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please remember the spin stops here because we are looking out for you. breaking tonight, the air campaign against syria is already in serious trouble before it even begins. congressional sources tell "the kelly file" tonight the president may not be able to fund this war due to doubts about the mission. this as we learn that the broad coalition the president promised is apparently anything but. welcome to "the kelly file" everyone. i'm megyn kelly. it is less than 48 hours since president obama rolled out his plan for taking on the terror army known as the islamic state. and we are seeing significant problems already with the president's plan. first, reports of growing uneasiness on capitol hill about backing the president's war plans. both dovish democrats and even
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some hawkish republicans are saying a likely vote on funding this next week could be tougher than first expected due to doubts about the strategy. next, the "new york times" reported that the arab governments in this region have given at best tepid support to the u.s. plan. egypt says it's busy with its own problems. jordan claims the same. turkey says not to expect its support. saudi arabia may let us use air bases, but maybe not. even our european allies are far from reliable partners. germany already said no to air strikes. and the uk said no too. and when pressed through us a bone, well maybe. on top of that "the washington post" reported today that president obama has rejected what was characterized as the best military advice from central command on how to win this fight. the top general who oversees this region advises a modest group of american special forces to help guide the iraqi military
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as it takes on isis, which the president turned down cold. so where does that leave us? joining me now, charles krauthammer, syndicated columnist, fox news contributor and author of "things that matter" which just hit over a million copies sold. charles, good to see you tonight. which of those many problems is the biggest one in pursuing this strategy? >> well, i think the entire strategy which stands on these three legs is really in trouble. he can't get congressional support. i suspect in the end if he makes sort of an ultimatum congress is not going to want to deny the president. but you can see how weak his support is. and the fact that he isn'tng fo because democrats in congress especially those who are running for election are begging them not to make them cast a vote in favor of war. that's how tepid the support there. the real issue among the allies, a complete farce and fiction, is
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turkey. turkey is right next door to syria. if you have an air campaign, you want to have it come out of turkish air bases. and in fact turkey is a part of nato. turkey has said no, no use of the air bases. >> they are not on the fence. >> that was probably the most important element in this whole thing. the last element you mentioned i think is perhaps the most important. obama said we have to imitate what we did in somalia and yemen, which is quite ridiculous. somalia we've had two air strikes all year. he's going to defeat isis, which his own administration is calling a threat unlike any we've ever seen with two air strikes? drone strikes? that doesn't apply. the only thing that applies is the initial campaign against afghanistan 13 years ago. and that was a small contingent of special ops on the ground who guided in the bombers, the planes above.
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that was us. and worked in coordination with the local troops with the northern alliance. within 100 days the taliban government had been destroyed and defeated. that's the only thing that's going to work with isis. and if obama turned down the plan, the plan you mentioned, is the one that most imitates afghanistan, special ops on the ground, american airplanes in the air, local infantry. if he turned it down, that does not bode well. >> how are we going to do this if secretary kerry who's now trying to, you know, gin up support and is suggesting that not to worry, i've got some sort of support from 40 countries, but we don't know what it looks like yet. but if he doesn't gin up actual military support for the u.s., how are we going to get this done? >> we can't. and that's what makes the boast that the president had to lead a broad coalition. yeah, broad coalition of
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countries holding our coats and issuing statements. remember how democrats ridiculed george w. because he went it alone into iraq? according to the u.s. army the center of military history, george w. had 38 allies with boots on the ground amounting to more than 25,000 allies on the ground with us. obama as of today has zero. and there are very few prospects of any allies contributing anybody on the ground. and thus far we haven't heard of anybody even helping us in the air. >> you talk about the uk saying no, we are not going to help with the air strikes and then david cameron walked that back to, well maybe. but the uk isn't even going to help us, charles. i mean, the prospects don't look very good for help. >> and that, i think, the uk as you say, really is the litmus
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test. they were with us in afghanistan. they were with us in iraq thick and thin when things were really bad. >> why not now? >> and here they are -- well, i think the real issue here is this. you've got a president who's ambivalent. a president who clearly is reluctant. a president who obviously does not want to do this. a president who took us into afghanistan with the surge tripling the number of troops. and he's in afghanistan he decides to go for it. and in the same sentence where he announces the surge he announces a withdrawal date, which totally demoralizes our allies. a president who goes into libya leading from behind and then leaves immediately and it falls into chaos. they see a president who does not commit himself to win or to succeed. only to go in and to get out. and if you have to command your armies, whether it's a british air force, a turkish air force or any of the allies on the ground in the region, you say to
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yourself am i going to follow this man into battle? risk my troops and my support at home for a man who clearly is not committed to this? that's the issue. it's a lack of confidence in the president who draws a red line then walks away and pretends he never drew the red line at all. >> and then if we go over there essentially by ourselves without serious support from any muslim country, are we stirring up the same hornets nest or more hornets nests than we started with? this is so bad that it's become the fodder for economcomics inc those normally supportive of president obama. i give you the following from jon stewart. >> i'm going to need to see this on the big board. ahh. okay. that looks awful christiany. [ laughter ] got a little bit of a crusadey
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vibe. i hesitate to ask this, but can a brother get an ottoman up in this? >> includes only one muslim nation, turkey. we only needed one, baby. >> any suggestion that turkey is well onboard for any sort of military action may be a problem for turkey. >> but the point is well taken, is it not? >> look, i suspect what will happen is this, we do have allies on the ground namely the kurds for whom it's a real fight for their own lives. and they do have a good record of fighting. some iraqi units, we can't depend on the iraqi army in general. but we will now begin to have some influence with our advisors. and what remains of the secular syrian opposition, it isn't a
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lot because obama waited three years. we do have allies on the ground. i don't think it's enough. and i think the military will tell you it isn't enough to win. but perhaps to contain them. >> last question. given the problems we've just discussed, is there any chance the president does now what he did a year ago and find some way to reverse course on this? >> he can't. if he did that it would lead to such a collapse of confidence in the u.s. it would be a catastrophe. it would take years for america to recover. his presidency would be over. and he'd become a laughing stock. he can't do that. what i think he will do is a limited operation with some of the allies, meaning the locals on the ground, and try to hold back isis for a couple of years until he leaves office and ends up retiring to the golf course. >> oh, boy. charles, good to see you. >> pleasure to be here. up next, an innocent college freshman murdered. his confessed killer says it was
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revenge for u.s. policy toward muslims. and this man on the left is not his only victim. so why aren't the feds calling this terrorism? plus, we saved the best for last. ward churchill versus denesh and a must-see debate about america and the world. >> is there anything good about america? havee done any good? boy, you have a long list of the terrible things we've done. can you think of anything good we did? >> not off the top. but i'm sure you'll fill in the blanks. >> that's the problem with professor churchill because people do not look at him as an honest broker. when you cannot -- you cannot offer one thing. maybe liberating europe? ♪ defiance is in our bones. defiance never grows old. citracal maximum. easily absorbed calcium plus d. beauty is bone deep.
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where is the outrage for a young man, 19 years old who was killed because he was an american. that's it. this kid was murdered because he was an american. and that's where the story should begin. that's where the discussion should take place. because domestic terrorism is here. it happened. let this be the face that america sees and knows that domestic terrorism is already here. >> that's the voice of todd pettengill, host for the new york radio station wplj. he was among the first to draw attention to the case of murder
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victim brendan tevlin. on the right is his confessed killer, mohamed brown. according to court documents brown says he murdered the innocent college freshman for "vengeance." bob sexton national security editor of theblaze.com. bob, good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> this guy's a confessed murderer of four people, three in washington state, one in new jersey who was brendan tevlin who you need to google because he is the poster child for what you want your child to grow up to be from everything i've read. and he was gunned down like an animal in the street while just driving his car because mr. brown believed he deserved it thanks to the u.s. actions against muslims. this is what brown told the cops. so i ask you whether this is the future that we're going to need to deal with when it comes to isis, al qaeda or anybody else, this type of lone wolf terrorism that pops up and doesn't get
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called what it is? >> it's absolutely the future. and it's something we've been dealing with for years now. but the situation with isis has made it worse. isis' propaganda effort is smooth actually using social media and just the internet in general. it's easy to essential self-jihadize. you can decide you want to become a jihadi just based upon your connection to the internet and your desire to connect with isis that way. some go inside there, but as you said the lone wolf here it already exists. it's getting worse right now. it's very difficult to completely eradicate no matter how much attention law enforcement pays to. >> this is one of the biggest threats law enforcement worries about because it's so hard to detect. >> it is. one of the problems though particularly with this administration there's this constant desire to say, well, because there's no outside terrorist entity that is perhaps sponsoring or directing this attack, it's not an act of terrorism. that's just simply false. in fact, al qaeda's propaganda efforts through inspire magazine are directly meant to do just this, megyn. they're meant to take people who will take into their own hands
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essentially this jihadist philosophy and act on it. that's the whole purpose. >> he is a devout muslim who described this murder as a just kill in response for the lives taken in iraq, afghanistan, syria and iran. called it vengeance and so on. and not only that but he was convicted of bank fraud a couple years ago. and the leader of that bank fraud ring was a terrorist. i mean, how much more do they need? >> this is -- again, people want to pretend for certain reasons, political reasons that this is not the problem that it is. we saw workplace violence was the name attached to what happened at ft. hood. also the shooting at the arkansas recruiting station in 2009. that individual said he's a jihadist and did this on orders from al qaeda and the arabian peninsula. he was just charged with capital murder in that case. we see these instances people radicalizing are doing explicitly what al qaeda is trying to get them to do. when people act on it, whether it's the times square bombing in
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2010 or others -- >> the boston bombers. >> or exactly. the tsarnaev brothers, they're just crazy. they have nothing to do with radical islam, they have nothing to do with these terrorist organizations, that's garbage. this is what al qaeda wants, isis knows it. they can get people under their radar and this is the best means to attack us in our homeland. >> thank you. >> thank you. another homeland security concern, hundreds of americans waging jihad overseas. we documented this from minnesota in particular. while still holding passports from the united states. scott brown is the republican nominee for u.s. senate in new hampshire. he's a former senator from massachusetts. while he was in congress he introduced a bill to revoke the american citizenship of terrorists, which didn't go anywhere. senator, you think it seems pretty noncontroversial and yet it was, why? >> well, politics always plays a role in the united states senate unfortunately. when you have a good idea, there are those who want to kill those
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ideas. it's something actually i was very thankful to see after i spoke to ted cruz that he in fact filed to make sure that we have and we know that there are maybe 300 plus people fighting for isis. and what they've done is they've, i think, given up their citizenship and left it at the door. and if they go back and forth, they're not coming back to the united states to buy a house with a white picket fence. they're coming back to hurt and kill us and change our way of life. so they can't hide behind the constitution and the rights provided by our constitution. and taken away that passport, let's keep them there with their new friends. >> it seems like they say, look, there's a reason the bill didn't go anywhere and the reason ted cruz's proposal has similar pushback is you can't just willy nilly revoke the citizenship of somebody suspected to be a terrorist without giving them due process. >> well, without due respect it's not willy nilly. i can see how people like to belittle and demonize this opportunity to really make sure
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we can protect our citizens. these are people who are online that we've identified who have said we are going to go to the united states to march down pennsylvania avenue or plant a flag in the white house that we know a u.s. citizens who have taken up arms. we're not talking about, you know, maybe we sort of kind of think. we know who they are. we've identified them through reliable sources beyond a reasonable doubt. at that point they should not be given and given the protections of the united states because they have left them at the door. they have taken up arms to kill us and change our way of life. and if they want to stay in their country, their new country, then let's keep them there so they don't come back here to hurt our citizens. >> it's like, you know, if we met these people on the battlefield in syria, we would bomb them. but if they show up at jfk with a u.s. passport, we welcome them. >> well, we have to fix it. if you don't think that we're under threat right now, as you know i have said, the border needs to be closed.
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it's too porous. we have reports from homeland that there are potential isis threats potentially moving forward. this is something where senator shaheen and i disagree. she supports the dream act and the like. i would hope before the senate leaves the session they do a couple of things, they take up the ability for us to close the border. it needs to be closed. we need to secure it, folks. it's part of our national security. and quite frankly our economic security. and they should also take up something like this when we know who these people are to make sure we can keep them there so they can't flow back and forth like they potentially can do and hide behind our citizenship and their rights guaranteed under the constitution. they've left them, as i said i hate to keep repeating it, they've left them at the door. they've given up that prirown i right now against democrat jean
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shaheen. right now they say she's leading in the polls, but it's tighter on the other side. >> that's not true. we're working hard and i appreciate the opportunity to get on. >> all right. we're going to be watching come midterm election, senator. good to see you. >> good to see you too, megyn. thank you. an outspoken defender of womens rights in muslim countries is now coming under new fire. remember this woman? >> i have systematically been condemned by muslim individuals, muslim organizations, relatives of any time i bring up the treatment of women in islam or the link between violence and violence justified in the name of islam -- >> well, they're trying to silence her again next. what can i do with my $7 a month android plan from tracfone? email the school. call the doctor. text the groomer. find gear for soccer. send invites to a party. post karate pics. help sean with history.
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i am systematically being condemned by muslim individuals, organizations, relatives, any time i bring up the treatment of women in islam or the link between violence and violence justified in the name of islam, it's muslims who commit violence against women or others who bring the quran and the habib and context on the table. >> that was a somali-born woman who has taken criticism as she's an outspoken critic of islam and the deplorable state of womens rights in muslim countries. she has been silenced by certain muslim groups in america before. and it may happen again at yale university this coming monday. trace gallagher has more on this developing story from our west coast bureau. trace. >> megyn, so far the yale muslim
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student organization isn't demanding that her invitation to speak be rescinded but they are recommending a second speaker be added to refute her views. a letter co-signed by 35 other campus groups that reads in part, quoting, the comments made on islam have been classified as hate speech and have been considered unprotected libel and slander. she has been condemned for them by national organizations and universities. last spring brandized university not only disinvited her to speak but also pulled her honorary degree. she spoke about that on "the kelly file" in april. listen. >> i know that my presence for the muslim students -- is offensive. it may be whatever they call it, insulting. it is controversial. but i thought that's exactly -- >> but the yale muslim student association also claims that she doesn't hold the credentials to
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speak as an authority on islam. critics say not only does she hold the credentials, she lived it from fleeing an arranged marriage in somalia to having her life threatened for making a film critical of islam. the director shot and killed. as for a second speaker being added, the president of yale's william f. buckly program is standing firm, freedom of expression and freedom of speech, then having someone there to correct her views would only hinder the principle or idea further of free speech. she speaks on monday. megyn. >> and we will cover it. thank you, trace. well, professor ward churchill spent years lecturing young minds about why he thinks america is evil. up next, ward churchill dineshd' souza. >> let me ask you this. why did you become a teacher?
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from the world headquarters of fox news, it's "the kelly file" with megyn kelly. earlier this week we showed you some of our exclusive interview with former university of colorado professor ward churchill. a man who spent decades lecturing young minds about what is wrong with america. churchill eventually lost his job after his essay comparing the 9/11 victims to an infamous nazi finally hit the national media. he was unapologetic for his hurtful statements. and he still believes those victims arguably deserved it and that america is an evil empire. tonight we bring you perhaps the best part of this entire interview when dinesh d'souza, the creator of the documentary film "america" joined us onset, we discussed the professor's world view and how his opinions
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are shared at prestigious universities across this country. watch. this is the world view, not just professor churchill, that america's evil and needs to be stopped. but of many who are not on the left necessarily but on the far left. >> yeah. you know, to me this is very fascinating. at one point when i saw ward churchill in his home in atlanta he had said to me, dinesh, you became a conservative because you came to america in the '80s in the reagan era. and he described his involvement in the vietnam war and how to some degree that had turned him against not just the military but against america. and it occurred to me, you know, we can think whatever we want about vietnam, but i think what is remarkable is how a whole generation on the left went through that war. and it wasn't just that they turned against the war, but they made the war a metaphor for the country from the beginning. so they went right back to christopher columbus and they
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re-wrote american history and become a series of vietnams of war crimes one after the other. and they haven't stopped. so if the country is bad, it deserves what it gets. and in a sense the whole thrust of his argument depends on are we in fact nazi germany, yes or no? now, when i see the world trade center, i see something totally different than he does. in fact, what i see is america representing a technological capitalism that is making the whole world better. i mean, if nike or if apple opens up a jobs wanted sign in bombay, the lines will be around the block. why? because people are seeing hundreds of millions of people coming out of poverty in singapore and thailand, in china, in india, now, a lot of people still remain poor. i know that. but this technological capitalism here in america is not the problem. it's in fact a solution to the problem. so to treat the world trade center as a symbol of evil, it's actually a symbol of good in the
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world. >> my point, my major point was for all the buzz terms that sound nice when you put them on, i think you see a form of corporatism here. and corporatism is not necessarily capitalist. corporatism could be fascist for example moosolini was -- could be as in soviet union. ideology frame it in and certainly we don't have a free market. >> is there anything good about america? >> is there anything good about america? yeah, i love to drive back and forth across the place. and i love their people. >> have we done anything good in our history? >> i don't know who the we is here. you talking about the government? >> yes, the united states of america. have we done any good? because you have a long list of the terrible things we've done. can you think of anything good we did? >> not off the top, but i'm sure you'll fill in the blanks. >> that's the problem with professor churchill. because people do not look at him as an honest broker. when you cannot -- you cannot
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offer one thing. maybe liberating europe? maybe -- >> that was the soviet union. >> ending world war ii? nothing? maybe fighting a war to end slavery. >> there were 27 million soviets who died during that war that had a little more to liberating europe if that's what you want to talk about. >> you're making my point, sir. >> right, but the soviet union was directly invaded. so they were merely protecting themselves in fighting the nazis. they were perfectly happy to be allied with the nazis before that, do you remember? and the united states not only liberated europe but rebuilt europe. so former enemies, germany and japan, which were against us are now friends. >> i'm familiar with the history. >> every year tens of millions of people try to come to the united states. >> yeah. >> they try to come. and if we lifted the curtains more would come. half the world would come here. >> i'm sure. >> now, they're coming here voting with their feet, leaving everything that matters to them behind. they're coming here because they think that this place provides them with a better life.
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are they wrong? are they coming to an evil empire? what do you know that they don't? >> they're following their wealth. to its destination. >> an economic opportunity -- >> that's because the economic opportunity in no small part accrues from their own countries at the expropriation of their wealth. >> let me ask you this, why did you become a teacher? >> to teach. to profess. >> to offer this world view? >> yes. >> were you doing that for years at the university of colorado? >> yes. >> when you wrote your essay on 9/11 which you then turned into a book a couple years later, 2003, did people read it? >> not only that i got a runner-up for best writing human rights award for it. >> from whom? >> -- myers center. >> so it was known that you have these views, that you had written this essay and followed it up with a book?
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>> yes. not everyone's ignorant. >> and this wasn't a problem for your colleagues at the university or elsewhere as far as you know? >> as far as i know i was probably in the top tenth percentile in terms of teaching effectiveness as rated by the students, the university of arts and sciences, which is the big one. i won a thomas jefferson award. i won president's university service -- >> after this essay? >> oh, no. >> i'm asking after the essay and once people had read it? prior to it becoming a national story. was it -- was there anything within the academic community which suggested to you people have read it and did not have a problem with it? >> now you have got to hear his answer to that question and the follow-up. it's unbelievable. it's next. when fixed income experts work with equity experts who work with regional experts
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so it's situational, okay? becomes fashionable to take a particular position. and then you invent the -- >> no, i understand. and i think we've laid out for the viewers that it didn't become a thing until you got asked to speak at hamilton college and it hit the national media and became a thing. but for four years it was not an issue, dinesh. and as far as we can tell that is not because the academic community had no idea about how ward churchill thinks or what he was teaching his students. >> there are two remarkable things here. one is, and i think, ward, we are finally in a point of agreement is that a lot of the radicals who started out wanting to bomb things and blow up things decided that there's a more effective way to promote radicalism and that is to become teachers. you saw this with bill ayers, we see this with ward churchill. >> bernadine who went onto teach at northwestern law school. >> these are people who can have receptions for a young obama, the people who can go to the faculty cocktail parties, that can be at the democratic
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convention and they fit in. nobody thinks it's odd to have them there. now, ward's right, once it all blows up suddenly he becomes inconvenient, but he's right to feel a little bit outraged because before that -- >> they scapegoated him. >> the same people were like, hey, ward, we kind of agree with you. we may not blow up the pentagon, but your premise that america's the bad guy, your premise that america's the evil empire, not only do we agree with it, we teach that stuff ourselves. >> i would also point out to you it's not just former radicals from the left. you got individual who is eligible for prosecution as war crimes professor of law at university of california. i wouldn't want to mention john hugh's name, but we're talking about that. >> he's the one that wrote the memo justifying the use of -- >> well, he wasn't alone. the other one is a federal judge at this point. then you've got a couple -- >> but wait, are you contending that american academia does not
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lean left? you're not contending that, are you? >> in my experience it would lean rather further to the right. >> really? >> really. >> how do you describe yourself politically? >> the way i've always described myself is as an indigenous ch, s which is that i take the circumstances, situation of indigenous people's as first priority. i'm probably the closest approximation to come up with a general understanding of these neat little political labels to get fixed on people. it would probably be anarchist. >> dinesh, you know, in closing we've had a couple of these interviews now. we've sat with bill ayers and we sat with ward churchill, and my question to you is whether you agree with the professor that these are unusual examples within academia or whether they
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are the norm in these academic circles and speak accurately about what the students who are going to these colleges are hearing from their professors. not just about the world, but about the country in which we live. >> see, i think we're seeing -- we've seen a real shift in american politics. and most people are not even aware of it. i mean, if you go back for example to the truman administration or fdr, the general agreement was it didn't matter if you were republican or democrat, america's a good country, america's a force for good in the world. the free market system creates wealth if you then choose to distribute it. it was a american consensus. what we see now and repeatedly is that consensus has broken down and left has emerged out of the '60s and out of the vietnam war that sees america in bitter hostile terms. they see america as the enemy. they actually believe we're the evil empire. and so it is conceivable that they look at their job, their moral job, as one of restraining, curtailing and
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undermining america. and they're doing that in america. now, this left has become extremely powerful in the media, in academia, in hollywood. and it's now moving into the elementary and secondary schools. and the conservatives are focused on the election, who's going to take the senate, who's going to win in 2016. not realizing that the culture, the high ground of the culture, is being occupied very powerfully by the left. and it's the left in which ward churchill is not the mainstream but he's a perfectly respectable part of it. and has been for 30 years. that's why guys like ward and bill ayers are surprised when they become controversial figures because they've been inhabiting an academic environment very comfortably. and it's not until the bee gets out of the bottle and people go, whoa, then they go whoa. we can't believe people are shocked because we've been saying this for a long time and nobody raised an objection. >> dinesh, thank you very much. professor churchill, thank you too. >> and that was it.
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what do you think? it's gotten so much feedback from you our viewers this week over that extremely popular interview that we had. it was very well-received. not because people love ward churchill but because they wanted to hear the exchange and the challenge of these controversial views which have sat out there largely untouched for a long, long time. if you missed any of our interview with ward churchill, all three parts at facebook.com/thekellyfile. and i can't end the segment without giving him credit for coming in here and standing up and taking the questions. for that i appreciate his being here. and coming up, is team clinton unleashing on barack obama? wait until you hear this. and up next, remember mariam ibrahim, the young sudanese mother sentenced to death for refusing to denounce her christian faith. she gave birth to her child in
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this was the headline on drudge this month. team clinton book ratchets up attack on obama's feckless policies. so is this book that he was referring to by fox news contributor doug shohan really a shot by hillary clinton at her old boss? earlier i sat down with a former team clinton strategist to talk about the russia/china ax is,
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the new cold war and america's crisis of leadership. watch. you're talking about the feckless policies in a leadership country that's run by a democrat. and you are a democrat. >> yeah. this is a -- >> what's up with that? >> -- bigger issue than politics. this is about patriotism and i dare say the risks to america from russia and china, both aggressive and doing everything they can to destabilize the world. >> why would you be focused on russia if you are actually a hillary clinton secret operative, why would you focus on russia where she said the reset worked. she famously gave the button to her russian counterpart and it actually didn't say reset, it said something else and she said don't worry. >> it certainly didn't work. i am not a secret or above board hillary operative. what i am is a patriotic american who has looked at the world, megyn, and sees
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instability in russia and ukraine, instability in the south china sea, the east china sea and russia and china working together against american interests. >> that's the keys. you say our position as a superpower is going like this. and those two working together pose a real threat to us in the world, one that you don't believe our current president's paying enough attention to. >> that's exactly right. i mean, you're right the reset didn't work. last week as i think most people now know the russians actually did a test bombing run of north america over canadian air space where they were practicing an offensive attack on the united states. and they've changed their strategic doctrine to include preemptive war. >> what would you have president obama of whom the audience should know you've been very critical -- >> i sure have. >> wa would you have him do differently? >> simple. first, i would have had bombings run in iraq and syria against isis. >> you are a democrat, doug --
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>> no, i'm a patriot. i'm committing to the values that our country holds dear. and any time that america is under risk or at assault by foreign enemies, i believe you have to stand up regardless of party. >> do other democrats feel as you do? do you think a significant number do? >> certainly joe lieberman does, dianne feinstein says the president is too cautious. i predict we'll see more and more democrats speaking out against what i call feckless policy. >> what do you think bill clinton thinks of all that. >> i don't know what bill clinton thinks, but the bill clinton i worked for took action in syria. the bill clinton i know was prepared to negotiate but also was prepared to use force whenever necessary. and he made it clear his greatest mistake, his greatest regret, was not intervening in rwanda to prevent slaughter. >> you as a democrat, you seem like a moderate democrat, you're
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obviously not far left. where would you place the president? >> he's a left wing democrat with a philosophy of noninvolvement, noninterference. i think it's not even so much leading from behind, megyn, as it's not leading at all. ipg it's tragically wrong. >> it's spelled out in your new book. >> it is. >> all the best. just ahead, she refused to renounce her christian faith, and now the young christian mother who once faced a sentence of 100 lashes and then death by hanging sits down with yours truly in her first interview since her release from prison. a preview of our "the kelly file" exclusive is next. plus, coming up on "hannity". >> we've seen the muslim brotherhood, hamas, hezbollah, al qaeda, now we see isis. they all want to rule the world. and the caliphate is the chief prize. patented sonic technology with up to 27% more brush movements get healthier gums in two weeks guaranteed.
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you're holding your newborn baby. your young toddler son is in there with you. you're knowing that you have been sentenced to die. how did you deal with that? >> monday night see -- welcome to "hannity." tonight for the entire hour i'm going to be joined by a distinguished and lively studio audience. we're going to be focusing on the fight against radical islam and what it means for the safety of our homeland. but before we bring in our guests, this week marked a big turning point, specifically when it comes to the isis terror network. now, the cia said today that the number of isis fighters could be as many as 31,500, which is three times previous estimates. now, after we watched the group ravage through iraq and syria attempting to create their caliphate and inflict mass genocide on minorities and