hello, everyone, i'm kt's 5 in new york city and this is "the five." >> new concernsa administration's plans to defeat isis as the terror network releases another beheading video over the weekend. the white house and our secretary of state are maintaining the u.s. won't put boots on the ground. >> i can say definitively, that the president has ruled out sending american boots on the ground to be engaged in a combat roll in iraq and in syria. >> we're not looking to put troops on the ground, there are

some who have offered to do so, but we are not looking for that at this moment, anyway. >> a former vice chief warns air strikes won't be enough while a former cia chief predicts that reality will result in special forces on the ground by year's end. >> the only way we can think about destroys isis in this particular strategy is that the forces on the ground will have to do the destroying. >> i actually think we're going to end up with small american special operations forces, active in this broad theater, both iraq and syria. >> i do think we get to about 5,000 by the end of the year. >> what if that's what it takes to get it done? does anybody have an objection with that at this table? >> i do not. >> you do not? >> no, and i also think that -- i have some sympathy, or i think empathy is a better word for what the administration is having to do. they're juggling a lot of complex situations, probably of their own making.

but now that they're in it, when you're a offered help by some of the arab countries, you don't want to advertise that. i think that the administration could focus and rally the nation around 5,000 special forces troops. that is not an invasion of a country, that's not 150,000 troops on the ground with all of the support teams that have to come with that. i think that 5,000 special forces, if that's what it comes down to, that's not what the administration is saying, that's what the former cia chief is saying, i just think that the administration even after this weekend ask looking very wobbly in its description. it's just not clear what they're doing. i understand they're having to walk some really strange lines, but even today you had a state department spokesperson contradicting the secretary of state on whether or not the united states had engaged iran. that's what's giving some people some pause, but overall i think they could get support for that type of mission as they described.

>> okay, go ahead. >> i think there's really troops on the ground, start saying ground troops, because boots on the ground is incredibly irritating. i don't think our country is war weary, we're obama weary. i think we know our troops could eat isis for lunch, they're just worried if obama is going to give them the knives and the forks. i don't think there's any problem that those guys are going to go in, they signed up for it, they know that's what they're going to do. >> and that's what they're trained for. >> we got to talk about the "new york times" article that was over this weekend where obama had offered his advice that he would give to isil, which is please don't behead them, instead pin notes on the hostages' chests, with a stern warning. i don't know if you saw that article over the weekend. so this is a president that thinks isil is responsive to

warm/cool advice. i got news for the president, they don't read dear abby, they behead dear abby. this betrays s fundamental cluelessness. >> what's next, a kind paperless post to isis, please engage in war, not terrorist tacticses? >> i was going to say that i think we're dealing here with a group that i have said from the beginning when they were not, when there's nobody there to take them on, they did pretty well. now there's people taking them on, they have not done so well. they haven't gained an inch of ground since -- you've also got isis, not an army that's had a long history of command and control. so you don't have a well disciplined group of people. they've got a lot of weapons, they're mean, they're nasty,

they're horrible. but the@1tñ question s are they trained effective combat force and that i have doubts when they're faced with a combat force. >> i'm going to use your words and i'm going to ask eric foley. and they said they have not advanced. that sounds actual practice of containment. that is very different from defeating isis. >> okay, true. but what's the rush? we have been there for 13 years, right? let's try this air campaign. look, they beheaded one british aid worker, isis, they said the next one's going to be another british aid worker, and cameron says we're not ready to not even put boots on the ground -- ground personnel, we're not even ready to get involved in the air strikes. this is the thing, we have plenty of time. these are cockroaches and we want to kill them all, they're absolute pieces of garbage, and we will get them. why don't we try the air campaign first? let me just finish, we can

continue to help peshmerga, because they're the kurds. we can continue to help the iraqi boots on the ground, the iraqi troops already. we can do all that, two arab nations said they would be ready to put troops in as well. we're getting a coalition of the willing who may or may not show up or not. but let's try the air strikes. this 160 air strikes in the past 35 or 38 days is a joke. we did 140 sortes the first day of desert storm. >> this is a lot different. >> it's really not. we know where they r we have this outlined area, how many maps have you seen that the syrian border is gone. northern iraq, southern syria, that's where they are. let's month bomb them. >> you don't think if we had the targets to bomb we would bomb them? yes, you're going to send 150, 200, 300, 400 air strikes. but in this case, you've got to

pick out specific places to bomb. and it's not just something you can carpet bomb an entire area. there's a lot of civilians. >> you've touched on a problem that's a problem for us and our allies is the lack of intel. i understand the u.s. tried the rescue mission for the hostages that was not successful and by all accounts the trail has gone cold. so we don't have intel and we also know that the terrorists, isis is listening to anything that our leaders say because in the most recent beheading over the weekend the narration, references something that david cameron of the uk said last week. so we know they're paying attention and they're listening. third, in order to make sure that these air strikes are successful, you have to have people on the ground, whether it's the iraqis or the kurds that are telling the u.s. where

to bomb, or we might have some friendly fire situations that we don't want to v. >> the challenge seems to be to infiltrate and disrupt these groups. but now you're faced with a media who thinks that somehow it's wrong to spy. and so now you're challenging, you're challenged by an enemy and somebody who doesn't like your meths. >> and to interrogate. >> and to interrogate which is wrong. now i'll go back to evening lapped. and this is important for us. the reason why england isn't sending anybody, because it's hard to send people when you're broke. it's a consequence of a country buried in debt. we're turning into fight guys who can't fight, or we can't swing because we're so mired in our own domestic programs and debt that we can't afford to win. >> i'm going to show cameron -- >> i'm sorry. let's just take a look at this. i want to get it in and get everybody's reaction.

the british prime minister david cameron, these are his thoughts on isis. >> we will hunt down those responsible and bring them to justice no matter how long it takes, they are not muslims, they are monsters. we have to confront this menace. step by step we must drive back and ultimately destroy isil. this is not about british come pat troops on the ground, it is about working with others to extinguish this terrorist threat. >> all right so the mighty uk is relying on the united states. >> because they're broke. >> let's give the uk some credit here, they have been with us every step of the way and every war we have been in. and they're facing election, and the election is not going -- >> the craziest radicals are in england, the guy who's doing the beheading. >> i understand that, but for the british public, the idea of them seeing britain spend that

much more money as you point out, when they can't get money for their schools, that's something -- >> they can get money for their schools, they've got so much money for their domestic programs. britain has completely starved it's military in order to pay for a welfare state that they can't afford. >> i'm scratching my head. we're as much of a welfare state as britain is right now. >> not quite yet. >> about eight ye ñ away. >> we're $8 trillion in debt, we're going to be $20 trillion in debt. i would make the case that we're at least as broke as great britain and give obama care a couple more years and we might be even sooner. >> you know what president obama did in the "new york times" article that you referenced earlier? one thing he was able to do this weekend was unite all of us against france. one of the things that's very difficult for president obama and prime minister cameron is that the united states and uk policy is to not pay ransoms for

hosta hostages, and apparently what obama said in his meetings with journalists and other foreign policy ministers says that france says that they're not paying ransoms, but we know that they are. and that's why it's difficult for obama and cameron to toe the line. >> that's why they should have announced this coalition before they said they were going to form a coalition. now it looks likes we can't even form a coalition. that looks bad because its looks like we can't form a team. >> but one of our team members is undercutting us. >> because it's cheaper for them to pay for the hostages than be all in. >> you remember when france refused to allow reagan to overfly in order to bomb libya. the french have a problem, they have too many muslims in paris and they know it. >> right now in france, the latest poll has isil more

popular that were their french politicians. r cameron says they're not muslims, they're monsters. why can't they be both? >> yeah. >> we know the muslims. this is jihad against everyone who doesn't believe in -- >> it would be nice if we could get even more support from the uk, but this is what happens when you cut your military funding.  gets beheaded? then do they sigh we support the united states, not only do we support you, we're in this with you? >> that would help. >> if you keep looking for someone else to do the job, get out. and we got out. >> i think the domestic political situation in britain is not like france in terms of the infiltration and the immigration they left unchecked for a long time. now they have terrorist cells all throughout the country and their intel community is very, very good. their cooperation with their law

enforcement is good. but i think that makes it harder for him. i think i understand why from a political stand point, they're not muslims, they're monsters, because one they're trying to build a coalition of arab states to help them fight isis and also they have a political situation, all those local communities that have very heavy muslim populations that they have to continue to serve and basically to passify. >> which is amazing, the fact that there will be some muslim countries involved in this. i think politically, that's the most dangerous thing you can possibly do. >> they allegedly have two that are willing to actually put this place in arafat. >> to cooperate in a way that they should would be meaningful and significant. just to give the uk credit, their s.a.s. forces have been on the ground with our special operations forces from the beginning, so what they do have, they are giving. next on "the five" there's

another campus effort to silence radical islam. greg's got the details coming right up.

this weekend iowans got a visit from someone they hadn't seen the eight years. the trip fueled more speculation she's going to give it another go in 2016. >> hello, iowa.

i'm back! i've got a few things on my mind these days. bill and i are on constant grand child watch. and then of course, there's that other thing. well, it is true, i am thinking about it. but for today, that is not why i'm here. i'm here for the state. >> senator tom harkin introduced him at his annual steak fry and he credited her with something that could possibly hurt her if she decides to rain for president again. >> hillary was not there when the affordable care act was signed into law. she was of course secretary of state. but i want you all to know, that her fingerprints are all over that lettigislationlegislation. it would not have happened but for her strengthen wuous advoca those years to get a health care bill passed in congress.

>> today on commentary magazine, seth mandel writes a piece about the steak fry. he said it's become this essential yet insufferable event in iowa every year. as a democrat, you've been probably a few of these. what do you think was going on there this weekend? >> first of all, it's one of those places that you really don't want to go to. it's always hot. and for some reason the steak isn't that good, and the conversation isn't that good, but everybody goes to it because that's where they go. >> the steak tastes bad? >> yeah. clearly, this is her step, she owes harkin a lot and harkin vice versa, but i think in this case she is sort of testing the waters and i'm not so sure that she is not weaker in iowa than she thinks she is. maybe against the current feel. but there are a lot of people going to iowa and#b@r taking a around, including i might add, bernie sanders, eric's favorite

candidate. >> i don't know what he's talking about favorite candidate. really testing the waters going to iowa? she's writing a book. the bill clinton picture when she was sitting there, when harkin said hillary clinton's fingerprints are all over it. you can't see him because he's wearing sunglasses, but yes, she's running. >> you hear the disappointment in the crowd's voice, when she said well, i'm not -- >> at what point does the media say we have got to stop pretending, they're waiting for that big ratings that they can finally say she's running. >> that was the closest read i got from her that she might be running. that is the most engaged, like on point about it that i have seen her in terms of everything else, she's sort of tried to avoid it, danced around it, now she seems like okay i'm going to get back in it. i would say upset offensive he said that about me with obama care. >> obama care is a nonexistent

issue in iowa. >> a film clip forever. >> what difference does it make? it makes that difference because you can see it. greg, i was looking at your calendar, you have a trip to iowa planned, any announcement? >> it was interesting to see, because hillary was eating meat and poor bill was stuck to grasp fed wait tress. okay, here's the thing, this is going to be about women. my feeling is, she's going to run and it's going to be about women. but we have had six years of dividing america into these women, black, gays, the next president has to be able to reverse this internal cannib cannibalism and remember that we have to fight the real threat outside. the problem for democrats is if we're at war with them, then we can no longer be at war with ourselves and that's what we slb doing for the last possibly six, eight years. >> i don't care who it is, is it

hillary, somebody in the republican party, but they have to start talking about americans, and not about black americans or gay americans or female americans. >> i think you just put your finger right -- if she does run, or whenever the democrats are, exactly on themessage. 5% of democratic women will vote for hillary clinton for president and that makes a big difference. >> she was asked about her loss there, she said i'm so surprised that iowa has never voted state wide for a woman. just be who are you, i'm the best candidate, it doesn't matter if i'm a man or a woman. i'm here. deal. next on "the five" charles barkley is coming to the defense of adrian peterson charged with recklessly injuring his 4-year-old child. eric has the tape and the new details on the controversy in the fastest 7 coming up.m i

all right, welcome back. time for -- the fastest and rousing 7. first up, more football fallout. just days after the ray rice domestic abuse went viral, star nfl running back adrian peterson was charged with child abuse for switching his 4-year-old. listen to two opinions expressed by two big-time pro athletes, chris carter and nba hall of famer, also my friend charles barkley. >> your friend? you can't beat a kid to make them do what you want. i don't care what it is. take them off the dad gum field. because as a man, that's the only thing we really respect. we don't respect no women. we don't expect no kids. the only thing roger and them do, take them off the field, because they respect that.

>> we spank kids in the south. i think the question of did adrian peterson go overboard. we all grow up in different environment. every parent in my neighborhood would be in jail under those circumstances. >> very quickly, charles barkley, and adrian pierce, this is isn't about black or white or where you grew up, this is about hurting a defenseless 4-year-old child. this isn't like hitting a wife who may stick around or may not stick around who could leave or may not press charges, this is a defenseless child. this kid was 4 years old. he was switched, he was switched with liç'f5" a reed to the poin where he was bleeding. >> it's child abuse, it's offensive, take him off the field, i agree. we should care, i don't care what kind of job he is, what kind of nfl he is. zero tolerance for hitting women and children. >> is the older generation used

to disciplining kids in one way and now it's not acceptable? >> i'm a little conflicted on this, having abusive childhood. i don't -- i can't imagine, i mean, i just my whole life was affected by what i went through. i can't imagine taking a 4-year-old kid and doing that to him. i think it ought to be illegal and how charles barkley can stand up to that, i have no idea. >> i was kind of curious about that as well. >> by the way, the nfl and the vikings allegedly are letting him play, if i'm not mistaken, he's still going to suit up for the game on sunday. adrian peterson. >> it would be -- what is the policy, do they have a policy? do they not need a policy? is this something that law enforcement should take care of in should your parents get involved in it? maybe you don't want it involved in your organization, if it's not a crime, is it your parents skills? i really don't have an answer

for it. i feel terrible for the little boy, i can't imagine what he did to deserve that. >> how about nothing, that's lazy parents, work with your child, do some behavioral management, spend some time and try to redirect their behavior if you don't like it. >> these stories are really great for talk shows. because they create a pyramid of stories. so here's the incident, right? here's is incident and then you get two responses, one that says it's okay, one that says it's not. then you get three more. you get three more on the side. i created a little pyramid. this is what happens, this is why you'll never stop hearing about these stories, it starts and then it keeps going and everybody gets outraged and everybody gets outraged more. it's a media outrage pyramid. this is why you don't hear about isis or our budget or the va scandal or irs because we get stuck on this one little story and we keep going, and keep going, it's low hanging fruit for everybody. it's bad to hit a kid, it's bad

to hilt a woman, but people have different experiences about it. charles barkley's opinion is based on his experience. maybe his experience is wrong, but that's what it is. >> you used a bad phrase, low hanging fruit. >> check out the bangers flying over a couple of informal stadiums by an anti-domestic violence group. they're calling for roger goodell's head and hiss job. check out this photo shopped covergirl ad, that says put your game face on. >> that's really brutal. that's twe ee's actually, that' they were looking for, that kind of reaction that we all just had, that is very effective advertising. >> your thoughts on this ad campaign, flying banners around nfl stadiums, again, pointing the finger at goodell. let me ask you this, the vikings employ peterson, the ravens

employ ray rice. >> the publicity arrange this, i do not think you will see the nfl not taking a position on this that is very specific. if they don't, i think goodell is out. and it's going to be a problem that faces them for a long time. >> you know what i love advocacy and i love freedom of speech. i like this group is taking it to the sky to put their message out there, i think it's the most dialogue and people thinking about and questioning about how they parent, how they run their household, the relationships they have and also putting some light on domestic violence, it's very serious so i like it. >> these stories overshadow the game, which is great for people who don't watch the game so everybody can comment on these issues and it never ends. >> first deep throat, then blue horseshoe and now miss new york. >> your new miss america is --

it's a 3-d. miss new york! >> was she the true winner or is any conspiratorial side showing again. because here's miss florida and if talent mattered, miss massachusetts played an amazing concert piano concert, it was out of control, she arranged it herself, and ms. virginia, she belted out a perfect rendition of an opera song. this is the stage and this is her talent -- ♪ clap along if you know what happiness means to you ♪ ♪ clap los angelalong if you fe what you want to do ♪ >> i thought it was a great p night for miss new york, i waited in the car because i didn't want to steal the spot light from her. but i have to say, can we visit the swimsuit, the whole swimsuit thing, that tradition is a little weird, the woman comes

out and they do ratings. it's very weird to watch that and go, are we still doing that? is that odd? am i crazy? >> that weird playdough cup situation distracted from the song. i thoughts she had a good voice, did she not? >> she should have'p stood up a danced. >> before the swimsuit contest was by far and away the best contest. >> i'm speechless. >> okay. >> that is the scariest thing i have ever seen. you know what it was? ms. congeniality. ms. congeal yality did the licking of the cup situation. >> ahead on "the five." she was nearly killed in sudan for refusing to renounce her christian faith. now mary ibrahim is in the u.s. and gave her first television interview to may began kelly and we have a sneak peek for you next.

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oh, hi, yeah. last we're we brought -- sentenced to death for refuses to renounce her christianity. a few weeks after winning her

appeal she's giving her first account to megan kelly. here's a preview of that interview set to air tonight. >> europe pregnant, you had a little baby boy in that prison dr cell with you, how difficult was it to stand by your faith under those circumstances? >> translator: i had my trust in god, my faith was the only weapon that i had in these confrontations with imams and muslim scholars because that's what they believe. >> why not just say what they wanted to hear to save your life? >> besides obviously she went through a horrible, horrible situation, she's not alone, by the way, a lot of muslim women have been through this. but megan kelly, it's amazing the interstrview she's getting, isn't it? >> normally, we would have a hard time -- a hard push back

from coming on and she's doing a fantastic job. and she's got some amazing bookers and i just feel like they're getting a fair shake. >> i think she's a barbara walters of this generation. >> i think she's czoverrated. i just got to bring this down a little bit because it's getting groce. >> we never hugged like that after an interview. i wish bob would hug me like that. >> is this going to be -- it's not that funny, she was in prison -- >> i'm not laughing at that. >> i'm only kidding. let me go to dana first. >> i have an answer. >> what do you think? >> i always go back to, imagine if this were the office of some fanatical christians, butchering muslims, jews and other christians. the white house would have already nuked wherever they were. but because of this, because of these situations aren't well -- aren't well known, it's because it's bad taste to bring up these stories in mixed company, because you will always be seen

as islamophobic. >> despite what obama said about chrissianity and people being persecuted. but high profile people talking got christian people being executed in muslim lands -- >> that's why we talk about it. it's why we in america, in a free media, we have an opportunity to talk about it. this story was followed extensively, not just on traditional network media or cable news, but on social media as well. the christian community followed it very, very closely. so there is a way for somebody like miriam ibrahim to make a big difference in a way that a woman like her may not have been heard of until her life actually ended. but now she can be heard in real time. >> people should learn about that and be inspired by it.

it was a great thing for christians as well what she did. >> see megan's full interview with miriam ibrahim.

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do me a favorite, head over there and take a look and maybe leave a comment on that one. >> all right, dana. arguably the biggest story this summer has been going on and it got some attention but not enough, and that is ebola, that is the disease in africa spreading rapidly, so rapidly that africon is saying it's a number one priority, mother nature is taking over, this disease is mutating and the world has been begging for united states state. tomorrow president obama will ask for a billion dollars to help combat it. paul allen is a billionaire in seattle. big tech guy, he's offering 20 million dollars into deliver 50 million kids, life saving drugs that they can deliver to u arku. >> a good friend of the five's, mr. greg norman.bj) appeared on the show this past

weekend, was cutting branches off the trees off one of the trees at his home in south florida. you can ski he cut very close to an artery, it turns out that greg's going to be okay, he's going to be back playing golf at some point soon, we hope. thanks for being a good friend of "the five" and thanks for sharing yourself your instra gram and get well real quick. >> we hope he gets better very soon. good news, you never have to misanother minute of this show. because you can now watch fox news live from your smart phone, commuter or tablet. go to fox news or download the fox news app, that report is next. >> it's tuesday september 16th. ap brand new benghazi bombshell. did hillary clinton stab trying to hide documents which could have been damaging to her? the stunning allegations.

>> a desperate search underway right now for a missing college student. the chilling last test she sent right before she vanished. >> brand new abuse allegations against adrien peterson as the nfl clears him to play. "fox & friends first" starts right now. ♪ >> you are watching "fox & friends first". i am ainsley earhardt. >> i am heather childers. let's begin with this. bombs over baghdad. the u.s. launching a new phase of air strikes against isis

terrorists. >> the house debates arming syrian rebels today. >> this measure debated on the house floor would give the white house the okay to arm syrian rebels as long as the white house reports back to capitol hill about how it is going. the money would come from funds set aside already for other operations or from other countries willing to pony up some dough and some on the hill are already saying the help for the rebels needs to be quick and needs to be substantial. >> they have suffered hundreds of casualties at the hands of both. i know that they are not giving up their fight. i know that we can make them strong and resilient. but arming and equipping 5,000 a year in the face of a 30,000 man army>> the president is going to sit down with