martha: here it is. the united kingdom coat of arms. you can see the unicorn is on the right of that. that is different one. that looks like it has two unicorns. there is lion on one side. up at the top. and unicorn on the side. has to do with scottish love of myth and ledge en. there you have it. bill: will they be together tomorrow? we'll find out. martha: harping now starts right now. jon: we begin with this fox news alert. two top obama administration officials appearing before congress to address a threat from isis as we await a vote from the senate on arming and training moderate syrian rebels. good morning to you, i'm jon scott. this is "happening now." heather: i'm heather nauert in for jenna lee. defense secretary chuck hagel and secretary of state john kerry are testifying at separate hours as the debate on how to

stop islamic terrorists of the president obama has ruled out using combat troops in iraq. senior defense officials say the it won't work unless there are boots on the ground. jon: leland vittert live at the pentagon who has the latest for us. >> reporter: jon, those words from the president of no combat would appear to be very clear but at this point it seeps like clarity is exactly what the administration is trying to avoid. keep in mind we're at five, either former or current defense or military commanders who say that ruling out boots on the ground is a mistake and that includes at least one former secretary of defense and the current chairman of the join chiefs. of course later today secretary hagel is going to head to capitol hill where he will give his testimony and as of late, there has been a lot of tough questioning of administration officials, including secretary of state john kerry over their policies. the latest report indicate that hagel may be on the sidelines of

this debate. at love folks are saying that the white house is trying to run not only the strategy but make military decisions from inside the white house rather than leaving that to the pentagon. and that is not going over very well with a lot of military commanders who had to make those decisions in the past. >> we have the most skillful, the most fiercest, and certainly the most ethical ground forces in the world and i don't think we should reassure the enemy in advance they will never face them. i'm not saying we would have to commit them right now but certainly don't pull it off the table. >> reporter: already there are charges of mission creep in iraq. this all started about six weeks ago with a humanitarian mission and airstrikes to protect u.s. interests. at this point now, it appears as though the u.s. military is acting as close air support for the peshmerga and iraqi forces there inside of iraq as they fight isis.

we're learning that soon u.s. troops could be on the ground, forward-deployed to call in those airstrikes, to lays those targets, which experts say they will certainly be in harm's way and to slice the words really thin, jon. yesterday consider this, the president obama said troops would not be sent on a combat mission. it appears though that does not mean they won't see combat. back to you. jon: leland vittert at the pentagon. thank you. heather: we'll have a lot more throughout the morning. let's talk about some other news right now. there is some extreme weather that has been persisting in the west and it is sparking natural disasters. out of control wildfires are threatening thousands of homes in northern california and then down in arizona soaking rains and major flooding concerns there. we have live fox team coverage with meteorologist maria molina. she is in the fox extreme weather center. we'll get to her in a second. will carr is in tucson, arizona. and we gyp with adam housley in fresh pond, california. that is smack dab between

sacramento and lake tahoe where the fires are still burning behind you. hi, adam. >> reporter: yeah, heather. good news this morning. however it is still a massive fire in here, doubled in size overnight. 71,000-acres burned. when i say good news, what you see the log burning behind me, what you're not see something wind burning fire. when you see low flames, that is good news for firefighters and get in here to get to some of these logs. as you move to the hillside, fire moved through here. but not many trees are burned up more than five or six feet. that is good news. that means the fire is not jumping from treetop to treetop. that is when it becomes very dangerous and almost impossible to stop. airdrops are continuing around here. we had great video before sundown that our crew got of airdrops as helicopters came through to knock down some of the flames. the fire good news is burning more to the east away from homes. still 20,000 homes still to be threatened. mandatory evacuations are down a bit.

highway 50 one of two main thorough fares east/west in northern california, sacramento to lake tahoe, it is still shut down, highway 50. it we're above the ridge on highway 50. it has been shut down due to flames being so close, proximity of them. the homes are in better shape in the sense that this fire is burning more away from them of the airdrops helped overnight and again this morning of the fact that the temperatures are down about 10 degrees. the humidity is up a bit and winds died down a little bit. they expect the wind to come back potentially gusting to 20 miles an hour. that is when it is a problem. back here live, this morning when we got here the fire was up in the trees. look, tom, you can see flames up there. you can see 20 feet up. they're kind of smoldering inside. firefighters will watch these very closely. these potentially could be called a widow maker. if that fire was to continue to burn out that tree, these stumps as you see down below become f wind or ground

movement, near by, firefighters trying to knock out some flames with a hose, a few of them walked by potentially the trees come down and become a serious threat to firefighters. thus the name widow makers. it is very dry. this is stuff that hasn't burn yet. the drought until can fornash made it difficult. 11 major fires burning in california, heather, one positive thing we're about on average for wildfire season as number of acres, number of fires. however that is expected to grow significantly. in fact the number of fires in california have grown by 23% just in the last week. we have a ways to go in fire season. firefighters are worried what may lie ahead with so much tender dry areas across the west. heather. heather: adam housley thanks for bringing us the latest. best to you and all the firefighters out there doing so much good work. thank you. jon: now to arizona where the remnants of hurricane odile are slamming the area with a second

blast of heavy rain in as many weeks. first wave of rain caused deadly flooding and officials there are not taking any chance this is time. our team fox coverage continues now with will carr in tucson. will? >> reporter: good morning, jon. people this morning think that they really dodged a bullet now that this storm is moving east. this comes on the heels of a historic storm that pounded this area last week flooding roads and interstates and killing several people. so people were not taking any chances this week. the city of tucson brought in 60,000 sandbags trying to protect homes and businesses if the floodwaters struck. but the good news is, the storm missed tucson and populated areas. it did pound nogales, about an hour south of us near the border, creating dangerous situations but not nearly the type of damage we saw a couple of days ago when hurricane odile battered baja, california. in particular cabo was hit and it was filled with tourists, many from the united states. it is rare for a tomorrow of this size to come into arizona

but it has been a very active hurricane season in the pacific. a lot of storms have been moving north and residents here tell us they hope that no more actually come this way as they are very happy that this storm missed them this time. jon. jon: will carr in los angeles. thanks. heather: let's get to the forecast andfied out what is ahead for folks in that area. meteorologist maria molina is live for us in the fox extreme weather center. maria, what is the situation in arizona and also in california? >> we're expecting more rain across parts of the southwest but i first want to mention weather across california because conditions today significantly improved. we're looking keeler temperatures. an area of low pressure moved through a drop in the jet stream. that allowed temperatures to cool off. that should help the wildfire danger across parts of california. acrossair sown, new mexico and even texas we picked up significant rainfall. we're talking several inches of rain. one of the hardest hit states

are texas and new mexico. a lot stayed south as you heard from the tucson and city of phoenix that region. the region southeastern parts of arizona picking up couple inches of rainfall. that may not sound like a lot. they don't see much rain. the soil is not typical of what you find in florida so there is a lot of runoff. in the past 24 hours we're getting a lot of heavy rain across southern portions of arizona and into new mexico. el paso, another hard hit area bit heavy rain. we've seen flash flooding occurring out there especially during the overnight hours. another city also hit hard by flash flooding during the overnight hours was the city of austin. there were rescues being conducted there and also flooded roadways that were being reported across that region and take look at forecast coming up into saturday, heather. heavy rain in new mexico and across texas. we continue to see the flash flood watches in effect out here because we're expecting rain to

just continue. back over to you. heather: we have to keep an eye on two other states. maria molina, thank you very much. we'll check in with you later. jon: now this fox news alert from australia. police there say they have stopped a terror plot to kidnap random innocent people off the streets and then behead them on video. hundreds of officers fanned out, conducting raids across sydney and two other cities, after they received intelligence that isis called on its australian supporters to commit those gruesome killings much. david piper is on the phone with us from bangkok. david, what a story. fill us in. >> reporter: jon, yes. australia launched its biggest ever counterterrorism operation over fears islamic terrorists were planning random killings there. officials say 800 heavily aarped police officers took part in raids of homes and businesses in sydney and brisbane. 15 people have been arrested so far and one has been formally charged. a sydney man chases charges of

conspiracy to prepare for a terrorist attack on australian soil. prosecutors say he planned to execute someone. the raids were launched as prime minister tony abbott after a senior islamic state militant from australia ordered what he described as demonstration killings. reports in australia earlier allege there was a plan to abduct somebody randomly off the streets of sydney, drape them in islamic state flag and behead them on camera. prime minister abbott confirmed in the news conference, that was intelligence they had received. last week abbott raised domestic threat level from medium to high, indicating a terrorist attack was likely but not imminent. it was raised over fears about radicalized australians returning from fighting with militants in syria and iraq. at least 60 australians are believed to be fighting with jihadist groups in syria and iraq. 15 thought to have died there, inconclude two who are suicide bombers. australian police believe 100 people in their country are

supporting jihadist groups. this week australia now has plans to send 600 troops and aircraft to join the fight against islamic state militants in iraq. back to you, jon. jon: david piper, joining us by phone again. what an incredible story. david, thank you. >> that is not something that is necessarily new to us, australians. many so many were affected by bali bombings i believe in 2005. so terror certainly not new to that country. jon: all over the world right now. heather: talk about things taking place back here at home. a man from new york state due in court at this hour on charges that he tried to help isis. the federal government says, mufid elfgeeh of rochester, new york ride to recruit people to join isis and attack americans. he is originally from yemen but naturalized u.s. citizen. court documents indicate he bought guns earlier this year from an undercover informant and planning to target soldiers returning to iraq, ourselves members at risk there. jon: new polls out on president

obama's performance and numbers are not pretty when it comes to foreign policy and the war on terror. we'll take a closer look. and the president of ukraine gets a rousing welcome in washington. what he said to try to convince congress that the war in ukraine is america's fight as well. [applause] whenwork with equity experts who work with regional experts that's when expertise happens. mfs. because there is no expertise without collaboration. co: until you're sure you do.you need a hotel room bartender: thanks, captain obvious. co: which is why i put the hotels.com mobile app on my mobile phone. hotels.com i don't need it right now.

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world. for the free world. heather: leader poroshenko is scheduled to go to the white house to meet with president obama and vice president joe biden. looks like he is getting a little bit what is is looking for. the ap announcing that president obama will announce $46 million worth of aid going to ukrainian military, that will include eequipment to detect incoming artillery. we'll keep you posted on that as we get more. jon: president obama getting lower scores for his handling of foreign policy these days. the latest "new york times," "cbs news poll," find only 34% of americans approve. 58% disapprove. that tracks almost identally with a "fox news poll" taken before the president's big speech on isis which 34% approved, 59% disapproved. let's talk about with jonah goldberg, editor-at-large for nationalreview.online and a fox news contributor. also with us, nina easton,

columnist and washington editor at "fortune" magazine and a fox news contributor as well. jonah, as well, i should say. jonah, do these numbers surprise you? >> they surprise me only a tiny bit insofar normally a president should expect a little bit of a rally around the president and rally around the commander-in-chief effect when they announce they are going to go to war. the problem is that president obama only announced that we're going to go to major overseas combat operations or whatever they're calling it this week. the muddled nature of the message doesn't sound like his heart isn't in it and i don't think it is and he hasn't gotten the rally i might have thought he might have gotten otherwise. jon: the interesting thing, nina, fox news had poll numbers very similar taken just before he gave his big speech on isis. he didn't move the needle at all on public opinion. >> he didn't, jon. fear, you should never

underestimate fear as a motivator in american politics. george w. bush's re-election had a lot to do with the fear of another terrorist attack. what we have here now is a public that is deeply fearful and beheadings drove it home, they're deeply fearful about terrorism, for good reason. and i think you're going to see even more fear after these reports out of australia, how easy it is to conduct terror here. you don't have to even get through airport security. you can just kidnap somebody on the street and behead them to terrorize a whole nation. so i think people are scared and you know, as jonah mentioned, the ambivalence of this president has not installed confidence as a leader, as somebody who is going to contain and protect the american public. contain this threat and protect the american public. jon: here is part of what "the new york times" wrote in writing about these overall polls. the article says the poll numbers present a steep climb for the president as he seeks to rally public support for effort against the islamic state, just

as democrats are seeking way to motivate their core supporters who include antiwar voters. mr. obama's job approval ratings are strikingly similar to those of george w. bush at same point in his second term in office in 2006 when americans war fatigue helped democrats sweep both houses of congress. the point being, jonah, that this does not bode well for those democrats who are running in very tight elections. the president's handling of all of these issues, not very popular right now. >> no. i think that's right and i think it is not popular simply not just because of what nina refers to as evident ambivalence of his current strategy and the sort of mixed messages we're getting. i think a lot of people are also realizing that the five years of the obama administration, they have basically been sweeping problems under the rug. their strategy has been basically a political one, to keep foreign policy out of the news.

well if you sweep stuff under the rug long enough you will see a bump. what we're see something a bump. vladmir putin's ambitions didn't come to him overnight in a dream. we didn't see, isis didn't develop since june. these are long simmering problems obama ignored and i think people realize that now and that is one of the reasons it would be very difficult to climb out with new clever wording or some sort of tell againic pinprick strikes in syria. they just don't trust him. jon: stick with us if you would, we just got word defense secretary chuck hagel just began his testimony on capitol hill. chairman buck mckeon the chairman of the house committee on the house side. we'll listen to what he has to say. we'll have questions for both of you on the other side of the break. back with more in a moment. >> -- there was widespread agreement isil is a threat our allies and to the united states.

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>> if fox news alert, a house armed servicemen he, they saw the chairman, holding a hearing on the threat of isis, a threat made all the more real by the story we brought you earlier of the arrests overnight in australia. dozens of people arrested as part of a isis plot to kidnap an ordinary australian off the street and b behead them. that is the kind of thing, as is concerned about. they're talking with chuck hagel. if there is news coming out of them, we will bring it to you. let's go back to our conversation. i want to take a look at some of those "new york times,"

"cbs news" balls when it comes to the handling of president obama at nearly 50% disapprov disapprove. really whatever he is trying to do to sell the country on the approach to isis is not working for him. >> the irony of this, jon, he was trying to follow the polls in the past not to declared them as a clear and present danger. this bind americans ambivalence of going into another war and not even ambivalence but resistance of going into another war. he has been following those polls but it has not helped him in the polls. the other thing among the american public is there is more support for america showing leadership, substantially more support for america showing leadership in the world than there was a few months ago.

if you're following those polls again, should show a stronger sense of leadership going after isis. jon: i am reminded the state of the union speech, he was going to do all kinds of things including immigration. he was going to bypass commerce and get something done on immigration before the end of summer, now we know that has been put on the back burner when it comes to the president's of immigration only 30% of the nation in these latest polls approve of the job he is doing. 60% disapprove. and the overall right track, wrong track numbers which is a pretty good gauge of how people are feeling about things in this country, only 27% of americans think we are headed in the right direction, two-thirds think we are headed in the wrong direction. can he turn that around? >> i really doubt it. the right track-wrong track thing is really not all that

amenable to presidential to drink, that is how people living their actual lives. how their communities are going. it is a long for that to go wrong. there are some events i could change everything. those are events outside of the president's control in large part. what we are seeing is a guy that is clearly over his head having events dictate where and what he does, and yet constantly thinks if he just uses the right word and manipulates the language in just the right way, everything will be okay. lot of people are seeing through that act. jon: commie times have we heard him say the tide of war is receding? thank you. before we go, her magazine

"fortune" has a special issue out today, fortunes most powerful women of 2014. check it out, there is a particularly interesting character you are going to want to look for in that list. martha: a lady many of us know here be had you want to check that out. a vote that could change the way things are written. 300 years, will scotland break away from the uk? plus, new concerns as police search for missing university of virginia student. the surveillance video that shows she was followed and what that means for the investigation. we will go in depth next.

martha: a fox news alerts to bring you right now. scotland's future is hanging in the balance as voters decide whether or not remain a part of the united kingdom or split and become an independent state. this potentially unraveling the union that has been in place for 300 years. amy kellogg is live for us in scotland with more. why should americans be concerned about this? >> high, heather. the uk is the number two country, a very important part of the alliance, a very tricky time in history obviously with so many threats around the world, so there will be a lot of changes in scotland, not the least of which will be moving for the nuclear weapons we don't

know where because scotland will pick them off. in the meantime here i am at a polling station, not a lot going on. they are expecting overall that this will be the biggest electoral moment in history and heather, you did point out why the stakes are so very high and why this is a historic moment. i spoke to people of all sorts of opinion skid one man didn't care about the money issue involved, he would be happy to go barefoot the rest of his life, he just wanted his country back. other citizens we don't want to be part of the major world military and political power. a lot of people are afraid britain will privatize health care, they are worried about that. others think there will be less income disparities is scotland runs its own affairs. a lot of excited young people said regardless of the outcome of this referendum, it is a good

time for scotland. >> i'm excited that for the first time in my life this is a scotland regardless whether they had an interest in politics before are engaged, they care about it and i have found it really difficult to make young people specifically care about politics. but right now everybody is talking about it and that can never be a bad thing. >> some people have said they don't want to be dependent on bones at westminster tosses to them. but they receive more per capita than others in britain do. what will have been. >> my major concerns, all of our money go to uk research funded by the uk taxpayer skid scotland does more money back from that then they put into it. they have not answered this question of how we are going to make up that difference if we become independent. >> heather, it is not just the

united states that could be a little nervous about the outcome of this referendum. we have seen throughout the day all sorts of representatives from different movements throughout europe, and we have seen people in the catalan region in spain agitating for their own referendum of the future. we could be seeing great changes across the world in the near future. in the meantime we are waiting see what scotland does. heather: so interesting, so many angles that story in quitting how it could affect us ultimately. amy kellogg in scotland today, thank you be at jon: now a fox news alert. defense secretary chuck hagel this content to testify before the house armed services committee on the strategy to battle isis, at the same time secretary of state john kerry in front of the house foreign affairs committee also talking about isis coming amid debate in

the obama administration on the need to call in ground troops to stop the advances of that terror group. at least five of the military heavyweights have now said we cannot rule out the use of ground forces against isis. talking about all of this with the executive director of the foundation for defense of democracy. clearly you have two of the administrations heavyweight, secretary of defense trying to convince maybe a skeptical congress the administration has a viable plan here. >> that's right, jon scott. especially when you are the president of the united states saying he will not send combat troops back in iraq in the joint of staff saying he might have to be at a lot of mixed messaging a lot of concern this president doesn't have a real plan for the defeat of the islamic state. jon: part of the plan apparently might involve iran?

>> that is the real concern. the problem is the islamic state of iraq and syria and islamic republic of iran are two sides of the same jihadist claim. iran has done more than any other active fanning the flames of warfare. jon: they helped create islamic state. >> by backing the shiite dominance, and by backing assad in syria. it led to the oppression of sunnis and the arrival of a brutal islamic state. jon: now the administration is thinking about saying hey, let's get together and help defeat this group? >> in new york this week starting negotiations with the iran he steered their only going to provide a consistent with respect the islamic state and their assistants in exchange for nuclear concession. they are playing out on both sides and ultimately the concern you're going to have in iran

with nuclear weapon capacity in the middle east dominated by extremists. jon: why even deal with them on an issue like this, do we need them that badly? >> we don't need them, but he may need them if we are not willing to put boots on the ground or are not willing to use the u.s. air force to go after isis, wherever they are. the supreme leader is counting on our unwillingness to follow through on the mission and if we don't follow through, he knows we will have to depend on iran and will translate that into negotiating at the table in new york this week. jon: so if you defeat assad, essentially you have defeated a proxy of the iranians, right? >> and you have restored american credibility. having all options on the table with respect iran, we have no course of options anymore. i've taken off the economic

leverage and now we are engaging in diplomacy and they are negotiating every step of the way. jon: elvis he wants something for their nuclear program if in fact they want to give us any cooperations. mark, thank you. >> thank you, jon. jon: heather. heather: and he tells and missing college student. we're now getting new details shortly before she disappeared over the weekend. we will bring you that. and secretary of state john kerry expected to face pretty tough questions as testified before the house foreign affairs committee today. this on the administration's strategy to stop isis.

jon: we are about 16 minutes away from "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. harris and kimberly, what do you have? >> a isis plot to kill her and a member of the public is disrupted. as the growing public's growing frustrated with obama.

>> yet another player in the nfl has been arrested for assaulting his wife and child. so how do we change the culture within that league? >> good question. and a mom sends her child out to play. child protective service shows up. we will tell you what happened. >> and ill hammer is in the house on "outnumbered" at the top of the hour. now back to you. jon: thank you. heather: new information coming in on the search for missing university of virginia student hannah graham last seen saturday morning after she left a house party were police say it appeared she was drinking. she texted friends she was lost in shortly after that she was captured on surveillance cameras by at least three of them including one clip at a gas station and this one outside of a restaurant bar. police say the other video shows someone was following her, but also add it is unfair to

conclude at this point that she was being pursued by that person. she's telling hannah's family. committed to finding her. >> i assured them and i'm assuring assuring you today this departments focus is to find their daughter. first and foremost to find their daughter by the grace of god return them safely to her care and the care of the university and all the friends she has there. heather: former uc homicide detective and fox news contributor. we didn't see the video clip just yet but another shows her walking on a pedestrian walks. a man is following her and says she seemed distressed at the time. he tells police she seemed distressed but claimed another person started following her. what are we to make of all of this? >> it is good this person came forward and has spoken to the police. what i can tell you from my sources but i just got off the

phone with, the police department as well as the state police are aggressively pursuing all leads including the fact this guy says there was another individual scene with hannah sometime after he had talked with hannah and this other individual actually put his arms around hannah's neck and was maybe walking with her. it appeared hannah may have known him. law enforcement doesn't know at this point, heather, if any of this is true, and that is why they are aggressively looking for this other individual. one thing significant about this video you have been showing, if you noticed there were quite a few people on the mall last saturday night when this video was taken so police believe there are other people out there who may have critical information that can assist them in finding the whereabouts of hannah. heather: i am surprised by how much video she is captured on. really difficult to get a close look at the people you can see in the background, are you confident police will be able to figure that out? >> i think they will.

the mall that we are looking at the video, that is actually a pretty decent area, and nice neighborhood. there could be other video they could possibly use. in addition to that, they're trying to look at this case as well as a couple other cases of missing persons specifically morgan harrington that went missing back in 2009. heather: there are three other young people who have gone missing in that area in the past five years. we are not hearing a whole lot about that from police there, why? >> the police have not yet definitively linked any of these cases together, but i can tell you from the morgan harrington case being down there when that happened, that police are specifically looking at whatever possibilities exist between the two cases whether or not there is any evidence. the other thing that is really significant is when you look at the victims here, they're very similar in terms of the way they

look, their ages and things like that, so police are looking at that but they haven't yet definitively said whether or not any of these cases are related. heather: the young lady you had mentioned, her body was discovered three months after she disappeared but there are two other young people, three actually, including hannah, who are missing there. the community is a town of 44,000 people, they must be pretty frightened. >> they are. this is a college town, a very close-knit community, a very nice community. i am down there quite a bit shopping, so it is kind of unusual people could be missing in an area like that. we do know things happen but the citizens down there have been very cooperative with law enforcement and they will continue to be until this case is solved. heather: let's hope they find the people responsible for this. former d.c. homicide detective, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, heather. jon: shocking new study on the artificial 0-calorie sweeteners

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study in the journal writing "the scope of our discovery is cause for a reassessment and the massive and unsupervised use of artificial sweeteners." we're joined now. pretty clear words from the author of that study. why is it time for a reassessment? >> it is about time. these products are very dangerous and they are in everything we eat so even if you don't drink diet soda, heather, even if you don't use these things in your coffee in the morning, we're talking about nutrasweet, equal, sweet and low, all these things. all these products are found in the foods we eat. for example, breakfast cereals, canned and boxed products, chewing gum, spaghetti sauce, canned vegetables. so all of us are eating this stuff whether we realize it or not. heather: why isn't this necessarily safe? >> these are chemicals, they're

not really good for the body. they get absorbed and go into our got. we have trillions of bacteria in our gut and have a lot of capabilities and a very smart but these bacteria basically breakdown these chemicals and it changes the nature of these bacteria us and what you have are these bacteria not functioning properly and colonies very negative type of bacteria that do bad things to the body. heather: you say it slows people's metabolism, let's take a look at these on the screen right now. it can spike your insulin level and that is a huge issue for diabetics. what to diabetics need to know about this research? >> they had to stay away from the processed foods. >> to have these artificial

sweeteners in them. either a lot of fruits and vegetables, nowhere stuff comes from. if you have something from a can, read the label. heather: diabetics have such a great risk associated with it as opposed to people trying to cut a few calories, or the doctors properly informing them of the risk? >> i think they need to end this study will wake a lot of people up but realize our gut is the most important thing. so you can start whether you are diabetic or just concerned about the health of your family, start taking a really strong probiotic. heather: we see those on the tv all the time and i didn't know what they were for. but this is what you are talking about. >> start reading the labels and avoid these products and be very wary of something says low sugar

or diabetics. heather: thank you so much. jon. jon: here's a look ahead for what we are working on for the second hour of "happening now." the vaccination rates hitting record low levels here in the u.s. in the richest communities. and the leader of ukraine pays a visit to the oval office as he tries to convince the u.s.' this war is also america knows and the white house tr trying to clear the air and clean up the messaging on the troops against the war on terror. they are testifying about the isis strategy. chris wallace weighs in on all of this. create things that help. design safer cars. faster computers. smarter grids and smarter phones. think up new ways to produce energy.

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