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washington at a rally for israel. get more information at rally for israel.com. that's it for now. this is mike huckabee from new york, good night and god bless. stay tuned for justice with judge jeanine. >> hello and welcome to a special sunday edition of "justice." i am judge jeanine pirro. thanks for being with us. tonight the latest on the isis threat. you remember the boston bombers? their sister is now in a little trouble of her own. but first for my open. last night a new isis video showing another hostage execution of a third western captive. this time david haines a british humanitarian aid worker decapitated and another britt is threatened at the end of the video. we have faced in the history of our nation and the history of the world brutal dictators,
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insane leaders, genocidal leaders but this is different. the jihad against us but all religions involves not just one country or leader but haters all over the globe. political islam and jihad that accompanies it has as a fundamental rule conversion to fanatical religion or death. this enemy is not made up of a team as our president claims. in the name of their god they crucified christians, behead muslims americans and brits. rape an mad kerr -- massacred women and children and put their heads on sticks. borism. this is unlike anything we have experienced in recent history. there are no rules of war no rules of engagement no geneva
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convention, just pure savage re. with a makes them even more dangerous, they are the wealthiest terrorist organization in history bringing in $3 million a day in addition to the half billion iraqi banks. this is the antithesis of everything america stand for the antithesis of the belief that we have inail even able rights of our natural kree tate tore natural rights the declaration of independence lays out. our enemy wants nothing more than to destroy every value and everything else we have worked for. this is an extraordinary moment in our history. like the defeated hitler who had us install the elimination of jews, the enemy we face is its goal the elimination of civilization as we know it. this moment in history with a
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commander-in-chief who is a true leader who says what he means and means what he says. a leader who is both respected and feared. is barack obama that leader? i for one am haunted by the image of our president running back to the golf course within 10 minutes of announcing the beheading of james foley to fist bump his pals and prime minister cameron also on vacation but running back to deal with the crisis. honestly i am tired of people saying you are entitled to a vacation. mr. president, you just had three weeks at martha's vineyard and today after the third beheading you are in the golf course again. john kerry tries to partner up with our arab hallies who don't really trust you.
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even you admit the on the ticops didn't look so good. it is more than optics it is a message to our enemy that is unmis unmistakab unmistakable. it is not just one message but the many through your presidency that shapes the enemy's perception of your resolve starting with the 2009 apology for being an american speech in cairo, to your not sending troops askito our men begging f help in benghazi saying you are going to reduce the army to preworld war ii levels to constantly signaling we are not a super power. while you trump at the reduction of our army to preworld war ii levels there are those that say that's a mistake. >> we are fighting a terrorist army, not an organization. it's going to take an army to beat an army. we won't have any boots on the ground in syria is fantasy.
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i will no not let this president suggest to the american people we can out source our security and this is not about our safety. >> even your pathetic efforts saying we tried but failed to rescue the two americans subsequently beheaded sent an even clearer message. now there's nothing wrong with try pg and failing to save americans, but you are truly clueless when you announce to our enemies for political expedience see here in the united states that we failed. they now know to separate the hostages and keep them moibl. these times possibly offer any real leader. i don't believe that you are up to the task. neither do 70 percent of americans. how can we? two weeks ago you had no strategy. first we were going to detain them then degrade them then destroy them and conduct the
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counter offensive. secretary of state can't say we are at war when even your own pentagon says we are. one doesn't have to wonder why your numbers are so low. then again you may be learning something on the golf course that we are not aware of that maybe could help you save america. that's my open. with me now fox news military analyst and former vice chief of staff of the army jack keen. good evening general. you say a ground campaign is the only way to defeat isis. the president size we are not putting our troops on the ground and iraqis we trained ran soons they saw isis. what are we going to do? >> there are two major campaigns syria and iraq simultaneously. i believe we should attack syria demonstrating a sense of urgency
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and aggressiveness. then the ground campaign as you mentioned, that is the campaign that's going to retake the territory lost. we call those kunter offensive. tying gres river valley from south to north one from east to west in the euphrates river valley that will head out to the anbar providence. they have had problems dealing with isis. we need the kurds to do it they have the will but also need a lot of weapons and sunni tribes. that is an odd combination of organizations to begin with. what we define that as is risk associated with whether this is going to be successful or not. judge, no one knows if it's going to be successful. we shouldn't be overly optimistic about the harsh reality here. what should we do? we have the degree of unsirnt. in the military what we do is mitigate the risk.
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we take advisors and put them down into organizations to assist them with the fight. the president's decision is only going to send them back to the crusade headquarters. the fighting goes beyond those headquarters and that's where the advisors should be. i hope eventually changes that decision. second we need to bring in haai support to help the ground offensive. to do that we need controllers to coordinate it. right now there is no plans at all to have air ground patrollers to have a counter defensive. that is a huge mistake. >> go ahead, gentlemen. >> the other thing is we need -- he mentioned i did like the comprehensive nature of the strategy. we are going to target leaders and finances and ideology and we are going to put together a coalition. if we are going to target leaders, we cannot do it just using drones as we do in
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pakistan against the al qaeda. we have got to bring in a special operations forces who conduct direct assaults against commander control facilities, the leaders themselves and critical infrastructure as we have done every night in iraq and afghanistan. both very successful. that is boots on the ground. but it's another way you mitigate the risk of this ground force i am telling you has so much risk associated with it. another thing the coal higs, attack helicopters offensive forces. iraqis have some but not enough. we have an hc 130 gun ship that can shoot at night close to troops. we have to get these things into the fight again to mitigate the risk of the ground force to help them succeed. these are some of the measures peru debt to -- prudent to take.
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they will be taken but unfortunately they are not in the plan now. >> does isis have a power to bring down our plains, general? >> not on any wholesale scale. they have anti aircraft guns but we have capabilities to deal with that. united states air power doesn't run from enemy air defenses. we know how to deal with enemy air defenses. >> very quickly in the 30 seconds we have, as more people are being beheaded do you believe that the arab nations are going to be joining us so we can really train the boots on the ground that we are not willing to put there? >> this is where presidential leadership kicks in. this is about the president's conviction and sderm nation to succeed and convincing others importance and seriousness of the past.
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we don't need rhetoric and moral support. we need real military capability. if this offensive that is going to determine whether we are successful against isis or not, if it stalls and fails, what is our option? what do we do? what we have to have in our hip pocket is coalition ground troops and u.s. ground troops to back it up? >> general good to have your input. thanks for being with us. >> coming up, the white house thinks they have been clear about whether or not we are at war with isis. really? ambassador john bolton weighs in on that. tonight's insta poll, can we defeat isis without putting troops on the ground? e-mail me. we are going to read your answers on the show. ♪ [music]
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a lot of nations are destroying it. that means the united states has has to take a leadership role. we haven't seen that yet. that's one reason why the coalition quote-unquote and the pal table military commitments are so few. i think most countries aren't sure whether the president's
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heart is really in this or not. >> 40 nations agreed to contribute to the fight against the militants but it remains unclear which country is on the list and which role they will play. yesterday it was nine today it's 40. >> so far i think if there's a lot of rhetoric but not much support. the key point here is if you believe as the president himself has said, isis is a tlit to the y -- threat to the united states we have to be a bigger part of that than just air power and intel gensz. if you say other countries have to provide the ground forces you are basically saying america's own safety depends on the performance of the iraqi army the kurds and others. you can't really believe that. >> you know why you can't believe it look what happens to the iraqis when isis came through they literally dropped
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their pants they took the uniforms off. >> having armed and trained the iraqi army and having seen it fall apart outside of mosul a months ago are we going to go through army training it has been a month and every day that goes by allows isis to get control over what is now a territory the size of great britain getting foreign exchange the oil. this is not a terrorist lurking around in pakistan and afghanistan they are creating a state in front of us. every day that goes by leaves that state even stronger. >> what is amazing so much trouble with this situation aside from that what we have is two americans one britt, you say our president has to show leadership. has he done that in the past, and are our relations with the arab countries that we always
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thought were our allies suffering as a result of what has happened with president obama over the last six years? >> absolutely. they are tearing their hair out. they can't understand what's happening to us. it is bad enough we haven't dealt with iran's nuclear weapons strategy but we have the threat of the monarchies with the arabian peninsula. the battle betweenal guide and isis in recent weeks has been interesting. al qaeda saying that isis focuses too much on over throwing muslims they don't agree with and not enough on the main target of the united states. the arab states are saying where is the united states? they are hedging their beds because they think obama is hedging his. >> with the red line in syria threat and those ready to go with us in that one he backed right off. also with egypt and the reluctance to provide them with the apache helicopters and the tanks they have always joined us
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wi boots on the ground. can we expect them to join us? is turkey said no. >> i think we are in grave shape through out the region. we have a couple of the monarchies that will be with us for their own safety's sake. i think egypt and the military there having watched obama cozy up to the muslim brotherhood over the last three years they don't fundamentally trust the white house at this point. we have seen at nato we have nine nato allies together with us. 28 members where is the rest of them. wither in deep trouble. maybe early days but the signs are not encouraging in terms of building a real coalition. >> they say we don't have boots on the ground though we have more than a thousand military advisors there. if one of those advisors were killed or hurt to the boots on the ground come in after that? >> i think that's possible. i think that's part of the risk
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of the on-again-off-again passive strategy. if it turns oh you tell the iraqi army and others are not successful in rolling isis back we have to come in, i think the risk and cost of american lives is going to be higher having waited weeks or months or maybe even years much better to strike isis now they have not consolidated their control. they are more vulnerable now than they will be in the future. we ought to be moving extraordinarily rapidly with our forces and coalition. we are proceeding at a very relaxed pace. >> some would say rather slow. ambassador tore john bolton thank you for being with us. >> coming up isis looks at targeting teen women and girls. shocking details next.
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built for business. >> this week shannon collie pled guilt which in syria. what's the attraction ? is stooe em msteve emerson is w us. what is the attraction for young american women to get involved in this kind of extremist terrorism? >> actually, it's been going on for years since 9-11. there have been at least a dozen young or middle aged white women converts who try to volunteer for either al qaeda or other radical islamist groups the latest being isis or almutra. the lure is action or men allured them attracted them to the notion that they are going to have a great life ahead of
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them. this one in fic layer gparticul gotten gauged to an isis man on-line. maybe we should start an isis dating service on-line. >> isis.com. steve, what about the fact that last night when we talked about john kerry secretary of state saying we have got nine nations with us, today there are 40 of them. did something change overnight that i missed or is somebody kind of expanding or pumping a bit? >> remind me of the jon lovitz character are "saturday night live" years ago. we change his line every two minutes. he can't name those two countries because they would deny it. in particular none of those countries will admit to the fact that they will support the united states. none of the arab countries will
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say anything about what they will contribute. in terms of practical north none are contributing military support none will say they are providing troops on the ground. none will say they are in the alliance themselves. there is a coal vision of arab states is rude chris. they won't say they are supporting them. >> they agreed to contribute to the fight supporting these nations begins the militants but it remains unclear which country is going to do what. most of these carol layingses muslim or not can join sigisis. the fact that we are not going to openly says that to me maybe they don't trust us or they don't nol low through. what does this say to you?
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>> the tear toir reis a real cal fate and state with borders is to take over the other states saudi arabia and jordan. these states are scared out of their minds their own population mostly sunys are goi-- sunnis ag to be sympathetic to isis and rebel against their elite. at this point when obama says he is going to take a three-year plan, a slow delivery process these countries do not want to align themselves with a plan that's going to see themselves stuck under in which they will be basically over thrown. isis will be destroyed within six months. there's no reason in the world the united states isn't embarking on an aggressive mid yac immediate strategy to destroy isis within three months. i guarantee you they would have
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the confidence to align them . >> if they keep killing americans we should go after them. >> the president is putting his finger in the air depending on which way the air is blowing. >> winston churchill was really demonstration of a man who was a world leader. he didn't care about what popular opinion was in london or britain during the blitz and everything. he said we have to fight against the nazis. we need a leader like that in the united states today. >> blood, tears, towel and sw-- and sweat. >> coming up the beheading of hostage david haines. stay with us.
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>> i am kelly wright. a mass i manhunt turns in pennsylvania looking for the killer of a pennsylvania state trooper. he was shot outside of his barracks friday night. another trooper was shot. he was in stable condition. a nonprofit group is offering a 50,000 dollar reward for any stip -- tips. stotts go to the -- scott go to the polls. the yes vote campaign picking up tens of thousands of supporters in recent days. singer amy mcdonald campaigning for the question sign today and queen elizabeth making her first comments today urging scott to think carefully about their future. i am kelly wright. now back to "justice" with judge jeanine.
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oo yesterday we saw the release of a video beheading. here with the latest from london is fox news amy kellogg. >> judge the tributes are pouring in from david haynes the britt tick aid worker killed by an isis terrorist after being held captive for a year and a half. in syria his death was rosheded in a vo -- recorded in a video. he was kill killed by the same man with the british accent that killed sotloff and foley. he was alive and enthusiastic when doing his humanitarian work. his brother said the joy and anticipation he felt about his trip to syria is the most important in the sad affair. prime minister david cameron reeling out boots on the ground to fight isis but the continuing involvement continuing to arm the kurds he remembered david
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haines today. >> his selfishness his decency today cost him his life. the whole country and family can be proud of what he did and what he stood for in the humanitarian mission. david haines was a british experience. britain allen henning. henning a tax tee driver had got involved got involved in a rewarding chapter in his life. judge? >> thanks, amy. with me former cia middle east chief of compassion gary burton. they put pressure on us. what do they expect us to do? >> isis wants to humiliate and
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pressure use and do these things to increase their own recruiting. if you would look back to 2001 when we were fighting the taliban and afghanistan just as we were going to announce going to war tens of thousands of people poured into afghanistan to fight us. when we look at satellite footage we had 20 mile traffic jams choke points into pakistan and afghanistan they were all trying to get in to fight us. it will bring a large new testament of covera-- large num coverage. they believe they only get one percent of that that will be 10 million more. as we kinds of diter at this point and try to get a coalition together, how much bigger can they get? >> they could double their size in the next couple of months. i think it is important as ambassador bolton said to attack
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them early. if we start attacking them from different sides put significant pressure on them you won't have logistical capability at that point. >> i would do 200 air attacks a day on them. the air stuff we have been doing so far is in pin trick. we need a large campaign against these guys and get a ground force in there as quickly as possible with special operators with some of our partners to put the pressure on these guys quickly. >> we don't know who is going to partner up with us, gary. it's not like we didn't know this was coming. so far two americans one britt one more briton h-- brit on his knees getting ready to be beheaded this is horrible. >> it is awful. i agree. there has to be some units we have had success with in the iraqi army before. we have kurdish groups syrian army we have to have people with each of those groups now to start in the beginning. we can bring others in. remember something we began the
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afghan war in 2001 with six teams of eight men on the ground americans team withed other folks. other troops came in to join us and we fought that way. you don't need a big load to go in there. you need to be with people that you find reliable you don't need to wait a long time, we have to wait too long. that has to by th buy them some time. >> we already know the iraqi forces that we left ran for cover when they saw isil. what makes them think all of a sudden we give them more guns they are going to toughen up and we are going to hit the ground running. >> just because those troops ran we have poor leadership. maliki put them in that position. there are special operations we have worked with in afghanistan
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that are excellent. the commandos. there are units we worked with we have trained that are reliable not the entire army. they can actually execute them operations side by side. >> you have confidence that with general allen a few good turns that we might be able to turn this whole thing around. isil has to believe if they are winning as they continue to head west. >> i have special operations forces in the united states. if they are paired with the right people given the right resources they can do a lot. >> all right. thank you so much for your input. with me now the strategic communications advisor for the syrian coalition. you were nodding your head as gary was speaking. what did you agree with? >> in order to support the sources on the ground that are fighting american leadership. you need special operations
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teams, teams that are on the ground that train the forces with syria. thou no one is calling for boots on the ground. they have checkpoints in the middle of nowhere in the desert. you put in special forces and turkey or iraqi kurdistan to work with the tribes with the syrian curbs and the free syrian army to fight isis you can take away that advantage of isis which is the safe haven in eastern syria. when you say special forces are you talking about boots on the ground? what are the special forces comprised of? >> one is working with special forces in the radio egg gone from the modern arab allies that have been trained by the united states. i served in afghanistan and i saw the united arab emirates and they operated with the jordanian special forces.
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knees are some of the best in the world. you need to fighter wris-- terrorists. >> i was reading isil is now embedded in the syrian civilian population. almost like hamas and the israeli hamas complex. >> here is the ground troops. i can tell you with 100 percent sureness majority of syrian people i have spoken with reject isis. isis controlled a large town in eastern ear yaw. >> of course they reject them. isis is killing them. >> they are crucifying nigerians on a daily basis. if you look at youtube arab language social media they are spray painting graph teet tee on the walls. this is who we support before
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isis killed them. >> we are late in supporting them but what do you think to turn things around? >> two things will turn things around american air strikes in syria. >> that border no longer resi s resists. isis is using the tactics that in pakistan and afghanistan. they don't have to worry about drones they don't have to worry about air strikes. their leadership is sitting comfortably in eastern syria, in places likes abu kamal just like back in 2008 when they were sending more fighters to kill iraqis and foreign soldiers. they have to go in in neighboring countries no the in syria to train and support the army. there is has to be a three prong approach. the how do you vet them how do
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you know who is the moderate who is that. we don't have time to run any kind of check on these people. do we have an idea of who the moderates are? >> we have an idea who they are. the united states has been working with the moderate forces on the ground that are fighting isis in the past year. you do not strike the united states. you do not strike the west. we support the united states can support forces on the ground that don't want to expand outside of syria. >> now the assad regime said look to the united states. you come to our airspace we are going to shoot you down. you have to give the assad regime, they took 190,000 people and they are still standing. every one has been fighting with them, although we have threatened with the red line our
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commander-in-chief never did anything about it. does he have the capacity to shoot down our airplanes? >> he does no the. he is blu -- he does not. he is bluffing. fighters have taken out some of the air defense systems. they have really weighed down on the regime forces and air defense systems. he has thrown that out there. he is worried it is time to hit assad and isis while the heads can count the most. >> thank you so much for being on tonight. thanks. coming up, the boston bomber's terrorist sister now in trouble with the law. this jihadi family has got to be kidding. you won't want to miss my take on what should happen to her. think jihadi mom. that's next. e good news in pers, bad news in email. good news -- fedex has flat rate shipping.
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>> barack oba the tsarnaev siblings are still causing trouble. the sister says i have be someone who can go over there and put a bomb on you. this isn't the first time she is been in trouble. what we have is miss tsarnaev apparently in addition to the pending charge of aggravated
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harassment was charged with misleading boston police membership and bench warrant for her arrest kind of like her mama. she doesn't show up and when she does show up she says i am really poor and i am pregnant and i am in the gym the judge says oh okay why can't we just support this woman why can't we live with mother and sister in a country she is alleging she is in danger from and she has asylum here from. >> it is remarkable there is no consequences for individuals who do these types of acts. there needs to be swift and sure actions from the state department when someone commits a crime. i think when you go on welfare you shouldn't become a permanent
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resident. all six became permanent residents meaning they have a green card and can stay here as long as they want. many were taking welfare benefits they were committing crime why isn't the state department taking it out it was a privilege to be in the country it is not a right. >> how does someone go about having this woman deported. right now we are talking about two criminal charges she is already ignored american law. who would make the motion to have this woman thrown out of the country. >> taste the state department. they are the people who give out the visas. >> i don't mean to interrupt you, but what does it take for them to say you are out of here? >> on september 30th before they go to the judge the state department is woefully poor at doing these types of deportations. what it takes is for someone in
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congress who is an elected official to stand up and tell the state department there needs to be consequences when you do some sort of wrong thing. u are a permanent resident or you are on a visa. >> when i was a da if someone was here, we had to make sure they were convicted of they1 done. >> you are going to have to change the law. >> you could be on welfare and
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you could have a green card to be in the country. not only is there some sort of consequence but if you don't have a sponsor that's going to take care of you ant you can't take care of yourself you should go home. >> thank you for being with us. somi coming up your response to the president's isis strategy. if you didn't see it go to foxnews.com. last chance to vote np tonight's insta poll. you could defeat isis without putting troops on the ground. facebook or tweet me at judge jeanine. ♪ [music] jackie's heart attack didn't come with a warning. today her doctor has her on a bayer aspirin regimen to help reduce the risk of another one.
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president. we got a ton of responses. rose says look at cameron. he already put his country on high alert and takes them serious. he's not off playing golf while the world is in turmoil and returns to his office. larry says we may not be at war but isis is at war with us. becky says i would loov to hear obama's response. melvin says obama says make power not war. he's a great talker or politician as a leader he might as we will be on the golf cou g course. he says the words i want to yell on every street corner but i would be arrested. that doesn't bowed well for me. on tonight's insta poll we could see isis without putting u.s. troops on the ground. we can't defeat them with this president if he puts boots on the ground he will tie one hand behind their back and limit their ammo to three pull lets a
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day. vivian says how about putting the troops at the border for a change. too late for that one. left unchecked they will take over our nation and others as well. ronald negative they have to be flushed out we can't afford to show any mercy in their world to show mercy is a show of weakness. they know and respect only one thing that is force. sending them over there with their hands tied and without backup is only going to get killed. alma says we need to do whatever is necessary to defeat isis we are at war even though the clueless administration can't say the word. angela says no. obama is throwing a bone at the american people to try to save mid term elections. i just hope none of them are dumb enough to believe it. stephanie says nope. i am an army infantry wife and as much as i don't want my husband in harm's way i don't see any other way to completely.
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