis really wants to establish itself as a leader. they're all competing for the limelight right now. >> important to keep this in mind as we head into 9/11 this year. we also have new developments tonight with that mystery virus that's been sending hundreds of kids to the hospital. that's just ahead. and up next, how does a man who hates america come to hold a top position at a well-respected university for decades?

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for years some of america's most respected and prestigious schools have employed radical professors. some of whom have even attacked america. from domestic terrorist bill ayers to his wife bernadine dorn who was once on the fbi's most wanted list and fellow members of their weather underground like kathy wilkerson and kathy bodine. she spent 20 years in prison for

killing a cops. these are some of the people molding minds of students across the country. people like this are rarely challenged in public until tonight as i bring you night two of my exclusive interview with former professor ward churchill. as the u.s. weighs what to do about isis, a growing terror army in the middle east, many fear if we hit this group hard, it will only endanger america and her citizens. within this collection there's a far left subset that blames these conflicts on american foreign policy and what they view as an arrogant u.s. whose military is so immoral the terrorists can never even the score. chief among this crowd -- ward churchill who for decades was on the inside of america's educational system, a respected, tenured professor at the university of colorado. on the day of the 9/11 attacks he penned an essay praising the

terrorists as gallant and courageous and compared the dead americans to a nazi war criminal. >> i call this specific cast of characters in the world trade center little eichmanns. and i defined them as being the core of the empire. >> for years his essay was not noticed or not a problem among his academic circles. two years later he doubled down turning his musings into a book. then came 2005 and an invitation to speak at a college in upstate new york, the home state of 9/11's ground zero. and professor churchill's essay suddenly took center stage. >> i mean, this guy -- this is just cruel to say these people deserved it, they were little nazis. >> the national media caught wind of churchill's writings and within two years churchill's career was effectively over. he was allegedly fired for

academic misconduct. the university claimed it had discovered fraud in churchill's research, but churchill argued he was fired for his comments, a violation of his free speech rights. a jury sided with churchill but the verdict was overturned. and now as america marks 13 years since the 9/11 attacks, churchill has resurfaced calling america the evil empire and arguing in the war on terror the u.s. has ceded the moral high ground. before we show you part two of our interview, some highlights from part one. how could you draw a moral equivalence between 3,000 dead americans and a murderous nazi like adolf eichmann? >> well, first off, i did not make a reference to 3,000 americans in that connection. i made a reference to what i described as a technocratic core of empire which is a particular group within that 3,000. >> the folks in the twin towers? >> twin towers. there was also a body count at the pentagon that day. >> let's talk about the little

eichmanns reference because that's one of the pieces that you wrote that got people so upset. adolf eichmann, you described him as a technocrat within the nazi army. >> bureaucrat would work, too. >> paper pusher. >> essentially that's correct. >> he actually escaped after the war and took refuge in argentina under a difficult name because he was eventually captured by the mossad and put to death. the only man to be put to death by execution. "i called my men into my berlin office and formally took leave of them. if it has to be i told them i will gladly jump into my grave in the knowledge that 5 million enemies of the reich have already died like animals." doesn't sound like a pencil pusher. you called them courageous, even gallant, gallant?

>> mm-hmm. >> al qaeda, the guys that flew those jets into the twin trade centers. >> yeah, now if you ask me do i actually believe that or am i still making the point? this is what it feels like when people who are sitting at computer consoles 1500 miles away firing cruise missiles into your cities are called heroes. >> you understand that al qaeda routinely kills civilians, this group isis routinely kills civilians. >> are you asking me if i'm a supporter of al qaeda? >> you certainly sound like you like them. they're gallant. >> yeah. >> then you yourself poured salt in the wounds of the victims of 9/11 and their families. so how can you claim the moral high ground when it comes to causing pain, causing destruction when you at the most vulnerable moment did the very same thing to them? >> which is exactly the point again. this is done day in, day out. >> you're pointing at somebody

else. will you apologize to anyone? >> no. >> and tonight former university of colorado professor ward churchill answers that question in part two of our interview. will you apologize to anyone? >> no, i will not apologize. when i hear an apology for the half million odd iraqi children, then i'll take it under consideration. as to the american children who were killed, i mourn them. i mourn them proportionately just as much as i mourn any one of those iraqi children. >> proportionately, that's interesting. you spent your life working for the government you hate. a little hypocritical? >> i used it for the exact purpose that you're hearing now, which is try to explain things. that was the job. >> how about isis? are they evil? >> sure, they are. they're not christian so i can't really speak for islam in terms of the concept of evil, but -- >> you describe the al qaeda terrorists as brave. do you believe that isis

terrorists are brave? >> let me try this one more time and see if you get it this time. i was writing in directly the voice of a pentagon briefer running the record in reverse. so, i don't know exactly how you want me to take responsibility. >> do you believe it's courageous? i'm asking the question, do you believe isis is brave and courageous and restrained? >> as brave and courageous and restrained as any of the american forces that are described as brave, courageous -- >> can you answer? >> exactly the same. i don't find either of them especially redeeming. you don't find me joining a particular formation of fundamentalist formation. i'm not especially enthralled with fundamental of any sort. >> we have no moral high ground when it comes to america versus isis? >> i've seen american moral high ground at work in southeast asia, thank you very much, and the answer to that would be an

absolute no. >> okay. we don't. >> we don't. >> we should just let them commit he's atrocities without impunity. creating crucifixions. >> i heard one suggestion on what we could do to alleviate the situation would be stop killing their babies. >> so it's back on us. >> sure. take some responsibility as you put it. >> how should we take that? let them come here to the homeland? do we get to defend ourselves if they bomb us. >> whose homeland is this? >> it is yours, sir? are we back on that again? >> i don't know, is it? >> you tell me, professor. >> how did it get to be this homeland. >> the genocide of native americans justifies every bad thing that ever happens to the united states. >> no, it's a question. i'm not quite sure that you're putting words in my mouth would necessarily be an answer to the question, but how exactly did this homeland get to be the homeland. >> why do you live here? if you hate america so much, why have you chosen to stay here?

>> it's my country. it's also my homeland. >> but why stay if you -- >> you heard you sort of scoff and dismiss the genocide of american indians. >> we'll get to that. >> we're at that. you're the one that was just like scoffing a the idea that there might be some implication to the idea that you exterminate entire populations of people to clear this homeland that needs defending. >> you've been found to be a dishonest broker. >> really? >> you have. and i don't know anything about you, professor. i've just researched you. what i've found is that you you've been accused of grocery overat a ti stating and i'll give you examples. first of all, this is the investigative committee that came after you at the university of colorado at boulder. the investigative committee came out and said, quote, churchill has created myths under the banner of academic scholarship. they found a, quote, pattern of

deliberate academic misconduct involving falsification and fabrication. specifically with respect to your claims about the native americans. go ahead. >> well, it might be of interest to you to know that that committee on the basis of that report and their mustering of so-called factual data were found to have engaged in myth making in first degree. guilty of everything they accused me of. to the extent that they had to be immunized from the consequences of their actions by the administration of the university of colorado. and that a panel of scholars, university of colorado, went through point by point in exhaustive detail and produced a report for the aaup, which is posted online for journal of academic freedom, found that there was no validity to any of the findings of that investigative report plus there's a jury in denver,

colorado, which concluded, having been told repeatedly that me having been actually guilty of any of the offenses that are delineated in the investigative report, any one would have been sufficient grounds for firing and a jury determined that they had no grounds for firing on that basis at all. >> the jury believed. just so the viewers understand, the jury believed that they were using your academic misconduct as a ruse to fire you for your comments about 9/11. that's what the jury concluded. they did not say that the conclusions about your academic misconduct were fair or unfair. that's the truth. hold on because there's a second point. that is it wasn't just the investigative committee as you know. several historians have come out and said you misrepresented the facts. an you can la professor who is a member of the cherokee nation and two others. they called it an out and out fabrication that the westerners

infected the indians with smallpox based on giving them all these blankets. you claimed up to 400,000 native americans were killed. it's just the making up of data and shouldn't be tolerated in science. every aspect of churchill's tale is fabricated. churchill has fabricated incidents that never occurred and individuals who never existed. he sited sources in support of his tale and concealed evidence in his possession that disconfirms his version of events. and he wrote to "the los angeles times" that history is bad enough, there's no need to embellish it. he thinks you were inflating the numbers unfairly. he went on to say he blatantly misrepresented me, it was totally inappropriate. i'm his source for this allegation and it's wrong. it's academic fraud sustained over several essays. so they're all lying about ward churchill? >> you probably should know what

you're talking about on national tv, maggie. >> i'm glad i have you here to explain it to me. >> that was charles lamar brown who was fired. >> and you were fired for academic misconduct. tough to claim the higher ground. >> you're going to suggest that that discredits me, you accept that that's discrediting thomas brown. >> people tell lies about you. a lot of people tell lies about you. a lot of them. a long list. >> yeah. i have to say there's probably a lot of people that tell lies about you out there, too. >> okay. >> or at least what you would view as lies but they don't get tend to get parsed by academic committees and there's a rather large number that can be cited. >> if you stay tuned for nothing else, watch the next segment. in it, we lay bare the fallacy of his claims about the twin towers on 9/11.

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what the earlier part of our exchange with ward churchill proves is that the professor has a tendency to play fast and loose with the facts. what this next segment proves is that he makes them up entirely. especially when it comes to the subject of 9/11. your justification, one of the

many you've offered for the reason the terrorists have the root to bomb the world trade center, you said repeatedly it's because the cia had offices there. that made it game for a military strike. >> according to military rules. i don't think that's true. i've made this point repeatedly, that's not true in international law but the pentagon invokes that continuously. >> you realize that those cia offices, a, were covert and not known by anyone prior to the actual bombing and, b, those were in world trade center 7 ha was not attacked by the terrorists, fell down due to burning debris. >> well, we are parsing again. i don't know what they did or didn't know. what you're inroads are into the intelligence apparatus of al qaeda -- >> do you know better than i? >> no. but i don't know that they didn't know. and i think perhaps this is at least is precise as u.s. precision bombing.

>> they didn't hit world trade center 7. even if they knew, let's assume your invented story about them knowing, somehow they knew but nobody else did. >> that wasn't the story. i said i don't know. >> they didn't hit world trade center 7, sir, so it makes no sense. y you offer these assertions as fact. you have young college students who for many years believed this stuff. only when you're held to account that people start to see you don't know what you're talking about on a lot of these issues. >> i know exactly what i'm talking about, i know that that was at least as precise as u.s. precision bombing. >> that's a dodge. you claim they targeted -- >> no, that's a fact is what that happens to be. >> you claim they targeted it because the cia was there and that made it fair game. a, there's no evidence they knew the cia was in there. in fact the evidence is to the contrary that no one knew. and b, they didn't get tower 7. they got the first and the second towers.

th it came down because of debris. >> maybe that's the way they got at it. it's at least as precision as u.s. bombing. where they fell miles from the target. >> are you writing a textbook? >> i hope so. >> are you in the process? >> i'm always writing, whether it turns out to be a textbook. >> but a textbookp is there a university still in the market for ward churchill's thoughts? >> there's universities all over the country that are in the market for word churchill's thoughts. >> as a text manual for students? >> i would suppose. i've not written a textbook per se, don't know that i will, think that i might at some point in any case. >> is it true that you believe we may get more attacks that resemble the 9/11 attacks and we deserve them? >> give my experience misery in airports ever since 9/11, i'm

not the only one that assumes we might get more attacks. >> and that we deserve them? >> you keep doing what you're doing, you'll probably get responded to in kind. there's a sort of a symmetry to it. i don't know. there's a fair amount of collateral damage inflicted by drone attacks. that's a little easier to put under the radar. people don't tend to hear about that here. but people tend to hear about it in areas of the drone attacks are occurring and they're occurring at a fairly high degree of frequency and the toll is pretty high. i would imagine that's upsetting people. don't you? >> do you believe the united states ought to be bombed? >> i think the united states by its own rules is subject to being bombed. >> you can't answer the question. >> yeah, i have answered the question. >> yes or no. >> i think the united states deserves to be bombed. >> if it does not comply to law, it opens itself up to it. bombing, that is. it opens itself up to -- >> why can't you have the

courage to just answer honestly yes or no. do we deserve to be bombed? just say it if you think it's true. >> i say that if you open yourself up under rule of law for reciprocation in kind, it's quite likely going to happen. i will say that at that point no more than a murderer who is convicted and punished, have you no complaint. that's what i say. >> let me know what you think. go to facebook.com/the kelly file or send me a tweet @megyn kelly. but our time with ward churchill is not yet over. on 9/11 this week, we'll bring you the best part of the interinterview, when denesh desouza joined us on the set in defense of the united states of america. up next, new information on the new virus quickly spreading across the midwest and southeast

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developing tonight what is wing called an unprecedented fast spreading virus hospitalizing hundreds of children in a dozen states. it's called the enterovirus. so far no vaccine or medication to stop it. live in the newsroom with that story. >> megyn the virus is rare but it's not new. enterovirus was first identified back in the 1960s. the reason why people are so susceptible to it now is because it hasn't been around for a while so we haven't had practice in fighting it off. there is no vaccine. just like the common cold it

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live address to the nation about the isis terror threat and what the u.s. plans to do about it. are we about to bomb syria and who will help us? follow me on twitte twitter @megynkelly. see you tomorrow at 9:00. welcome to hanty. this is a fox news alert. former baltimore ravens running back ray rice was released from team and suspended indefinitely from the nfl yesterday after a video surfaced showing him punching hz then-fiancee, now wife, janay palmer. a longer video was shown and the couple can reportedly be heard shouting obscenities at each other and palmer is seen spitting in rice's face before he punched her. >> sean, the punch that knocked out a young woman and eventually derailed a young man's football career is now rocking one of the most powerful