was for bad service. the receipt is on ebay and the top bid 100 grand. i know you left me a lot of your tip stories and i don't have time to get to all of them today. not any of them. sorry. we'll get to them tomorrow. here's shep. >> that didn't take long, did it? the chairman of the joint chiefs now talking publicly about the possibility that our u.s. troops, our boots, will actually be on the ground in iraq. possibility. ahead, what he says it would take for him to make that request. this comes as we learn of the first defensive strikes against the islamic state fighters near baghdad. you'll hear from a journalist who was imbedded with the kurdish troops inside iraq,o$ ad talk of a wider war in syria, if the leader, bashar al-assad blocks the pentagon's efforts to

go after the islamic state fiegers. -- fighters. there's a lot of news so let's get to it. today's program is important. i need you for the next 15 minutes. nearly three months after president obama ordered air strikes against the islamic state militants, after he said he would guard against mission creep, no boots on the ground, the nation's top military officer today said we may eventually need boots on the ground. that is the secretary of defense said in the same hearing there is no military solution. the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff made the comments during the first hearing in congress on taking on the islamic state. general martin dempsey told lawmakers if the president's strategy does not go as planned, the pentagon may ask permission from the president to put american zots on the ground. that is despite president obama's repeated promises there will be no boots on the ground

of americans. general dempsey gave lawmakers an example in which he said u.s. soldier would be needed. >> if the iraqi security force were ready to retake mosul, it could be part of that particular mission to provide close combat advising or accompanying for that mission. >> close combat advising. in other words, u.s. troops working side-by-side with iraqi soldiers in a ground fight. then there are the so-called moderate rebels in syria. they aren't just fighting the islamic state. they're also trying to fight bash shall al-assad and topple him. lawmakers add if that complications could draw our troops into a whole new fight. >> we're now recruiting young men to go and fight in syria against isil, about if they're attacked by bash shall assad, we're not going to help them. >> they will defend themselves,

senator. >> will we help them against assad's air -- >> we will help them and support them -- >> how will we -- will repel bashars ath assets attacking them. >> any attack on those that we have trained who are supporting us, we will help them. >> we will help them. what that help would involve is at this moment very much unclear. but at the very least, it could mean defending the rebels against assad's forces. and highlighting this complicated situation in syria, the islamic state today took credit for shooting down a syrian fighter plane. our enemies fighting our enemies, all while it not at all clear who our friends are. as for the moderate rebel group, which really isn't a group, part of it is the free syrian army. the "associated press"aq reportd it has teamed if with an offshoot of al qaeda.

defense secretary chuck hagel told lawmakers the united states will monitor the rebels to make sure that any weapons the united states provides do not fall into the wrong hands. they will be monitored, and vetted. it will be fine. ed behindry at the house. looks like congress is ready to sign off on giving the rebels weapons. >> that's raising eyebrows. you could hear as you lay that out, the skepticism growing today in the senate hearing room about what really is the strategy and what comes next here? after the airstrikes, not just in iraq but in syria, that the president has telegraphed. first of all, the fact that you had general dempsey opening the door for the fir time of the possible of u.s. combat troops going in, despite everything the president said, raise a lot of eyebrows. training and arming these rebels, something the president reject ford three years, you had one of the president's fellow democrats say, how do i go home to west virginia and explain that's to

my constituents when you have bash shall al-assad, the syrian president, attacking the rebels and maybe the arms we give the rebels wind up in the wrong hands. >> he's fighting the same peer asking the people to train to fight, we're going to spend $500 million. it makes no sense and i can't sell it. you can't sell this stuff. no one believes the outcome will be any different. >> nobody believes the outcome will be any different. some strong words there. nonetheless, speaker john boehner said today that it will be a vote as early as tomorrow in the house to give the president this power to train and arm the moderate rebels in syria. senate majority leader harry reid suggesting there will be a bipartisan vote in the senate. this is a rare bit of bipartisanship on the hill, but skepticism whether it we work. >> bipartisanship on arm egg -- arming rebels. the military may ask for u.s. troops to fight the war on the ground. that's brand new today. but for right now, we're

planning to support the iraqi army, which folded in the face of isis and left our weapons for them few short months ago. that iraqi army, on which our leaders tell us will rely to be the fighting force on the ground in the iraq part of this conflict in isis. its it's mostly disbanded and being re-organized now, the iraqi army. on the syrian side we'll rely on the moderate sourceses in syria. who are they? republican senator mickley remind -- mike lee remind us in the hearing today. it's very important. >> if isil -- >> state it that the notion of arming syrian rebels has -- the next few sentences in a quote -- as always been a fantasy this, idea we can provide some light arms or even sophisticated arms to what was essentially an opposition made up of former doctors, farmers, pharmacists and so forth, and that they were going to be able to battle

nothing only a well-armed state but also a well-armed state backed by russia, backed by iran, battle hardened hezbollah, that was never in thef cards, close quote. now, the president hardly a month later is seeking authorization to do basically that. so, mr. secretary, what has changed and why does the president, who apparently didn't think that would work and described that as some sort of fantasy, about a month ago, what had changed to make him think it will work now? >> well, thank you, senator. at the risk of interpreting what the president meant when he said that, i recognize that is always risky, as i've said, but let me address your question this way. what has changed now is the

urgency of what has occurred in the middle east -- >> what has changed now is the urgency of what has occurred in the middle east. of course, senator mike lee, run of utah's question was, what has changed about the fighters on whom we'll rely to be the ground forces in syria as we work to destroy the islamic state. what hawse changed about the fighters. to that question senator lee got no answer from secretary hagel. and the republican senator mike listen. >> i do understand that things -- there are some developments that have occurred since then that have brought this appropriately to our attention to the attention of the world. i would be curious to know strategically how that changes something previously described as a kind of fantasy into something that could be

realistic. but i understand that that's difficult for youmd to answer in this context. i'd love to be able to talk more about that on another occasion. >> difficult to answer in this context, would love to talk about on another occasion. this is the occasion. this is the time that our government set aside to talk about, among other things, the fighters on whom we plan to rely to accomplish our stated goal of destroying isis. today in congress, secretary hagel, general martin december. si and others, before our representatives, your representatives and mine, the facts on the ground are these. nothing has changed. nothing. nothing except for widespread reports that the islamic state and the moderate rebels declared a troops. isis and the rebels fighting assad have agreed to not fight each other anymore so they can fight together, actually both assad-but separately, not together. but here's our plan for this. we're going to give the moderate

ones training and weapons to fight the militant ones to help us destroy the militant isis ones as they both fight assad. the moderates onthe ground, we'll be in the air and we'll fight isis on the ground with the mostly disbanned army in iraq. any chance that won't go well? of course, general dempsey said today. this plan may not work. he said, if this doesn't work, they'll be going back to the drawing board, as he put it in testimony today. board? well, u.s. troops. whom the military admitted today it may need to fight isis to destroy isis with the military. truce as solution to destroy. what's this, general dempsey? >> there is no -- may be a tough pill to swallow but there's no military solution. it has to be part of a broader regional campaign. >> there is no military solution. part of a broader whole of government regional campaign. the government of syria, whiff

its leader, bashar al-assad, or the government of iraq, the new government there, the government which has shown no signs the kind of inclusiveness that our leaders insist is required to make this work. the problem with the old government was primarily nouri al-maliki. he was the problem. he excluded these people so now they fight with isis against his government. nouri al-maliki had to go. in the new iraq government, is nouri al-maliki, vice-president. in the new war, our fighters ore the moderate ones in syria, and the army that folded in walk, unless we need troops, which the military admit out today it may. recapping recent history. in 2003, we went into iraq to liberate. our troops decimated its army in days. now in iraq there's dysfunction, repreparation, and a society at -- repression and a society at war. èz$(r' laden. kill al qaeda, we

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state. of course, president obama insisted that is something he will not do. and defense secretary chuck hagel admits the only thing that changed about the reliable of the moderate syrian rebels on the ground is, quote, urgency of what has happened in the middle east. let's bring in stuart holliday, former u.s. ambassador at the united nations. has anything else changed? can you give us a reason we should rely on the now mostly quote, moderate rebels in syria. >> what changed is the most powerful nation on earth, the united states, didn't have a strategy for dealing with a direct threat -- >> our time is limited. our strategy now is to rely on the, quote, moderate syrian rebels, unquote, and the now mostly disbanded iraqi war. why is that going to work now when more than a month ago the president said that was fantasy. >> it's not going to work by itself. there's going to be a very robust air strike mission. what's going to have to happen is unlike the iraq situation of the last decade, this is really

going to involve the neighbors, jordan, turkey, others -- >> none of whom who have offere. dozens and dozens and dozens of highest played people in the country, now kidnapped by isis, turkey, and qatar, who is helping funnel millions of dollars to three people, are our potential partner, and jordan, where the king is under great fire across the border. >> you're right. we have -- we can but in the case we have to have the strategy, going to involve squeezing them out of iraq, focusing on the airstrikes in syria, and if necessary, deploy something special operations forces to go after these people. >> how we do squeeze them out of iraq without our forces open the ground? >> we have the 1600 troops that are there advising and pushing the iraqi forces -- >> the iraqi forces who disbanded and left weapon behind so isis could kill us. >> exactly. has to involve more investment,

more strategic commitment by the united states. >> would you forgive a viewer of today's conference, if you will, on capitol hill, who looked in that and said, sounds to me like you don't really think this disbanded army in iraq or the moderate rebels in syria are going to be able to beat the ground forces and that's why you said you might ask for troops, but the american people aren't for troops out in but maybe they will be later if these forces would you forgive the viewer thing they're setting us in. >> it's like kicking the can down the threat. if the threat gets wore west'll be friend act with ground forces and right now it doesn't give the american people great confidence that there's long-term game plan that involves not only tutting off the -- -- cutting off what is going on in syria and iraq and the supply to these people. >> thank you very much. nice to see you. >> thank you.

>> of course, the rye minder there is no military solution. even if these forces don't work, and general dempsey or others request ground forces from the united states, there is no military solution. military solution. there is only a p [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking.

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continuing coverage now congressional hearings on how to take on the islamic state terror group. president obama is pushing lawmakers to give weapons and training to those he calls the moderate rebels in syria.

but with mid-term elections weeks away there's a political angle to all of this, as you might imagine and also a tight deadline. lawmakers are heading home this friday and may not return until november. it's astounding, isn't it, when you it together. mike emanuel has the news on capitol hill. what is the latest at the house on syria? >> they're looking at an amendment that would give that narrow authorization, essentially allowing president obama to go forward with arming and training those syrian rebels. house members are debating it to you and we have heard some concerns about exactly who these syrian rebels are, although most today seem to be inclined to give the commander in chief what he wants in terms of the arming and training aspect. earlier house speaker john boehner suggested the president's plan should consider doing much more. >> i just think that if our goal here is to destroy isil, we have to do more than train a few

folks in syria and train a few folks in iraq. and dropping bombs. i just don't know it's enough to achieveñg the objective the president outlined. >> at this point, the president is only asking congress to authorize the money for training and arming those syrian rebels. some lawmakers said it's the best in a list of bad options. >> the best in a list of bad options. where the military is not a solution. are the house and senate on the same page? >> believe it or not they seem to be. senate majority leader harry reid suppressed confidence they would give the president what the needs. >> colleagues in the house are working on a bill to fund the government to give president obama the tools he needs to take decisive action against isis. when that bill passes and comes over here, i'm confident we'll pass on a bipartisan vote.

>> there some here on capitol hill who think president obama should ask congress for a bigger authorization for what is going to go on in iraq and syria, as it relates to isis. at this point hedf has not askd for it, and i he does, won't get taken up until after the mid-term elections. >> so for now we're relying on moderate rebels in syria and mostly disbanded army in iraq and both houses of congress say, mr. president, not enough, but go ahead and do and it we'll see you in november. wonder what will happen in november? anybody? president obama set to speak at the top of the hour. not about this. this is what congress is deciding now. whether we arm the rebels and start full-fledged the new war in iraq and syria against isis, and today the president will speak live, 4:00 5 -- 4:05, eastern daylight time, how the united states is getting

involved in the deadly ebola outbreak that is happening where? west africa. the president is expected to send 3,000 military personnel to the region to give medical and logistical support to the officials there. the group, doctors without borders, warned the united nations the international response to outbreak i falling short and halve officials say the number of cases will double every threedr weeks. if the disease continues to spread it could mew indicate and become a more easily transmitsed disease. it has already killed 2200 people in these countries listed on the wall. that includes at least one american killed. doctors in united states hospitals have beenxl or are currently treat fourth other americans. president obama met with one over the survivors.

congress met with them before the president left for atlanta. dr. brant d.c. to testify on this disease. we're live in washington. when will troops get there, rich? >> good afternoon, shep. we expect troops at least the managing officer to get there by the end of the week. the troops to follow on this. 3,000 troops on the ground. mostly the white house says this is a logistical effort. troops will be dealing directly with patients. as for additional row sources, building a massive staging area to confront this, treatment units, 17 with 100 beds each?x d they will distribute hundreds of thousands of home healthcare kitings as to when this will be up and running officials hope to get this doon as soon as possible but clearly that not going to happen overnight. >> do we have an idea what this is going to cost there rich?

>> that's moving, shep. there are plenty of different numbers out there right now. the administration has a request. they've already spent $100 million. congress has to appropriate additional funding to a certain extent. that's something that a senate committee is looking into right now as they go through these numbers, the pentagon is talking about moving $500 million from an additional fund but it's unclear exactly what the congress would have to do or what kind of say they would have in all this. house speaker john boehner says he expects they're going to revisit this with the administration over the comping month, so that number is just going to keep changing. >> most of them do, thank you, rich tsunami. at the top, u.s. military officer tells congress he may end up asking president obama to send/x american combat boots to fight the islamic state. we're learning more what it's like on the ground in iraq. we talk with a journalist. the fedders stepping up efforts to keep the militants from recruiting here in the u.s.

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warning now from al qaeda's largest and most active affiliates. one of them in a rare joint statement, al qaeda offshoots in north northwest africa and the arabian peninsula are threatening the u.s. allies over the islamic state militants. the terror groups calling for militant factions in iraq and syria to stop going against each other and instead fight against the u.s.-led coalition. analysts say the branches may be trying to amend the relationship with the islamic state, which used to be al qaeda in iraq. jennifer griffin is live at the pentagon. the u.s. military mission in iraq shifted in the last 24 hours. >> that's right. according to the press release, yesterday was the first time

u.s. war planes cared out offensive airstrikes in iraq. it's semantics. they have carried out more than 167,ñ airstrikes that from throw ground look identical to the air strikes we saw yesterday southwest of baghdad. the past air strikes were justified as protecting u.s. personnel and for humanitarian support purposes. now following the president's primetime speech the u.s. air-for-is officially carrying out air support for the arm iraqi army as it goes on the offensive against isis forces. this is the first airstrike carried out so close to capital, baghdad, about it is a point without a point because the u.s. forces attacked isis in recent weeks. >> we have been reporting throughout the hour oregon this new, quote-unquote, iraqi government, and now this new government has new problems. >> well, the new so so-called iraqi unity hit a hiccup with

president obama and vice-president biden met with allen, who was brought out of retirement. today iraq's parliament rejects the new iraqi prime minister's choice for his defense and interior ministers. a setback nor fledgling universitiy government the president's war strategy needed to succeed. the pentagon thinks the iraqcv e easier than syria. general dempsey conceded that two-thirds of the isis fighter command and control remains in syria and would take three to five months to begin training an estimated 500 free syrian army troops in saudi a arabia, and a year before they're ready to fight. there are 31,000 isis fighters today, who knows how many there will be a year from now. >> to recap, perhaps one year, to train 5,000 of these people in syria to fight for us. it will take at least a year in

saudi arabia. but don't forget, we have the kurdish forces, peshmerga, in the north of iraq they've always been very good fiegers and always done their best, and if necessary they will obviously come right down to baghdad and help control the nation and help fight isis down in baghdad if necessary. right? benjamin hall is with us, imbedded with the kurdish fighters. >> the kurds are our allies. one of the very few groups in the region or our side. >> they won't go to baghdad. >> they have no desire for an inclusive iraqi government. they want their kurdish region, eventually, autonomy motion independence, and the fact is if we ask them to push into the south to take on isis, they're going to say, no. they want to keep their traditionally kurdish region and want to maintain those with a defensive role. >> the rest of the iraqi army, we have been reporting it kind

of disbanded. is that fair? >> it has disbanded. i you -- >> not even kind of. it's disbanded. >> they ran from the north, and even if we were to get tome together north, as if we could trust them. >> we just heard from general griffin -- jennifer griffin it will take a year to train anybody in saudi arabia to fight against isis in syria, and the iraqi army does not exist anymore, so they would have to be train. i don't know how long that would take and the kurd are not going to fight on the ground for the roast of iraq -- for the rest of iraq, so who exactly is left to do the fighting on the ground? >> almost no one. saudi arabia has its own plan, so does iran and everyone else. we cannot trust any of the regional powers. their end game is ] different fm ours and always will be. even if they sign documents saying we're supporting you, they will never be entirely on side. who is left to do this? i would argue that special forces needs to go in and take out the leadership of isis.

we can't hope to completely exterminate and obliterate them but we can hope to reduce them. we can hope to stop their funding, get rid of the leadership, and up maltly end up with a balance of power in the region that no one group is too strong. that's our best solution. >> highway was to degrade al qaeda. we cut the head off al qaeda, made them to where they're a splinter group and all over the world and that part of the world, and then up comes isis. right? an offshoot of that. now you're saying that though they have different amibitions than al qaeda did, the goal should be similar, that is, to degrade them so they can't hurt anybody. >> that's it. can't destroy on ideology, and the more we protect to the shia, the iranian can backed government in baghdad, the more sunnis go to their cause. we act as recruit. by u.s. intervention, more people see that as supporting

iranian interests in the region. >> because the iranians and the russians, they support one side of this fight, and now in essence, we are going in to support the other side. the difference is, the russians and the iranians have this army of 31,000, and we have the nonexistent free syrians and nonexistent iraq war and the kurds who won't come down and boots not on the ground. >> we intend to align ourselves with the iranian backed government. many of the militias in and around baghdad have as recently as 0 month ago been fighting for asad inpí damascus, and these troops have moved to baghdad. who can we trust? very few people. we main have 0 to go and some take matters into our own hands. >> the military said today for the first time we ma ask for u.s. boots on the ground, at the same time it said there is no military solution. at the same time, that the house

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community partnerships. >> holder says this will happen, in quote, several cities but didn't say which ones. the threat of home-grown terrorism is a big concern here. investigators say at least one minnesota man has died fighting for the islamic state rebels overseesful just last week this 19-year-old colorado woman pleated guilty to a charge of plotting to provide support for the same group. the threat extends to the rest of the we were -- western world. authorities believe a british born man is the masked militant who appears in a video that shows the beheadings of three hostages. lea gabe -- gabrielle has been looking into this. >> the u.s. government has been reaching out to communities accord ago to eric holder. i spoke with a former fbi agent who is a counterterrorism expert, who says this type of program will really help to try to identify people who are becoming radicalized and who may

be more sunday zepp sun tibble to joining terror gist organizations but his concern is the lone wolf. listen. >> as those people who run very low on the radar, who are sitting in their garage in the basement, at a public library perhaps and visit these sites, who then become self-radicalized or are the ones we're concerned about. >> the rope these individuals are so dangerous is, first, because they're more likely to act here in the us, and second, because of the fact they're not actually interacting with the terrorist organizations it's hard for government terribles to track them and identify them. >> something like this has been going on for a while in minnesota, hasn't it? >> that's right. you mentioned the minnesotaen ma who died while fighting for isis. sprinkle with a -- i spoke with a community leader who says the federal government has been reaching out for a long time, and the problem in minnesota of having young people become radicalized and joining terrorist organizations like isis, al-shabaab, has been going on for more than a decade, but he says the fbi reaching out to the local community leaders actually isn't working.

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polls show scots haven't didn'ted. the white house hopes it stays together and theçt leaders of britain's three major political parties promised the scots gnaw powers. dived cameron visited scotland, warned voters of the decision to break i., it would be final. >> there is no going back from this. no rerun. this is a once and for all decision. if scotland votes yes, the u.k. will split, and we will go our separate ways forever. >> the queen also broke her silence over the weekend, saying the scots should, quote, think carefully about the future before casting their votes. the palace insists she is staying5aey÷ neutral, which is required, but analyst says she just dropped a big hint she is hoping scotland will vote no on independence. after all she has balmoral in scott land. this thing has gotten closer and

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to the tune of billions of dollars. and the meltdown that was the economy back in 2007, 2008. so you're seeing all kinds of interesting things happen. who is their central government? we don't know. what currency would they have? >> they don't know either. >> we don't know. lots of big questions. >> one thing they have said if they break away the queen will still bed the of state of this new scott lean. >> that's interesting. >> i was spreesed, too. she loves that place. >> well, she has balmoral. >> that's afv good -- that's impressive. >> everything today is horrible. thank you, jerri. we'll be right back. ♪ [ woman ] if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me,

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