friends at "the wall street journal." >> seized control and that's when things changed. and this isis propaganda footage, a member says it's unacceptable to display women's clothes that don't adhere to

their strict dress codes. they're telling vendors to close their shops and go pray. the activists that we spoke to say isis imposes curfews and access to water and electricity is -- this is safe to be an isis police station, the activists say this church is turned into an islamic center. they blew this one up because isis are shiia and it was built by sunnis. >> people must be afraid that they're falling in line with them. >> no question. and they're trying to convert, and if they don't convert, then they kill, which is how they interpret, that's their interpretation of the koran. it really does rattle you that they're so violent al qaeda doesn't want to be associated with them? they're that bad. i can't imagine what it's like to be a woman living under those

circumstances. >> let me ask you, i think the cis makes 3,500 isis fighters or so, in the region, there are about 250,000 iraqi fighters, there are about 100,000, 150,000 kurdish fighters. >> the iraqi military didn't get involved until just recently. but that's part of it. but the other thing as i look at this, is they have moved through this territory, they are developing -- people may bow down and they're creating anti-isis people every place they go. those store owners, you think those store owners are going to say, okay, fine, they're not going to stand up and say i'm not going to close my store. you think they're not going to be left behind, what they're leaving behind here are people that just can't stand them? >> they're recruiting them far faster. >> i heard something outrageous

today, isis is taking something powerful in syria and then selling the power back to the syrian government. that's how much control they have in the region. >> it is curious how they could have so much financial power, which is one of the keys for us is to shut that down. and to bob's point, andrea, when you're talking about children, how they're making children watch the beheading videos, they're making them watch them over and over again and having festivals where they show these over and over again to children. there's the longer problem that's almost inconceivable right now, like how bad is it going to be in the future, when you have this many people damaged, lost everything, their dignity has been stripped from them. the only thing they have left is the hope that the western world is actually going to help them? >> are they hoping for that or are they just hoping to stay out

of trouble and stay alive? these guys are committed just -- they're committed to our destruction. that's why we need to be concerned about what our definition of victory is in the white house and will we allow our troops to achieve it, to use obama's terms he understands in golf terms, we have got to give them all the clubs, not just the putter. we're not adequately funded. we have got to stop enough social programs and restart the military industrial complex because what good is head start, if you don't have a head? we need to gear up and destroy. >> that was a good transition to this, here's the dilemma, we have a nobel peace prize winning president who's afraid to have a war declared on his watch and the generals know it. here's the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, martin dempsey, listen to the man -- if he would just let the cat out of the who is's no boots on ground bag. >> my view at this point is this

coalition is the way forward. i believe that will prove true, but if it fails to be true and if there are threats to the united states, then i of course would go back to the president and make a recommendation that may include the u.s. of u.s. military ground forces. >> about that coalition, general? >> do you know any major air ally that embraces isil? >> i know major allies who fund them. >> let me start with you, did you hear what the general just said, if the coalition doesn't hold firm, we will have to do something else, we will have to have another strategy which may include likely boots on the ground. well, not really much of a coalition, they're actually funding them. >> i think it's probably worthwhile for us to give this strategy the airpower, the coalition time to give, and if it doesn't work, maybe he does need to commit u.s. forces to it. at this point in time, why do we have to rush in and worry about

whether it's -- the question then is give it a chance to see that air powell will put down the entire syrian military. i think the idea that we can't do it this way, is not giving it a chance to work. i'm not pushing back from that. dana, bob makes this point, let me see if this is what was said. it really, really puts some heat on isis. we have 300,000 or in the area where if they were just motivated. >> i think general dempsey was being honest, he was doing something that we were criticizing the white house for doing last week. dempsey was saying, he was leaving his options open and staying if it doesn't work, then of course we're going to have to have another strategy, we're not going to give up, we're going to have to do something, i also think they're going to have to have a loose definition to what boots on the ground means, that should come sooner or later, but

bob, i do think it matters what the white house is saying, what it's asking one americans who are there now, who are doing the bombing, it matters to them, if they're going to risk their lives to go for this earth, they should do that and also for our allies, it matter what is you call it because as you know, bob, it matters, what are you saying? what does it mean? you have to have total clarity. >> the best part of that armed services committee meeting, is when senator bill nelson asked bill dempsey if he was aware of covert training. he said we don't really comment in public on covert training. why not just hand the keys over to ice sis, with a senator asking if you're doing any covert training. >> we have a huge dance here, president obama has a billion dollars to train moderate rebels. can you ask what the hell is a

moderate rebel? >> well, our experience with moderate in the past if you look at libya and egypt, it never really emerges as a -- i would not vote for the rebels -- i actually think president obama was right a couple of weeks ago, when he was hesitant not to arm the rebels. we partners with stalin to defeat the nazis, it's probably too late with assad, we have to hold our nose an assad because if as sad falls, i'm inclined to make millions of dollars. >> so, i'll just say the mistake they made when they had this coalition meeting in paris, the syrians did not invite the iranians which was a mistake.

i don't like to pick a side here, but we have to see what's in the best interests of the united states of america, he's fighting isis. >> how serious is the ebola threat? president obama is pledging 3,000 american personnel to the inge flikted region and is -- should you be concerned? we'll discuss that when we come back.

today, president obama

announced america's plans to lead the charge in the fight against ebowl are. >> in west africa, ebola is now an epidemic. the of the likes that we have not seen before. if the outbreak is not stopped now, we could be looking at hundreds of thousands of people infected. so this is an epidemic, that is not just a threat to regional security, it's a potential threat to global security, if these countries break down. the world has a responsibility to act. to step up and to do more, the united states of america intends to do more. >> it's stopping ebola more important than combatting terrorism. the sources briefed on the president's program say countering it say violence extremism as africa becomes number one priority. how can that be, bob? >> i think that even that statement by those people on the hill is so -- >> africon said that.

>> it's just disgraceful to me. just as george bush did what he did with aides in africa, when the clinton administration didn't do enough. it has nothing to do with isis, it has everything to do with -- it's exactly the right thing to do. and let's not have a situation like we had when the clinton administration did not act, the bush administration did finally. we don't have the same thing here. >> eric, i don't think that this should overpower any fight against terrorism. i read through what the president's going to do o i actually agree with bob, i can't really criticize any of this, i wish we had done it a couple of months ago, we were a little slow to react, not surprising, but should we seal these countries off? is it time? >> just as obama announced his plan to send 30,000 people to africa to fight ebola and he plans to send 1,000 hypodermic needles to iraq to fight isis.

you get it? >> no, i didn't get it. >> he's sending 3,000 troops to africa, he's got 1,600 troops fighting isis, sflihe asked for0 million to fight isis. so it's double on both. they're double lay concerned by the number of troops on the ground, troops on the ground, not boots, and the amount of money they're asking for. how can you compare the two of those? >> you're looking at some way to take a shot out of isis. >> here's what i would like him to do, i would like him to step up and say, we're doing everything we can to stamp out isis, it could be a pandemic, and we're going to do everything we can. but let's focus on the most pressing thing to the united states in my opinion, the most dangerous thing to the united states right now is terrorism. >> you can't do two things at one time. >> it is, and it's dismaying that one seems to be more better

funded or better funded than the other. but i want to ask you, could it spread here? there's about 200,000 africans from countries hosting the deadly ebola virus who hold temporary visas to the united states. but the president was asked about it and here is his response. >> i want the american people to know that our experts here at the cdc and across our government say that the chances of an ebola outbreak here in the united states are extremely low. we have been taking the necessary precautions, including working with countries in west africa to increase screening at airports, so that someone with this virus doesn't get on the plane for the united states. >> has he taken adequate precautions? >> i think that the president basically took the summer off. and then a lot of these things happened, isis spread, the global pandemic spread, across the board diplomats and world health organization officials say that the united states is doing way too little, hopefully

it is not too late, the military can do a lot, it does what it does best, nuke people, get people what they need to be. one of the ways we do it is to prevent instant there. >> you look at the u.n. and you think, instead of lashing out at israel all the time, this is what the u.n. should be doing so we can worry about terrorism. >> this is what america does great all the time. wire like mast evers at saving people's lives and no one ever talks about it. we're always evil america. these are things that president obama forgets about when he talks about the nonexceptional nature of america. i do think we can do both. the thing about the spreading thing, you got to understand, in africa, they have a terrible health care delivery system. the customs and the superstat n

superastonisuperstis >> you said it's not going airborne. >> they have one study with a pig. >> you don't worry if somebody's going to sneeze in a movie theater. >> some of the doctors were concerned that the prevention kits actually could exacerbate it. >> there's a superstition that people are actually -- and it's actually breaking out of hospitals. we have got to keep the panic down and contain it and hope our troops -- >> what about the south africans trying to stop people from -- didn't a lot of these people travel through africa and deliver aids around, because they thought there was something going on? >> when we come back, we'll talks about the most expensive war in american history.

50 years ago president linden b. johnson said this. >> it's time that we declare unconditional war on poverty. that's three times more than we have spent on all american wars. the poverty rate is 14.5%. which is higher this afternoon the 13.3 rate in 1967 once the programs were underway and implemented. greg, let me go to you first. you've been talking about this for a while? >> yes, i have, since the early 30s. this war against poverty was

plotted to continue indefinitely. so the census countses a family as four. which approves the spending they get from that fall income, so it proves that their programs will grow while -- it's not a war on poverty, it's actually a zombie that you can't kill, it goes and nothing changes and the poverty rate remains the same as you keep throwing money at it. that tells you something, stop throwing money at it, it's crazy. >> what would you say, eric? >> they track the poverty levels they come up with -- they continue to give them stuff and then, they keep lowering that bar. so as the economy gets bigger and better, the bar goes down, that's why when we started, there was somewhere around 20 million people on means tested porchi i poverty program, and now there's -- as you point out, $22 trillion being spent. you got to raise the bar again. and president obama did

something that bill clinton didn't do. bill clinton put work rules in, you have to at least pretend you're looking for work or at least try, and president obama was the first president to pull that out. so it's literally more financially beneficial for you to stay on welfare programs than to go out and get a job for a good part of the population. >> kbob, you have said before that democrats have put forward polities that haven't necessarily worked out. what is the big democrat idea how to combat this? >> the census bureau did increase the level of the feel people of four that would be counted as poverty. we have come up with programs that have exacerbated poverty in this sense. we gave people housing, we gave children food. the problem is what we did was, as i said before, we bred two generations of dependent people

who have stayed in poverty and have had larger numbers of children. in a perverse way, it kind of worked the opposite of the way it should. clinton had the right idea, you need to start putting restrictions on what you can do and what you can get. >> i think it's sad that no one's really advocating to make life better for the impoveri impoverished. yum what, dana? it's become too profitable and it's become too big of an industry. besides being politically -- think about what a big business it is, for health care provitder who is get all that medicaid number, for the corner deli that's getting all that food stamp money. it's become such a big industry that no one wants to get rid of it. i think it's become too big, the zombie, as greg mentioned to eradicate it. >> coming up, ever wonder how

much you should tip the

americans are generation people. we tip a lot.

a new guide lays out a list of all the people you're supposed to tip and how much. some of them may surprise you. a barista should get a buck for every coffee drink, a housekeeper should get a dollar for every room they clean. don't worry about when you go to pick up takeout in a restaurant, they're evidently not supposed to get anything. derek, who on that list would you say you don't tip? >> i tip them all. especially if you go to any place regularly, you better tip them. you want things to be cool. i love tipping people, it's one of the greatest things when you give someone a nice tip, they appreciate it. >> of course, service, dana. i would tip someone on takeout, especially if you're going to go back to that restaurant. >> i agree. >> well, you said you would do that, right? >> i do do that, if they organize the order, even if i'm

going in to pick it up, i give them a tip. >> dana, you're the second biggest tipper. >> i'm a big tipper. >> you're a big tipper, i know that for a fact. >> but the one thing i wasn't sure about n a hotel room, if you arrive at 10:00 p.m., you leave the next morning, i don't necessarily leave money on the desk for somebody there. but you do? >> i do. >> maybe i should start. >> just leave an 8-ball. >> an actual 8-ball, what are they going to do with it? roll it down the hallway? >> i leave tips to everybody, but not in money, i usually have little daily affirmation cards, cheap your chin up, count to 10 when you're angry. but at a hotel, i tip $500 mainly because of all the blood. >> you must have been in my folder today. >> if i smoke in the room, that's a $250 fine. so i leave a $20 tip for the

maid, saying, by the way, somebody was smoking in the room before i got there. >> do you ever get nailed for the fee? >> oh, yeah, all the time. >> why do aye smoke in the room? >> where else are you going to smoke? >> outside? >> you got a real good movie on. you don't want to leave that. >> a movie? i think you're talking about maybe having company. >> i think tipping a maitre d'. guys step up, they'll appreciate you every single time. >> don't you think you need a benjamin, like don't try and duke them a $10. >> whatever it is. >> make up your own label. >> you flash your table. >> eric -- i did have a table set up, i said eric, i called eric, i said i'm coming, don't worry, i'm going there, he gets the manager out. they go in the back room. the manager says your table is there any time you want it. one more thing is up next.

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time for one more thing and let's go to dana first, shall we? >> one thing that our viewers might not know is that bob beckle and i actually share a taste in books, we have very good taste in books, i will say. you have probably seen father jonathan morris, he's been on air a lot. his new book is called "the serenity prayer" i thought of it has having a personal counseling session with one of the best catholics that i know. he made me even want to be a catholic, even though i grew up lutheran. and bob has one that we like as well. >> "the serenity prayer." it's a prayer they do in aa all

the time. this is called "the means" douglas is the husband of megan kelley. she did not ask us to do this, i read the book, as a matter of fact i have a blurb on the back about presidential politics. it is the best book capturing what it's like on the trail, in the presidential campaign. i urge you to read this it's very, very good. >> i agree. >> andrea? >> bob's book club. so it's the 200th anniversary of the spar spangled banner. in true jimmy kimmel fashion. he sent us out on the street to see if people really know the lyrics? ♪ oh, say can you say ♪ by the dark early light ♪ whose broad stripes and something stars ♪ ♪ oh, say can you see that flag still waves ♪ >> oh, god.

>> okay, staying on the music scene, so rihanna was supposed to open at the "monday night football" game last week. krbls decided to pull that. here's what they were going to play. her new song with jay-z run this town. they pulled it because of the domestic abuse song. rihanna didn't like that very much. she tweeted, cbs you pulled my song last week, now you want to slide it back in this thursday? no, f-you, you are all sad for penalizing me for this. and then cbs said we'll be going in a difference direction for thursday night's football opening. >> i have a recommendation for them. dierks bentley would be great. he's a great performer. >> you know what it's time for? >> greg's sports corner. >> you know what? because i love sports, bob. i can't get enough of it.

there was a game saturday between the arizona chandeliers and the miami foot stools. oh, what does he do? i did a little investigating, let's show it again. what happens is he gets trapped in this little round circle. and there's no oxygen in that little round circle. so he gets dizzy and falls down. i think we should see it one more time. if you ever see a round circle above you, get out of it. i can't breathe. anyway. it was a mazing. >> you should really be on inform informnfl, one of the nfl shows. >> i go to a lot of games. >> foot stools. >> it is wednesday september 17th. a fox news alert. while you were sleeping the minnesota vikings reversing the decision de activating adrian

peert son yet again. biggest sponsors warn they may pull the plug if the controversy continues. >> new recordings of possible terror coated being used -- terror code being used by isis. >> right now i am in culinary school i made peanut butter and jelly. >> terror plots in code over the phone right here in the united states. >> the redskins quarterbacks rg3 told not to wear this t-shirt to a press conference. it reads no jesus no peace. was this fair or foul. "fox & friends first" starts right now.

♪ >> what a great message. what doesn't kill us makes us stronger. we can get through the rest of the week. it is wednesday. good morning. you are watching "fox & friends first". i am heather childers. >> we are going to begin with a fox news alert for you. while you were sleeping the minnesota vikings change their mind about adrian peterson. he was just suspended indefinitely until his child abuse case is resolved. >> anna kooiman what's the latest? >> good morning everyone at home. the minnesota vikings ordering the star running back to stay away from all team activities despite the legal issues. in a new statement they say this. after giving the situation additional thought we have decided this is the appropriate course of action for the organization and